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{{quote|''"Here's a tip for you ladies: Men '''always''' want sex... It doesn't matter if he's a handsome multi-millionaire and you're a mail-order bride with a hump - he's waiting for you to say go."''|'''[[Seanbaby]]'''}}
 
The idea that men are always eager to have sex.
 
To take one common example in fiction, on the rare occasion that [[A Man Is Not a Virgin|a man is a virgin]], he will always want to initiate sexual activity with his significant other. He's never nervous about how the first time will go, just excited about the fact that he'll actually have sex. And he'll never, ever, be as happy about the state of his (nonexistent) sex life as his girlfriend is. Remember, women [[All Women Are Prudes|never enjoy sex]], and want to avoid it at all costs, but men are [[All Men Are Perverts|completely the opposite]].
 
This is a form of [[Double Standard]], distantly related to [[All Men Are Perverts]] and [[All Women Are Prudes]]. It has about as much relationship to ''reality'' as most [[Double Standard|double standards]] do. Contrary to popular belief, men can get as nervous about sex as women do, but you can't expect fiction to live up to [[Reality Is Unrealistic|reality]]. It also implies that it is completely unnatural for women to want or, God forbid, even enjoy sex.
 
There are certain situations in which this trope will always appear:
* A [[Very Special Episode]] about a couple's first time. The dialogue between them will always be some variation of the same generic lines:
{{quote|'''Bob:''' Are you sure about this...I mean, are you sure you're ready?
'''Alice:''' ...I'm sure... }}
* An episode about how a girl's virginity is precious in some way, and she has every opportunity to turn down sex from her boyfriend. Spoiler alert: The girl won't listen, and she'll either feel like a slut after sex, or she'll feel violated, and she'll swear to her friends that she'll never have sex again.
 
Sometimes sex is not an option, so in a show aimed at a younger audience, kissing will be used instead.
 
If a male character is shown not being interested in sex with a pretty woman, he will often be gay or [[Mistaken for Gay]] - and that part often is [[Truth in Television]].
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{{noreallife}} You may, however, discuss the Real Life ramifications of this trope in an Analysis subpage.
 
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== [[Anime]] and [[Manga]] ==
* In ''[[Gantz]]'', Kei Kurono starts out as a virgin who is all too eager to have sex with anything that moves. Kei Kishimoto moves in with him after their first mission "as his pet", because she has nowhere else to go. After continuously dropping hints and finally becoming explicit about his sexual desires:
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* Played completely straight in ''[[Futari Ecchi]].''
* Subverted in ''[[Panty & Stocking with Garterbelt|Panty and Stocking With Garterbelt]]'': [[Shrinking Violet|Brief]] has a crush on [[Loveable Sex Maniac|Panty]], but when she offhandedly suggests they have sex to celebrate a victory in battle, [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYSv7o2P-uo&feature=related he sputters that she's going way too fast for him and he'd rather start out with a kiss on the cheek, ending in Panty telling him that he's blown his chance leaving Brief alone. (9:13 for the link)]
* Guts from ''[[Berserk]]'' may not be a [[Celibate Hero|sexually-driven man]], but he did admit that he was looking forward to {{spoiler|having sex with his now-lover Casca a ''thousand more times'' after both of them lost their virginity to each other.}} [[It Got Worse|Too bad that things just didn't turn out]] [[Heartbroken Badass|the way they should have in the end.]]
* Ise from ''[[High School DxD|Highschool Dx D]]'' is always eager to make out with any beautiful women. Just that his harem seems to stop him from doing it.
 
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== [[Fan Fiction]] ==
* [[Played With]] in the ''[[Glee]]'' fanfic ''[[Hunting the Unicorn]]''. {{spoiler|Blaine}} lost his virginity at sixteen, but being [[Wide-Eyed Idealist|very trusting]] and implied to think [[Sex Equals Love]], he ended up strung along by a guy who clearly didn't feel the same way. When it turns out that {{spoiler|Blaine}} still had the guy's number ''[[Love Martyr|after they'd been broken up for WEEKS]]'', his big brother went insane and threatened to ''[[Beware the Nice Ones|burn the guy alive in his own house]]''. He's... [[Paralyzing Fear of Sexuality|not so eager anymore]].
** [[It Got Worse|Even worse]]--not—not only did he ''think'' [[Sex Equals Love]], he tried to ''invoke'' it.
 
 
== [[Film]] ==
* In ''[[American Pie]]'', all of the guys are like this. One of the relationships in particular has the classic elements of this trope; the guy very badly wants to have sex with his girlfriend, but she's not ready and wants it to be "special", though she's OK with other forms of sexual activity like oral sex.
* In the [[Lifetime Movie of the Week]] ''Cyber Seduction: His Secret Life'', the male lead is always pressuring his girlfriend to have sex with him because he thinks he is ready.
* One of the skits in ''Extreme Movie'' revolves around this.
* Inverted in ''[[Miss March]]''. The main character, Eugene, wants to wait to have sex. his girlfriend, on the other hand, isn't so sure about waiting.
* Subverted in ''[[Pretty in Pink]]'', when Andie accuses Blane of this trope, he points out that he hasn't even tried to kiss her yet.
* At least one of the main boys in ''[[Weird Science (film)|Weird Science]]'' is like this.
* The boyfriend {{spoiler|who also happens to be the killer}} in ''[[Scream (film)|Scream]]'' is like this.
* This trope is mercilessly parodied in ''[[Student Bodies]]'':
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* The main character in ''[[Sex Drive]]'' is like this, to the point that when he finally {{spoiler|loses his virginity to his best friend/girlfriend}} he asks the aforementioned question {{spoiler|the second time he has sex with her.}}
* The 1985 movie ''[[Fright Night]]'' actually opens with a scene like this.
* Parodied, subverted ''and'' inverted in ''[[Another Gay Movie]]'', the guys are gay, but they're all eager to have sex, while still being nervous about it. Plus, they all proclaim themselves to be the dominant "tops" of their relationship, including the submissive "bottom". The one who is most eager about having sex is actually {{spoiler|a lesbian who "converts" several of her straight female classmates}}.
* Inverted in ''[[The 40-Year-Old Virgin]]''. Nearly all of the potential sexual partners Andy passes up (including his girlfriend) are more eager than he is.
* Averted in ''[[The Graduate]]''. Ben is quite shy and scandalized by the idea, and has to be talked into it. Of course, the woman in question was the wife of his father's business partner...
* Averted in the 1987 ''[[Dragnet]]'' movie. The incredibly straight-laced Friday turns down a pretty woman, leading to this exchange
{{quote|'''Pep Streebeck''': Are you crazy? Silvia Wiss wanted you!
'''Friday''': Now let me tell you something, Streebeck. There are two things that clearly differentiate the human species from animals. One, we use cutlery. Two, we're capable of controlling our sexual urges. Now, you might be an exception, but don't drag me down into your private Hell.
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* Max in ''[[Hocus Pocus]]'' is like this, though it is a less explicit example. His little sister catches him feeling up his ''pillow'' at one point. He also hates it when people mention that a virgin had to light the black flame candle:
{{quote|'''Max''': I'll get it tattooed on my forehead, ok?! }}
* The brother in the 80's film ''Just One of the Guys'' is like this:
{{quote|'''Buddy''': Don't get me wrong. It's not like I've never had sex before; I've had lots of sex. It's just that now I'd like to try it with a partner.}}
 
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== [[Literature]] ==
* ''[[Twilight (novel)|Twilight]]'' inverts this - Edward has myriad reasons why he doesn't want to sleep with Bella, and Bella is [[Hormone-Addled Teenager|not about to listen]].
* In the Focus On The Family teen novel "Just Like Ice Cream," the protagonist is convinced to have sex with her far more experienced summer love when he tells her sex is good... just like ice cream.
 
== [[Live Action TV]] ==
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* In an episode of ''[[The Wire]]'', when Dukie comes home and sees/overhears Michael with a girl, the snippet of dialogue we hear is Michael asking the girl who's with him, "Are you sure you want to do this? I don't want to hurt you." This also foreshadows a [[Backstory]] with Michael.
* In an episode of ''[[Curb Your Enthusiasm]]'', Larry responds to his wife's concern that he never initiates sex by pointing out that he's always ready, and instructs her to tap him on the shoulder when she's ready. Of course, this backfires when she gives him the tap just after he's finished masturbating ("tapped out").
* In ''[[Degrassi the Next Generation]]'', Peter doesn't pressure Darcy into having sex, but he clearly thinks he is ready, and is very eager to have sex with her.
** Also used with Declan and Holly J.
** Along with Alli and Johnny.
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** The first time Holly J attempted to have sex, Blue outright said "I won't have sex with you," but they did hardly know each other at the time. Blue was eager, but has a shred moral fiber to him.
* Inverted with ''[[Married... with Children]]'', where Peg Bundy always wants sex and Al Bundy is absolutely sickened by the very thought (though he's only sickened by the thought of sex with Peg, not sex in general).
* In the ''[[That '70s Show]]'' episode "The Pill":
{{quote|'''Donna:''' All I'm saying is we have to wait for the right time.
'''Eric:''' Okay. How about now?
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'''Donna:''' Shut up.
'''Eric:''' I've got a birthday coming up, so... }}
* The kissing variant is used in ''[[Lizzie McGuire]]''.
* The kissing variant is also used in ''[[iCarly]]'' between {{spoiler|[[Foe Yay|Sam and Freddie]]}}.
** this is also somewhat of an inversion:
{{quote|'''Carly:''' you've really never kissed anyone?
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** In Season one Alex has no problem kissing a random guy just to stop her brother from mocking her over never being kissed, and she shows no problems with kissing a random stranger.
** However, when its a guy she actually likes, she's worried about him 'really getting around', and doesn't want to be just another girl to him. Turns out he's just as worried she'll be 'just another girl' and run off to brag to her friends after kissing him.
* All of the guys in the short-lived show ''[[Life As We Know It]]'' are like this, but especially the main character. In one of the episodes, he manipulates his girlfriend into agreeing to have sex with him.
* Finn, from ''[[Glee]]'' is like this, but he's tame compared to Puck, who wears this trope like a badge of honor.
** Probably some form of subversion/inversion, as after the sex he is ashamed and regretful as "it didn't mean anything". He pretty much reacts like the girl in the second example of "where you will see this" in the trope description.
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** Oz is usually the one putting the brakes on things. This fact seems to stem mostly from the way that he's very conscious of a. the fact that he's older and more experienced than Willow and b. that Willow's motives in situations like this aren't always terribly healthy ones. His reaction to Willow's proposed makeouts in "Innocence" is just gorgeous:
{{quote|"Sometimes when I'm sitting in class... You know, I'm not thinking about class, 'cause that would never happen. I think about kissing you. And it's like everything stops. It's like, it's like freeze frame. Willow kissage. Oh, I'm not gonna kiss you." (...) "Well, to the casual observer, it would appear that you're trying to make your friend Xander jealous or even the score or something. And that's on the empty side. See, in my fantasy when I'm kissing you, you're kissing me. It's okay. I can wait."}}
** One could argue that this trope is not so much [[Subverted]] as [[Played With]]--Willow—Willow comes onto him first about their first kiss and sex, but each time she seems to be doing it less because she really wants to and more because of another issue (first to make Xander jealous, later to "apologize" to Oz for cheating on him). While Oz turns her down both times, when they ''actually'' [[You Don't Want to Die a Virgin, Do You?|have sex]], he initiates it.
* Inverted hard and with painful hilarity in [[Flight of the Conchords]]. Bret meets a pretty girl, who pressures and bullies him into having sex before he's ready, lies about shipping out to Afghanistan the next day, avoids and ignores him afterwards, brags about him to her friends and leaves him with a reputation as a man-ho. On the other hand, played straight in the fact that Jermaine thinks that this is a wonderful setup and can't understand why Bret is so upset about it.
* In one episode of [[The Big Bang Theory]] Leonard feels the sting of this particular double standard when {{spoiler|Penny demands sex off him after he ruins her ability to date morons, when he attempts to do the same to both Penny and ex-partner Leslie both reject him out of hand.}}
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== [[Music]] ==
* Averted in "I Wonder What the King is Doing Tonight" from Camelot.
 
 
== [[Video Games]] ==
* A notable subversion in ''[[Dragon Age Origins]]'' with Alistair. Despite appearing to be a seductive, charming gentleman and snarky ladies' man, when your character manages to make him fall for you, unlike other members of your group, he will not "put out" on the drop of a hat because he doesn't feel ready to [[A Man Is Not a Virgin|lose his virginity yet]] and needs you to respect that he needs time.
** Further subverted in that when he eventually is ready and decides to go for it, he is noticeably nervous.
{{quote|'''The Warden:''' Are you sweating?
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== [[Web Comics]] ==
* Inverted in ''[[Girls with Slingshots]]'' where Hazel is the one who is really, really horny and she has to put up with her boyfriend gradually becoming more and more comfortable with the idea of having sex with her.
 
 
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