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{{quote|'''Iwata:''' Wow, I never knew sewer tunnels were so wide and spacious.
'''Watanabe:''' But what's strange is how nice it smells down here.|''[[Excel Saga (anime)|Excel Saga]]''}}
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In real life, most modern sanitary sewers consist of pipes too small for an adult to enter. They typically range from 10 centimeters in diameter coming from individual properties, to maybe 60 to 70 centimeters (roughly two feet) in the street. Even these largest ones can at best only be crawled through, and then only if they are currently empty. Older sewer systems frequently consist of underground canals with relatively narrow walkways on the side.
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Real life spacious sewers do exist. See [http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/dctho/iama_a_drainer_i_explore_sewers_storm_drains_and/ IAMA Drainer]; note also that storm drainage systems, which are quite spacious, are sometimes [[You Keep Using That Word|called "sewers"]], thus explaining at least some versions of this trope.
 
For whole levels set in sewers, see [[Down the Drain]]. Compare [[Unnecessarily Large Interior]].
 
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== [[Anime]] &and [[Manga]] ==
* ''[[Digimon Adventure]]'' managed to fit this trope. Despite, you know, a lack of any reason for sewers to exist in the digital world. But then, that's the digital world for you.
** Considering that the digital world includes such gems of architecture as an upside-down, physics-defying pyramid, an improbably large sewer is the least of their engineering problems.
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* In one episode of ''[[Kimba the White Lion]]'', Kimba accidentally gets himself lost in the sewer system in Paris and then has to fight an elderly leopard that has been thought as a monster living in the sewers.
 
== [[Comic Books]] ==
 
== Card Games ==
* In ''[[Magic: The Gathering|Magic the Gathering]]'', the sewers of the city-world of Ravnica are so spacious that they count as cities unto themselves; justified in that they ''are'' old cities that have been built over. They're mostly used by the Golgari elves and humans to dispose of waste and grow produce for the surface-dwellers, and by Dimir and Rakdos criminals as safe havens, though they also have their fair job of wandering monsters. The place is even referred to as ''The Undercity''.
** In the later expansion Shards of Alara, the plane of Esper has a sewer system known as the Tidehollow, where the plane's more unsavory elements salvage Etherium scrap. Predictably, most of the shard's black mana comes from this region.
 
 
== Comics ==
* As mentioned above, the New York (and London, and Chicago) sewers are home to the Morlocks in ''[[X-Men (Comic Book)|X-Men]]''.
** The original Morlock Tunnels in New York were not sewers or storm drains at all, but a long-abandoned Army construction project originally intended to serve as a mass fallout shelter and then abandoned partway through construction due to cancellation of funding.
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*** It's sequel ''[[Batman: Dark Victory]]'' has Two-Face, Joker, Scarecrow, Mr. Freeze, Poison Ivy...yeah, basically the sewers are large enough to be a small town.
** This is sometimes blamed on a lack of proper planning permission system.
*** Said sewers are also connected to the Batcave (and one issue of Batman/Superman shows that this entrance is guarded by Alfred with a shotgun, leaving Superman to remark "You didn't have a spare Mr. Freeze gun you could've loaned him?"). Those sewer accesses are ALWAYS''always'' big enough to accommodate the Batmobile, Batsub and the Batboat moving at outright irresponsible speeds.
*** In fact in ''[[Batman: Dark Victory]]'', {{spoiler|Two-Face and his gang actually stumble into the Batcave by accident, after fleeing through the sewers from their compromised base.}}
* In the "What If?" type story, ''[[The Punisher]] Kills The Marvel Universe'', the Punisher's first victims are [[Spider-Man]] and Venom, who are fighting in a sewer. Spider-Man is actually able to jump around (Meaning he flies over Venom's head by a good five feet) in the sewer.
** [[Fridge Logic|Yet the reason Punisher picks them off there is because]] [[You Fail Logic Forever|they'd have no room to manouver]]..
* In issue #23 of the original ''[[Wolverine]]'' ongoing series, Wolverine has trapped General Coy and Prince Baran in the Madripoor sewers. There is apparently enough room for all three to run around without crouching or bumping into things, and Wolverine is able to leap at his two enemies to scare them into running.
* Every single incarnation of the ''[[Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles]]'', where they have 2-5 bedrooms, a living room, kitchen, a training area, AND''and'' a garage for the Turtle Van (let's not think about the blimp for now...). It's unclear if Splinter's meditation room and Don's workshop are part of their bedrooms or separate, but the latter's easy to picture considering how huge their underground palace already is. The sewers that ''aren't'' part of their lair are practical rivers so large they can often pilot a swamp-style hovercraft through them.
** Although the sewers in almost every section of the TMNT franchise resemble the real-life New York storm drain system more than ''any'' sewer, and it wouldn't be the first time people have gotten the two terms confused.
** Some incarnations (like movies past the first) place the Turtles' palace in an abandoned subway station, with the Van being stored in nearby abandoned warehouses. However, those locations are always connected to the sewer system, and said sewers are inevitably big enough for the Turtles (especially Michelangelo) to be able to skate and do half-pipes in the sewer pipes.
* In the ''[[Hellboy (comics)|Hellboy]]'' spin-off ''Lobster Johnson: The Iron Prometheus'', the Lobster is able to travel by boat through the New York sewer system. And it's mentioned that there is a subterranean cannibal tribe, though not a bad as the ones under London and Paris.
* The Eel would make his lair in one of these (seriously, the ceiling has got to be like fifteen feet high) in early [[Marvel Comics]], laying low after his defeat by the Human Torch in his first appearance.
* ''[[Nodwick]]'' once [http://nodwick.humor.gamespy.com/gamespyarchive/index.php?date=2002-11-27 found]{{Dead link}} enough of space in one to [[Lampshade Hanging|hang a lampshade]]:
{{quote|'''Yeagar:''' The sewer system is ''big enough'' for you guys to crawl through it?
'''Artax:''' ''Crawl through''? are you ''kidding''? The sewer caverns are ''huge''! You'd almost think the town had been ''trying'' to cause the bar's foundation to ''cave in'' and wash everything out to ''sea''.
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* In ''[[The Beano]]'' the Ratz appear to live in a sewer large enough for a number of things and the sewer enables them to easily get into the houses of humans. However the sewers have never been shown to be large enough to fit humans down them.
 
== [[Film]] ==
 
== Films -- Animation ==
* In ''[[Flushed Away]]'' we see the sewers only from the rats' perspective, but for their purposes, at least, the sewer is large enough for an entire sprawling city.
* ''[[Shrek]] the Third''. This is justified because it was a secret escape route connected to the palace in case of attack.
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* The secret hideout of the cat gang in ''[[An American Tail]]''. Justified for being in New York City in 1885 (they were that big back then) and that from the viewpoints of cats and mice everything is bigger.
* The Gypsies in Disney's ''[[The Hunchback of Notre Dame (Disney film)|The Hunchback of Notre Dame]]'' all live inside a giant sewer system located underneath the streets of medieval Paris. Unfortunately, [[Complete Monster|Frollo]] actually knows where that location is...
 
 
== Films -- Live Action ==
* In ''[[Aliens vs. Predator]]: Requiem'', the town of Gunnison's sewer system is big enough for two grown men to walk through easily, has ducts big enough for chestbursters to hide in, is easy to access by both humans and xenomorphs, and is the setting of a major fight scene between a Predator and two xenomorphs.
** ''"Is that a couch?...Its better than ours!"''
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* ''[[Sweeney Todd: The Demon Barber of Fleet Street (film)|Sweeney Todd: The Demon Barber of Fleet Street]]'': Sweeney Todd and Mrs. Lovett search for their assistant Toby in one of these, which is also featured in the title sequence. While this sewer system is large enough for them to walk upright in, it's also described as being the source of the unusually foul smells of Mrs. Lovett's bakery.
** In the original Sweeney Todd story, "The String of Pearls", the tunnels below Fleet Street were how Sweeney got the bodies of his victims to Mrs. Lovett for baking into pies, since her pie shop was right across the street from his barbershop. Previously, he'd had a good number of dead dudes down there, since he dispatched his victims by using a trick barber's chair to dump them into his basement, taking his razor to any who survived the fall. And unlike the musical, this eventually got the two of them caught when the Bow Street Runners investigated.
* According to the Korean monster film ''[[The Host (2006 film)|The Host]]'', most of the sewers in Seoul are big enough for torchlight not to be seen on the roof—or, for that matter, for a BIG''big FREAKINGfreaking TADPOLEtadpole MONSTERmonster'' to charge through them.
** [[Justified Trope]]: [[Reality Is Unrealistic|it ''is'' set in Korea,]] which gets at least half a dozen typhoons a year. (Not to mention it is raining a lot in the film.)
** Ditto Chicago's sewers, big enough to comfortably house a twenty-foot long ''[[Alligator]]''.
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* The excellent [[Film Noir]] ''[http://www.tvguide.com/movies/walked-night/review/125652He Walked by Night]'' was the first movie to film in Los Angeles enormous storm drains.
* The pipe systems in ''[[The Matrix]]'' series are described as sewers which are big enough for ''whole hovercrafts'' to comfortably navigate through them, and an ''entire city'' inhabited by thousands of people in its lower depths. The sewers were the only remains of the human cities destroyed in the war with the machines.
** And that's just in "The Desert Of The Real". The Matrix itself has a sewer system beneath the Mega-City that rivals [[The Lord of the Rings|the Mines of Moria]]—chambers hundreds of feet wide and ''deep'' connected by twisty catacomb-like tunnels.
* If you thought ''[[Alien (franchise)|Alien]]'' was the first movie to have creepy monsters being stalked through dark tunnels with flamethrowers, you're wrong. The classic B&W 1954 sci-fi movie ''[[Them]]'' climaxes with a hunt through the Los Angeles storm sewer system (including jeeps with mounted machine-guns) for the [[Attack of the 50-Foot Whatever|giant radioactive ants]].
** This film is parodied in a sidequest in ''[[Fallout 3]]'' called ''Those!'', where the player has to kill radioactive, fire-breathing ants in a similarly abandoned sewer system (which the game is rife with.)
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* ''[[Cthulhu (film)|Cthulhu]]''. A scene beneath the fictional town of [[Lovecraft Country|Rivermouth]] was filmed in the real-life Seattle Catacombs, where one of the producers used to work as a tour guide.
* The Jeffries Tubes in ''[[Star Trek]]'' are always [[Air Vent Passageway|just big enough to crawl through]]—except in ''[[Star Trek V: The Final Frontier|Star Trek V the Final Frontier]]'', where they're the size of subway tunnels.
* ''[[Film/SWATS.W.A.T. (film)|SWATS.W.A.T.]]'' has a ridiculously roomy sewer in the last chase scene.
* In ''[[Plunkett and Macleane]]'' the title characters use large sewer tunnels to escape the law on several occassions.
* One of the locations of the floating crap game in ''[[Guys and Dolls]]'', and remarkably clean, too.
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* Averted in ''[[The Shawshank Redemption]],'' which has {{spoiler|Dufresne escape from prison by tunneling a hole in his cell wall and breaking into a sewer pipe that happened to be right next to it. It's big enough for him to crawl through, but not stand up in; and the film [[Vomit Indiscretion Shot|doesn't exactly portray crawling through raw sewage as healthy either]].}}
 
== [[Gamebook]] ==
 
== Gamebooks ==
* The ''[[Lone Wolf]]'' gamebook series contains a few Absurdly Spacious Sewers, most notably the Baga-darooz in Barrakeesh, capital of [[Arabian Nights Days|Vassagonia]]. This sewer is vast enough to house giant lizards and other nasty monsters, and criminals can be condemned to be locked within. Unlike some other fantasy examples, however, it is described as extremely filthy, smelly and insalubrious—just getting an open wound in contact with the water can give you a horrible disease.
** As in, "[[Race Against the Clock]] to get the next [[Plot Coupon]] before you have to hack off the infected arm and/or die screaming."
 
== [[Literature]] ==
 
== Literature ==
* Clare Clark's historical novel ''The Great Stink'' is all about building an improved London sewer system.
* ''Three Hands in the Fountain'' by [[Lindsey Davis]] (a historical mystery set in [[Ancient Rome]] in A.D. 73) is about the hunt for a [[Serial Killer]] who dumps the bodies of his victims into Rome's formidable aqueduct system.
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* In [[Garth Nix]]'s ''[[Shade's Children]]'', which takes place [[After the End]], the sewer system is the primary path of transportation for [[La Résistance]]. Averted very slightly by the fact that the difficulties of walking in a curved pipe and the danger of sudden floods are addressed.
* In Eric Nylund's ''A Game of Universe'', some action happens in a sewer, but since there are no walkways they have to do a lot of wading/swimming.
* ''[[Discworld]]'':
** In the ''[[Discworld]]'' novel ''[[Discworld/Men At Arms|Men Atat Arms]]'', the characters venture into the capacious sewers of Ankh-Morpork. As in the ''[[Futurama]]'' example below, this is partly justified because some segments of the sewers are older incarnations of the city itself, now buried and paved over. In fact the sewer system itself was paved over, with the modern -day residents oblivious to the fact that it ever existed.
{{quote|'''Detritus:''' In Ankh-Morpork even the shit have a street to itself. Truly, this a land of opportunity.}}
** The entirety of Ankh-Morpork is built on the slowly sinking ruins of its past, making it extremely easy for the native/non-native dwarves to tunnel under the city. Morpork doesn't build out from urban sprawl, it builds UP, and then sinks farther and farther.
*** In ''[[Discworld/The Truth|The Truth]]'', Sacharissa Cripslock explains the phenomenon to some dwarfs while availing themselves of the exact same eccentricity of architecture. Basically, Ankh-Morpork is (somewhere down there) built on soft loam. Gradually, slowly, not so you'd notice until you tripped on the sidewalk, the sturdy foundations of the city sank ever deeper into the ground. At certain points in the city's history, street level was a full story above the entrances of the buildings—laddersbuildings; ladders and tunnels were used to get across the street. The Author's Note at the beginning explains that this is based on Seattle, below.
* ''[[Harry Potter/Harry Potter and Thethe Chamber of Secrets (novel)|Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets]]''. [[Justified Trope|Justified]] somewhat because the Chamber's creator was one of Founders of Hogwarts, who meant it to be accessible both by a person and by a giant monster. That, and [[A Wizard Did It|it's magic]].
* [[Neal Shusterman]]'s young adult novel ''[[Downsiders]]'' is about a secret community of people who live underneath New York City and are forbidden to go "topside."
* In the early Neal Stephenson book ''The Big U'', devoted role-playing gamers would enter the sewers to game, with the help of a mainframe computer and a form of [[Mission Control]] acting as DM. (See the ''Mazes & Monsters'' entry below.)
* In ''The War Between the Pitiful Teachers and the Splendid Kids'', a spacious sewer inhabited by the Bookworms (smart kids and teacher's pets) is the last refuge of the [[Kid Hero]].
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* In ''[[The Saga of Darren Shan]]'' absurdly large sewers feature largely in a number of the books {{spoiler|most notably an arena of sorts is built in one part of the sewer and the sewers are used as a base of sorts for the mad vampaneze Murlough.}}
* In the book ''Reliquary'', the sequel to ''The Relic'', much of the action takes place in massive underground sewers, storm drains, maintenance tunnels, abandoned pneumatic train systems (!) beneath New York City. As noted in the [[Real Life]] section below, justified as [[Truth in Television]]: New York City is said to stand on seven storeys of underground tunnels, and the authors add a postscript backing the veracity of much of their claims about the extensive tunnelwork below the city.
* In the ''[[Tortall Universe|Tortall book]]'' book ''Bloodhound'', the climactic battle {{spoiler|takes place in the sewage system. Though the tides causing the waters to rise is addressed, so that the final battle is actually in the dirty water.}}
* An Absurdly Spacious Rubbish Chute {{spoiler|serves as the escape path for Jenna and the Heaps}} in ''[[Septimus Heap|Magyk]]''.
* In ''The Magician'', the second book of ''[[The Secrets of the Immortal Nicholas Flamel]]'' series, Machiavelli and Dee take Josh into the spacious sewers and then the catacombs in Paris to be {{spoiler|Awakened by Mars Ultor}}. This is [[Justified Trope|justified]] because Paris does have an incredibly large sewer system that connects to the catacombs. There is even a special branch of the police force that patrols the sewers.
 
== [[Live -Action TV]] ==
 
== Live Action TV ==
* The pilot episode of ''[[Monk]]''.
* ''[[Pushing Daisies]]'' has the most cheerful and attractive looking sewers I've ever seen. At least one character lives in them.
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* An episode of ''Popular Mechanics for Kids'' is devoted to this, when they go into a sewer to look for a ping-pong ball. Being a show about science and facts, they remark that you always need the proper equipment and that it can be dangerous to go into a sewer. It was actually pretty spacious in there; almost hallway like, IIRC.
* In ''[[Beauty and the Beast (TV series)|Beauty and The Beast]]'', a secret society exists deep underneath New York, in relatively fancy trappings.
* Played pretty straight in the various ''[[CSI Verse|CSIs]]'' series.
* ''[[Dark Angel]]'' Like every. damn. episode.
* ''[[Due South]]'' episode "Manhunt", the Chicago sewers are not only large enough for three grown men and a wolf, they are large enough for three grown men and a wolf to paddle a canoe through.
* Used and averted in ''[[X-Files]]'' season 2, episode 2 "The Host." Mulder visits an absurdly spacious sewer in Newark, N.J., and later remarks about its size to a Newark sanitation engineer, who confirms that section as being part of the older system, while the newer parts are not more than 24 inches in diameter.
* Played straight with size, but averted with toxicity in an episode of ''[[Casualty]]''. It involves [[Too Dumb to Live|two guys]] who want to win a bet (the details of which I forget) which involved walking to the pub by using the sewers as a shortcut. The guys have oxygen supply, but then they start to run out... That's when the paramedics are called.
* The G-Cans System (see Real Life) pops up on occasion in [[Toku]] programs. A recent stand-out example is in ''[[Kamen Rider Decade]]'', where Decade has a high-speed battle with [[Kamen Rider Kabuto|Kamen Rider TheBee]].
* ''[[The Legend of Dick and Dom]]'' has a sewer under the [[Big Bad]]'s castle large enough for the good guys to escape through. They do come out the other side covered in, well, [[Toilet Humor|what you would expect]]. Oddly, this has the opposite of [[Nobody Poops]]; there are very few people in the castle, but [[Covered in Gunge|lots of sewage]] in the sewer.
 
== [[Tabletop Games]] ==
 
== Tabletop Games ==
* ''[[Paranoia]]'' once had an section simply named "Sewerworld!" in the ''Send in the Clones'' adventure. The author observes something to the effect that sewers are remarkably consistent over time. "You could put a Roman sewer-slave in modern Tokyo's ultra-sanitary system... sure it'd be cruel. But he wouldn't wonder where he was..."
* Any sewer in ''[[Dungeons & Dragons]]'' is spacious and comes complete with whole thieves guilds, secret wizard labs, and lots and lots of specially adapted monsters (like the Otyugh and the Cesspit Ooze).
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* As touched on a couple of times above, this trope can occasionally be justified in fantasy games by making the sewer system a series of sunken streets.
* Chaosium's ''[[Thieves' World]]'' boxed set said that Sanctuary's sewers were large enough for armed troops to pass through them.
* In ''[[Magic: The Gathering|Magic the Gathering]]'', the sewers of the city-world of Ravnica are so spacious that they count as cities unto themselves; justified in that they ''are'' old cities that have been built over. They're mostly used by the Golgari elves and humans to dispose of waste and grow produce for the surface-dwellers, and by Dimir and Rakdos criminals as safe havens, though they also have their fair job of wandering monsters. The place is even referred to as ''The Undercity''.
** In the later expansion Shards of Alara, the plane of Esper has a sewer system known as the Tidehollow, where the plane's more unsavory elements salvage Etherium scrap. Predictably, most of the shard's black mana comes from this region.
 
== [[Theater]] ==
 
== Theater ==
* In ''[[Guys and Dolls]]'', the New York sewers have enough room for a full dance number!
* The sewers in ''[[Urinetown]]'' are large enough to hold the rebel "base". And one song with a full dance section.
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* We never actually see the sewers per se in ''[[Les Misérables (theatre)|Les Misérables]]'', as they're in most productions just represented by shafts of light that Valjean walks through, but everything is covered in Literature and Real Life.
 
== Card[[Video Games]] ==
 
== Video Games ==
* A ''lot'' of videogames have this kind of level. For a more comprehensive list, look [http://www.giantbomb.com/sewer/95-348/ here].
* ''[[Airforce Delta|Air Force Delta Strike]]'' had you flying through Absurdly Spacious Subway tunnels.
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* In ''[[Portal (series)|Portal]]'', Chell travels through what appears to be an open-topped sewer... [[Squick|barefoot]].
* ''[[Professor Layton and the Curious Village]]''
* In ''[[Mirror's Edge|Mirrors Edge]]'', multiple highrisehigh-rise buildings can be stuffed into the city's storm drains.
** These are based on the real Tokyo Underground Drainage System... [http://www.akademifantasia.org/?p=572 the real Tokyo Underground Drainage System].
* The video game of ''[[Robots]]'' has a mazelike sewer that is inexplicably set up like a huge pinball machine. You actually have to use a ''transport pod'' to traverse this level.
* ''[[Romancing SaGa]]'' had two: Estamir and Melvir. {{spoiler|The sewers of Estamir were catacombs that could connect North and South Estamir; had a graveyard, and a temple dedicated to a [[Stronger Sibling]] of the [[Big Bad]]. The Sewers of Melvir was a labyrinth that could allow one to enter the palace and had a temple dedicated to the [[Big Bad]] himself.}}
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* ''[[Skies of Arcadia]]'' features such a sewer under the capital city of [[The Empire|Valua]] that the protagonists must go through in order to {{spoiler|[[Big Damn Heroes|rescue their friends in the middle of a public execution]]}}. Partly justified in that it used to be catacombs. However, it's never explained why a city floating above a limitless abyss would need sewers in the first place instead of, you know, [[Fridge Logic|piping all their waste straight into said abyss.]]
* ''[[No One Lives Forever]]'' not only has this, but it even contains a [[Lampshade Hanging|sign]] reading "Obligatory FPS Sewer Section".
* As befitting its tabletop source material, the sewers in ''[[Vampire: The Masquerade Bloodlines|Vampire Bloodlines]]'' are very roomy and connect to almost everywhere - luckily for those Nosferatu players who need to move around without being seeing by mortals.
* ''[[Ratchet and Clank Up Your Arsenal]]'' has a large sewer on Aquatos big enough for Ratchet, Clank, and Skid to break in, a multi-layered area hiding nintey-nine sewer crystals at twenty thousand bolts apart, and a [[Punny Name|humorously named]] weapons dealer of questionable credentials.
* [[Comix Zone]]'s sewers have enough room for our hero, [[Punny Name|Sketch Turner]], to suspend himself from pipes to avoid low attacks.
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* ''[[Yoshi's Story]]'' features two levels set inside giant sewer pipes. The first level, Jelly Pipe, is loaded up with mysterious gunk that clings to the sides. The second, Torrential Maze, is full of rushing water to sweep you away.
* When the heroes from ''[[Shining the Holy Ark]]'' get kidnapped they use a secret passage and escape into the sewers. It appear to be one massive space under a vaulted ceiling, with multiple levels, that is actually bigger than the castle above it. Maybe justified as there were more than one secret entrance to the castle and it's implied that soon of the royalty is entombed there...in the sewers.
* ''[[Global Agenda]]'' gets in on the action with a mission in the subterranean waterways in North Sonara (Recursive Colony Update). It's the sort of spacious that some of the shorter-range turrets can't cover its width.
* There's a huge sewer underneath the village in ''[[Stardew Valley]]'', which is home to the merchant, Krobus, as well as a fishing spot.
 
== [[Web Comics]] ==
 
* Subverted in ''[[Antihero for Hire]]'', where Shadehawk escapes capture through the [httphttps://wwwweb.archive.org/web/20100104113600/http://antiheroforhire.com/d/20090427.html Underground Non-Sewer Pathway System].
== Webcomics ==
* Subverted in ''[[Antihero for Hire]]'', where Shadehawk escapes capture through the [http://www.antiheroforhire.com/d/20090427.html Underground Non-Sewer Pathway System].
* In the ''[[Narbonic]]'' Director's Commentary, Shaennon Garrity openly admits that the design of Helen's sewer-based underground lab comes entirely from the old ''[[Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles]]'' cartoon.
* In ''[[Girl Genius]]'', the sewers of Sturmhalten are not only large enough to walk around in, they're large enough to support a [http://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20060501 deeply alarming ecosystem].
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* ''[[The Order of the Stick]]'' mocks this trope: Azure City not only has such sewers, but there are three tunnels clearly labeled "Ocean", "Anachronistic Sewage Plant", and "Obligatory Sewer-Themed Labyrinth".
* Aversion: The Council team must navigate a proper ''storm drain'' that nominally catches rainwater from a nullah in the first story arc of [[Elf Blood]].
* The sewers of Rio in ''[[Vinigortonio]]'' are large enough to sail a boat down. Lampshaded by the characters:
{{quote|'''Jose Carlos''': I had no idea sewers were so large!!
'''Vinicius''': You'd be surprised at how much they hide from us. }}
 
== [[Web Original]] ==
 
== Web Original ==
* [[The Spoony Experiment|Spoony]] has expressed a hatred of sewer levels in videogames. He was especially disgusted by the game [[Sewer Shark|that's all sewer levels]].
* A sanitary sewer like this appears on the island used for version two of ''[[Survival of the Fittest]]'', spanning the entire island ''underground'', but from the vague descriptions it's implied that people can only just barely move across the walkways on the sides, and that otherwise it's fairly cramped.
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* These have appeared in several ''[[Global Guardians PBEM Universe|Global Guardians]]'' stories, but they are always storm drains and flood-control tunnels, old abandoned subway lines, and other tunnels people were meant to access rather than sanitary lines. The most notable case was when Team America discovered the Twelve Tribes living in the catacombs under New York.
* Partially subverted in [http://gaius0artemis.deviantart.com/gallery/#/d4lwgxe Catacombs of New York]. The sewers there are approximately the size that the real sewers of New York are, until you get to {{spoiler|the buried underground Indian settlement}}.
* "Archons March On" RPG blog has ''[https://archonsmarchon.blogspot.com/2020/06/d6x6-suspiciously-spacious-sewers.html Suspiciously Spacious Sewers]'' random generator (for 6^6=46,656 combinations). The first roll is:
{{quote|* (d6) This sewer’s so damn big because…
# it was expanded by an invading army in a sapping operation.
# the city above is a hub for chthonian mystery cults who use the underground for their rites and temples.
# its builders incorporated the existing cave network below the city.
# it's built through the ruins of a previous city which was ruined and sunk beneath the earth.
# it was constructed by a team of golems who never received the order to stop constructing it.
# it was originally intended to be a supersized alchemical apparatus to extract the fundamentum profundus. }}
 
== Films --[[Western Animation]] ==
 
== Western Animation ==
* ''[[Futurama]]'' really played with this one in a few episodes. New New York's sewers are actually the city of New York, and home to a community of mutants, who mention off-hand that they have a sub-sewer system (home to a community of sub-mutants, according to sub-urban legend). It helps that New New York's sewers connect with the subterranean ruins of old New York. Reality intrudes, however, when the Planet Express crew gets lost down there and Fry says that the only way out is through... a tube that's at most only a few inches wide ("Don't worry, it gets wider after about a mile").
* ''[[Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles]]''. In all incarnations, their sewer lair is larger than any house you've been in ([[Big Fancy House|possibly]]) and the tunnels are wide enough to accommodate vehicles like the tank-sized Battle Shell. It is ''very'' seldom that the Turtles must come into contact with anything you've flushed. In the 1990s cartoon, their original lair was invaded and they later got ''another, even more palatial'' one.
** Kind of justified; Their second lair was actually {{spoiler|an ancient, abandoned [[Atlantis|Elyntian]] outpost}}. They later moved out of the sewers and into a warehouse.
* Mainframe in ''[[Re BootReBoot]]'' was shown to have sewers in one episode. Why digital lifeforms require them is a mystery.
** They're for when someone calls flush();
* In ''[[Sonic Underground]]'', the only way to get very deep into Dr. Robotnik's empire was in... the sewers.
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* ''[[Kim Possible]]'' has done the sewer gig more than once, even twenty years into a dystopian future. In their defense, they actually had to walk through some of the sewer fluid.
* ''[[Freakazoid!]]!'' used this until it became a running gag, with more than one character complaining about "poo gas".
** <s>One character</s> [[Name McAdjective|Roddy McStew]] notes they're called "crud vapors" in his native Scotland.
* Several villains in ''[[Batman: The Animated Series|Batman the Animated Series]]'' based themselves in the sewers, requiring Batman to go there in search of them, most notably the Sewer King and his legion of children, and Killer Croc and Baby Dahl.
* Likewise, ''[[Batman Beyond]]'' ventured into a downright ''cavernous'' sewer system in at least one episode.
* In ''[[The Tick (animation)|The Tick]]'', Sewer Urchin lives in an enormous apartment in The City's sewers, and on some occasions provides the other heroes with goods that are otherwise difficult or impossible to acquire, claiming "You'd be surprised what people throw away, yeah, definitely."
* In ''[[The Spectacular Spider-Man]]'', Flint Marko and Alex O'Hirn flee the scene of a robbery by busting through the store's basement wall, and escaping into marvellouslymarvelously ''cavernous'' sewers, only to be promptly caught by Spider-Man. Later, Spider-Man traps the Rhino in a steam-tunnel created from ruptured sewer pipes. Quarters are tighter, but the [[The Brute|hulking]] Rhino can ''still'' maneuver relatively freely. Half the Sinister Six persuepursue a fleeing Spidey through these sewers as well.
* [[Justified Trope]] for ''[[Where on Earth Is Carmen Sandiego?]]?'', as Carmen Sandiego leaves a clue for Zack and Ivy in the Sewer of Paris.
* In an episode of ''[[Hey Arnold!]]'', Arnold drops his grandfather's watch down a hole to the sewer (which somehow didn't break even though it fell for three seconds before hitting the ground: a 140 foot drop). He descends into the sewer to retrieve it only to find it has been taken by the "Sewer King," a man who lives in the sewer and claims sovereignty over it.
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* In ''[[Ed, Edd 'n' Eddy]]'', the sewers beneath the cul-de-sac, as seen briefly in "High-Heeled Ed" and more extensively in "Boom Boom Out Goes the Ed", are pretty spacious.
* The ''[[Family Guy]]'' episode "Breaking Out is Hard to Do" ends in a sewer that is wide enough to fit two [[Star Wars|TIE fighters]].
** Notably averted in the ''[[The Shawshank Redemption]]'' parody, where Peter barely squeezes through a half mile of dirty sewage escaping.
* ''[[Danny Phantom]]'' had one episode where the sewer system was big enough to support one ghost boy, his currently possessed love interest, and thousands and thousands of big ass vines gunning towards him. Has some incredibly clean water, too.
* Anakin and Obi-Wan wade through one of these in ''[[Star Wars: Clone Wars]]'' as part of a [[Dungeon Bypass]].
* The sewers in the ''[[Batman]]: Gotham Knight]]'' are just effin' enormous, one area seems to be several stories tall.
* The small town of ''[[South Park]]'' even has spacious sewers big enough for the boys (and Mr. Garrison) to walk in when searching for Mr. Hankey in "Chef's Chocolate Salty Balls." Obviously, the presence of a magical talking piece of crap means the "no poop" rule is averted.
** Even ignoring Mr. Hankey, the show is one of very few works to acknowledge the disgusting nature of sewers in general. In one gag, Cartman sneezes on Kyle, who complains that sneezing on others is gross and unsanitary. Cartman responds, "oh, sorry, you wouldn't want to get exposed to germs while you're knee-deep in human feces."
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* This seems to be the deal with the sewers of Mellowbrook on ''[[Kick Buttowski]]'' as Kick manages to operate them quite well, even with Kendall riding with him on his skateboard. They also appear to host crocodiles or aligators.
* ''[[Phineas and Ferb]]'' have this when Candace is required to battle a sewer-dwelling aligator/crocodile to get one of her Fire Side badges.
 
 
== Real Life ==
* [[Truth in Television]] for almost any city of significant size, although what most people would consider "sewers" are actually storm drains that are for carrying excess rainwater away from the city to prevent the streets from flooding.
* London's sewers are in places as spacious as computer games would suggest, having been built on a massive scale in the 19th century to accommodate future population growth (though the network has grown a hundredfold since then). The Victorian-era section of the London sewer system is ''huge'', with several million tons of brickwork and tunnels up to nine feet in diameter. There are also many kilometers of unused underground tunnels built for other purposes, ranging from railways to military bunkers.
** [[The War of the Worlds (novel)|The Artilleryman was right!]]
** AThe [[w:Thames Tideway Scheme|Thames Tideway Scheme]], an upgrade to London's sewers [http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-12427748 first proposed upgradein 2011] toand London'sstarted sewersin 2016, involves adding a section the size of the [[wikipedia:Channel tunnel#Engineering|Channel Tunnel]].
* [http://englishrussia.com/?p=389 ... and Moscow sewers].
* The sewers of Vienna: Most of the sewer system has sidewalks, there are even big storage rooms down there. The film ''[[The Third Man]]'' was partly shot underground.
* Parts of Japan have been integrated into the [http://www.archdaily.com/3591/giant-storm-sewer-system-sitama-japan/ G-Cans project -- a stormwater system so huge] it can be favorably compared to the [[The Lord of the Rings|Mines of Moria]].
* The Sewers of Paris—literally famed in song and story—are a [http://europeforvisitors.com/paris/articles/paris-sewers-museum.htm major tourist attraction].
* Beneath Saint Paul, Minnesota there is a extensive network of several tunnel systems, including both [http://www.actionsquad.org/labsewer.htm active and abandoned sewers]. These sewers also interconnect with several natural and [http://www.actionsquad.org/stahl.htm abandoned man-made caves].
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** Even moreso with Montreal, which has a 32&nbsp;km of tunnels/underground complex doubling as one massive shopping mall spanning most of downtown (The so-called "Ville Souterraine", or "Underground City" to Anglophones, is the largest underground complex in the world). Built because the extremely harsh winters tend to drive pedestrian indoors.
** Rochester, MN also has an underground walkway network that serves a large part of the city. I believe this type of infrastructure is common in cold cities.
*** Further, there ''are'' sections of both Toronto and Montreal's sewers that you ''can'' walk comfortably in standing upright. [https://web.archive.org/web/20130111022549/http://spacingmontreal.ca/2010/04/07/blogger-arrested-in-toronto-sewer-forray/ People have done it (and gotten arrested)], but it is definitely large enough to fit a man standing upright.
** Osaka, Japan has a network of pathways which connect several of the subway stations. The subway stations in Tokyo could count in their own right: several are huge sprawling complexes where multiple subway lines cross.
* Seattle had a major fire in 1898, and to make sewage flow out into the sea (at high tide, it had a habit of... going the other way from outhouses) they simply rebuilt everything on top of the old foundations. That means today there is a sort of [[wikipedia:Underground Seattle|small town buried beneath downtown's streets]]. Highly unsafe in most of it though.
* In Cologne there is a huge hall with two candelabra in it. It was build for a visit from Kaiser Wilhelm II [http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kronleuchtersaal\]
* In the [[wikipedia:Warsaw Uprising|Warsaw Uprising]] the quoters separated by Nazi forces tried to communicate with each other using the sewer system. Of course it could be described as anything but spacious and clean. In one case a whole quoter (both soldiers and civilians) was evacuated by these means.
** Fun fact: [[wikipedia:Warsaw Uprising Museum|The Warsaw Uprising Museum]] has a realfull-size, accessible replica of a Warsaw sewer.
* The street level of Atlanta is today one story above where it was a century ago, due to a system of viaducts built to raise it out of the way of the railroad lines. When the lower level was "rediscovered" in the 1960s, it was turned into [[wikipedia:Underground Atlanta|a shopping and entertainment mall]]. (What else?)
* Not technically a sewer, but Las Vegas has a 515-mile underground flood channel system that [http://www.beneaththeneon.com/ homeless people] [http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/10/24/vegas.homeless.tunnels/index.html actually live in].
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** The University of BC in Vancouver has a similar system, but they're still easily accessible if one knows how. However, nobody goes into them but repairmen and engineering students mucking around.
* Chicago has the Deep Tunnel project, which is a pretty massive-scale water handling project that includes storm flow as well as sewage. Some of the tunnels are easily wide enough to walk through, and it's even possible to get to some of those areas via manhole.
* While not a sewer, and certainly not as extensive as the other examples on this page, Quebec city's Laval University has built a tunnel system under it'sits campus to link every buildings. A student could theoretically pass the whole year without ever needing to go outside, as almost every kind of services and store are available in at least one of the university's building.
** Lakehead University in Thunder Bay has a similar system of tunnels (both public access and service) for the same reason; it gets ''really'' cold in the winter. Sadly, the university has outgrown the public tunnels and only the main buildings are connected, making for a chilly walk to some classes or back to the campus residences.
* Recently-deceasedInfamous British fugitive Raoul Moat evaded capture by the police in Northumberland for eight days in 2010, apparently by [http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/jul/11/raoul-moat-fugitive-avoid-capture hiding in Rothbury's network of storm drains], popping out of manhole covers occasionally to steal vegetables from allotments, and for a stroll in the High Street.
* St. Louis, MO has a fairly large underground made up of sewer systems, old railway tunnels, various tunnels for other purposes, and lots and lots of caves (that have been mostly sealed off). Very few people (if any) in the city know exactly how extensive they all are and it is very illegal to go down into them, and for good reason. The sewers, tunnels, and caves are so full of toxic gas build up that going down into them without a copious amount of protective equipment is practically suicide, and that's assuming a collapse doesn't kill you (since the older ones aren't exactly easy to maintain).
 
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