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== Apollo is related to [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Psych Shawn Spencer] ==▼
Since [[Hyper Awareness]] runs in Apollo's family, that explains Shawn's ability to detect evidence▼
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** {{color|red|H}} Perhaps Shawn had the [[Hyper Awareness]] before the training, and his dad trained merely to improve the ability.▼
▲Since [[Hyper Awareness]] runs in Apollo's family, that explains Shawn's ability to detect evidence
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== Joe Darke is Cody Hackins' father. ==
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== Phoenix actually is part spirit medium. ==
This explains why is is able to hear Mia, even though he hasn't trained in Kurain or elsewhere.
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** Gah! ''...How did they...?'' Very well, I concede that point. However, that still doesn't explain why Phoenix can see Mia without being a spirit medium, unless he ''is'' part (and ''only'' part) spirit medium!
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*** Um... Please forgive me, but I do not have evidence, merely a question. If all it was was Phoenix seeing her because it was the "bleak darkness of despair", then why is it that Godot is able to see (or, at the very least, ''sense'' her) at the end of PW:T&T Case 4? Is he having a shared hallucination with Phoenix? Or is it possible that Phoenix, being part spirit medium, was maybe able to "channel" (sorry, I couldn't think of a better word for it, yes I know that it's not channeling) her spirit enough to touch the heart of Godot?
**** Phoenix never saw her in that instance, or heard her, or otherwise sensed her. This troper takes it as Godot seeing a bit of Mia in Phoenix's undying struggle towards the truth, seeing that Mia "is living on in him." This is supported by the fact that the thing that made Godot drawn to her in the first place was her belief in her clients to the bitter end. Also, Godot had demanded that Mia stay out of that particular court battle, insisting that Phoenix man up and battle alone. Plus, Mia's spirit was still residing in Pearls's body at that time.
*** '''''Witness Testimony''''' ''I think Mia is just too awesome to be stopped by something as puny as death. Phoenix is just lucky she likes him enough to bail him out again and again.'' You may now cross-examine this statement.
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** In regards to the statements that only women can be Spirit Mediums, allow me to say that Pearl asked Phoenix if he studied some different technique when they first met (of course, she was very confused at what exactly a [[What Kind of Lame Power Is Heart, Anyway?|Lawyer Medium]] could do), possibly suggesting that there are other ways of channeling spirits besides the Kurain way.
** The above statement is extremely likely. In 2-2, Pearl indeed mentions that. Phoenix would be part spirit medium, just not part ''Kurain'' spirit medium.
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== Phoenix is [[Detective Conan
Policeman turned lawyer turned Private Eye 'Richard Moore' was Phoenix in between PW 3 and AJ. They both have a terrible curse of dead bodies being everywhere they go. Phoenix has always looked up to lawyers; his ex-wife is thus a lawyer. Both have basic knowledge of crime scenes, but can be pretty incompetent. They both need someone to walk them through it or just solve the case for them (Conan, Mia/Maya/any Fey). Phoenix is shown to have an interest in poker and gambling. All that 'grape juice' really is beer, as we know Richard Moore loves, but he's grown a tolerance to it. Both are world-famous, but after the disbarring, no one brought up his lawyer days out of consideration/fear. He couldn't get a case in his beginning days as a PI because of his reputation as a lawyer. After he 'solved a few cases' however, people began to overlook it. Hobo!Phoenix is Phoenix/Richard after PI-ing also fails for him, since he already failed at being a policeman and lawyer. Rachel lived with her mom up until Phoenix enters his Richard stage of life, then she moves back with her mom by AJ (likely due to bad parenting). Hobo!Phoenix really adopted Trucy much later (he was having a friend take care of her), because he missed Rachel once she went back to living with her mom.
* He also lost the spikes because he didn't want people to recognize him, though he eventually opted for Trucy's knit beanie. He began smoking because he was so jaded. The Phoenix shown in the flashback case (4-4) seemed awfully cocky. After being disbarred, out of shock, this facet of his personality grew worse and worse until it became Richard Moore's personality. By AJ, he's mellowed and cleaned up his act, but he's still more like Richard than his old Phoenix self.
== The Judge was a Prosecutor in his youth. ==
Think about it. His [[Parental Favoritism|Favoritism]] towards the Prosecutors is blatantly obvious. He allows Franziska to physically assault people, Godot gets no reprimand for throwing scalding hot coffee at the defense and even when there's rock solid evidence that the defendent is innocent he still refuses to declare them not guilty until the real murderer is found. And even then he gladly accepts whatever straws the real murderer is clutching at. This would also explain why he is so [[Hello, Nurse!|easily enamored by a couple of female witnesses]] but is completely unaffected by Mia's large breasts.
* Mia never tries to use them on the Judge. He's pretty gullible and is pretty easily led. As for Godot and Franziska, I always interpreted letting them get away with their antics as a result of being afraid of them.
* Makes sense, because judges are usually lawyers with additional training. So it's a 50/50 at the very least that the Judge was a prosecutor.
== This series is linked to the Buffyverse... ==
...via Wolfram and Hart. They are the ones Lana Skye "sold her soul" to, and are also responsible for extraditing Godot from Hell.
* There really IS a Demon Prosecutor somewhere.
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When Mia was murdered, she unknowingly would put a part of her soul in Phoenix. That would make him a Horcrux, which explains why he, who isn't a spirit medium, can occasionally hear her. Also, since she would have a Horcrux, even if her body was killed she would still be half-alive, which explains why she can be so easily summoned by Maya or Pearl.
* And we know that by messing up with the Magatama you can shatter your soul, so maybe Mia was really bad when using it, which is why her soul was fractured and a piece of it entered Phoenix!
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== The Judge is a [[Reality Warper]] ==
See the above suggestion.
** Fridge Horror since on the first day of case 1-4, {{spoiler|Edgeworth}} was declared guilty for about five minutes before {{spoiler|Larry}} stepped in. He was later found not guilty. So did he become guilty and then reality flipped back or what?
== Ini and Mimi Miney have a brother called Moe Miney ==
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== The "legal system" in the games is, in fact, an aspect of the afterlife where the people are judged for their sins. ==
Though the lawyers in the system don't know it, they're in fact tasked with helping the process of judging people who have died, to decide whether they're good and go to heaven, or bad and go to hell.
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* Clerical Errors, after all, all [[Celestial Bureaucracy|bureaucracies]] make mistakes at times.
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*** She got promoted out of the game (between the flashback cases and 1-2) and was used as a "trial by fire" for Phoenix to prove he was ready. She can still give him help, but only cryptic, practically useless hints (there are rules about this sort of thing). Perhaps every lawyer in the game has a "spirit" helping them. Fransiska could have her father, Edgeworth, maybe his father, Godot might have Mia as well, and Apollo? He has Phoenix. He doesn't need a spirit aid.
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* This particular trope amuses me, in part, because it can also be argued to be rather close to the original Jewish plot of the Book of Job. (For those unaware: in the traditional Jewish viewpoint, it is far less of a bet between God and Satan and rather a case of ''humanity itself'' being put on trial--with Job being the defendant/defense attorney representing humanity as a whole, God being the judge, and [http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/view.jsp?letter=S=270 ha-Satan being the prosecuting attorney]{{Dead link}}--right down to using curses as "cross examination", using Job's best friends as a form of attempted witness against the defense, and so on.)
** Some modern (Christian) Biblical researchers even have pointed out [http://www.physorg.com/news75128924.html Satan has a traditional characterisation not unlike Miles Edgeworth] before his [[Heel Face Turn]]--an overzealous prosecuting attorney willing to do ''anything'' to win a case.
*** ...And Edgeworth wears red, the traditional colours of Satan/hell/devils/etc.
** And this pretty much makes this trope officially [[Older Than Feudalism]].
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*** People who are still alive.
*** Spirits who are undoubtly going to heaven or hell?
*** Made up people to create an exscuse for the dead people to be put on trial.
== The characters in the game series "speak" in text. ==
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* There was an ad in Japan for the first DS remake where all the characters had voiceovers for their text, except in one scene where Phoenix and Maya started making the usual bip-bip-bip noise of text appearing instead, and Edgeworth got mad about it. Since they could still understand each other, this makes it pretty clear that they can "read" the text.
** In a Japanese ad for the fourth game, everyone has voice acting except for Apollo, who has to speak in text-and-beeps. Everyone can understand him ''and'' is aware of the beeping...
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** Maya may just have been unfamiliar with the word. She's not exactly a character one would expect to be fluent in 1337-speak, and could have been trying to "translate" it without having any idea what it meant.
** As for the Maggie/Maggey evidence, this actually becomes a piece of [[Fridge Brilliance]] when you realize that the defendant who makes this mistake is ''missing his glasses''! As for Gumshoe...well, he IS Gumshoe. He probably just didn't read the picture very carefully.
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== The series takes place in a totalitarian dictatorship; the trials are just for show ==
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We never see Manfred Von Karma's trial, which makes sense because the focus is on defense attorneys. For the purposes of this theory, however, we shall assume that it takes place in the gap between [[WMG/AA 3|AA 3]] and [[WMG/AA 4|AA 4]], Von Karma clearly having enough legal skill to tie up the courts for that amount of time. Some of the clues Phoenix finds in [[WMG/AA 1|AA 1]] seem the result remarkably sloppy cover-up, especially for a [[Magnificent Bastard]] of Von Karma's character... but that's because the evidence is faked! [[Xanatos Gambit]] time! At his eventual trial for murder, Von Karma proves that the evidence Phoenix submitted during the first trial are forgeries, simultaneously getting an acquittal, and forever soiling Wright's reputation as a lawyer. Only foolish fool foolishness would lead one to believe that they could go up against a Von Karma without repercussions.
* A tip of the Attorney Badge to xdelicious, who's Phoenix Wright [[Xanatos Gambit]] submission inspired this theory.
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*** Well, they certainly have a shared tendency to [[Disproportionate Retribution|overreact]].
** Not to mention that Trials and Tribulations makes it clear that von Karma is deceased.
*** The above theory was written by someone who had only heard vague spoilers for the third and fourth games, as such, consider it Jossed
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== Ema Skye is hot. ==
Don't deny it. Its better than the other theories here....
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*** TAKE THAT! But the other one is sixteen.
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**** Urk! (I thought I was on the right track...? Damn, I don't have any other options!) The defense...the defense...
***** Phoenix...your looking at this the wrong way. Don't ask why she isn't hot...point out evidence that only exists because she isn't...wow. Is that her? [[Ho Yay|And I thought Lana was hot...]]Nevermind, Wright. Your on your own on this one.
**** Phoenix Wright!!! You foolishly foolish fool! Only an idiot would not think of a night with Ema once laying eyes on her I mean...was that out loud? Shut up, lets go home Adrian.
**** No fisher brags about any fish but the one that got away, Trite. Ema is not nearly so objectionable as you claim. The unavailable ice queen angle is still quite attractive. Or would you really ::slams mug on desk:: {{color|red|...turn down Franziska Von Karma as well?!}}
**** ...! Godot! ::slams hand on desk:: I must ask you not to bring up Wright's relationship with Franziska! For...er..personal reasons.
** The defense would like to propose that Detective Skye is, indeed, a stone-cold fox, if you manage to snap her out of her bitchiness. As evidence, he would like to present various pieces of forensic investigation equipment, which make her instantly more personable. If you date her, bring a fingerprinting kit.
** I find her young self cute as heck, and for her older self, the ice queen types normally annoy me, but something her attitude is funny (QUIET, SNACK TIME) and her happy go lucky self can come out every so often, generally with the aid of scientific crap
* ORDER! (bangs gavel) We're here to discuss if Ema Skye can be considered "hot". We aren't discussing if she's the hottest thing in the series, just does she qualify. Any more bickering about irrelevant topics will result in penalties!
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*** (Gasp!) Mr. Nick! How dare you do that to Mystic Maya! (Slap)
** What's going on in this thread, pal?
*** Say, Nick, you can hook me up with this Ema chick, right? Nick, buddy?
*** ::Wince:: Your Honor...this is...this is undue badgering of the troper! I won't let this...rookie slander the woman whom rid me of my hair!
*** Wait a sec, folks. This gal's got her two cents, too! Ain't this "Mia" gal dead? ::''Looks at picture'':: HOO DOGGY! That's ghost I saw in my [http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100910141344/aceattorney/images/a/a5/Victorywv1.png picture!]
**** (Slams Gavel) That's enough! The evidence presented to me is quite clear. I see no reason to continue this trial. This court finds Ema Skye VERY HOT BUT IS STILL A [[Defrosting Ice Queen
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**** A splendiforous deduction, Mr. Wright. ::"flashes rings":: But I would prefer my darling little April May, wouldn't you agree?
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== Kay Faraday is hot. ==
She charmed a national ambassador who's twice her age within hours, made even [[Whip It Good|Franziska]] and [[Badass|Detective Badd]] show softness with her, somehow convinced Edgeworth to not immediately dump her somewhere when they first met despite how annoyingly [[Genki Girl|Genki]] she has, and later managed to drag him off to the Allebaht/Babahl embassy events when he just wants to take it easy after spending the previous day investigating '''three''' murder cases at a pace that made [[
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** (Barges in) Mr, Edgeworth, sir! We just got a report back from the boys in the lab, and it says Kay's very short skirt is more than a little titillating! I think this might be enough to prove she's hot, pal!
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*** We accept her skirt into evidence and concede on the matter of Objective Hotness. Ah, but lest you forget the rest of her outfit, her ugly rubber boots nullify the hotness of her legs and short skirt. While you could be looking at a whole lotta leg or some fetish-y Zettai Ryouiki, these abominations of footwear stare you right in the face. You cannot concentrate on a ruffling skirt when those things catch your eye. Furthermore, Kay has no fashion in any sense of the word. Her ensemble does her body a disservice. Her scarf does a fine job of covering up her neck and collar bone and any other sexy elements. Her outfit in general looks terrible, and her face is an awfully generic "mischevious face", offering no unqiue appeal. Now if you wish to suggest that Kay is hot au natural or in other clothing, without her joke of an outfit, I may have to reconsider.
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== Edgeworth would make a hot woman. ==
* He'd certainly pull of a Tres Bien uniform better than Wright.
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* Scar... [[Stupid Sexy Flanders|OR]] [[Attractive Bent Gender|IMPRESS]]?!
* ::Gavel bang:: No, just scar. ::Penalty::
* {{color|blue| (Ack! I must be on the wrong track! ... Maybe I can turn this case all around... Think outside the box...)}} Aha! I have you now, Your Honor! I move to accuse ::close up, speedlines:: the judge of murder!
== Dick Gumshoe is hot. ==
... Well, I think so anyway.
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** ''Yet.''
** ''Where'' was Edgeworth during ''[[Apollo Justice]]''...?
*** Abroad, most likely. Edgeworth seems to spend a lot of time abroad. Whether this entails studying foreign legal systems or bedding six German milk maids simultaneously, I can't say.
== Godot was hospitalized at [[House (TV series)|House]]'s hospital. ==
Godot was in coma since Dahlia poisoned him, and was awoken when he smelled the aroma of the coffe a doctor brought to his room. And House has been know to use the comatose patient's room as cafeteria.
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For those who say this is a completely overcomplicated explanation that makes no sense, you've obviously never had anything to do with Chrono Cross.
* Yet more 'Nickwank' * tallies*
* Ezekiel finds this explanation both straightforward and logical.
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== Gant is Phoenix's father. And Apollo's. And Zak Gramarye's. ==
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== Pearl's father is Manfred von Karma. The two evils cancelled each other out and made Pearl the bastion of sweetness that she is. ==
I take your Pearls and raise it to the fact that not only is Pearl really Manfred's daughter, but Franziska von Karma is Misty (and I ''do'' mean Misty)'s daughter. Manfred vK doesn't have any 'good' children- his oldest daughter is a failure, and his wife died in childbirth. He finds that (though it goes against his nature) he misses his wife, and goes to Kurain village to channel her. Misty accomplishes this, and they end up spending... 'time' together. Later, Misty 'wakes up', and in 9 months she is pregnant. Her husband has left her by now, and she doesn't know what to do. Manfred wishes to have his wife's spirit channeled again, and he goes back to Kurain village to find that Misty is pregnant. Putting two and two together he realizes that it is possibly ''his'' child. When the child is born, Manfred vK blackmails Misty (using Maya and Mia...?) into giving him the baby. She complies, and tries to forget about it ever happening. The baby is named 'Franziska', and all is well. At least, until DL-6 when Misty vanished. He tries to ignore that she is gone, but at the same time she was the one who could contact his dead wife. He eventually tried to get someone else to channel his wife, and he got to Morgan. She had guessed what had happened to Misty, and so she agreed to channel Manfred's wife. She did not wish to actually ''channel'' her though, and instead she made sure she knew enough that she successfully faked channeling his wife. She wished for a child as a 'Take That!' against her husband who had left her, and her knowledge of Manfred vK lead her to decide that he would be a good 'sperm donor' as it were. She made sure that she hid her signs of pregnancy, and then had the baby girl early. It worked, Manfred became too busy with adding the finishing touches to perfecting Miles Edgeworth, and his daughter was becoming a prosecutor in her own right, and he missed the fact that he could have had another daughter. Morgan named her daughter "Pearl" after the way a Pearl is created when a tiny grain of sand- a seed, if you will- gets into the Oyster. She raises her child hoping that Pearl would turn out to be as ruthless as her father, however she didn't think about the impact that Mia and Maya would have on her precious.
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* An attempt to put this theory in a legible story format can be found [http://loracarol.deviantart.com/art/PW-Crack-Theorem-157058204 here]. It's a little easier to read than the mass of text above. X3
== Viola Cadaverini and Vera Misham were [[Separated
Either that, or Drew used to be or had an affair with someone of the Cadaverini family, and had Vera later. Think about it. Both of them are thin, waifish, sickly-looking girls who are disturbingly quiet, with ties to a criminal underworld. Not to mention that both of them ended up smack in the middle of poisoning cases that involved a poisoned cup of coffee. Coincidences? I think not!
== Misty Fey is Miles Edgeworth's mother. By this same logic Gregory Edgeworth is Mia and Maya's father. ==
Miles mother is never mentioned in canon and the Fey's father is mentioned only in passing. So what if the other is the missing parent of each family? Say Misty and Gregory fell in love with each other. Mia was born, but they realized they had a problem when Miles was born. Kurain's inner family politics is vicious and the Branch Fey families are not afraid to use anything or person to their advantage. There is also the fact that Kurain is not all that friendly towards men. In order to protect and give Miles a normal life, Gregory covered up all connections he had with Misty so they could never use his son as a pawn. Misty and Gregory still secretly kept in touch with each other and visited each other occasionally, later resulting in the birth of Maya. When the tragedy of DL-6 occurred, Misty knowingly went along with Gregory's lie about Yanni Yogi in order to protect their son from suspicion. The guilt of that act, as well as the shaming of the Fey family name is what drove her into self-exile. As the result of those two's efforts neither Miles nor the Fey sisters realize they are siblings.
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* I wrote about this at length some time ago on CR. Whether or not Edgey was an illegitimate child is up to debate, but it ''was'' possible for Gregory to have had some sort of relationship with Misty. As the Master of Kurain, infighting directed at Misty's immediate family would have been particularly intense, and we know already that Fey men often leave due to the structure of the Fey family and the fact that men have no place in the Kurain tradition, so it's not unlikely that Gregory left Misty and took Miles with him to protect him from the family's power complex. The possibility that Gregory and Misty had some sort of connection is made more likely when we consider Misty's involvement in DL-6: having a spirit medium aid a murder investigation was a first, and it carried with it the enormous risk of ruining the reputation of both the police department and the Kurain Channelling Technique. Misty wouldn't have had a lot of reason to help out unless she had a personal connection to the case, which she would have had if Miles was her son. Fast forward to the present, and we see that Edgeworth also bears quite a physical resemblance to the Feys, to the point where his and Young Mia's "shocked" animations are identical. He is also, notably, able to use the Magatama despite his fervent disbelief in it and his lack of guidance by someone who knew how to use it.
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== Phoenix Wright is [[Batman]]. ==
Think about it. He realized that his days as an active superhero were over, and decided to protect the innocent in another way - as a defense attorney. He had to change his name, of course, or else he'd be too conspicuous. On top of this, has anyone else noticed that despite complaining about the bills and yet not taking on many jobs, that Phoenix oddly manages to keep his house rented and pays for Maya's appetite? As Batman, he'd have his fortune to mooch off of. To top it off, it's obvious that the spikes in his hair are simply a result of him hiding his old Batman spikes in it to use as backup weapons.
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* Phoenix has a house?
* You know, I can easily see many Batman characters fitting in to the Pheonix Wright universe. Seriously. Picture a courtroom battle between Phoenix Wright and Two-Face. So easy!
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== Apollo's father is still alive. ==
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Now, I know characters in the AA universe tend to have [[Prophetic Names|astoundingly appropriate names]], but not usually the main characters, Gumshoe excepted. Add that to the fact that he grew up an orphan, his [[Catch Phrase]] and his general passion for the law, and it's easy to see him taking the name 'Justice' and possibly even the name 'Apollo' for himself.
== The trials are actually a strange version of the [[The World Ends With You
Relating to the afterlife judging idea near the top, the trials are actually a way of judging whether the dead have the right to come back to life. They judge the memories of the souls and use a crime from their past as a fake trial. Also, the judge is the Composer.
* Well, in any case, this can't really be disproved yet, because we've only seen Shibuya's Game; Joshua implies that other cities could be very different.
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**** In that case, it follows logic that Ema as the detective in [[AA 4]], defeated the former Composer, taking his place, explaining the cast change, since she wanted to put her own spin on the game. Her bitterness comes from the fact that she has to be a detective, as part of her role as Conposer, rather than her dream job.
***** When you consider that Phoenix used to be a defendant himself(a player), who then went to being a lawyer, then to being a hobo with nobody from the first 3 games 'on his side' apart from Ema, it's not hard to believe that he ascended. Why is Phoenix still around? He's the Producer, which is why he can bend time. If Producers can reality hop, time hopping should be child's play.
****** Wait, so Phoenix went from Player, to Reaper, to Harrier, to freaking [[Crouching Moron, Hidden Badass|PRODUCER?]] My gosh, we were controlling an Angel all along.
** ALL of the attorneys are Reapers. Like in Shibuya's Game, the lifespan of a Reaper depends on the number of souls they erase, but unlike Shibuya, there's usually only one or two souls erased per Game, so the Reapers are forced to compete with each other - prosecutors tag certain souls for Erasure at the beginning of the Game and have to stick with that soul for the whole time, while defense attorneys are allowed to pick and change what soul they want to Erase at any time but, as a price, face much higher difficulties. This also explains why having a perfect winning streak is such a big deal, to the point where several Reapers are willing to bend or break the rules - the longer they can keep up their streak, the longer they stay in the game.
** After her first acquittal, Maya became Phoenix' assistant - thus, she chose to become a Reaper instead of incarnating. Considering that not all Reapers have to erase Players to extend their lifespan (otherwise the Wall Reapers or 777's behaviour don't make sense), defense attorneys could just be another kind of Reaper who test the Player's Soul.
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** Nope, it was definitely the book depository.
== Redd White is the victim of a [[
All those 'suicides' he was apparently responsible for were murders via Death Note designed specifically to set him up. Then the guilty party wrote in 'Mia Fey: Blunt force trauma. Killed by an intruder to her office' and 'Redd White: Suicide. Breaks into the legal office where papers incriminating him are being kept and takes the papers through any means necessary. Later that week, is extremely insolent towards a lawyer investigating the death of his superior, then calls the police to have said lawyer arrested for murder. Five days later, commits suicide in his jail cell'.
* Can't the [[
* Perhaps the Kira was very clever at manipulating things to frame White. Probably not though. New theory: White himself is a former Kira, and for each of the people being blackmailed he wrote in 'redrafts his/her will to leave a large sum of money to Bluecorp, then commits suicide'. However, he for whatever reason lost his Death Note before the beginning of the series.
** [[Fridge Brilliance]]: The papers that Mia Fey hid were pages from the the Death Note that she managed to steal from Redd White and wrote this scenario in it: 'Redd White: Suicide. Breaks into the legal office where papers belonging to him are being kept and takes the papers after killing Mia Fey with the container the papers were in. Later that week, is extremely insolent towards a lawyer investigating the death of his superior, then calls the police to have said lawyer arrested for murder. Five days later, commits suicide in his jail cell'
== Daryan Crescend is Elvis ==
Really, I've only written this because there are already entries guessing this about [[Scrubs
== Coffee is what saved Godot from being poisoned, and is what's required to keep him alive. ==
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*** Sources please. Which [[Word of God]] is this?
*** While I don't know nothing about this [[Word of God]] you guys are talking about, I never doubted that he survived that. What makes you think he died, pal?
**** The last picture in the credits, where he's shown standing next to Misty and Mia, basically watching over the others with them.
== The Ace Attorney series takes place in an alternate universe where the Nazis won. ==
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* When a Prosecutor from Germany visits LA, he or she is treated with extreme deference, and may be assumed to be familiar with the US legal system... perhaps because the US and German legal systems are now one and the same. The same goes for German rock stars.
** The US and German legal systems aren't one and the same. You can become a lawyer at a younger age in Germany.
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* And most tellingly, given that this is LA, where are all the minorities? There aren't any.
* Except for the Japanese. Aha.
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*** There's a simple answer for this, and it also helps explain why the Nazis won. Remember that message Germany tried to send to Mexico during [[WW 1]], encouraging them to attack the US? In this AU, they got it. And followed it.
** That may be so, but the defense would like to point out that during the Holocaust, there was also rampant persecution of homosexuals. Explain the continued existence of ''half the damn cast.''
*** In this AU, [[Ho Yay]] is outlawed. That's why there aren't any explicitly established homosexuals in the cast. Not even Jean.
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**** He's French illegal immigrant. In AU's, everything is possible.
** Game 3 case 1 mentions both the Union Jack and "stars and stripes" still exist, how would this be if the Nazis took over?
*** It's a common misconception that the goal of Nazi Germany was world domination, or even domination of Europe. They supported fascism elsewhere, and definitely wanted to set up Western Europe as client states and recolonize, but they never actually seriously set out to conquer the world.
*** Even if they conquered the world, states need flags too.
* Incidentally, Apollo Justice takes place in ''another alternate universe'' where the Nazis lost, but the Soviets won. Think about it. The AJ courtroom has [
== Dahlia Hawthorne is indirectly responsible for the deaths of thousands. ==
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** True, but think of it this way. A 'rare' disease is defined as a disease that affects at most 5 out of every 10,000 people, or about .05% of the population at most. Now, .05% of the worldwide population is still a hell of a lot of people. Maybe incuritis isn't that prevalent, but medical treatment for it has been hampered thanks to Dahlia for 12 ''years'' (Five for the jump from her being arrested to end of [[AA 3]], and seven more for the jump from [[AA 3]] to [[AA 4]]). It adds up.
== Apollo is a graduate of [[Death Note
He's an orphan (well, not really), is incredibly perceptive like the other Wammy's graduates (albeit in a different way), his name is clearly a fake, and he became a lawyer at 22, younger than Phoenix and Mia, without having to be raised by a Von Karma and/or in Germany, like all the other prodigy lawyers. He was clearly being raised to be the world's greatest detective, but for whatever reason found the courts more interesting, decided to become a lawyer instead, and was disowned by the house. Following on from this, Godot is L (they both love caffeine and have similar hairstyles), Matt Engarde is Mello (both have blonde hair in similar styles, and (spoilers for both ''Death Note'' and ''Justice For All'') {{spoiler|both are involved in kidnapping, Mello's friend is called Matt, both have large scarring on one side of the face (different sides, admittedly), and both are borderline sociopaths}}). Gumshoe is Matsuda (they're both policemen who mean well but who aren't the sharpest tools in the shed). And Mikami is...I don't know, but it has to be someone. He is a prosecutor, after all.
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* She carries it just in case--but keep in mind she meets her idol Miles Edgeworth in this case. [[Squick|She probably kept that footage forever]].
== Phoenix didn't try to find the truth and [[Apollo Justice|reclaim his badge]] because [[Ghost Trick:
''Obviously.'' I mean, how many people did Sissel un-kill in one night? If we assumed ''[[
== Matt Engarde is a former successful child star, and has been in show business a long time. ==.
Well, he's only 21. How ''else'' do you think he got that evil?
* Does that mean that Corrida is also a former child star?
** A slightly less successful child star. This feeling of inferiority led him to discover Matt's deep, dark, secret of totally having a crush on the red-headed girl from math class, ''even though girls have cooties''. Juan then planned to expose this scandal, ruining Matt's 'no girls allowed like a spring breeze' image. This, in turn, led Matt to hire the school bully to give Juan a wedgie.
*** I remember reading a forum post which mentioned how interesting it would be if Matt and Juan's rivalry started in childhood and escalated. You know, Matt flicked paint on Juan's head, then Juan stole Matt's pencil, and so on.
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* And got his sister in law disgraced.
* This is... unsettlingly plausible.
* Which means that Dahlia and Iris are...
** ...That makes so much sense. -ponders- He married Morgan to stimulate his business and when Misty took over because of her greater spiritual power, he plotted with Morgan to disgrace her. However, he wasn't going to wait twenty years and left her, taking his children with him and then being convinced to drop Iris off in Hazakura Temple. This theory certainly explains why you can show Morgan Mia's picture and she just smiles. Secretly thanking her bastard of a incarcerated ex? Hell yes! Plus, Dahlia seems to [[Like Father, Like Son|likes to dye her hair...]]
== Ema and Klavier are secretly an item ==
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* So what does this mean regarding the fact that he lost the badge in game 4?
* He has ED?
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*** This had ''better'' be unrelated to Missile eating all the hotdogs.
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Related Guess: Phoenix carries a bit of Fey blood. How else does he see or hear Mia's spirit without having Maya or Pearl around to channel her? Also, Ami's [[Butt Monkey]] status can be seen by what happens to the things most closely related to her. The Sacred Urn has been broken at least three times, and those are just in the last twenty years or so. That gold statue of hers and its sword have been involved in two murders in one year, one of those being Ami's direct descendant.
== Winston Payne will be the protagonist of the next Ace Attorney Investigations. ==
Nuff said.
** Who?
** Why would the janitor of the Prosecution Offices start solving crimes?
== 7-8 years latter, Pearl Fey has [[Gag Boobs]] ==
Because it would be funny (on a related note, [[Relative Error]] MUST be her reaction to Trucy/Apollo)
* On that note, Maya turns out to take after her sister as well.
** The prosecution submits that being a pettanko is part of Maya's charm, as well as her personality. Unless they give Maya a personality redo like with Hobo!Nick, a flat chest will forever and always be associated with her.
* HOLD IT! Maya is still tiny at the age of 19. Pearl with Gag Boobs? Maybe. Maya? Nope.
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== In German versions of this game series, The Von Karmas And Klavier were trained in Japan ==
Think about it. In the original Japanese versions, the Von Karmas etc. were from America, and the regular lawyers from Japan, where the series takes place. In the American version, since the setting shifts to America, the prosecutors are now from Germany. In the German version of this game series (which I know there is one of, but I can't find any information on), the series will come full circle, and the Von Karmas and the like will be from Japan.
* Sorry, fellow troper, it's not the case. I have one of the European versions of JFA (comes with French and German language options as well as the regular English one.) And I can say from my playthrough of it in German that the Von Karmas, at least, are from Germany as much as they are in the English version. Would have been brilliant if it did go full circle like that, though.
== [[Metal Gear|The Patriots]] are the Totalitarian Dictatorship from the previous WMGs. ==
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* The crossover potential is amazing.
== The Phoenix Wright series is set in the [[The Venture Brothers
Specifically, in Underland. Think about it, the only people that ever seem to be up for trial are going to get the death penalty. It's been established that Baron Underbheit has established the death penalty for all infractions of Underlaw.
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** Jossed, it's "Trick and Gimmick".
== This series takes place in the [[
Only five years after the Kira case, and the world has already bounced back aaaaall the way. No reason for it, except it would be cool.
* Expounding on this a bit: The United States overreacted after the Kira case and went too far in the other direction, declared martial law, and suspended Habeas corpus. The government would now rather ''put innocents to death'' than risk the appearance of another Kira, especially not within its own borders.
== The Phoenix Wright in the fourth game isn't the real Phoenix. ==
He is in fact [[The World Ends With You
== The events of the ''[[
In the ''[[
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** Mustrum Ridcully seems like a better candidate for Damon Gant's ancestor than Granny Weatherwax.
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== Phoenix will become a Godot-esque character ==
Being so badly damaged by the Gramarye case, he will retake the bar exam--as a prosecutor. Then, he will face down Apollo in the courtroom. Why? [[Rule of Cool|BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE EPIC]].
** And he'd never drink more than 17 bottles of [[Frothy Mugs of Water|"grape juice"]] per trial.
== Phoenix prefers noodles to burgers. ==
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== The games are designed to spawn memetic mutation. ==
I hold as evidence that the collective writers here have, on several occasions, slipped into character, or at least used the various catchphrases from the games. This also tends to occur in just about any Ace Attorney-related thread [[Neo Silver Thorn]] has ever read. As such, it leads me to believe that the games are, in fact, an experiment in memetic mutation that Capcom is performing on the gaming community.
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** ''::bows::'' Your honor, the prosecution would like to thank the defense for proving its point.
== Machi smuggled in the cocoon in order to pay for Lamiroir's eye surgery ==
She really means a lot to him, we can see that, and I can't see him wanting the money for himself. Not only that, it's not long after the end of the trial when she decides to get her eyes fixed. (Seemingly on the suggestion of Phoenix, who already pieced it together.)
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[http://img114.imageshack.us/img114/9850/8842cedefe.jpg Namely this one]
Namely Capcom was worried that if it was just Mia Fey and April May like that then people would get the wrong idea of what the game is really like. So Maya was added in to hopefully make things seem more innocuous, but like other examples of censorship whether it actually does do that is of course up to you.
** Why is April May even in that picture? She was an accomplice to Mia's murder and gave testimony in an attempt to get Maya arrested for it.
*** Probably because April is the only other female character in that case and Capcom thought that was a justifiable enough reason.
**** It would have been better if they just had Mia and Maya hugging each other in a sisterly way.
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== Another game will be made, detailing Phoenix's adventures as a non-attorney in the seven-year break. ==
He'll become a bit less of a [[
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He "finds" that it packs more punch. In other words, he learned ''from experience''. Experience ''punching people''.
* Phoenix Wright: Ace Piano: Pokerface and Punching.....I think you are on to something
== The ''[[
Both have their unique blend of wacky antics, improbable situations, and a somewhat lighthearted take on [[Serious Business]] along with all the drama and tragedy. And along with the similar settings... Ted has gotta be related to Winston Payne somehow. He's just gotta be. Perhaps a cousin or a stepsibling or a half-brother or... something. They've got the incompetence, the [[Butt Monkey|Butt Monkeyness]], and they're almost identical. And the ninth season of [[Scrubs]] will be like what Apollo Justice was to Phoenix Wright: New rookies step in while a few characters from the first series reprise their roles and become mentors while the setting remains primarily the same with a few changes.
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His mind-reading is less than developed, but he does have the ability to project thoughts to others. This explains how come his partner ''du jour'' can always read his blue 'thought' text. Not only that, it explains exactly what he does when he presents evidence or profiles. He doesn't show an object or a photograph; instead, he plants an image of the object or person into his target's mind. Since Apollo studied Phoenix's cases and his signature attorney style, he also studied telepathy and learned to project thoughts in the same manner.
* On the other hand, the blue text could just be Phoenix talking to himself, like in an aside or soliloquy in a play. Given the script-like nature of characters' speech, it's not that far of a leap, and his partner's proximity to him would allow him to privately share certain thoughts.
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== The prosecutors do not actually have the authority to cut Gumshoe's pay. ==
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== Godot has some severe, ADHD-type manic ''thing''. ==
The coffee is self-medication. [[This Is Your Premise
== Ema Skye hooked up with Franziska von Karma while studying abroad ==
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== The Judge and Manfred von Karma share a grandchild ==
So, according to Court-Records.net, the Judge has a grandchild, name and gender unknown. According to Game 1, Case 4 we know that vKarma ''also'' has a grandchild. Wouldn't it be fun if the grandchild was teh result of the Judges (potential)Son, and vKarmas other daughter?
== Zak (or Maginifi) got rid of Apollo ==
Think about it. When she comes back to the troupe, she brings her son (Apollo) with her. Both Zak and Magnifi are well-established jerks, so it's not beyond them to seperate Apollo from Thalassa for whatever reasons. It doesn't seem Trucy ever knew him until the 4th game, so it must have happened pretty quickly.
* [
== The Gramayres were originally from Borginia ==
At the very least, Magnifi and Thalassa lived there; Zak and Valant may or may not have come from there as well. When Thalassa/Lamiroir woke up in Borginia without her memory, she didn't magically aquire a new language while forgetting her own. She defaulted back to her first language, which would have been more deeply ingrained in her mind anyway.
== Jeff Angel from [[Hotel Dusk: Room 215]] grew up to become Damon Gant ==
{{spoiler|His real last name is Damon, after all.}} He'd be roughly around the same age as Gant by the time of the Ace Attorney games, has being annoying down to an art form (although his really long pauses could use some work) and really really hates criminals {{spoiler|to the point of forging evidence to get them convicted.}}
== Phoenix or Apollo is the reincarnation of [
How cool would ''that'' be?
== Manfred von Karma was a demon who was stuck on earth. ==
Sort of connected to the "Phoenix Wright is connected to the Buffyverse" at the top.
Manfred von Karma was a demon/demonic being who did something to piss off the ruler of Hell, and as a punishment he is sent to Earth until he learns "failure", at which point he will be dragged back to Hell to serve the kind of punishment only humans receive there. Once on earth, he decides he kind of ''likes'' being evil there, and he decides to become a prosecuter using his connections with various non-human beings to forge evidence, and ''never'' feel failure. However, Gregdeworth manages to mark his record. vKarma is shocked, and nervous about going back to Hell, when he gets shot. It is because of his non-human abilities that he is able to shoot Gredgworth, and not have to go to a doctor about the bullet in his shoulder. Because of his actions, he no longer feels like he failed, pissing off the ruler of Hell/whoever punished him. It is only years later, when he loses to Phoenix Wright that he truley feels failure, and when he dies, he goes to Hell/whatever you want to call it. Franziska, however, being a [[Half
== Manfred von Karma made a deal with the Devil. ==
'''This is a more sensible version of the WMG above.'''
Manfred von Karma made a [[Deal
== Maya will appear in the next game... ==
And it'll be what inspires Phoenix to taking up defending again. As we know, it is almost tradition for the girl to be accused of/related to a murder, and such if she made a return, it would almost be inevitably because of such a thing. Phoenix would have Apollo try and defend her to the best of his ability, all the while trying to get his badge back - we know that such a thing apparently doesn't take too long if its recognised that you have experience, hence why Godot seemed to come out of nowhere. Phoenix will then make an epic [[Big Damn Heroes]] moment with his classic objection, and will take over the case for Apollo.
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== Maya Fey is bulimic. ==
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It can hold statues, spears, cameras on stands, fishing rods, metal detectors, ''dogs'', a parrot, dancing cardboard badgers, jars, CSI equipment, folding screens, monkeys, dead lions, trunks, umbrellas, sacred swords, jockey calendars, cane swords, glass bottles, noodle stands...
The explanation is: Each attorney involved with a case is given a small portal to the case's assigned phantom zone and all evidence they find or need can be conveniently stored or accessed through such medium.
* Also, consider that Ace Attorney Investigatons (the only game in the series that does not involve trials) does not have a Court Record, instead having the pieces of evidence written down. This is obviously because within the game, Edgeworth is not in any actual trials, and thus does not have access to the Court Record.
* Have you ever considered that they just take pictures of the evidence?
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Based on the first three posts in [http://www.pwmusical.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=1248 this] thread.
* Is is [[Squick|surprisingly plausible]]. I think I need to [[Brain Bleach|go lie down]] for a little bit...
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* And here's another something linking Thalassa to Leto, which the poster seems to have missed: Leto is goddess of "being unseen." Who, pray tell, was ''blind'' for a while?
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* In ''Apollo Justice'' Ema didn't actually flunk out of forensic school, she chose to come back to help Kay as a detective.
** That's why she's acting as security at the Gavinners concert, she's really watching for {{spoiler|evidence of the cocoon smuggling ring}}.
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*** I vote for Ron DeLite being the third, personally. (You can't tell me he isn't pretty enough or girly enough! Not without lying.)
* Personally, I always thought it would be Kay, Maya and Trucy. The three sidekicks from each each arc, coming together as one. Kay would provide Little Thief, Maya would provide spiritual aid, and Trucy would provide her magical prowess.
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== Quercus Alba is related to [[Final Fantasy V|ExDeath]]. ==
He is clearly a human-shaped tree.
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== The main character of the next game will be The Judge, with a bailiff as his partner. ==
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== The judge will be a defendant soon enough. ==
Think about it; everyone eventually returns either as a defendant or as a corpse. Eventually, the judge (whose name will likely never show up) will be picked for one of them, and seeing as EVERY trial needs a judge, they can't afford to kill him off.
* The Judge can't be a defendant and a judge at the same time either, so in either scenario [[Canada, Eh?|his brother]] will have to come to reside over the court proceedings. Cue dramatic flashbacks and insight into both judge's characters, and an enormous plot twist when it's revealed that {{spoiler|the bailiff did it}}.
** {{spoiler|Meekins? Seriously?}}
*** {{spoiler|It's an accident, he kills someone with his crazy arm waving and the Judge taking pity tries to cover for him. Of course it turns out it's all a set up by some diabolical mastermind.}}
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== The "Little Thief" system shown in '''Ace Attorney Investigates''' is a precursor to the MASON System in '''Apollo Justice''' ==
'''First off''', when we first see the "Little Thief" system, we know it's before Apollo Justice for several reasons, one of which being that the Gavinners are the group playing on the stage in the kidnapping case.
So, what's to say that, during the break between AAI and AJ Edgeworth doesn't manage to get his hand on a version of "Little Thief". Somehow it gets to Phoenix, and Phoenix creates a virtual "time machine" that is the MASON System. That's why you may have to find something in the "future" before you can present it in the "past"- because you're not actually going between the two time periods in a logical, orderly manner!
* Also, it seems highly unlikely that Phoenix became a master programer before AJ. Alternatively, Kay could helped program the MASON system. Phoenix asks Miles for help with the jury system being reinstated and Miles contacts Kay to see if she could help with this project.
** ''Grins'', yeah, though with all the other stuff [[Badass|Phoe]][[Chessmaster|nix]] gets into doing... Of course, that could (sort of)
== The Gramaryes would eventually become the [[Nineteen Eighty
In the Orwellian world, the Gramaryes would be the perfect candidates for identifying any subconscious twitch or contraction that could give away a person's thoughts... the inner party would have a field day with these guys.
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== Kay will next show up in her own Investigations style game ==
Where she as Edgeworth's successor(and maybe part of the new Yatagarasu on the side) takes Edgeworth's investigative role and goes to trial unlike ''Edgeworth Investigates''. Having to deal with a competitive and lecherous Klavier, a older and even more bumbling OVER PROMOTED Chief Gumshoe, a surly and bitter Ema (who '''doesn't''' like that Kay actually managed to reach her dream) and goes up against Apollo and others such as older more disgusting Grossman. One case will be against a newly reinstated Phoenix defending Maya, which will be unwinnable, because Phoenix as his new [[The Chessmaster|Chessmastery]] self will the universe's resident [[The Ace|Ace]].
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== Shi-Long Lang really is a werewolf. ==
He doesn't make much of an effort to hide it. This is because werewolves are in fact commonplace in the AA verse - that Phoenix and Apollo do not meet any in-game is mere coincidence.
== Shi-Long Lang is actually [[Star Fox (
Wolf flew a little too far towards the edge of the universe and ended up in Zheng Fa. The only way he can get back to the Lylat system is to take down the Interpol agents whom hold the secret to universe-to-universe hopping.
== Kristoph Gavin defended {{spoiler|Quercus Alba}} ==
{{spoiler|Alba}} would want the best lawyer around to take his case, but seeing as Edgeworth handled the investigation Phoenix and his known associates would refuse the case as they would conclude that he's guilty. Who amongst defense attorneys at the time is both known to be exceedingly skilled and [[Amoral Attorney|amoral]] enough to want to defend him? Not to mention, despite {{spoiler|losing his ambassadorship}}, {{spoiler|Alba probably still has a lot of fame and wealth}}; a client of that nature would match Kristoph's M.O. to a T. Oh, and it even adds another layer to his {{spoiler|[[Disproportionate Retribution]]}}; we know from a credits sequence in ''Investigations'' that {{spoiler|Alba}} was found guilty, which would mean that Gavin lost to Edgeworth in court: {{spoiler|"Not only did I lose Zak's case to this second-rate defense attorney, he's even a known associate of that prosecutor I lost to last month! HE MUST PAY!"}}
* ...This is awesome.
* This is now my [[headcanon]].
== Closed eyes are an almost sure sign on evil. ==
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I haven't seen all of the cases yet (I'm still working my way through the second game) but the only other people I see who can make a claim to this are Larry Butz and Lotta Hart, and they both are selfish [[Butt Monkey|butt monkeys]] who keep on getting in your way. Maybe they're just less evil.
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* Kinda justified, because by the last case of the most recent game people are bound to pick up on something like that subconsciously, and I can't be the only one who thought that the game was trying to make me hate Palaeno.
== Calisto Yew is Kay's mother ==
I have no proof for this other than {{spoiler|this would be another [[Lost|Faraday]] threatened by their mother}}.
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** Byrne and Tyrell only met Calisto after the KG-9 incident, Tyrell says that she knew Kay sice she was born, there was no reason at all for Byrne or anybody to hide that Calisto was his wife or Kay's mother and finally {{spoiler|Kay obviously knows who her mother was, seeing as she went to live with her relatives after his father's death, and nobody really knew Calisto all that well seeing as nobody figured that she wasn't Cece's sister until much later}}, there is just no way she could be her mother.
== ''Ghost Trick'' will take place in the ''Ace Attorney'' universe ==
The game will be made by the same company and even the same designer, after all. And it is about the afterlife. I see no reason why Capcom can't have the games share the same universe, just like Valve did with ''[[Half-Life (
* [[Word of God]] confirmed.
== Daryan Crescend is a member of [[The Syndicate|the smuggling ring]] from ''Investigations'' ==
It's been a while since I played ''Apollo Justice'' so please bear with me, but I don't think we ever got to know his motive for smuggling the cocoon out of Borginia other than that "he was a greedy [[Jerkass]]" (I'd like to think that Machi's motive for helping him was because of Lamiroir, though). This would explain a lot, especially since the ending for AAI implies that the ring is still alive, except with a new leader.
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== Snackoo is a euphemism ==
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== Diego's love for Mia was unrequited. ==
* Mia never refers to him as her boyfriend, and doesn't make any particular effort to speak to him when they meet again.
* Diego, despite his obvious feelings for her, never refers to her as his girlfriend.
* Grossberg refers to Diego as Mia's boyfriend, but she doesn't acknowledge it. He may have known about Diego's feelings for her and just assumed.
* Mia was extremely shaken by the events of 3-4, but that could have had just as much to do with {{spoiler|seeing her first client kill himself in front of her}} as anything.
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** No, I believe it's confirmed at some point. [http://aceattorney.wikia.com/wiki/Mia The wiki], at least, says it's true.
== This game and the [[Trauma Center (
It makes far too much sense for it not to be true.
* I have been thinking the same thing for quite a while now. The two series do have a lot of similarities.
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** Percieve/Healing Touch, for one. The over the top [[Serious Business]] in both professions, for another. Plus, they both have a touch of Magic Realism (Percieve, Healing Touch, GUILT (admit it, it's clearly a MAGIC DISEASE), Channeling...)
** Operation=Trial, Angie=Maya, Prosecutor's Office=Delphi, GUILT=forged evidence, Hands Of Asclepius=von Karmas, Press=Scalpel, Present=Forceps, Advance Text=Antibiotic Gel...
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== Wearing an attorney's badge gives the user limitted time control capabilities. ==
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== Quercus Alba is related to [[Castlevania: Order of Ecclesia|Barlowe]] ==
While it doesn't show in their portraits, one look at Barlowe's sprite will tell all. Plus, they're both old guys with {{spoiler|more sinister goals than we initially think.}}
== Edgeworth is becoming the Ace Attorney equivalent to [[Sherlock Holmes]] ==
He's got the detective skills, extensive knowledge in many fields, and has learned the benefits of keeping a [[The Watson|Watson]] around the place. He may quit being a prosecutor to help the helpless, or do some investigating on the side with Gumshoe in tow.
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* Besides, this troper thinks Phoenix would make a better Watson.
* Personally, I think it's more like [[Detective Conan
== The games are a [[Take That]] at the culture around the Japanese judicial system ==
After reading [https://web.archive.org/web/20100514153937/http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/issues/issue_253/7530-Phoenix-Wrights-Objection this] I can't help but wonder.
== The Judge is [[Immortality|immortal]]. ==
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== Maggey Byrde is related to Glen Elg ==
It's not often you find two characters in this fandom that share the same traits such as bad luck, [[In the Blood|unless....]] But seriously. Maggey fell from several floors of her apartment building and ''survived.'' At the time, I bet her parents didn't chalk it up as the start of her natural disasters of luck, but as one parent neglecting her. This keeps happening over and over in different ways and boom! They're fighting like crazy and eventually divorce and one parent takes Maggey and the other remarries and has Glen, who also has it in his genetic coding to be cursed with bad luck.
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== Quercus Alba wasn't speaking in gaming terms metaphorically ==
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* As mentioned, this would also explain how Phoenix, Edgeworth and all of the other attorneys are able to carry their evidence around, especially the Noodle Stand (which can be fully viewed in 3D, thus not being just a picture Apollo brought to court) and the bear from 2-4. Also explains Klavier's air guitar sound; it's just coming from a stereo in said [[Hammerspace]], as much as it explains how Gumshoe stores all of that confetti.
== There is ''some'' kind of relation between Phoenix and Kyon from the [[
During his time as a lawyer, Phoenix is basically Kyon with more facial expressions, right down to the sarcastic remarks in his thoughts, the [[Willing Suspension of Disbelief]] failure when Mia is first channeled, the heroic "She's annoying me to death, but I still love her as a friend" moment and the fact that everybody and their mothers seemd to be able to read his thoughts for some reason. Also, Kyon implies that he, surprisingly, actually used to be rather naive and childish just a few years ago... does that remind you on a certain cold-killer X taking law-student?
Conclusion: Kyon too will end up as a Hobo in a few years, he just needs some traumatic experience to make him snap.
== Phoenix Wright is responsible for every single one of Winston Payne's failures ==
When Phoenix isn't involved in the case, he actually does quite well. Note that every single case we see him fail involves Phoenix, even when Phoenix is not the main character. We see him win the trail against Maggey Byrde, and he would have won the trial against Luke Atmey if Phoenix had not intervened.
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* Well, he was known as the Rookie Killer. How could that name have come about if he wasn't a good prosecutor? Phoenix just throws him off of his groove.
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Phoenix had been planning to set up the jury system for a long time and had to keep his friends uninvolved, since he wanted them to be the jury for the first trial using this system. It's also for this reason that Phoenix refrained from introducing or mentioning them to Apollo. If he just lost one wrong word to them, they'd automatically disqualified for being too involved in the case. Ema, however, still disqualified in the end, because she donated the camera to him, so he replaced her with Thalassa. The other five jurists are Edgeworth, Maya, Pearl, Maggey and Iris. (Not Gumshoe, since he was involved in the trial which started the whole mess).
* Pearl is too young to be a jurist. You're not legally an adult in Japan until 20 and Pearl would be only 16 at the time of Turnabout Succession. Repalce her with Larry Butz.
* Only lays can be jurors, which means that it couldn't have been Edgeworth. Perhaps Lotta?
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[[Frothy Mugs of Water|Grape and tomato juice is served in wine bottles complete with wine glasses. There is a bar full of grape juice in the second case of AceAttorneyInvestigations.]] Oh, and that large glass {{spoiler|Matt Engarde}} is swishing around? Apple juice.
** Or perhaps that last one really is alcohol and he just doesn't care.
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== The MASON system is... ==
A mix of science (Little Thief) and what for all intents and purposes we're going to call "magic" (Kurain-style channeling). When you "travel" back in time, you're really viewing a channeling of a person's past self being channeled through a type of Little Thief System.
== Akbey Hicks is Machi Tobaye's father ==
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== Becoming a defense attorney or prosecutor is as simple as applying to McDonalds. ==
I mean, come on. Well-known Defense Attorney Diego Armando {{spoiler|wakes up from a five-year coma and immediately becomes a prosecutor}}. Calisto Yew, {{spoiler|as an ''identity'', didn't exist until the case of Cece Yew and goes right to being a defense attorney.}} Nobody bats an eyelash at either of these. On top of this, Klavier Gavin could not ''possibly'' have had enough time to study law ''and'' become a super-popular rock star at age 17.
* So Franziska trained in Germany for years to become a perfect prosecutor, and when she applied, she realized that all she needed was a badge/name tag and a smile (though she probably let her whip do the smiling)?
The law books are just fluff and the reason Phoenix has so much trouble with them is because he learned everything via word-of-mouth from Mia.
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* He was originally Billy Bob Johns, the most pathetic magician ever. He tried to join Troupe Gramarye in order to improve and become the world's greatest magician. He got too cocky and tried an escape act that seriously injured him, ashamed to see his wife and son ever again he honed his magic to become a stage-magician under a new name, but became a [[Jerkass]] to hide the grief of his wife's death and losing track of his son.
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== Franziska Von Karma will be the protagonist of the next investigations. ==
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** Sal Manella, who is presently writing his first series.
== Ron DeLite is an alternate-universe [[Baccano
He just traded in his [[Fail O'Suckyname|retarded name]] for retarded hair.
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== De Killer's role in [[AAI 2]] theory ==
After finding a successor and training them, it's time for their first job. Of course, Shelly would come along to supervise in case something went wrong. Probably why he's wearing his emblem so openly; to draw away attention from the real assassin and just freak us all the fuck out. Speaking of new assassins, I bet it's a girl... alias? Jane Doe.
* Or possibly he's hired to assassinate the case's victim but is beaten to the punch by the real killer, and part of the over-arching story covers trying to discover the client.
** Well, that's just as - if not more of an interesting thought. *scratches chin* Okay, so... If that's the case, then maybe Edgeworth will team-up with de Killer at one point to catch the real killer, [[Let's Make a Deal|but only if he doesn't arrest him?]]
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== Edgeworth uses Axe Body Spray ==
It would certainly explain his massive popularity with the ladies....
* More like [[The Man Your Man Could Smell Like
== The Phoenix Wright games take place in the far distant future/past of the Wheel of Time-verse ==
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The reason only women in the Kurain Tradition can hold spiritual powers is that it's a hold over from the White Tower and the only weave properly remembered by the Kurain Tradition is a special secret weave that temporarily allows spirits bound to the wheel to be drawn into the real world again so long as they have a willing host body to inhabit. Explaining how events like 3-5 can occur
Phoenix is a reincarnation of Rand al'Thor. He has an almost suicidally stupid belief in the basic goodness of the female half of the human species (Compare Lanfear and Dahlia anyone?) His mentor sacrifices herself to protect him from a villain he later takes down (Mia/Moraine). He has one princess like love interest who is also, as or more powerful than his mentor was in spiritual power (Maya/Elayne) Pearls has been shown to be quite violent in her quest to keep 'Mystic Maya and Mr. Nick' together though lets be honest, who doubts that as soon as Pearl hits puberty her long cherished hero worship of Nick won't turn into a full blown crush even as she batters Nick into who she thinks he should be with regardless of her feelings just like Aviendha. Which would leave Iris to be an incarnation of Min, a more simple down to earth girl with little to no special powers but a strong love connection to her man who just wants her beloved to be happy no matter the cost.
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** Dick Gumshoe: Ace Detective. It just has to be done.
== Marvin Grossberg is a [[Crouching Moron, Hidden Badass]]. ==
Some time down the series, we will witness him taking a defense case, and he will wipe the floor with the prosecution.
* Well, he was mentor to such awesome people as Mia Fey and Diego Armando after all!
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* So her kidnapping in game 2 (she was starved) must have been absolute ''hell'' since she was channeling Mia several times...Damn. You. Matt. Engarde.
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== Colias Palaeno in Ace Attorney Investigations was in on the smuggling ring. ==
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* That's why we have Spirit Mediums, though. {{spoiler|Don't forget, the killer has been dead before, too.}}
== Edgeworth is a [[In Nomine
For four years straight he managed to utterly convince courts that his side was correct, no matter what side that actually was, until such time as he ran into a certain someone who could counteract his Resonance and ultimately put him through redemption -- after which he not only becomes a champion of truth, but ''loses [[Life Meter]] for coming to untrue conclusions''.
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Japan must have avoided the policy of sakoku in exchange for a policy of colonization during the Edo period. This gives plenty of time for the cultural roots to have been laid down. Eventually they probably gave up their territory (or lost it in war) to the expanding U.S. and the descendants of settlers just decided to stick around and intermarry. But they kept borrowing things from their original home, such as tokusatsu, ramen stands, etc.
* So, in a sense... ''[[
== Earth has undergone an environmental disaster ==
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== The mysterious voice in the Gyakuten Kenji 2 demo, who calls Edgeworth by his first name is either Gregory Edgeworth (channeled by a medium) or Phoenix Wright. ==
Nobody else would have a reason to call him "Reiji/Miles". Also, it would for both of them make sense to ask Edgeworth {{spoiler|if he is sure that he wants to stay a Prosecutor, or if he'd rather return to his "old" dream and become a Defense Attorney after all.}} For Gregory, the reason why he would ask his son this is obvious. And for Phoenix, it would make sense as well, seeing how {{spoiler|Edgeworth himself asked Phoenix a rather simmilar question a year prior, making it a Meaningful Echo.}} Of course, the voice could also be Mikagami Hakari, A.K.A. [[Fan Nickname|"Judgette"]], but one has to wonder why this hyper-formal woman would call him by his first name.
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== The reason why Edgeworth doesn't care about the law and only wishes to find the truth is because he hears of Wright's disbarment. ==
Because by finding out about Wright's disbarment, he would acknowledge that the law itself was imperfect and that only the truth is absolute. Of course, this troperette has no idea when [[GK 2]] takes place, so this could just be Edgey's take on things.
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Just an idea- when Phoenix or Edgeworth exposes a hole in her theory, she'll draw back as if expecting them to hit her.
* It's a nice theory, but '''everyone''' does that, while Edgeworth has the same possible reason, no one else does.
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== Edgeworth dies at the end of his Investigations series ==
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* Or, he could just be abroad. Or he's being [[The Chessmaster]].
== Franziska is an [[Opposite
No mention of a wife, a clone being a prefect fit for Mr. Perfect / ability to "pick and choose" instead of blind chance of the uh, normal way fitting.
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== Doug Swallow didn't really die ==
Instead he was merely shocked unconscious. He decided that his current life had sucked so he pretended that he really was dead. He bribed some doctors into making a fake autopsy report. His decision for his new life, was to become a movie star by the name of Matt Engarde. The two look very similar to each other and even wear similar clothes. The reason Phoenix doesn't recognize him is the same reason he doesn't recognize Marvin Grossberg.
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== Talented Spirit Medium automatically gain [[Ghost Trick:
Remember: When Maya first channeled Mia, she had told Phoenix beforehand that she wouldn't be able to do it, since she is still in training. However, suddenly, Mia was channeled and tried to justify it to Phoenix by saying "Remember that I am of Fey Blood too.", hinting that the spiritual powers remain even after death and make it easier for her to take control of Maya's body, despite her being a little unskilled. Following this line of logic, Fey Women don't need {{spoiler|the Temsik radiation}}, their own supernatural energy is enough to give them Ghost Tricks upon death. This explains how Phoenix keeps hearing Mia's voice: Her Ghost Tricks are limited Ghost-to-Human telepathy and significantly boosting a living Medium's powers.
* Alternatively: Magatamas are crafted from fragments of the Temsik meteor, which would guarantee that a medium would die within range of the radiation, and get tricks upon death... Provided that that medium was still wearing her magatama, of course... (Or, in Phoenix's case, hadn't gotten it stolen/lent it to anyone)
** Doesn't make sense, as Magatama have different colors are are traditionally made of jewels native to Japan. (Yes, Magatama ARE real beads, not something the series made up) Also, the greater Magatama is persumably very, very old... It sure goes back longer than the metorite shower in temsik park.
== Wright & Co. Law offices has a tagline focusing on "the truth" ==
None of the clients who choose Phoenix on their own are actually guilty, and the one time he ''did'' have a guilty client, Nick was the one offering his services. {{spoiler|Matt}} obviously wouldn't know or care about an emphasis on the truth, and de Killer wouldn't care, since {{spoiler|blackmail}} has a way of getting people to see things your way. If there was a reference to finding the truth in an ad, then guilty clients wouldn't be as likely to go to that law firm, but innocent ones would. It would also explain the apparent lack of popularity and... unique clientele.
* [[Eureka Moment|Everything makes sense now.]]
* I always thought it might be "We help the hopeless."
== The poster of the movie that made Mia cry in the office is of [[Toy Story (franchise)||Toy Story 3]] ==
Considering the fact that the series takes place in the future-ish (actually, we're inching up on the date now), this is entirely plausible. And awesome. Maya likes Steel Samurai, why can't Mia be a Toy Story fan? Of course, this would also imply that Phoenix ''hasn't'' seen Toy Story 3, [[Tear Jerker|which is just sad in and of itself]].
== The localized version of the series takes place in a fictional city in California known as Hope Springs ==
Read the explanation [https://web.archive.org/web/20130927204831/http://z11.invisionfree.com/court_records/index.php?showtopic=3942 here]. I didn't come up with the theory, but it sounds damn plausible (moreso than Los Angeles) and it's now in my head-canon.
== There will be a defendant named Bill Stickers ==
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== Winston Payne lost his hair due to poisoning, not merely psychological factors. ==
The script even hints at it--just before Payne loses his hair, the following exchange takes place:
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At this point, the background fades to white. This Troper imagined him timidly picking up a pill and licking it. Next thing we see, Payne's hair comes flying out. ''Physical proof'' that Dahlia Hawthorne was untrustworthy! Small wonder Payne was so shocked by the experience.
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* For two reasons: one, ''even more crossover WMG''. And two, because "multidimensional programming theory" is both the best possible computer-related specialty and ''almost'' allows the apparent time travel shenanigans to make sense. Kind of.
** This can be easily combined with the preceding theory about it being a descendant of the Little Thief system.
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== The characters actually know that they are not real but characters in a game. ==
Think about it, it all makes sense. At one point Maya says that Phoenix's face reminds her of a video game character. This makes phoenix say this rather tell-tale line:
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Both have a strange need for perfection. The teacher abuses Courage when he is imperfect and it's implied that Manfred did the same to Franziska and Edgeworth. Both have a [[Villainous Breakdown]]. And both are the villain of their respectful episodes.
== Phoenix Wright has the [[Steins
That Explains how you're in Phoenix's shoes... with items you WERENT supposed to have, bringing them back and forth between times.
== Manfred von Karma did give a damn about Edgeworth. ==
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* I doubt it. A remark in Turnabout Reminiscence:
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Mundane WMG, but it is a bit difficult to believe that a man that savvy would honestly not realise that "Prosecutor Miles Edgeworth chooses death" would be read as a suicide note, and he had no real reason to fake his death. It seems much more likely that he, in a very bad state, decided to settle things for good, left his note, went and stood on a bridge or something... and had an epiphany, realised what he was doing was stupid, immature, and not going to solve anything, and got back down again. He couldn't go back, because his note might well have already be found and that would be a horrible thing to try to explain, and he needed to put himself back together anyway, so he left for Europe. It's this troper's firm [[headcanon]].
== Gumshoe is suffering from malnutrition. ==
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== The Judge is behind EVERYTHING. ==
After all, he's the ONLY absolute constant in EVERY trial. Every single trial has the Judge, whose name is never revealed, presiding. Everyone pays him the utmost respect, and thus he is never suspected
of his crimes. The biggest evidence for this? In Rise from Ashes, it is the Judge who gets the [[Big No]] when everything is figured out. In every crime, the Judge either manipulates the evidence to lead it to someone else or manipulates whoever is found guilty into doing it for him.
* The judge isn't present in EVERY trial. What about his brother (the one with the yellow beard)?
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== The series takes place millions of years [[After the End]]. ==
Millions of years is plenty of time for something big enough to warrant another calender change, thus why it is still the early 2000s. It also explains why cell phones are still like the ones in the 90s and why Kurain has existed for generations and it still doesn't exist in [[Real Life]].
== Redd White knew about the SL-9 case from 1-5. ==
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It's a lesser version of Unrelenting Force, which is why it knocks the targets back slightly.
== This page will soon fill with [[
Just wait. It'll happen.
* Confirmed
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== The President of a major country will get taken down at some point. ==
We've already taken down a prosecutor with 40 years of experience under his belt, the Chief of Police, and a FREAKING AMBASSADOR. The leader himself is the next logical step.
* {{spoiler|[[I Knew It!|Confirmed]] in Investigations 2. Sort of.}}
== The Phoenix trilogy is actually just Phoenix telling his story as he remembers it to Trucy and possibly Apollo. ==
Think about it. Have you noticed that in cases such as the end of 'The First Turnabout' and 'The Stolen Turnabout' Phoenix is talking in ''past tense''? It's possible he's recollecting the old times back when he was a lawyer, in his brightest days.
== Phoenix's guts are shredded to hell. ==
Remember how he kept cleaning the toilet in Ace Attorney: Trials and Tribulations? That was also the same game where it was shown (retconned?) that he had swallowed broken glass that was possibly coated in weakened poison {{spoiler|which nearly killed Godot and seriously messed up his entire body when taken in its unweakened state}} before he became a lawyer. Combined with all the stress he's constantly under, we can only be thankful that Mia didn't teach him the Marvin Grossberg Method of Public Speaking.
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