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Previous page history was archived for backup purposes at User talk:Robkelk/LQT Archive 1 on 2016-05-31.

Portuguese Name-Mover vandal is back

Funbreaker (talkcontribs)

He's under "César tem fimose". Reverted "O maior viado da wiki" back to TBeholder

Looney Toons (talkcontribs)

I just blocked the account indefinitely. And apparently that was the only change he made this time around.

Robkelk (talkcontribs)


Reply to "Portuguese Name-Mover vandal is back"
Looney Toons (talkcontribs)

He/she/it doesn't seem to have noticed (or cared about) your message on their talk page, and is continuing to upload files without adding licenses.

Robkelk (talkcontribs)

Thanks. Krendall just got a one-day "attention grabber" vacation.

Reply to "Krendall"
Looney Toons (talkcontribs)

Say, Rob, the edits you've been making to subpages for a while, where you've been adding

:<small>Back to ''[[{{ROOTPAGENAME}}]]''</small>

Have you made this change to all the templates as well yet?

Robkelk (talkcontribs)

Not yet, but I should. Unless somebody else gets to them first. :)

Robkelk (talkcontribs)

Okay, they're done.

I also added the NOTOC tag to the WMG pages by default, the "ATT Templates" category to all of the templates, and a custom "go back" message to the Haiku templates.

Looney Toons (talkcontribs)

Cool. Beat me to it. <grin>

Something for the future -- I've noticed that the wrong template comes up for one or two of the "create new page" dropdown menu entries. I can't remember which ones right now, but it's stuff like getting the work version of a subpage when you're doing one for a trope. We need to track those down and fix them.

Reply to "Subpage footer markup"

Please inform GethN7 that I just sent a message to him.

Ecclytennysmithylove (talkcontribs)

Because I'm in a very sad mood and I'm waiting for his reply.

Looney Toons (talkcontribs)

ETSL, we seem to be having some kind of problem with the alert and notice features of the wiki; we'll try to reach him off the wiki to let him know.

Ecclytennysmithylove (talkcontribs)

By the way, I forgot to mention that I accidentally sent him the public message when it was supposed to be a private message. So I sent the same message again to him this time in private. I don't mind if he replies to one of the two same messages.

Reply to "Please inform GethN7 that I just sent a message to him."
Funbreaker (talkcontribs)

Howdy, I noticed in the recent changes that my userpage somehow got put under "User:Retardado". What's up with that, and how did that happen in the first place?

Robkelk (talkcontribs)

Somebody did a malicious move of your User page. I moved it back and tempbanned the user who did it - but it looks like the user came back with a different account and moved your User page again. The hosts of our wiki banned the second account before I could.

I'm going to put your User page back, and set it so it can't be moved except by an administrator.

Reply to "User name redirect"
2hadow (talkcontribs)

Hi there! I'm 2hadow. I'm interested in anti-vandalism work.

Robkelk (talkcontribs)
2hadow (talkcontribs)

Somebody has been vandalizng my user page!

Robkelk (talkcontribs)

That's block-worthy. We only have two rules here, and one of them is "play nice".

The IP address has been blocked for a week.

2hadow (talkcontribs)

What can I do to help?

Robkelk (talkcontribs)

Right now, you can keep your eyes open for things like what just happened to your talk User page, and let us know if anything similar happens

If any of the other admins know of anything else you can do, I'm sure they'll post here.

2hadow (talkcontribs)

Thanks, but it was my user page that was vandalized, not my talk page. a

2hadow (talkcontribs)

I can help out with fixing grammar, adding refs, expand articles, welcome users, revert any spam, patrol the wiki.

Robkelk (talkcontribs)

Right - I've fixed that.

Looney Toons has been devoting what might be too much time to fixing the grammar of a particular contributor; I'm sure he'd appreciate the help. I expect Looney Toons will be online tomorrow and can provide details then.

2hadow (talkcontribs)

Okay. Tell him to post me a message on my talk page for me to find out on what he needs help with.

Reply to "Hello"
GethN7 (talkcontribs)
The Barnstar of Diligence
For pledging to fulfill much needed maintenance and cleanup tasks on the wiki and for such a fine start to that end, I award this barnstar to honor your efforts. Geth N7 - 20:47, 30 June 2014 (BST)
Robkelk (talkcontribs)

Thank you! You might notice a few more Category and Laconic pages on the wiki already...

2hadow (talkcontribs)


Reply to "A barnstar for you!"
Experiment2853 (talkcontribs)

Dear Robkelk, hello, this one of your sites new users. Not necessarily to TV Tropes, but to this specific website. I am writing this message in regards to you recently re-adding a few things I deleted off the Pokegirls page, specifically the re-adding of Guilty Pleasure and the question asked at the end of Rape Is Love.

I would like to first off state that my full deleting of Guilty Pleasure was partly out of a misunderstanding of what was written on the Guilty Pleasure page, as it stated no Real Life Examples and that if a person started writing it in a way that sounded like that individual troper was stating it was a Guilty Pleasure to them, then it should be removed and potentially taken to a forum discussion page. I had also gotten some rules for the original TV Tropes and All Tropes Wiki mixed up as the former has changed it to being a "Only If A Character Uses It In-Story" trope. While I will readily admit that my reason for removing the Guilty Pleasure section completely was wrong, I do not agree with it being re-added to the front page with it still sounding like an individual troper giving reasons why they specifically find Pokegirls to be a Guilty Pleasure and I would like to ask for permission to take it to the YMMV page and change the sentence to better fit the general opinion of the fandom, as from my experience most community members of Pokegirls have admitted they enjoy the series regardless of it's ethically questionable elements.

I am a little bit more confused as to why the that one sentence from Rape Is Love ("Heh, so Rape Is Survival? What if someone uses an argument like that on a real life court?") was put back in. It's written like the start to a forum discussion page or a question being asked on an already existing forum discussion page. It does not explain the usage of the trope in regards to Pokégirls and looks like it may start a discussion on a the main page if someone decides to respond. I do understand that things are looser on the All The Tropes Wiki, I am just a little confused as to how exactly this question is relevant to the main page trope Rape Is Love in such a way that it deserves to stay.

I agree that I put forth listening to rules I either misunderstood or misapplied. I'm not here to pick a fight or start up a kerfuffle of any kind. I'm not here to remove any fun elements in the page and I agree that there is more than one way to write one. If you decide that my reasoning is unsound, then I will not make any attempt to remove or change these things from the main page, nor will I press this issue any further. I understand that you are a busy moderator and would prefer to not take up any more of your time than is necessary.

Signed, Experiment2853

Reply to "The Recent Pokegirl edits"
RRabbit43 (talkcontribs)

Can you provide me with auto-protection?

DocColress (talkcontribs)

Why would you ask that, might I ask?

Robkelk (talkcontribs)

It doesn't matter.

First, All The Tropes does not have an "auto-protection" capability.

Second, everyone who contributes to this wiki, from the longest-standing bureaucrat/administrators to the newest members, agrees that their contributions can be "edited mercilessly and redistributed at will" - we remind people of that in the text under every page edit box.

So... no, I can't provide anyone (including myself) with auto-protection.

Reply to "Request"
Summary by Robkelk

Somebody wanted to change a User page that didn't belong to him. Denied.

Davey2010 (talkcontribs)

At the top of the page, can you remove the |en|en-5|fr-0, put a slash at the back of the word "babel", and do the same to UserWiki:Robkelk, but this time add the word "User:Robkelk" at the back of the slash? Thanks/Merci.

Robkelk (talkcontribs)

All material on my User page is there for a reason.

Why are you editing my User page without my permission, and without consulting me first? You have not gone through even the lax change management process we have here on ATT (i.e., asking first), so I have no idea what you are trying to do here.

Davey2010 (talkcontribs)
I want you to replace {{babel|en|en-5|fr-0}} with {{/babel}}. Thanks/Merci!
Robkelk (talkcontribs)

No. There is no template named "/babel" on All The Tropes, so doing what you request would break my User page.

I ask you a second time (I will not ask a third time): Why are you editing my User page without my permission, and without consulting me first? This edit that you want made appears to me to be page vandalism.

EDIT: And I see that you have created a page in my User space without my permission. I am deleting that page immediately.

RE_EDIT: And it has been brought to my attention that you edited UserWiki:Robkelk without my permission or knowledge, as well. Official Moderator Warning: STOP EDITING USER PAGES THAT DO NOT BELONG TO YOU.

Davey2010 (talkcontribs)
OK, I will stop editing pages that don't belong to me.
OK, je vais arrêter de modifier les pages qui ne m'appartiennent pas.
De acuerdo, dejaré de editar páginas que no me pertenecen.
OK, deixarei de editar páginas que não pertencem a mim.