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* [[Broken Aesop]]: An example relating to degree of openness. Cases {{spoiler|2-4}} and {{spoiler|3-5}} are all about bringing The Truth to light, especially when Edgeworth is involved. The issue is that the view of ''when'' the truth should be brought to light expressed through the events of the game is a nuanced one, while the view expressed through the dialogue is an absolute one. Edgeworth's dialogue after his [[Heel Face Turn]] could be summarized as "expose the truth, no matter how painful." Yet there are situations in which players are supposed to hate someone for exposing the truth.

*** In [[Ace Attorney Investigations]], it is clear that the Yatagarasu's tendency to "steal evidence of corrupt dealings of all kinds" and send it to the press is illegal and that Edgeworth would like to be above such actions, but the Yatagarasu's actions in this regard are hardly portrayed as evil. The Yatagarasu was just "stealing the Truth" in order to bring it to light.

*** At one point, Edgeworth threatens to publicize a witness' embarrassing psychological diagnosis unless that witness testifies truthfully. He says that it's not his problem if the witness chooses to commit suicide in response to the psychological profile being publicized.

** A case could be made that revealing the truth really was good in the situations where it was portrayed as good and bad in the situations in which it was portrayed as bad, but the dialogue describes bringing The Truth to light as though it is a golden ideal that is always good - as long as the person doing it is a good guy, and the person whose truth got exposed only considers committing suicide rather than actually doing so.

* [[Ensemble Darkhorse]]: Of the main characters, Miles Edgeworth, [[Popularity Power|to the point that he got his own game]]. Of the side characters/witnesses, Adrian Andrews.

** Don't forget Gumshoe, pal!

** EMA SKYE! Seriously, she could have easily been a [[Replacement Scrappy]], but is instead one of the most loved characters of the series. Not only that, she replaced fan favourite Maya for a case and Gumshoe for an entire freakin' game, and was popular enough to be the original protagonist of what eventually became Investigations.

** How about Shelly deKiller?

* [[Ho Yay]]: Phoenix Wright and [[The Rival]] Miles Edgeworth certainly have some rather... intense... feelings about each other. On the flip side, there's Mia and Lana's "intellectual attraction" and the various weirdness surrounding Adrian Andrews and {{spoiler|her co-dependency}}. The fourth game seems to toy with this more than most with Apollo and Klavier. For example, upon meeting Apollo, Klavier says, "I must say I'm used to being inspected by the ladies... But this is the first time I've felt this way with a man." Capcom is definitely aware of the implications, and [[Ship Tease|love]] to be as vague about it as possible.

** Also, some of the concept art for ''Investigations'', especially the one of Edgeworth and Gumshoe [[Together Umbrella|sharing an umbrella]].

** Edgeworth and Shi-Long Lang on ''Investigations''. The later have a penchant on calling Edgeworth a pretty boy and getting on his personal space since the beginning, not to mention the banter between the two have certain... [[Unresolved Sexual Tension|tension.]]

** Mia Fey has a posthumous version of a Les Yay with Lana Skye as they had an 'intellectual attraction' to each other. [[Experimented in College|While they went to college together]]. [[Shipping Goggles|Suuuuuuure.]]

* [[Magnificent Bastard]]: {{spoiler|Manfred von Karma and Damon Gant}} in the first game, {{spoiler|Matt Engarde}} in the second game, {{spoiler|Dahlia Hawthorne}} in the third, {{spoiler|Kristoph Gavin}} in the fourth and {{spoiler|Quercus Alba}} in ''Investigations''. In short, ''all the [[Big Bad|big bads]] from each game!''

* [[Memetic Badass]]: Klavier Gavin, Godot, Edgeworth, and Detective Badd.

** The explosion that comes with your [[Life Meter]] going down.

* [[Nightmare Fuel]]: ''Investigations'' may have finally succeeded in communicating the Badger's creepiness to the audience. Then {{spoiler|it sneaks up on Edgeworth with a sword in a haunted house and Jesus Christ that thing is made of nightmares}}.

* [[The Scrappy]]: Marvin Grossberg, in the third game. Not so bad in the first, but in the third, he just '''will not shut up''' about his [[Too Much Information|hemorrhoids]].

** Officer Meekins a lot as well. [[Most Annoying Sound|That megaphone of his...MY EARS!]]

* [[That One Level]]: Many consider Moe's cross-examination to be a real pain in the ass, since one wrong press will get you penalized, and culminates with his last testimony, in which ''any'' pressing will cause you to instantly lose.

* [[Unfortunate Character Design]]: Daryan Crescend

** In one case Shi-Long mentions that guns are 'very hard to obtain in this country' and uses this as evidence to accuse a policeman. In the localization the game is set in Los Angeles, where this is very untrue.

** And then of course, there's the entire court system which is a satirization of the Japanese court system which itself looks alien and unjust to Americans familiar with the adversarial system and with the deeply enshrined principle of "innocent until proven guilty."

* [[The Woobie]]: Adrian Andrews, Miles Edgeworth, Vera Misham, Trucy Wright, Iris, Pearl Fey, Maya Fey... the list goes on. Some characters who aren't even [[The Woobie]] get woobie moments.

** Maggey Byrde practically DEFINES this trope.

 

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