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{{quote|''"But in animation, [[Follow the Leader|everyone is expected to come as close as they can to]] [[Walt Disney]]. That's not a rap on [[Walt Disney|Disney]]. He was a genius, an innovator…his stuff was so terrific that people came to believe that that was all there was to animation."''|'''[[Ralph Bakshi]], in the notes for the DVD release of ''American Pop'''''}}
{{quote|''"But in animation, [[Follow the Leader|everyone is expected to come as close as they can to]] [[Walt Disney]]. That's not a rap on [[Walt Disney|Disney]]. He was a genius, an innovator…his stuff was so terrific that people came to believe that that was all there was to animation."''|'''[[Ralph Bakshi]], in the notes for the DVD release of ''American Pop'''''}}


Oh, the [[Disney Animated Canon]]. Such wonderful movies to be found in it: ''[[Snow White (Disney film)|Snow White and The Seven Dwarfs]]'', ''[[Beauty and the Beast]]'', ''[[The Lion King]]'', ''[[Anastasia]]''...
Oh, the [[Disney Animated Canon]]. Such wonderful movies to be found in it: ''[[Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs (Disney film)|Snow White and The Seven Dwarfs]]'', ''[[Beauty and the Beast]]'', ''[[The Lion King]]'', ''[[Anastasia]]''...


[[The Last of These Is Not Like the Others|Wait, what do you mean that last one doesn't belong?]] It's ''not'' [[Disney]]? Don't be ridiculous, ''[[Title Drop|all]]'' [[Title Drop|animation is Disney]]!
[[The Last of These Is Not Like the Others|Wait, what do you mean that last one doesn't belong?]] It's ''not'' [[Disney]]? Don't be ridiculous, ''[[Title Drop|all]]'' [[Title Drop|animation is Disney]]!
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Remember, though, that [[Disney]] ''is'' the market leader in animated movies, and so it's understandable that rival animation studios [[Follow the Leader|follow trends]] set by the [[Disney Animated Canon]] (including, unfortunately, [[Disneyfication]]).
Remember, though, that [[Disney]] ''is'' the market leader in animated movies, and so it's understandable that rival animation studios [[Follow the Leader|follow trends]] set by the [[Disney Animated Canon]] (including, unfortunately, [[Disneyfication]]).


See also [[Critical Research Failure]] -- Disney uses [[Vanity Plate|Vanity Plates]] on its work, and so do the other big-name animators.
See also [[Critical Research Failure]] -- Disney uses [[Vanity Plate|Vanity Plates]] on its work, and so do the other big-name animators.


Annoyingly, this is [[Truth in Television]].
Annoyingly, this is [[Truth in Television]].
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*** And it appeared occasionally on the Disney Channel in the mid-1990s, as well as on [[Toon Disney]] along with all three sequels, to add to that confusion.
*** And it appeared occasionally on the Disney Channel in the mid-1990s, as well as on [[Toon Disney]] along with all three sequels, to add to that confusion.
** Several websites of song lyrics file Bluth film lyrics under Disney films instead.
** Several websites of song lyrics file Bluth film lyrics under Disney films instead.
*** At least one torrent of 'Disney Songs' available on the internet contains songs from Thumbelina and Ferngully.
*** At least one torrent of 'Disney Songs' available on the internet contains songs from Thumbelina and Ferngully.
*** [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmNtmaq12gQ This video about Toy Story 3] makes a joke during a Disney medley about Bluth's films being Disney!
*** [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmNtmaq12gQ This video about Toy Story 3] makes a joke during a Disney medley about Bluth's films being Disney!
** Made even more confusing when [[Disney Channel]] started airing [[Titan A.E.]], which could very well be mistaken with [[Treasure Planet|Disney's own space opera]].
** Made even more confusing when [[Disney Channel]] started airing [[Titan A.E.]], which could very well be mistaken with [[Treasure Planet|Disney's own space opera]].
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*** The story exists in several variant forms. In some versions, Kelly's producers at MGM were willing, until [[Hanna-Barbera|William Hanna and Joseph Barbera]] heard about it and convinced them to use Jerry; in one version, [[Walt Disney]] refused to loan Mickey out; in still another (perhaps the most likely) version, Walt was willing, but his brother Roy pointed out that their studio was in debt at the time and could not afford "to be making cartoons for other people."
*** The story exists in several variant forms. In some versions, Kelly's producers at MGM were willing, until [[Hanna-Barbera|William Hanna and Joseph Barbera]] heard about it and convinced them to use Jerry; in one version, [[Walt Disney]] refused to loan Mickey out; in still another (perhaps the most likely) version, Walt was willing, but his brother Roy pointed out that their studio was in debt at the time and could not afford "to be making cartoons for other people."
* One reviewer of ''[[Thomas the Tank Engine|Thomas and the Magic Railroad]]'' was under the impression that Thomas had been produced by Disney. Then again, the review itself was poking fun at fundamentalist Christians who think all movies are the work of the devil.
* One reviewer of ''[[Thomas the Tank Engine|Thomas and the Magic Railroad]]'' was under the impression that Thomas had been produced by Disney. Then again, the review itself was poking fun at fundamentalist Christians who think all movies are the work of the devil.
** Muddying the issue is that the movie actually aired on Playhouse Disney regularly in Asian markets.
** Muddying the issue is that the movie actually aired on Playhouse Disney regularly in Asian markets.
* Most of the output of 20th Century Fox (which was almost entirely the work of Bluth) and much later, their 3D studio Blue Sky Studios, gets mistaken for Disney.
* Most of the output of 20th Century Fox (which was almost entirely the work of Bluth) and much later, their 3D studio Blue Sky Studios, gets mistaken for Disney.
* At least [http://www.amazon.com/review/RH3B1MC2JCH9R/ref=cm_cr_pr_cmt?ie=UTF8&ASIN=B0007GAE12 one customer review] for the soundtrack for the [[Blue Sky]] film ''[[Robots]]'' calls it a Disney film.
* At least [http://www.amazon.com/review/RH3B1MC2JCH9R/ref=cm_cr_pr_cmt?ie=UTF8&ASIN=B0007GAE12 one customer review] for the soundtrack for the [[Blue Sky]] film ''[[Robots]]'' calls it a Disney film.
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* ''[[The Prince of Egypt]]'' is a frequent victim of this trope, more so than Dream Works' other 2-D animated features.
* ''[[The Prince of Egypt]]'' is a frequent victim of this trope, more so than Dream Works' other 2-D animated features.
* ''[[The Nutcracker Prince]]''. Fans of this movie mistook most of the animation (save for the flashback sequences) as similar to the Disney era. It doesn't help that there's also a [[Disney Villain Death]] within this movie.
* ''[[The Nutcracker Prince]]''. Fans of this movie mistook most of the animation (save for the flashback sequences) as similar to the Disney era. It doesn't help that there's also a [[Disney Villain Death]] within this movie.
* ''[[Balto]]'' is another one that's frequently mistaken as a Disney film ''and'' as a Don Bluth film.
* ''[[Balto]]'' is another one that's frequently mistaken as a Disney film ''and'' as a Don Bluth film.
* Animation movies done in other countries besides the USA can often fall under this, even in their own country! It's not helped by the fact that Disney often distributes those films in the international market, adding more fuel to the confusion.
* Animation movies done in other countries besides the USA can often fall under this, even in their own country! It's not helped by the fact that Disney often distributes those films in the international market, adding more fuel to the confusion.
** Bridgit Mendler, who voiced the title character of the American dub of ''[[The Borrower Arrietty]]'', refers to the film as a Disney movie in one of the bonus features, since Disney commissioned the American dub.
** Bridgit Mendler, who voiced the title character of the American dub of ''[[The Borrower Arrietty]]'', refers to the film as a Disney movie in one of the bonus features, since Disney commissioned the American dub.
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* From the website "Letters Of Note" comes [http://www.lettersofnote.com/2010/08/this-little-girl-has-her-walters.html this adorable exchange.] In 1964, a girl who was a fan of [[Woody Woodpecker]] attempted to write a letter to its creator [[Walter Lantz]], but addressed it to Walt Disney instead, who was nice enough to reply to the girl ''and'' forward it along. Disney seemed to anticipate this trope in his note to Lantz, grumbling, "I get blamed for everything that happens in Hollywood!"
* From the website "Letters Of Note" comes [http://www.lettersofnote.com/2010/08/this-little-girl-has-her-walters.html this adorable exchange.] In 1964, a girl who was a fan of [[Woody Woodpecker]] attempted to write a letter to its creator [[Walter Lantz]], but addressed it to Walt Disney instead, who was nice enough to reply to the girl ''and'' forward it along. Disney seemed to anticipate this trope in his note to Lantz, grumbling, "I get blamed for everything that happens in Hollywood!"
* A book of Disney quotes sold at Hallmark stores as part of a series of official Disney merchandise includes a line from Don Bluth's ''[[The Land Before Time]]''.
* A book of Disney quotes sold at Hallmark stores as part of a series of official Disney merchandise includes a line from Don Bluth's ''[[The Land Before Time]]''.
* On March 22, 2011, Disney's [[ABC]] TV network presented a two-hour special titled "Best in Film: The Greatest Movies of Our Time", which presented the best moments or films in various categories. In the animation category, four of the choices were made by Walt Disney Pictures: 1. ''[[The Lion King]]'', 3. ''[[Beauty and the Beast]]'', 4. ''[[Snow White (Disney film)|Snow White and The Seven Dwarfs]]'' and 5. ''[[Fantasia]]''. Number two? ''[[Toy Story]]'' - made by [[Pixar]], but nevertheless distributed by Disney.
* On March 22, 2011, Disney's [[ABC]] TV network presented a two-hour special titled "Best in Film: The Greatest Movies of Our Time", which presented the best moments or films in various categories. In the animation category, four of the choices were made by Walt Disney Pictures: 1. ''[[The Lion King]]'', 3. ''[[Beauty and the Beast]]'', 4. ''[[Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs (Disney film)|Snow White and The Seven Dwarfs]]'' and 5. ''[[Fantasia]]''. Number two? ''[[Toy Story]]'' - made by [[Pixar]], but nevertheless distributed by Disney.
** This trope doesn't really apply when you consider that Pixar was bought out by Disney. Then again ABC is in fact also owned by them...
** This trope doesn't really apply when you consider that Pixar was bought out by Disney. Then again ABC is in fact also owned by them...
* This trope has a way of running rampant on [[EBay]], either because the sellers themselves are ignorant or because they assume the buyers are.
* This trope has a way of running rampant on [[EBay]], either because the sellers themselves are ignorant or because they assume the buyers are.
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* The Goldo song Boom Da Boom, which is about Disney Characters, mentions Chitty Chitty Bang Bang, which is made by MGM!
* The Goldo song Boom Da Boom, which is about Disney Characters, mentions Chitty Chitty Bang Bang, which is made by MGM!
* [http://www.theage.com.au/news/national/maccas-takes-out-pester-power-prize/2007/10/04/1191091281190.html This article] about the 2007 Pester Power awards calls Shrek a Disney movie.
* [http://www.theage.com.au/news/national/maccas-takes-out-pester-power-prize/2007/10/04/1191091281190.html This article] about the 2007 Pester Power awards calls Shrek a Disney movie.
* Inverted with the comic [[Blacksad]]- Guarnido, the illustrator, actually WAS a Disney animator, animating Hades in [[Hercules]], Sabor in [[Tarzan]], and Helga in [[Atlantis: The Lost Empire]], among other work, but the only evidence of this is in the characters' facial expressions. It might be because Blacksad is a gritty, violent, sexual, political noir comic (populated entirely by anthropomorphic animals, no less) and going for an entirely Disneyfied look wouldn't fit.
* Inverted with the comic [[Blacksad]]- Guarnido, the illustrator, actually WAS a Disney animator, animating Hades in [[Hercules]], Sabor in [[Tarzan]], and Helga in [[Atlantis: The Lost Empire]], among other work, but the only evidence of this is in the characters' facial expressions. It might be because Blacksad is a gritty, violent, sexual, political noir comic (populated entirely by anthropomorphic animals, no less) and going for an entirely Disneyfied look wouldn't fit.




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== Real Life ==
== Real Life ==
* [http://www.facebook.com/events/119454151519590 An event at a children's indoor playground/birthday party center] has an event called "Disney Parade". The characters are [[Phineas and Ferb|Phineas, Ferb]], [[Toy Story|Woody, Buzz, Jessie]], [[Snow White (Disney film)|Snow White]], and...[[Star Wars|DARTH VADER]]? He isn't Disney! This one is ''really'' bad considering that unlike all the other examples, Darth Vader isn't even an animated character so there's no earthly reason to believe he's Disney. (But if you count the Star Wars weekends and Star Tours ride, then that can count!)
* [http://www.facebook.com/events/119454151519590 An event at a children's indoor playground/birthday party center] has an event called "Disney Parade". The characters are [[Phineas and Ferb|Phineas, Ferb]], [[Toy Story|Woody, Buzz, Jessie]], [[Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs (Disney film)|Snow White]], and...[[Star Wars|DARTH VADER]]? He isn't Disney! This one is ''really'' bad considering that unlike all the other examples, Darth Vader isn't even an animated character so there's no earthly reason to believe he's Disney. (But if you count the Star Wars weekends and Star Tours ride, then that can count!)


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