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For various reasons, [[Status Quo Is God]] is a common trope. Even if it doesn't apply to the characters and overall plot structure, the world and setting itself is unlikely to deviate significantly from its origin. This is especially true when [[Reed Richards Is Useless]], making any and all [[Added Alliterative AppealAlliteration|marvels made by these mad men meaningless to the masses]]. Before long, people inside and outside the story will start [[Lampshade Hanging|noting]] that they can only really count on the resident Reed Richards to rectify problems when doing so restores the status quo.
 
However, all of that changes in stories set in an [[Alternate Universe]], "[[What If]]", or limited series. Since it has no effect on ongoing canon continuity, these stories can showcase the full extent of changes (good and bad) that releasing the [[Phlebotinum]] of the week would have on the planet. Potentially, this can either restore the coolness of their "canon counterpart" or diminish it, depending on the viewer.
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== [[Marvel Comics]] ==
* As the [[Trope Namer]], Reed Richards has had created at least three such universes through AU's.
** Reed Richards from Earth-70105, setting of the ''[[Bullet Points]]'' miniseries where, because of a single bullet, Peter Parker is [[The Incredible Hulk (Comic Book)|The Incredible Hulk]], Steve Rogers is [[Iron Man]], Bruce Banner is [[Spider -Man (Comic Book)|Spider Man]] and Reed Richards, well - at the cost of losing his three companions ([[Nick Fury|and his eye in the process]]), becomes ''the head of S.H.I.E.L.D.'', and he's [[Crowning Moment of Awesome|damn competent at doing that, too.]]
** In ''[[Ultimate Fantastic Four]]'', when Ben goes back in time to avoid being turned into the Thing, he changes time such that Reed and the Skrulls modernize the world even more and give everyone superpowers. It does not end well, but only because of the [[Batman Gambit]] of the [[Token Evil Teammate|Token Evil Diplomat]].
*** Later subverted; in this continuity he works for a government think-tank, but eventually gets so frustrated at not being able to change the world for the better in this position that he decides to [[Well-Intentioned Extremist|MAKE things change]]. [[Face Heel Turn|By force.]] {{spoiler|He's since conquered most of Europe, destroyed Washington, D.C., killed nearly all the Asgardians, and now rules a nation notably more powerful than the United States.}}
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*** Yet played straight for the Pro-Registration arc in that one alternate universe where he was practically the only one in control of the program. Under only Reed's control, the Registration program was pretty successful.
** Also subverted in another [[Alternate Universe]] where Reed Richards acquired the abilities of [[I Just Want to Be Normal|the Thing]] as opposed to Ben Grimm. Because of this, he became [[Angst|reclusive due to his freakish appearance]]. In fact, the Ben of that universe ended up marrying Sue Storm, instead of him. When Reed Richards of the normal 616 universe met him and asked for his help (see the above points), this version of Reed agreed but quickly told him to leave soon after. This was because, not only did the 616 version look human but he also married Sue. The Thing-Reed warned that he could go into a [[Berserk Button|rage]] at any moment due to jealousy.
** ''[[Exiles (Comic Book)|Exiles]]'' has featured numerous Reeds, most of them pretty [[Badass Bookworm|badass]]. Two particularly good ones include a rebel resistance fighter against the evil ruler of his earth(an evil Invisible Woman), and a former gladiator who builds a device that forces a fully powered Galactus to flee.
* Speaking of ''[[Civil War (Comic Book)|Civil War]],'' Reed once looked at other universes in order to see if he could've done something differently. Many of the realities he saw showed that the Civil War was averted. Mainly, the reason why the 616 universe one ended as badly as it did is that Reed Richards did it all himself in the other realities. In the 616 universe, he worked alongside [[The Load|Tony Stark and Hank Pym.]] Though one of those universes had the Civil War being averted because Captain America and Natasha Stark(female Iron Man) were shacking up.
** The Hank Pym of ''[[Civil War (Comic Book)|Civil War]]'' was actually [[The Mole]].
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* In ''[[Supreme Power]]'' the resident super genius' inventions ultimately backfire and ''worsen'' the world.
* Thanks to [[Joker Immunity]], [[The Punisher]] can't ever kill scum like [[Daredevil|The Kingpin]], or even really curb crime significantly. However, in one "What If?" he manages to take out every super villain... ''and'' every superhero... in Marvel. The circumstances were that his family was killed in the crossfire of a fight between supers and an alien race.
** The Marvel MAX series possibly counts as well.
*** The recent arcs have introduced Bullseye and Kingpin. It remains to be seen if either will be killed.
** In "What if The Punisher received the Venom symbiote", the Punisher kills the Kingpin too. However, upon realising that the symbiote was ''controlling him'' (blackouts, attacking allies, trying to kill [[Spider -Man]] etc), he has a [[Crowning Moment of Awesome]] when he tells it that if he won't be in control, ''he'd rather die and take the symbiote with him''. The symbiote backs down, and the Watcher of that universe states that the Punisher actually got control over it. Also turning the suit into physical firearm weapons like [[The Mask (Comic Bookcomics)|The Mask]] counts.
* [[Crazy Awesome|There was an alternate universe version of Ben Grimm who traveled back in time, became a pirate (named Thingbeard), singlehandedly defeated the British Empire, and founded the United States of America.]]
* One issue of ''[[What If]],'' written by [[Simon Furman]], featured Tony Stark, upon first inventing the Iron Man suit, make his technology available to governments around the world. This has many positive effects, especially in health care; unfortunately, it has many negative effects as well, as despite his best efforts, governments used it in arms races; and despite ''their'' best efforts, the tech filtered out to supervillains, who used it in arms races of their own. Years down the line, most non-armor based heroes and villains were made obsolete, an enhanced [[Doctor Doom]] killed the Fantastic Four, and Magneto declared that if the world's governments didn't back off from their use of Stark-tech--astech—as it was being used to persecute mutants--hemutants—he was going to start wreaking havoc on an unprecedented scale. Stark attempted to capture Magneto and use him to generate a worldwide electromagnetic pulse to shut down ''all'' technology, both his own and otherwise, in a last-ditch attempt to undo the harm he'd unwillingly caused; however, his best friend Jim Rhodes talked him out of it by reminding him of all the good Stark-tech had done and could still do. Stark chooses to [[Take a Third Option]], using the threat of the Magneto pulse to blackmail the world's governments to stop using his technology for offensive purposes.
** In another [[What If]] where Tony is stuck in Camelot, he ends up having to repair his armour, which he does by (starting with a medieval forge) using [[Sid MeiersMeier's Alpha Centauri|"Crude Tools to fashion better tools"]]. He eventually succeeds [[King Arthur]], making sure Camelot never falls, and kicking of the [[Industrial Revolution]]... ''in the 8th century''.
 
== [[DC Comics]] ==
* ''[[Watchmen (Comic Bookcomics)|Watchmen]]'' [[Deconstruction|deconstructs]] this severely, as the arguable theme of the story is somewhere between "Superheroes are neurotic screw-ups who do nothing but escalate the conflict" and "[[Beware the Superman]]".
** Alternately, ''[[Watchmen (Comic Bookcomics)|Watchmen]]'' ''is'' a [[Deconstruction]] of it for the [[DC Universe]], demonstrating that even a single person with [[Game Breaker]] powers like those of the [[Silver Age]] [[Superman]] would have dramatically changed the course of history.
*** This is brought up in a conversation between Nightowl I and Dr. Manhattan. Nightowl tells Manhattan that he thinks he'll work on cars when he retires, stating that not even Manhattan could change cars. Manhattan then tells him that because he can synthesize materials, companies could mass-produce much more efficient cars. Sure enough, in the present, Nightowl's business in cars seems incredibly low.
* Alternate versions of ''[[Superman]]'' can display this, such as ''[[Superman: Red Son]]'' where he [[Take Over the World|takes over the world]].
** [[Tangent Comics|Tangent Superman]] did this too for seemingly benign reasons.
** The original [[Silver Age]] Superman Red / Superman Blue story had the twin Supermen turn the world into a utopia. It's a pretty weird story, even by Silver Age standards.
** In [[Pre Crisis]] stories, [[Lex Luthor]] once had a [[Pet the Dog]] moment where he saved the civilization of an alien planet. The locals idolized him for it (renaming their planet "Lexor"), and Lex decided he liked being seen as a hero ''somewhere,'' so he kept on doing nice things for the locals for years, even marrying a Lexorian woman. Then he [[What Have I Done|accidentally destroyed the place]] in a fight with Superman. Naturally Lex [[Blame Game|blamed him for it.]]
** The Superman of Earth-23. "Now, disguised as United States President Calvin Ellis, Kalel of Krypton fights a never-ending battle for truth, justice, and the American way as... SUPERMAN!" [[Barack Obama|No Forty-Fourth Presidents Were Harmed]] is in full effect.
* Although [[Batman]] is already [[Badass|pretty awesome to begin with,]] ''[[Countdown to Final Crisis]]'' features a universe where nobody stopped him from killing the Joker after the Joker beat Jason Todd to death. Batman decides, since he's already crossed the line, there's no going back, so he decides to ''kill every villain on the planet.'' And then, being Batman, he ''does.'' The world ends up a utopia with no crime, something every Batman dreams of. Unfortunately for him, Batman doesn't end up with any peace of mind out of the deal, [[No Place for Me There|not that he ever expects to.]]
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== [[Video Games]] ==
* ''[[City of Heroes (Video Game)|City of Heroes]]'' has the alternate dimension of Praetoria, which is your standard superheroes-turn-world-into-shiny-police-state. Of especial note is the (on Primal Earth) not very science-minded Synapse's alternate counterpart Neutron being responsible for providing the world with cheap robotic labor.
 
== [[Web Comics]] ==
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== [[Western Animation]] ==
* Close to everyone in ''[[Phineas and Ferb|Phineas and Ferb: Across The Second Dimension]]''. Alt!Doof has taken over the Tri-state Area. Alt!Candace is the leader of the resistance against him, and the Fireside Girls and Baljeet are members.
** On the other hand, Alt!Phineas and Alt!Ferb are closer to the brainwashed versions from ''Phineas and Ferb Get Busted'' {{spoiler|due to Alt!Candace being overly protective of them. They eventually show the same seeds of coolness as their main universe counterparts}}.
* [[The Venture Brothers (Animation)|Rusty Venture]] finds this version of himself after a villain with a portal in his stomach falls on top of him. He tries to kill his other self with a rock, alt!Rusty catches him and drags him back home. The whole thing is played as a gag.
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[[Doctor Doom|Doom]] does not approve of the name of this trope! He demands it changed to something more suited to Richard's level of competence!
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