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{{quote|''This country never has lost a war<br />
{{quote|''This country never has lost a war
From days of William Penn,<br />
From days of William Penn,
We did it before, we'll do it again.''|"We Did It Before" (American [[World War II]] song)}}
We did it before, we'll do it again.''|"We Did It Before" (American [[World War II]] song)}}


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* Averted in ''[[Atomic Robo]]'', where of the five issues dealing with the titular robot's exploits against Nazi super-science, three of them has him teamed up with British agents (including one extremely [[Badass]] and nigh-unintelligible Scotsman).
* Averted in ''[[Atomic Robo]]'', where of the five issues dealing with the titular robot's exploits against Nazi super-science, three of them has him teamed up with British agents (including one extremely [[Badass]] and nigh-unintelligible Scotsman).
* Given a head nod in ''[[The Punisher]]: [[Civil War (Comic Book)|Civil War]]'', when Frank is having a tense disagreement over tactics with [[Captain America]].
* Given a head nod in ''[[The Punisher]]: [[Civil War (Comic Book)|Civil War]]'', when Frank is having a tense disagreement over tactics with [[Captain America]].
{{quote| '''Cap''': My ways stopped Hitler, boy.<br />
{{quote|'''Cap''': My ways stopped Hitler, boy.
'''Frank''': [[With Due Respect|No sir]], the Russians stopped Hitler. }}
'''Frank''': [[With Due Respect|No sir]], the Russians stopped Hitler. }}


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* Also averted in ''Saints and Soldiers,'' when the Americans rescue a downed British recon pilot and attempt to return him to friendly lines.
* Also averted in ''Saints and Soldiers,'' when the Americans rescue a downed British recon pilot and attempt to return him to friendly lines.
* Absolutely averted in ''[[The Longest Day]]''. It includes practically ''everyone''. Also the Germans. Memorable for its portrayal of German officers:
* Absolutely averted in ''[[The Longest Day]]''. It includes practically ''everyone''. Also the Germans. Memorable for its portrayal of German officers:
{{quote| '''Blumentritt:''' (''as a sarcastic response to the message, that the Führer is asleep, and therefore unable to give permission to deploy vital Panzer reserves to Normandy'') This is history. We are living an historical moment. We are going to lose the war because our glorious Führer has taken a sleeping pill and is not to be awakened. Sometimes I wonder which side God is on." }}
{{quote|'''Blumentritt:''' (''as a sarcastic response to the message, that the Führer is asleep, and therefore unable to give permission to deploy vital Panzer reserves to Normandy'') This is history. We are living an historical moment. We are going to lose the war because our glorious Führer has taken a sleeping pill and is not to be awakened. Sometimes I wonder which side God is on." }}
* The 1945 [[Errol Flynn]] film ''Objective, Burma!'' caused a minor uproar in the UK for supposedly suggesting that British involvement in the Burmese campaign was minimal, when, in fact, the British had been the primary combatants in the campaign. [[Winston Churchill|Churchill]] himself was said to have been incensed by the film, and it was denounced in the ''Times''. [[Warner Bros]]. withdrew the film from circulation in the UK, and it did not appear there until 1952.
* The 1945 [[Errol Flynn]] film ''Objective, Burma!'' caused a minor uproar in the UK for supposedly suggesting that British involvement in the Burmese campaign was minimal, when, in fact, the British had been the primary combatants in the campaign. [[Winston Churchill|Churchill]] himself was said to have been incensed by the film, and it was denounced in the ''Times''. [[Warner Bros]]. withdrew the film from circulation in the UK, and it did not appear there until 1952.
** Interestingly author/screenwriter [[George Macdonald Fraser]], who had been an infantryman in Burma during the war, said in his book ''Hollywood History'' that he rather liked ''Objective, Burma!' and that at least American troops had fought in that theater.
** Interestingly author/screenwriter [[George Macdonald Fraser]], who had been an infantryman in Burma during the war, said in his book ''Hollywood History'' that he rather liked ''Objective, Burma!' and that at least American troops had fought in that theater.
* In ''[[It's A Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World]]'', Milton Berle's character invokes this while arguing with Terry-Thomas. It proves to be something of a [[Berserk Button]] for the latter.
* In ''[[It's A Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World]]'', Milton Berle's character invokes this while arguing with Terry-Thomas. It proves to be something of a [[Berserk Button]] for the latter.
{{quote| "As far as I'm concerned, the whole British race is practically finished. If it hadn't been for Lend-Lease, if we hadn't kept your whole country afloat by giving you billions that you never even said 'Thank you' for, the whole phony outfit would've sunk under the Atlantic years ago...What are you stopping for?"<br />
{{quote|"As far as I'm concerned, the whole British race is practically finished. If it hadn't been for Lend-Lease, if we hadn't kept your whole country afloat by giving you billions that you never even said 'Thank you' for, the whole phony outfit would've sunk under the Atlantic years ago...What are you stopping for?"
"[[Get Out!]] of this machine." }}
"[[Get Out!]] of this machine." }}
* Averted in the 1961 adaptation of ''[[The Guns of Navarone]]''. The team consisted of a American (Mallory), two Brits (Franklin and Miller), two Greeks (Stavros and Pappadimos) and one person of unknown nationality ("Butcher" Brown, played by Welshman Stanley Baker).
* Averted in the 1961 adaptation of ''[[The Guns of Navarone]]''. The team consisted of a American (Mallory), two Brits (Franklin and Miller), two Greeks (Stavros and Pappadimos) and one person of unknown nationality ("Butcher" Brown, played by Welshman Stanley Baker).
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* The ''[[Medal of Honor]]'' series, however, tend to play this pretty straight, in which you're an American soldier who seems to single-handedly ensure victory in every major Allied campaign and save the day. In later expansion packs, this even included battles in which ''America played no part whatsoever''. The second game of the series focused on a French woman, Manon Batiste, fighting the Germans as a Maquis and an OSS operative.
* The ''[[Medal of Honor]]'' series, however, tend to play this pretty straight, in which you're an American soldier who seems to single-handedly ensure victory in every major Allied campaign and save the day. In later expansion packs, this even included battles in which ''America played no part whatsoever''. The second game of the series focused on a French woman, Manon Batiste, fighting the Germans as a Maquis and an OSS operative.
** ''MoH: Airborne'', where each mission ends with a debriefing voice-over from the commanding officer. After a relatively minor skirmish in Italy, 1943 he proclaims "The war has begun" and after a very over-the-top raid on a flak tower in early 1945 he says that the war is over and effectively gives the Airborne itself full credit in his speech. The British are mentioned in passing in one mission, Operation Market Garden - fascinatingly, in contrast to the earlier ''MoH: Frontline'', it is presented as a great victory in spite of the fact it's actually the Allies' most notorious bungle.
** ''MoH: Airborne'', where each mission ends with a debriefing voice-over from the commanding officer. After a relatively minor skirmish in Italy, 1943 he proclaims "The war has begun" and after a very over-the-top raid on a flak tower in early 1945 he says that the war is over and effectively gives the Airborne itself full credit in his speech. The British are mentioned in passing in one mission, Operation Market Garden - fascinatingly, in contrast to the earlier ''MoH: Frontline'', it is presented as a great victory in spite of the fact it's actually the Allies' most notorious bungle.
{{quote| [[Zero Punctuation|Yahtzee: "So why does the US have such a fascination about a time that everyone else would rather just forget about and move on? Well, probably because that was the last war in which they did any good; when they had a clear win over an unambiguously evil villain who posed a genuine threat, rather than any of these wishy-washy recent wars where they just run in, stomp all over a developing nation and run out again declaring victory around the time the population have to start eating their own dead."]] }}
{{quote|[[Zero Punctuation|Yahtzee: "So why does the US have such a fascination about a time that everyone else would rather just forget about and move on? Well, probably because that was the last war in which they did any good; when they had a clear win over an unambiguously evil villain who posed a genuine threat, rather than any of these wishy-washy recent wars where they just run in, stomp all over a developing nation and run out again declaring victory around the time the population have to start eating their own dead."]] }}
* ''Operation Darkness'' mixes this trope up a bit, by instead using Britain Wins The War. Both the plot of the game and its brief historical asides emphasize the British contribution to the war effort in the same way this trope does for the US. The funny thing? It's a Japanese game.
* ''Operation Darkness'' mixes this trope up a bit, by instead using Britain Wins The War. Both the plot of the game and its brief historical asides emphasize the British contribution to the war effort in the same way this trope does for the US. The funny thing? It's a Japanese game.
* Averted - ''probably'' - in ''[[Command and Conquer Red Alert]]''. As per [[Hitler's Time Travel Exemption Act]], this version of WW II is quite different, with a Soviet invasion of Europe being countered by Allies led by a German supreme commander and aided by technology developed by [[Albert Einstein]], while [[Word of God]] is that America didn't directly join the war until the Soviets were already losing. That said, the Allied armory includes what look like Abrams tanks and M-16s ([[Anachronism Stew|in the 1950's]]), but it's unclear whether this is due to an extensive lend-lease campaign by the United States, the result of [[Alternate History]] shenanigans, or simply because the game reuses a lot of assets from the original ''[[Command and Conquer]]''.
* Averted - ''probably'' - in ''[[Command and Conquer Red Alert]]''. As per [[Hitler's Time Travel Exemption Act]], this version of WW II is quite different, with a Soviet invasion of Europe being countered by Allies led by a German supreme commander and aided by technology developed by [[Albert Einstein]], while [[Word of God]] is that America didn't directly join the war until the Soviets were already losing. That said, the Allied armory includes what look like Abrams tanks and M-16s ([[Anachronism Stew|in the 1950's]]), but it's unclear whether this is due to an extensive lend-lease campaign by the United States, the result of [[Alternate History]] shenanigans, or simply because the game reuses a lot of assets from the original ''[[Command and Conquer]]''.