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Over the course of a long-running series, something happens to the main character. He [[De Power|loses his powers]], makes a [[Heroic Sacrifice]], or gets [[Older and Wiser]] and decides to retire. Sometimes they [[Dropped a Bridge On Him]], or [[Put On a Bus|Put Him On A Bus]]. In a word, he's gone. But the story still goes on! [[Legacy Character|His role is taken by a]] [[Suspiciously Similar Substitute]], but one with a very different character. He's how the original hero would be if he were a [[Jerkass]], [[Anti Hero]] or (most commonly) [[Nineties Anti Hero]]. This guy is often an effect of [[Executive Meddling]], which arises when editors stupidly declare that audience stopped liking the first hero or never liked him at all; so he will be replaced with someone [[Darker and Edgier]]. Of course, most of time they are wrong: the original guy has so many fans that his replacement quickly becomes a [[Replacement Scrappy]].
Over the course of a long-running series, something happens to the main character. He [[De Power|loses his powers]], makes a [[Heroic Sacrifice]], or gets [[Older and Wiser]] and decides to retire. Sometimes they [[Dropped a Bridge On Him]], or [[Put On a Bus|Put Him On A Bus]]. In a word, he's gone. But the story still goes on! [[Legacy Character|His role is taken by a]] [[Suspiciously Similar Substitute]], but one with a very different character. He's how the original hero would be if he were a [[Jerkass]], [[Anti-Hero]] or (most commonly) [[Nineties Anti Hero]]. This guy is often an effect of [[Executive Meddling]], which arises when editors stupidly declare that audience stopped liking the first hero or never liked him at all; so he will be replaced with someone [[Darker and Edgier]]. Of course, most of time they are wrong: the original guy has so many fans that his replacement quickly becomes a [[Replacement Scrappy]].


The moment when the creators realize this and decide to push the big [[Reset Button]] is beginning of the hero's return: [[He's Back|first hero is back]], and often has a fight with the [[Anti Hero Substitute]] for his position. Of course, however contemptuously the [[Anti Hero]] dubs him "[[Good Is Old Fashioned|outdated]]", the original hero wins and [[Status Quo Is God|takes the story back to the point right before the new guy took over]]. The [[Anti Hero Substitute]] becomes forgotten as fast as possible, and the [[Story Arc]] featuring him becomes a [[Dork Age]]. Alternatively, the [[Anti Hero Substitute]] gets a name change and, now that he's not replacing a much loved character, may be [[Rescued From the Scrappy Heap]].
The moment when the creators realize this and decide to push the big [[Reset Button]] is beginning of the hero's return: [[He's Back|first hero is back]], and often has a fight with the [[Anti Hero Substitute]] for his position. Of course, however contemptuously the [[Anti-Hero]] dubs him "[[Good Is Old-Fashioned|outdated]]", the original hero wins and [[Status Quo Is God|takes the story back to the point right before the new guy took over]]. The [[Anti Hero Substitute]] becomes forgotten as fast as possible, and the [[Story Arc]] featuring him becomes a [[Dork Age]]. Alternatively, the [[Anti Hero Substitute]] gets a name change and, now that he's not replacing a much loved character, may be [[Rescued From the Scrappy Heap]].


This happened a '''lot''' during the [[Dark Age]] of Comics ([[The Nineties]]). Back then, it was common to expect readers to like the character, but writers have gotten smarter since then. Now, the [[Darker and Edgier]] version of the hero is commonly portrayed as a villain or a psychopath, as the [[Nineties Anti Hero]] archetype has grown less popular over time.
This happened a '''lot''' during the [[Dark Age]] of Comics ([[The Nineties]]). Back then, it was common to expect readers to like the character, but writers have gotten smarter since then. Now, the [[Darker and Edgier]] version of the hero is commonly portrayed as a villain or a psychopath, as the [[Nineties Anti Hero]] archetype has grown less popular over time.


See also: [[Counterpart Comparison]], which often happens to this character. Subtrope of [[Suspiciously Similar Substitute]]. May overlap with [[Costume Copycat]]. Could be an [[El Cid Ploy]] gone bad. Contrast with the [[Redeeming Replacement]].
See also: [[Counterpart Comparison]], which often happens to this character. Subtrope of [[Suspiciously Similar Substitute]]. May overlap with [[Costume Copycat]]. Could be an [[El Cid Ploy]] gone bad. Contrast with the [[Redeeming Replacement]].
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* This happens to [[Batman]] a lot:
* This happens to [[Batman]] a lot:
** During the ''[[Knightfall]]'' story arc, Batman was temporarily paralyzed by Bane and gave his cowl to Azrael, who quickly became a [[Knight Templar]]. This forced Batman to undergo [[Training From Hell]] to fight [[Fan Nickname|AzBats]] and reclaim his old identity. AzBats turned out to be a deliberate [[Take That]] at the fans who wanted Batman to be closer to [[The Punisher]] than, well, Batman. ("You wanted Needlessly Violent Batman? There you go!") As it turns out, the only people that were all that thrilled with him were the makers and players of ''[[Batman Doom]]'', a high-quality ''[[Doom]]'' mod. Well, maybe a few others, since after being bounced from the Batman position his solo series lasted over a hundred issues.
** During the ''[[Knightfall]]'' story arc, Batman was temporarily paralyzed by Bane and gave his cowl to Azrael, who quickly became a [[Knight Templar]]. This forced Batman to undergo [[Training From Hell]] to fight [[Fan Nickname|AzBats]] and reclaim his old identity. AzBats turned out to be a deliberate [[Take That]] at the fans who wanted Batman to be closer to [[The Punisher]] than, well, Batman. ("You wanted Needlessly Violent Batman? There you go!") As it turns out, the only people that were all that thrilled with him were the makers and players of ''[[Batman Doom]]'', a high-quality ''[[Doom]]'' mod. Well, maybe a few others, since after being bounced from the Batman position his solo series lasted over a hundred issues.
** Cheerful and lovable circus brat Dick Grayson was replaced by cheerful and lovable circus brat Jason Todd in the early 80s. Then, post-Crisis, in a rare case of a character being replaced by an [[Anti Hero]] version ''of himself,'' Jason Todd was retcon'd into an abrasive former street thug. He also spent a bit of time as a psychopathic version of Nightwing. Also, during the ''Battle for the Cowl'' event, Jason would also take up the mantle of Batman after {{spoiler|his apparent death}} and became a gun-wielding psychopath. He was played as the villain of the story, however.
** Cheerful and lovable circus brat Dick Grayson was replaced by cheerful and lovable circus brat Jason Todd in the early 80s. Then, post-Crisis, in a rare case of a character being replaced by an [[Anti-Hero]] version ''of himself,'' Jason Todd was retcon'd into an abrasive former street thug. He also spent a bit of time as a psychopathic version of Nightwing. Also, during the ''Battle for the Cowl'' event, Jason would also take up the mantle of Batman after {{spoiler|his apparent death}} and became a gun-wielding psychopath. He was played as the villain of the story, however.
** During the aforementioned ''Battle for the Cowl'', Two-Face also attempted to become the next Batman and Hush impersonated Bruce Wayne with the help of [[Magic Plastic Surgery]].
** During the aforementioned ''Battle for the Cowl'', Two-Face also attempted to become the next Batman and Hush impersonated Bruce Wayne with the help of [[Magic Plastic Surgery]].
** During the ''Batman and Son'' storyline, fake Batmen began showing up in Gotham City and committing crimes, and Bruce was forced to fight them. The eventual source of these was revealed to be psychological experiments conducted by the Gotham Police Department to create replacement Batmen should anything ever happen to the real one. This didn't turn out so well.
** During the ''Batman and Son'' storyline, fake Batmen began showing up in Gotham City and committing crimes, and Bruce was forced to fight them. The eventual source of these was revealed to be psychological experiments conducted by the Gotham Police Department to create replacement Batmen should anything ever happen to the real one. This didn't turn out so well.
** Current Robin Damian Wayne is more of an [[Anti Hero]] than his predecessor, but new Batman Dick Grayson has made it his goal to craft him into a true superhero and not an [[Anti Hero]].
** Current Robin Damian Wayne is more of an [[Anti-Hero]] than his predecessor, but new Batman Dick Grayson has made it his goal to craft him into a true superhero and not an [[Anti-Hero]].
** Cassandra Cain as [[Batgirl]] has both the outfit and the angsty backstory, but it's subverted in that she's also very much [[The Cape]].
** Cassandra Cain as [[Batgirl]] has both the outfit and the angsty backstory, but it's subverted in that she's also very much [[The Cape]].
** During the "Titans Tomorrow" arc, a potential future version of Tim Drake becomes a gun-wielding Batman.
** During the "Titans Tomorrow" arc, a potential future version of Tim Drake becomes a gun-wielding Batman.
** And, of course, while Terry McGinnis of ''[[Batman Beyond (Animation)|Batman Beyond]]'' has most of the heroic qualities of the original, the series premise of a hot-headed [[Snark Knight]] and former juvenile delinquent stepping into Bruce's place after the latter's retirement is very much in line with this trope.
** And, of course, while Terry McGinnis of ''[[Batman Beyond (Animation)|Batman Beyond]]'' has most of the heroic qualities of the original, the series premise of a hot-headed [[Snark Knight]] and former juvenile delinquent stepping into Bruce's place after the latter's retirement is very much in line with this trope.
*** Amusingly, McGinnis was created by [[Spinoff Babies|the opposite kind]] of [[Executive Meddling]], as WB executives wanted a "[[High School AU|Batman in high school!]]" show to connect with the kids. The writers took one look at the concept and decided that obeying it would do bad things to their ''[[Batman the Animated Series (Animation)|Batman the Animated Series]]'' continuity. [[Loophole Abuse|Then they noticed that at no point did the pitch specify that Batman had to be "Bruce Wayne"]].
*** Amusingly, McGinnis was created by [[Spinoff Babies|the opposite kind]] of [[Executive Meddling]], as WB executives wanted a "[[High School AU|Batman in high school!]]" show to connect with the kids. The writers took one look at the concept and decided that obeying it would do bad things to their ''[[Batman: The Animated Series (Animation)|Batman the Animated Series]]'' continuity. [[Loophole Abuse|Then they noticed that at no point did the pitch specify that Batman had to be "Bruce Wayne"]].
* [[Superman]] was killed, and replaced by four guys: [[Badass Normal|Man]] [[Powered Armor|of Steel]], [[Cloning Blues|Superboy]], [[Cybernetics Eat Your Soul|Cyborg]] [[Evil Counterpart|Superman]], and [[Nineties Anti Hero|Last Son]] [[Legacy Character|of Krypton]] (Eradicator). Of these, Cyborg turned out to be [[Evil All Along]], and Eradicator was basically a [[Darker and Edgier]] version of the genuine article.
* [[Superman]] was killed, and replaced by four guys: [[Badass Normal|Man]] [[Powered Armor|of Steel]], [[Cloning Blues|Superboy]], [[Cybernetics Eat Your Soul|Cyborg]] [[Evil Counterpart|Superman]], and [[Nineties Anti Hero|Last Son]] [[Legacy Character|of Krypton]] (Eradicator). Of these, Cyborg turned out to be [[Evil All Along]], and Eradicator was basically a [[Darker and Edgier]] version of the genuine article.
** And [[Steel]] was a complete ''inversion'' of this; if anything, he was [[Up to Eleven|even more heroic than the original]]. Also, unlike the other three, Steel admitted from the start he wasn't really Superman, but that he was trying to represent the spirit of what Superman stood for.
** And [[Steel]] was a complete ''inversion'' of this; if anything, he was [[Up to Eleven|even more heroic than the original]]. Also, unlike the other three, Steel admitted from the start he wasn't really Superman, but that he was trying to represent the spirit of what Superman stood for.
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* [[Wonder Woman]] was forced to give up her name and costume because her mother had a vision of her death. Her place was taken by Artemis, but in the end it was she who was killed, not Diana.
* [[Wonder Woman]] was forced to give up her name and costume because her mother had a vision of her death. Her place was taken by Artemis, but in the end it was she who was killed, not Diana.
* Played straight in current [[Spider Girl|Spider-Girl]] adventures. {{spoiler|It looks like May we all know and love was beaten hard, or even killed by, Tombstone; and her crazy clone, April, has taken her place}}.
* Played straight in current [[Spider Girl|Spider-Girl]] adventures. {{spoiler|It looks like May we all know and love was beaten hard, or even killed by, Tombstone; and her crazy clone, April, has taken her place}}.
* [[Incredible Hulk (Comic Book)|Hulk]] has both subverted and played this trope straight at the same time. After ''[[World War Hulk]]'', with the Hulk {{spoiler|imprisoned by the army}}, his series was taken over by Hercules and a new series was launched with a mysterious Red Hulk as the central character. Hercules subverted the trope quickly, proving he's anything ''but'' an [[Anti Hero|Anti-Hero]], while Red Hulk played it straight, acting like a ''total dick'' and {{spoiler|making Hulk lose his powers}}.
* [[Incredible Hulk (Comic Book)|Hulk]] has both subverted and played this trope straight at the same time. After ''[[World War Hulk]]'', with the Hulk {{spoiler|imprisoned by the army}}, his series was taken over by Hercules and a new series was launched with a mysterious Red Hulk as the central character. Hercules subverted the trope quickly, proving he's anything ''but'' an [[Anti-Hero]], while Red Hulk played it straight, acting like a ''total dick'' and {{spoiler|making Hulk lose his powers}}.
** Earlier on in the 80s this trope popped up, with the normal destructive but rarely malicious green Hulk being replaced by an amoral jerkass grey Hulk named Joe Fixit. Green Hulk is an anti-hero to begin with but the trope still stands as Joe Fixit is several notches down the scale. The twist is Joe Fixit is just another of Bruce Banner's repressed personalities.
** Earlier on in the 80s this trope popped up, with the normal destructive but rarely malicious green Hulk being replaced by an amoral jerkass grey Hulk named Joe Fixit. Green Hulk is an anti-hero to begin with but the trope still stands as Joe Fixit is several notches down the scale. The twist is Joe Fixit is just another of Bruce Banner's repressed personalities.
* In an inverse of this trope, [[Green Lantern (Comic Book)|Green Lantern]] Hal Jordan inexplicably [[Face Heel Turn|turned evil]] during the ''Emerald Twilight'' arc and the role of "original hero" as described by the intro was played by his replacement Kyle Rayner.
* In an inverse of this trope, [[Green Lantern (Comic Book)|Green Lantern]] Hal Jordan inexplicably [[Face Heel Turn|turned evil]] during the ''Emerald Twilight'' arc and the role of "original hero" as described by the intro was played by his replacement Kyle Rayner.
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** Like ''Knightfall'' this was apparently a deliberate in your face. And the same thing pretty much is going on now with [[Bucky Barnes]] as Captain America. That said, Steve went on record in ''Heroic Age: Superheroes'' that there's not a man out there more fit to wear those colors than James Buchanan Barnes.
** Like ''Knightfall'' this was apparently a deliberate in your face. And the same thing pretty much is going on now with [[Bucky Barnes]] as Captain America. That said, Steve went on record in ''Heroic Age: Superheroes'' that there's not a man out there more fit to wear those colors than James Buchanan Barnes.
*** It should be noted that during Bucky's tenure as Cap, that while he did use his gun and his costume did invoke a [[Darker and Edgier]] angle<ref>the costume had far more black than the red, white, and blue.</ref>, the main conflict for Bucky was whether or not he could do right by Steve Rogers as Captain America. As such, Bucky would act as best of a hero as he possibly could during that amount of time as Cap.
*** It should be noted that during Bucky's tenure as Cap, that while he did use his gun and his costume did invoke a [[Darker and Edgier]] angle<ref>the costume had far more black than the red, white, and blue.</ref>, the main conflict for Bucky was whether or not he could do right by Steve Rogers as Captain America. As such, Bucky would act as best of a hero as he possibly could during that amount of time as Cap.
* In a [[Video Game]] example, the introduction of K' in ''[[The King of Fighters (Video Game)|The King of Fighters]] '99'', blatant attempt at [[Darker and Edgier]], had a very mixed reception. Unlike most examples however, he received enough [[Character Development]] to [[Rescued From the Scrappy Heap|save him]] from [[Replacement Scrappy|the heap,]] and is now a [[Ensemble Darkhorse|fan favourite.]] Then SNK went even ''[[It Got Worse|further]]'' down the line with [[Villain Protagonist]] Ash Crimson in the next arc. The reception was even ''[[Creators Pet|more]]'' [[Germans Love David Hasselhoff|mixed]].
* In a [[Video Game]] example, the introduction of K' in ''[[The King of Fighters (Video Game)|The King of Fighters]] '99'', blatant attempt at [[Darker and Edgier]], had a very mixed reception. Unlike most examples however, he received enough [[Character Development]] to [[Rescued From the Scrappy Heap|save him]] from [[Replacement Scrappy|the heap,]] and is now a [[Ensemble Darkhorse|fan favourite.]] Then SNK went even ''[[It Got Worse|further]]'' down the line with [[Villain Protagonist]] Ash Crimson in the next arc. The reception was even ''[[Creator's Pet|more]]'' [[Germans Love David Hasselhoff|mixed]].
* [[The Mighty Thor]] was replaced by Thunderstrike in [[The Nineties]], who was quite literally just another version of the original.
* [[The Mighty Thor]] was replaced by Thunderstrike in [[The Nineties]], who was quite literally just another version of the original.
** This was a bit of a subversion, as Thor was much more willing to kill a dangerous foe than Thunderstrike was. Thunderstrike did, however, look the part. (He came across as a dork when he tried to sound like an anti-hero). Not only that, but Thunderstrike had previously ''been'' Thor himself.
** This was a bit of a subversion, as Thor was much more willing to kill a dangerous foe than Thunderstrike was. Thunderstrike did, however, look the part. (He came across as a dork when he tried to sound like an anti-hero). Not only that, but Thunderstrike had previously ''been'' Thor himself.
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* In [http://johnnysaturn.com Johnny Saturn], the Johnny Saturn I (John Underhall) retires, and he is soon replaced by Johnny Saturn II (Greg Buchanan). Many of the characters in [http://johnnysaturn.com Johnny Saturn]are ''legacy'' characters.
* In [http://johnnysaturn.com Johnny Saturn], the Johnny Saturn I (John Underhall) retires, and he is soon replaced by Johnny Saturn II (Greg Buchanan). Many of the characters in [http://johnnysaturn.com Johnny Saturn]are ''legacy'' characters.
* After Horatio Hellpop gave up the mantle of [[Nexus]] it was taken by Stan Korivitsky. Sadly, the mission of killing worst murderers was too much for him, and he quickly snapped and turned worse than those he was supposed to kill. That forced Horatio to take back Nexus powers and kill him.
* After Horatio Hellpop gave up the mantle of [[Nexus]] it was taken by Stan Korivitsky. Sadly, the mission of killing worst murderers was too much for him, and he quickly snapped and turned worse than those he was supposed to kill. That forced Horatio to take back Nexus powers and kill him.
* [[Ghost Rider]] has an odd example. He is already an [[Anti Hero]] but in the nineties, a character named ''Vengeance'' showed up who was supposed to be a [[Darker and Edgier]] version of a character that was already the epitome of [[Darker and Edgier]]. A new Vengeance has since appeared -- as a villain. And the de-powered original Vengeance seems to be a pretty nice guy these days.
* [[Ghost Rider]] has an odd example. He is already an [[Anti-Hero]] but in the nineties, a character named ''Vengeance'' showed up who was supposed to be a [[Darker and Edgier]] version of a character that was already the epitome of [[Darker and Edgier]]. A new Vengeance has since appeared -- as a villain. And the de-powered original Vengeance seems to be a pretty nice guy these days.
** And now Johnny got tricked into passing his power onto new host. [[Word of God]] already confirmed that it's gonna bite him in the butt once he'll realize that new Ghost Rider may have few loose screws and he had just created another [[Anti Hero Substitute]] for himself.
** And now Johnny got tricked into passing his power onto new host. [[Word of God]] already confirmed that it's gonna bite him in the butt once he'll realize that new Ghost Rider may have few loose screws and he had just created another [[Anti Hero Substitute]] for himself.
** Also, considering he's a [[Legacy Character]], it makes sense that he is replaced with a new host every now and then.
** Also, considering he's a [[Legacy Character]], it makes sense that he is replaced with a new host every now and then.
* Intentionally done again in the '90s, when the [[Fantastic Four]] were [[Comic Book Death|presumed dead]], and [[Spider Man]], [[X Men|Wolverine]], [[The Hulk]], and [[Ghost Rider]] took their places, swearing to avenge the heroes' deaths. Only three of the four were really [[Anti Hero|Anti Heroes]], but the extremely ill-suited-for-eachother group fought amongst themselves so much and were so bad at emulating the FF's legendary teamwork that Spidey was pretty much ineffectual in getting them to shape up and the whole team made the Fantastic Four's dysfunctional family dynamics look incredibly well-adjusted by comparison.
* Intentionally done again in the '90s, when the [[Fantastic Four]] were [[Comic Book Death|presumed dead]], and [[Spider Man]], [[X Men|Wolverine]], [[The Hulk]], and [[Ghost Rider]] took their places, swearing to avenge the heroes' deaths. Only three of the four were really [[Anti-Hero|Anti Heroes]], but the extremely ill-suited-for-eachother group fought amongst themselves so much and were so bad at emulating the FF's legendary teamwork that Spidey was pretty much ineffectual in getting them to shape up and the whole team made the Fantastic Four's dysfunctional family dynamics look incredibly well-adjusted by comparison.
* Happened to [[The Flash]] with [[Fan Nickname|Dark Flash]] a mysterious characted that turned out to be an alternate universe version of Wally that didn't allow himself to cross the speed threshhold necessary to save Linda Park in a previous story. He wore a darker outfit and was a little more brutal.
* Happened to [[The Flash]] with [[Fan Nickname|Dark Flash]] a mysterious characted that turned out to be an alternate universe version of Wally that didn't allow himself to cross the speed threshhold necessary to save Linda Park in a previous story. He wore a darker outfit and was a little more brutal.
* The [[The Adjectival Superhero|Irredeemable]] Ant-Man, Eric O'Grady, is this to the other [[Ant Man]], Hank Pym <ref> not without his own problems- see [[Never Live It Down]]</ref>. O'Grady got his costume from stealing one of Pym's, and is an often lecherous, cowardly, and amoral man who nonetheless has some positive traits and often wishes he was a better person.
* The [[The Adjectival Superhero|Irredeemable]] Ant-Man, Eric O'Grady, is this to the other [[Ant Man]], Hank Pym <ref> not without his own problems- see [[Never Live It Down]]</ref>. O'Grady got his costume from stealing one of Pym's, and is an often lecherous, cowardly, and amoral man who nonetheless has some positive traits and often wishes he was a better person.
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** It should also be noted that Rhodes replaced Tony as Iron Man for a couple of years due to Stark's alcoholism so in a way, it was the inversion of this trope.
** It should also be noted that Rhodes replaced Tony as Iron Man for a couple of years due to Stark's alcoholism so in a way, it was the inversion of this trope.
* Inverted for [[Spider Man]] in [[The Clone Saga]]. While Peter Parker went through a [[Darker and Edgier]] character arc, Ben Reilly was introduced as a [[Lighter and Softer]] Spider-Man with the goal of putting Peter Parker, Mary Jane, and [[Spider Girl|their daughter]] [[Put On a Bus|on a bus.]]
* Inverted for [[Spider Man]] in [[The Clone Saga]]. While Peter Parker went through a [[Darker and Edgier]] character arc, Ben Reilly was introduced as a [[Lighter and Softer]] Spider-Man with the goal of putting Peter Parker, Mary Jane, and [[Spider Girl|their daughter]] [[Put On a Bus|on a bus.]]
* When one [[Buffy the Vampire Slayer|Slayer]] dies another girl is called forward to take her place. Well Buffy did die and despite being revived is replaced by Kendra, a [[Knight Templar]] whose sole focus is on hunting and killing vampires regardless of who they are. When she died she was replaced by Faith, very much an [[Anti Hero]] before, during and after her [[Face Heel Turn]].
* When one [[Buffy the Vampire Slayer|Slayer]] dies another girl is called forward to take her place. Well Buffy did die and despite being revived is replaced by Kendra, a [[Knight Templar]] whose sole focus is on hunting and killing vampires regardless of who they are. When she died she was replaced by Faith, very much an [[Anti-Hero]] before, during and after her [[Face Heel Turn]].


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