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** Though not necessarily game-breaking since it pertains to an end-game, extra-content boss, Ar Tonelico 2 had a boss that was virtually unbeatable because one of her moves would freeze the game and force a reset. The only way to prevent this was to beat her in one turn, preventing her from using it.
** Though not necessarily game-breaking since it pertains to an end-game, extra-content boss, Ar Tonelico 2 had a boss that was virtually unbeatable because one of her moves would freeze the game and force a reset. The only way to prevent this was to beat her in one turn, preventing her from using it.
* [[Genius Ditz]]: Lyner is very definitely [[Book Dumb]], something he is repeatedly harassed about throughout the game. He also mastered the basics of [[Item Crafting|Grathmelding]] in less than a day and by doing nothing else than following instructions, became the main source of everything the party uses throughout the game. By the third phase, the stuff he cooks up rivals or surpasses [[Lost Technology|First Era technology]], he is teaching Grathmelding to the one who created its basic principles centuries ago and his magnum opus ends up being a pocket-sized version of the gigantic building-sized power reactor that powers their entire civilization, which by the way doubles as a
* [[Genius Ditz]]: Lyner is very definitely [[Book Dumb]], something he is repeatedly harassed about throughout the game. He also mastered the basics of [[Item Crafting|Grathmelding]] in less than a day and by doing nothing else than following instructions, became the main source of everything the party uses throughout the game. By the third phase, the stuff he cooks up rivals or surpasses [[Lost Technology|First Era technology]], he is teaching Grathmelding to the one who created its basic principles centuries ago and his magnum opus ends up being a pocket-sized version of the gigantic building-sized power reactor that powers their entire civilization, which by the way doubles as a
* [[Genre Shift]]: Cosmosphere's take a shift towards more [[Visual Novel]]-type stories. And, usually, each level is an [[Out of Genre Experience]].
* [[Genre Shift]]: Cosmosphere's take a shift towards more [[Visual Novel]]-type stories. And, usually, each level is an [[Out-of-Genre Experience]].
* [[Getting Crap Past the Radar]]: Oh dear Lord, does it ever.
* [[Getting Crap Past the Radar]]: Oh dear Lord, does it ever.
* [[Girlish Pigtails]]: Young Misha
* [[Girlish Pigtails]]: Young Misha
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* [[Godiva Hair]]: {{spoiler|Mir.}}
* [[Godiva Hair]]: {{spoiler|Mir.}}
* [[Goggles Do Nothing]]: Krusche.
* [[Goggles Do Nothing]]: Krusche.
* [[Go Karting With Bowser]]: Happens in ''Elemia'', but you don't quite become aware of it until ''Metafalica''. {{spoiler|By Jakuri's own admission, the "Mir" inside Shurelia's corny magical girl love story was not an avatar, but rather the real one just playing along with the game, which she herself had scripted.}} So, at the time Lyner was trekking through the entire tower to find a way to save ominous and terrifying Mother Virus Mir, {{spoiler|Mir herself was content playing a retarded video game with Shurelia}}. Bizarrely, it actually makes some sense in hindsight, as the two were friends and, most of her nefarious plots having failed completely, she wasn't doing anything at the moment.
* [[Go-Karting With Bowser]]: Happens in ''Elemia'', but you don't quite become aware of it until ''Metafalica''. {{spoiler|By Jakuri's own admission, the "Mir" inside Shurelia's corny magical girl love story was not an avatar, but rather the real one just playing along with the game, which she herself had scripted.}} So, at the time Lyner was trekking through the entire tower to find a way to save ominous and terrifying Mother Virus Mir, {{spoiler|Mir herself was content playing a retarded video game with Shurelia}}. Bizarrely, it actually makes some sense in hindsight, as the two were friends and, most of her nefarious plots having failed completely, she wasn't doing anything at the moment.
** To top it off, {{spoiler|the only remaining bit of bad blood Jakuri has against Lyner is completely unrelated to him stopping her century-long plans: She's angry about him rewriting the ending to her game.}}
** To top it off, {{spoiler|the only remaining bit of bad blood Jakuri has against Lyner is completely unrelated to him stopping her century-long plans: She's angry about him rewriting the ending to her game.}}
*** {{spoiler|Well, she also dislikes him for being an [[Idiot Hero|idiot]].}}
*** {{spoiler|Well, she also dislikes him for being an [[Idiot Hero|idiot]].}}
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* [[Really Seven Hundred Years Old]]: Shurelia {{spoiler|[[Word of God|(Eoria)]]}}, Frelia, and Tyria, as these three are the Origin Reyvateils, and thus, are as old as the towers they administrate. Shun's getting on in age too. {{spoiler|Mir is also coming up on her four hundredth birthday - her life presumably extended by being locked in the Binary Field for a few of those centuries.}}
* [[Really Seven Hundred Years Old]]: Shurelia {{spoiler|[[Word of God|(Eoria)]]}}, Frelia, and Tyria, as these three are the Origin Reyvateils, and thus, are as old as the towers they administrate. Shun's getting on in age too. {{spoiler|Mir is also coming up on her four hundredth birthday - her life presumably extended by being locked in the Binary Field for a few of those centuries.}}
* [[Rebel Prince]]: Lyner is the future ruler of Platina, although [[Rebel Prince|not if he has anything to say about it.]] {{spoiler|And he succeeds in every route except possibly Shurelia's.}}
* [[Rebel Prince]]: Lyner is the future ruler of Platina, although [[Rebel Prince|not if he has anything to say about it.]] {{spoiler|And he succeeds in every route except possibly Shurelia's.}}
* [[Red Eyes Take Warning]]: Mir
* [[Red Eyes, Take Warning]]: Mir
* [[Red String of Fate]]: As an equipable accessory that raises DP gains after battle (the String of Binding, although supposedly raises the trust between a vanguard and the Reyvateil he's protecting at the moment). However, its effects still kick in, no matter who in the active party has it equipped.
* [[Red String of Fate]]: As an equipable accessory that raises DP gains after battle (the String of Binding, although supposedly raises the trust between a vanguard and the Reyvateil he's protecting at the moment). However, its effects still kick in, no matter who in the active party has it equipped.
** Lyner's ignorance to its meaning embarrassed Shurelia. His suggestion to use it to enhance Radolf and his "unity" '''''freaked her out.'''''
** Lyner's ignorance to its meaning embarrassed Shurelia. His suggestion to use it to enhance Radolf and his "unity" '''''freaked her out.'''''
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** Mir {{spoiler|takes the scripts that she writes a little bit too seriously in fact she can forgive humanity for all the pain they caused to her, but not Lyner's sin of ruining her script.}}
** Mir {{spoiler|takes the scripts that she writes a little bit too seriously in fact she can forgive humanity for all the pain they caused to her, but not Lyner's sin of ruining her script.}}
* [[Shorttank]]: Krusche, although she doesn't get much sexual tension in, due to not being a Reyvateil, and hence, not a romantic option. (Something she lightly pouts about at one point, asking if Lyner'd be in love with her if she ''were'' a Reyvateil. {{spoiler|She gets paired with Jack/Harmonica.}})
* [[Shorttank]]: Krusche, although she doesn't get much sexual tension in, due to not being a Reyvateil, and hence, not a romantic option. (Something she lightly pouts about at one point, asking if Lyner'd be in love with her if she ''were'' a Reyvateil. {{spoiler|She gets paired with Jack/Harmonica.}})
* [[Shout Out]]: The end of Misha's and Aurica's Cosmospheres.
* [[Shout-Out]]: The end of Misha's and Aurica's Cosmospheres.
* [[Shrinking Violet]]: Aurica.
* [[Shrinking Violet]]: Aurica.
* [[Smug Snake]]: The majority of the villains are this, making it all the more fun to slap them around. {{spoiler|Bishop Falss and Bourd Rade from the first game}} are [[Egregious]] examples.
* [[Smug Snake]]: The majority of the villains are this, making it all the more fun to slap them around. {{spoiler|Bishop Falss and Bourd Rade from the first game}} are [[Egregious]] examples.
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* [[Warrior Prince]]: Lyner.
* [[Warrior Prince]]: Lyner.
* [[Warrior Therapist]]: Lyner. It's not just the Cosmospheres. {{spoiler|As of the second game, Mir still doesn't know what hit her.}}
* [[Warrior Therapist]]: Lyner. It's not just the Cosmospheres. {{spoiler|As of the second game, Mir still doesn't know what hit her.}}
* [[Welcome Back Traitor]]: Welcome back {{spoiler|Ayatane, the guy who technically was the reason why everything turns crazy in Phase 2.}}
* [[Welcome Back, Traitor]]: Welcome back {{spoiler|Ayatane, the guy who technically was the reason why everything turns crazy in Phase 2.}}
* [["Well Done, Son" Guy]]: Subverted by Lyner. It's not that he can't win Leard's favor, it's that he's actively refusing to do it, and doing something that makes Leard happy with him is one of the few things that actively annoys Lyner. This makes sense, given that most of the things that make Leard praise Lyner in the early game aren't very nice {{spoiler|and Lyner may resent him for what happened to Misha.}} In the scene where Leard finally says he's [[So Proud of You]], it's noteworthy that the other characters are far more excited about it than Lyner is. Apparently, the extent of Lyner's [[Character Development]] is not rejecting Leard's feelings: even when Lyner asks Leard to {{spoiler|help craft the hymn at the end of the game,}} it still feels as though Lyner is making the effort because Leard is his father, after all: their relationship is still rocky.
* [["Well Done, Son" Guy]]: Subverted by Lyner. It's not that he can't win Leard's favor, it's that he's actively refusing to do it, and doing something that makes Leard happy with him is one of the few things that actively annoys Lyner. This makes sense, given that most of the things that make Leard praise Lyner in the early game aren't very nice {{spoiler|and Lyner may resent him for what happened to Misha.}} In the scene where Leard finally says he's [[So Proud of You]], it's noteworthy that the other characters are far more excited about it than Lyner is. Apparently, the extent of Lyner's [[Character Development]] is not rejecting Leard's feelings: even when Lyner asks Leard to {{spoiler|help craft the hymn at the end of the game,}} it still feels as though Lyner is making the effort because Leard is his father, after all: their relationship is still rocky.
* [[White-Haired Pretty Boy]]: Ayatane.
* [[White-Haired Pretty Boy]]: Ayatane.