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{{quote|"''If you're going to take [[Big Bad|me]] on, [[Lex Luthor|son]], you're going to have to bring your game up to a whole different level.''"|'''Lionel Luthor''', ''[[Smallville]]''}}
 
Some fathers just really don't do well by their kids, at all. Some are aloof, remote, and [["Well Done, Son" Guy|offer scant praise for their childrenschildren's achievements]]. Some expect their kids to act like adults from an early age and [["What the Hell?" Dad|offer no guidance whatsoever]]. Some will [[Parental Abandonment|abandon]] [[Disappeared Dad|their kids]]. Some will come to [[Parental Betrayal|betray their children at a crucial moment]]. Some are just downright [[Abusive Dad|abusive]]. Some will even go so far as to try [[Offing the Offspring]]. A few, however, will go the extra mile to take every action and every opportunity to foil their children's plans and ruin their lives and become an [['''Archnemesis Dad]]'''.
 
This trope is [[Exactly What It Says on the Tin]]: a father or father figure who also happens to be a prime candidate for the title of a character's [[Arch Enemy]]. He could be anywhere on the [[Sorting Algorithm of Evil]], but whether he's [[The Big Bad]], [[The Dragon]], or something else entirely, any story featuring him is likely to be emotionally charged at the least. Normally this will be a case of [[It's Personal]], and may well include offers of [[We Can Rule Together]], but not always: particularly cold-hearted fathers may declare [[I Have No Son]] and treat the child in question as just one more problem to be solved.
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This trope's [[Distaff Counterpart]] is the [[Evil Matriarch]]. The inversion is [[Antagonistic Offspring]]. See [[Evil Uncle]] for when it's not dad but his [[Cain and Abel|brother]] who goes out of his way to ruin your day.
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=== Non-Spoiler Examples: ===
 
=== Anime and Manga ===
* In ''[[Code Geass]]'' this is pretty much Emperor Charles zi Britannia's raison d'etre. He has children by 108 different wives and believes the best way to choose a successor to the throne is to pit them all against each other, encouraging backstabbing and assassination at every turn, [[Social Darwinist|so that the last one standing will be the strongest and most fit to lead.]] [[Prodigal Hero|Prodigal]] prince Lelouch blames the death of his mother and the crippling of his sister on the Emperor's ruthless parenting style, and he launches a worldwide [[La Résistance|rebellion]] against Brittania so he can put an end to this system of sibling rivalry forever. Though, for most of the series, the Emperor doesn't consider Lelouch much of a threat and takes a hands-off approach towards dealing with him.
* The Fourth Kazekage from [[Naruto]]. He [[Sealed Evil in a Can|placed a known dangerous tanuki-demon into his unborn child Gaara]] to create a [[Tyke Bomb]] for his ninja village. He used his own wife as a [[Human Sacrifice]] to complete the act, all (of course) without her consent. When he couldn't train the aforementioned [[Tyke Bomb]] to control his powers well, he [[Offing the Offspring|tries to kill Gaara]].
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=== Comic Books ===
* Inverted with ''[[Spider-Man]]''. His [[Arch Enemy]], the Green Goblin, is not this, but a major development of the last decade or so is that he more or less imagines he is, seeing Peter - a smart, brave, capable self-made man - as a better son than his own child, Harry. On an older level, Peter's search for a father figure is one of the underlying themes of the comic, and the idea that Osborn - as well as other enemies like Doctor Octopus - are twisted inversions of this has been around for a while.
** Played straight, however, during [[The Clone Saga]] with the mobster [[Noble Demon| Jimmy Six]] and his father [[The Don| Fortunado]], an [[Evil Versus Evil]] with Jimmy being [[A Lighter Shade of Black]].
** This is also played with in [[Ultimate Spider-Man]], where Osborn's military research (including pieces of Peter's parents' research) leads directly to Peter gaining his powers. And Miles Morales, the new Ultimate Spider-man, got his powers from a stolen spider from Osborn's lab. Osborn keeps unintentionally birthing spidermen.
* A similar situation exists between ''[[Batman]]'' and Ra's Al Ghul. He, too, sees Bruce almost like the son he never had, and he actually plans on making him both his heir and his son-in-law by marrying him to his daughter Talia, something both Bruce and Talia are seriously tempted to do.
** Played straight and then subverted in the ''Black Glove'' story arc, where it is implied that the eponymous villain is actually Bruce's dad Thomas, who was really an evil psychopath. Neither allegation turns out to be true, though the real Black Glove, one [[Complete Monster|Doctor Simon Hurt]], nonetheless claims to be Thomas Wayne to both Bruce and Alfred's face, even though both men obviously knew he wasn't. It is implied that Hurt is actually [[Satan]] himself, though for a moment Batman accuses him of being an actor who used to impersonate his father, which would make this yet another inversion. Hurt denies this and claimed to have killed said actor and ''wore his skin'' to a party. So it's a triple subversion, with Hurt being a guy pretending to be a guy who pretended to be Bruce Waynes dad, ''and'' pretending to be Bruce's Wayne's dad. Phew!
*** ''Return of Bruce Wayne'' suggests that Hurt ''is'' Dr Thomas Wayne. Just not ''[[Identical Grandson|that]]'' Dr Thomas Wayne...
* In ''[[Fables]]'', the Adversary is revealed to be {{spoiler|Geppeto}}, thereby making him {{spoiler|Pinnochio's}} [[Archnemesis Dad]]. Though, this is less explicit, because his son is conflicted about opposing his father explicitly.
* The android superhero [[Red Tornado]] and his creator T.O. Morrow have this dynamic. Several storylines revolve around Morrow's attempts to destroy/manipulate/reprogram his prodigal son.
* Hank Pym (aka Giant-Man/Ant-Man) and his creation, Ultron, have this relationship with a twist: the son is the villain and the father the hero. Ultron, in a classic case of [[AIA.I. Is a Crapshoot]], is a genocidal maniac bent on wiping all humanity from the face of the earth. Pym, of course, has informed him that this will happen over his dead body, and has spent years of his life foiling Ultron's schemes and destroying his various incarnations. [[Depending on the Writer]], Ultron is sometimes [[Big Bad Dad]] to his own artificial "son", The Vision, who was originally designed as [[The Mole]], but [[Becoming the Mask|Became the Mask]] and joined [[The Avengers (Comic Book)|The Avengers]], of which Pym is a founding member.
* The Pride in ''[[Runaways]]'' is made up of six pairs of [[Archnemesis Dad|Archnemesis Dads]] and [[Evil Matriarch|Evil Matriarchs]]s. In a mild subversion, The Pride honestly believe that they are doing the best they can for their children: by destroying the world and allowing the [[Bigger Bad|Gibborim]] to remake it, they will handing their children paradise. With [[The Mole|one exception]] the kids don't agree, and their interference ultimately leads to the deaths of all The Pride's members.
* At the end of the war between [[New Gods|New Genesis and Apokolips,]] rulers Highfather and Darkseid exchanged their baby sons as part of the peace treaty. Darkseid's son, Orion, was raised a hero (albeit one with anger issues), who plays this about as straight as possible, sometimes going after Darkseid even against the wishes of his adopted father.
* In ''[[All Fall Down]]'', we have IQ to his son, IQ Squared.
 
=== Film ===
 
== Film ==
* Bruce Banner's father, David, in the 2003 ''[[Hulk (film)|Hulk]]''. After performing dangerous tests on himself, some of it was passed on genetically when Bruce was conceived. He attempted to murder Bruce but failed, striking down his wife in the process. Thirty years later, following his release from prison, he tracks down Bruce and attempts to rebuild their relationship while {{spoiler|secretly plotting to drain Bruce's powers and alter-ego in order to rebuild his own decaying cellular structure and gain his revenge on the military}}. A very, very bad dude, though not without his sympathetic moments.
* Dreverhaven in the Dutch movie ''Character'' has such an antagonistic relationship with his son that said son is the prime suspect when Dreverhaven is murdered.
 
 
=== Literature ===
* In ''I Am A Genius of Unspeakable Evil and I Want to Be Your Class President'', Oliver Watson describes his father as his "archnemesis (a.k.a. Daddy)".
* One could hardly be a worse father than Georges Leon, the quasi-immortal gambler of [[Tim Powers]]' ''Last Call.'' He schemes to live on by [[Grand Theft Me|stealing other people's bodies]], including that of his son and the book's hero, Scott Crane. {{spoiler|Scott's older brother Richard has already fallen prey to Georges.}}
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* Ulcis of ''[[The Deepgate Codex]]'' tried to hang his daughter Rebecca {{spoiler|aka Carnival}} shortly after she was born, then gave her to his henchmen to be raped and tortured. Years later, when she and several others descend into the Abyss, he takes a perverse delight in tormenting her with the memory of what happened, trying to break her all over again.
* [[The Millennium Trilogy]] has {{spoiler|[[Diabolical Mastermind|Alexander Zalachenko]] (aka "Zala") and his daughter, [[Dark Action Girl|Lisbeth Salander]]. How deep does it go? Lisbeth, as a 12-year-old, tried to burn Zala alive in his car with a homemade Molotov cocktail, and ''she's the good guy''.}}
* Pratchett's [[The Truth]]: William de Worde saw his father this way, even before it was revealed that {{Spoiler|de Worde senior had hired the [[Those_Two_Bad_Guys|two bad guys]] that tried to kill William}}.
 
 
=== Live-Action TV ===
* John Locke's father on ''[[Lost]]'' abandoned him until well into his adult life, at which point he {{spoiler|stole his kidney}}, {{spoiler|re-abandoned him}}, {{spoiler|used him as a courier}}, {{spoiler|abandoned him again}}, and {{spoiler|pushed him out of an 8-story window}}.
** {{spoiler|And even then, Locke was too much of a wuss to actually kill him when he had the chance}}.
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* C.G.B. Spender of [[The X-Files]] to both of his sons. He shoots one of them and attempts to foil the other's plans at every turn (and steal his brain, at one point). Not exactly Father of the Year.
* In [[El Internado]], Iván's father is the bad guy the main characters know the best, because he is the one who delivers the threats {{spoiler|and the medicines}}.
* [[Evil Versus Evil]] example in ''[[Power Rangers Zeo]]''; King Mondo's firstborn (first built?) son Prince Gasket does not get along with his father at all, mostly because he eloped with and married Princess Archerina, the daughter of Mondo's [[Arch Enemy]]. Gasket tried to assume control of the Machine Empire during the time Mondo was believed dead, claiming to be Heir Apparent (despite Mondo having disowned him) but in the end turned out to be a [[Dirty Coward]] when Mondo returned, fleeing rather than face him and never returning.
 
=== Mythology ===
 
== Mythology ==
* [[Satan Is Good|Satan]] and [[God Is Evil|God]] are sometimes portrayed this way.
* [[Classical Mythology]]:
** InThe Greek mythology,titan Cronos had his children fed to him in order to ensure that a prophecy which stated one of his sons would overthrow him would never come to pass. Until Cronos wife fed a stone to Cronos instead of baby Zeus. Zeus then proceeded to free his brothers and sisters from Cronos stomach and promptly kicked Cronos ass.
** ''Cronos's'' father Uranus (the sky) wasn't much better. He feared and hated all of his children so much that he forced them back into Gaia (the earth). Naturally, being forced to keep ''all'' of her full grown children inside her at once pissed Gaia off so much that she helped her son Cronos, the youngest and boldest Titan, get revenge on dear ol' dad. She forged a sickle which Cronos used to ''castrate his own father'' when Uranus was in the mood for some earth lovin'.
*** In some versions of myth he did not trapped and "was not in the mood" but rather hadn't stopped it in the first place.
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*** This is despite the fact that the closest relative of his was either Zeus' great-nephew or his second cousin (Achilles' mother was Thetis the sea nymph, whose father was either Poseidon, Zeus' brother, or Oceanus, Zeus' uncle). Although most of the heroes did have some percentage of divine blood, it was really no more than just about any prominent person would have.
**** Zeus's son Sarpedon dies fighting for the Trojans, but he seems to be genuinely upset. And Aeneas, the one surviving Trojan, is Zeus's grandson in some versions of the myth. Of course, [[It Got Worse|seeing what happens to Aeneas afterwards...]]
** Zeus and Poseidon were unique in that they ''averted'' this trope. While they didn't do much in the way of actual parenting, they went out of their way to give gifts and support to their demigod progeny. (Possibly, they don't want what happened to Uranus and Cronos to happen to ''them''.) Poseidon in particular was a [[Papa Wolf]] to his son Polyphemus and made [[Odyssey|Odysseus' journey]] home a living nightmare for blinding his son.
 
=== Tabletop Games ===
* ''[[Dungeons & Dragons]]''
** In the twisted [[Social Darwinism]] politics of the Nine Hells, each and every one of the Lords of the Nine would ''love'' a chance to overthrow Asmodeus and take his place as King of Hell; Glasya, his own daughter and Lord of the Sixth, is no different. As Glasya told the [[The Archmage| Archmage Mordenkainen]] (one of the few mortals that ''any'' planar ruler, Archdevils included, consider an equal), "Of course I love my father! Without him, who would I strive against?"
** Drow elves. ''All'' of their leaders likely assassinated both their parents or tricked someone else into doing so. Drow parents actually expect their children to turn against them, and many would be disappointed if they did not. A drow who shows no treacherous behavior as a child likely won't survive to be a teenager. [[Social Darwinism|That's how drow are.]]
** Ironically, Lolth herself has ''two'' children who are her enemies, Vhaeraun (drow god of thieves, patron of male drow) and Eilistraee (drow goddess of freedom and the arts, patron of good drow). Unfortunately, Vhaeraun and Eilistraee [[Cain and Abel|despise each other just as much]]; each has tried to form a united alliance against their mother, but both will only do so under their own terms, so it seems unlikely.
 
=== VideogamesVideo Games ===
* [[Tekken|Every generation of the Mishima clan starting with Heihachi has this issue]]. Jinpachi was a nice enough guy, but Heihachi hated him anyways, so I guess you could count him too if you wanted. In fact, pretty much the entire main plot of the [[Tekken]] series exists because the Mishimas all hate and fight their fathers [[He Who Fights Monsters|until they turn corrupt themselves]].
* In ''[[Psychonauts]]'', the final boss of Raz and {{spoiler|Coach Oleander}}'s minds are their grotesque antagonistic fathers. In Raz's case, {{spoiler|[[Just for Pun|it's all in his head]] -- his dad shows up and [[Papa Wolf|helps him defeat the monster]]}}.
* Jecht from ''[[Final Fantasy X]]'' is an [[Abusive Dad|abusive]], [[The Alcoholic|alcoholic]] [[Jerk Jock]] of a dad. The nemesis relationship between himself and his son Tidus was heightened by the fact that both played the same sport, and Jecht went for the [[Drill Sergeant Nasty]] method of teaching and was too vain to admit his son might ever be anywhere near as good as him. Later, {{spoiler|he was transformed into the [[Eldritch Abomination]] that terrorizes the entire world. Surprisingly, the trope is somewhat subverted, because Jecht becomes increasingly sympathetic as the game goes on, especially as Tidus comes to realizes that some of his [[Freudian Excuse|Freudian]] [[Oedipus Complex|Issues]] are his own problems and not his father's fault}}.
* In [[Blaz BlueBlazBlue]], one of the main villains of the game is Carl's father and personal antagonist Relius Clover, who turned Carl's sister into the machine known as Nirvana. {{spoiler|Relius used the knowledge from that experiment to make a new and improved version of Nirvana, harvesting Carl's mother in the process. When Carl finally finds and confronts him in Continuum Shift's story mode, Relius [[Offing the Offspring|tries to kill him]] for [[Calling the Old Man Out|calling him out]]}}. Needless to say, they aren't on good terms.
* This happens to Tiltyu and Lex in ''[[Fire Emblem Jugdral|Fire Emblem: Genealogy of the Holy War]]'', since their fathers Leptor and Langobalt are members of a conspiracy led by {{spoiler|Alvis. Or better said, by Manfloy from the Lopto Sect}}.
* For a series built on parent / creator issues, it's surprising that ''[[Mass Effect]]'' doesn't have more examples.
** Urdnot Wrex's father, Jarrod, though Wrex killed him long before the game started.
** Miranda Lawson's father is obsessed with creating the perfect legacy through [[Designer Babies]]. We don't now how many he's gone through, but Miranda wasn't the first one he made, just the first he "kept" - and he was already working on a replacement for her when she was in her teens. She escaped, taking her clone baby sister Oriana with her. Miranda's efforts to keep Oriana out of her father's reach make up the bulk of her character arc.
* In the ''[[Castlevania]]'' franchise, Alucard revolts against his father - as in, Dracula - and sides with the Belmonts.
* ''[[World of Warcraft]]''; in expansion 8.2, Prince Erazmin leads the [[La Résistance|the Rustbold Resistance]] on Mechagon against his cruel - [[The Caligula| and clearly insane - father]], King Mechagon.
* Galek, the starter orc Champion from ''[[Raid: Shadow Legends]]''. As [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H32dvyCVkfk this cinematic shows], he had... ''serious'' issues with his father.
 
=== Web Original ===
 
== Web Original ==
* [[Inverted Trope|Inverted]] on [[Gaia Online]]; {{spoiler|Labtech X}} is an Archnemesis ''Son'' ([[Cloning Blues|sort of]]).
* In [[Less Than Three Comics|LessThanThreeComics]]' Brat Pack, Firestorm's father abused him through his entire life, but the rest of the world only knows him as Napalm, one of America's greatest superheroes.
 
=== Western Animation ===
* A gender-flipped example and overlapping with [[Has Two Mommies]] (with both Mommies qualifying) as the archnemesis, [https://harleyquinn.fandom.com/wiki/Neytiri Neytiri] from ''[[Harley Quinn (TV series)|Harley Quinn]]''. While Neytiri seems like the greater evil (having helped {{spoiler|Robin}} enslave humanity in the post-apocalyptic future) she does seem to have had a bad upbringing due to Harley and Ivy adhering to "boundaries" while maintaining a [[Dating Catwoman]] relationship. Harley and Ivy swear to be better parents should they manage to [[Set Right What Once Was Wrong]].
 
=== [[Luke, I Am Your Father|Surprise Twist Fathers]] (here be spoilers): ===
 
== Anime and Manga ==
* The [[Big Bad]] of ''[[Tenjho Tenge]]'' is [[The Hero|Souichiro Nagi's]] father Sohaku. The guy stole his ex-wife's (Souichiro's beloved mother) eye for its power and chopped off her arm when she tried to stop him and later implanted his ''own'' eye into Souichiro as part of his plan to [[Grand Theft Me|take over Souichiro's body and powers]]. That's not even getting into his other victims -- it's a long list.
 
=== Anime and Manga ===
* The [[Big Bad]] of ''[[Tenjho Tenge]]'' is [[The Hero|Souichiro Nagi's]] father Sohaku. The guy stole his ex-wife's (Souichiro's beloved mother) eye for its power and chopped off her arm when she tried to stop him and later implanted his ''own'' eye into Souichiro as part of his plan to [[Grand Theft Me|take over Souichiro's body and powers]]. That's not even getting into his other victims -- itvictims—it's a long list.
* In ''[[One Piece]]'', {{spoiler|Sanji despises his lowlife scum of a father, Vinsmoke Judge, whose crimes include: experimenting on his wife's womb to make his children emotionless killing machines (forcing Sora to take drugs to save them, only saving Sanji), abusing Sanji (calling him "weak"), and forcing him into an [[Arranged Marriage]] by threatening his loved ones. It was no surprise that Judge was a [[Dirty Coward]] who ends up begging for his life when threatened (showcasing him as a [[Hypocrite]]), to the point his own children tell him to stop whining and accept his fate, only to be saved by Sanji himself. Sanji coldly tells him that Zeff - his mentor and the man he regards as his ''true'' father - would be disappointed at him for leaving a blood relative to die, and makes it clear to Judge that he ''never'' wants to see him again.}}
 
=== Film ===
* [[Star Wars|Darth Vader]] is an archetypical example toward both Luke and Leia, though he does, eventually, [[Redemption Equals Death|get better]].
 
 
=== VideogamesVideo Games ===
* {{spoiler|Andrew Ryan}} from ''[[BioShock]]'', but it comes as a surprise to him too and he stops trying to kill you when he finds out.
* [[I Wanna Be the Guy|The Guy]].
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* [[Xenogears]] has a few of these.
** {{spoiler|Miang, revealed to be the mother of}} ''{{spoiler|all humanity}},'' {{spoiler|is also the story's [[Big Bad]]. And as a [[Body Surf|BodySurfer]] who can awaken in any human woman, one of Miang's incarnations was Fei's own mother Karen. Fei and Karen were not technically adversaries, but Miang's consciousness was in control most of the time. Karen resurfaced in the end to be a [[Heroic Sacrifice]] to save young Fei's life. Miang simply surfed to another new body somewhere else in the world}}.
** {{spoiler|Fei's father got some of this too. Grahf, a mysterious and dark adversary of Fei for most of the game, is not only actually}} ''{{spoiler|himself}}'' {{spoiler|from a previous life incarnation who survives as a [[Body Surf|BodySurfer]], but it's Fei's own father Kahn who turns out to have been Grahf's host for years already. Though Kahn and Fei are also not technically adversaries, Kahn does all he can just to stay in control of his own body, though Kahn appeared to have even more periods of useful self-control than Karen did}}.
** {{spoiler|Rico's archnemesis Kaiser Sigmund is actually his father, and}} ''{{spoiler|neither of them knew they were related}}.''}}
* In [[Jade Empire]], {{spoiler|not only is Master Li your character's father figure, it's also possible to find out that he's Dawn Star's father. In a subversion, absolutely nothing changes with his reactions to Dawn Star}}.
* {{spoiler|Nergal}} is this for {{spoiler|Ninian and Nils}} in ''[[Fire Emblem Elibe|Fire Emblem: Blazing Sword]]''.
** {{spoiler|Ashnard}} was this for {{spoiler|Soren}} in ''[[Fire Emblem Tellius|Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance]]''. He never does find out, though.
 
 
=== WebcomicsWeb Comics ===
* In ''[[The Order of the Stick|Order of the Stick]],'' Tarquin ''wants'' this for himself and [[Mad Dictators Handsome Son|Elan]] in a bizarre way. He clearly cares about his son and would like him to rule with him, but since Elan won't ignore his atrocities [[Genre Savvy]] Tarquin figures that them eventually fighting to the death will at least make an excellent story that could have them live forever in legends. Elan is... [[Heroic BSOD|somewhat less keen on this plan]].
** Tarquin and his other son, [[Evil Twin|Nale]] seem to also share this dynamic in an [[Evil vs. Evil]] way. They were also former allies, but Nale seems to have betrayed Tarquin at some point, and the two hated each others methods (Nale being [[Contractual Genre Blindness|Contractually Genre Blind]] and always eager to show his superiority). {{spoiler|Tarquin eventually resolved this by killing Nale himself.}}
 
=== Web Original ===
* ''[[SCP Foundation]]''; many stories about SCP-999 claim it is a prophesied champion that will one day oppose and defeat [[God of Evil| the Scarlet King]], its cruel and genocidal father. For now, though, SCP-999 (a happy, cute, benevolent creature who loves everyone) is still a baby, and the Foundation is doing its best to protect and nurture it for this eventual goal.
 
=== Western Animation ===
* In ''[[Codename: Kids Next Door]]'', {{spoiler|Numbuh One Nigel Uno}} is quite understandably freaked out when he realizes that [[Big Bad]] Grandfather is ''his'' grandfather. This also makes [[Arch Enemy|Father]] his [[Evil Uncle|uncle]]. Inverted with his father who was once the legendary KND operative Agent Zero.
* ''[[Avatar: The Last Airbender]]'': Zuko and Ozai. And during the eclipse, when Zuko renounces trying to be the son Ozai wants, Ozai reveals that he projected to kill him when he was not even in his teens.
* In ''[[Miraculous Ladybug]]'', {{spoiler|Hawk Moth is technically this to Cat Noir, although at present, neither knows the dual-identity of the other.}}
* In the fifth season of ''[[Samurai Jack]]'', {{spoiler|Ashi is the result of an unholy ritual where Aku's black magic impregnates a human cultist, making her his daughter; raised by her mother with the sole intent of being a living weapon against Jack, she eventually has a [[Heel Face Turn]] that results in her opposing - and defeating - her mother, and eventually helping Jack fulfill his goal and [[Grand Finale| slay Aku once and for all]].}}
 
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