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He's the strongest, toughest, manliest man in the sports team. He might hate gays and be vocal, or even violent about it. He will remind everybody that [[Have I Mentioned I Am Heterosexual Today?|he is completely, 100% straight]]. That is, during the daytime. When night falls, you can find him [[Where Everybody Knows Your Flame]] with the [[Club Kid|Club Kids]] and [[Gym Bunny|Gym Bunnies]]. He's the self-loathing gay guy who hides behind a macho façade.
He's the strongest, toughest, manliest man in the sports team. He might hate gays and be vocal, or even violent about it. He will remind everybody that [[Have I Mentioned I Am Heterosexual Today?|he is completely, 100% straight]]. That is, during the daytime. When night falls, you can find him [[Where Everybody Knows Your Flame]] with the [[Club Kid|Club Kids]] and [[Gym Bunny|Gym Bunnies]]. He's the self-loathing gay guy who hides behind a macho façade.


Perhaps the most common variant of [[You Are What You Hate]]. See also [[Gayngst]] if the character is particularly self-tormented about it. Not to be confused with [[Straight Gay]], who is out of the closet but just non-flamboyant, or [[Gym Bunny]] or [[Manly Gay]], also out of the closet and macho all the same.
Perhaps the most common variant of [[You Are What You Hate]]. See also [[Gayngst]] if the character is particularly self-tormented about it. Not to be confused with [[Invisible to Gaydar]], who is out of the closet but just non-flamboyant, or [[Gym Bunny]] or [[Manly Gay]], also out of the closet and macho all the same.


Polar opposite of [[Gay Bravado]] - acting gay to affirm your heterosexuality - unless it's a [[Double Subversion|double bluff]], of course.
Polar opposite of [[Gay Bravado]] - acting gay to affirm your heterosexuality - unless it's a [[Double Subversion|double bluff]], of course.
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* In the video game ''[[Bully (video game)|Bully]]'', one of the jocks, Kirby, behaves the same way, until you finally make out with him.
* In the video game ''[[Bully (video game)|Bully]]'', one of the jocks, Kirby, behaves the same way, until you finally make out with him.
** It should be noted that ''all'' of the cliques have one boy who will kiss Jimmy, if his respect with their gang is high enough. If it's not, even Cornelius, the Urkel-like gay nerd, will try to whup Jimmy's ass with a yardstick.
** It should be noted that ''all'' of the cliques have one boy who will kiss Jimmy, if his respect with their gang is high enough. If it's not, even Cornelius, the Urkel-like gay nerd, will try to whup Jimmy's ass with a yardstick.
* The [http://bioshock.wikia.com/wiki/Brute Brute Splicer] in ''[[Bioshock]] 2'' seems to be one of these.
* The [http://bioshock.wikia.com/wiki/Brute Brute Splicer] in ''[[BioShock (series)]] 2'' seems to be one of these.
* Kanji in ''[[Persona 4]].'' When he was a kid, the other kids [[Kids Are Cruel|teased him]] for liking things like sewing and other "girly" things, so he developed a [[Badass Biker]] facade in order to defend himself. These feelings manifest themselves as a half-naked [[Camp Gay]] [[Evil Twin]] with shades of [[He-Man Woman Hater]]. However, since part of accquiring one's Persona is learning to accept your suppressed feelings, Kanji learns to be more at ease with himself (especially once he learns that there are people who ''do'' accept him for who he is). Although he remains [[Manly Gay|a tough guy]], he stops worrying about whether or not he's "strange."
* Kanji in ''[[Persona 4]].'' When he was a kid, the other kids [[Kids Are Cruel|teased him]] for liking things like sewing and other "girly" things, so he developed a [[Badass Biker]] facade in order to defend himself. These feelings manifest themselves as a half-naked [[Camp Gay]] [[Evil Twin]] with shades of [[He-Man Woman Hater]]. However, since part of accquiring one's Persona is learning to accept your suppressed feelings, Kanji learns to be more at ease with himself (especially once he learns that there are people who ''do'' accept him for who he is). Although he remains [[Manly Gay|a tough guy]], he stops worrying about whether or not he's "strange."
** Worth noting that his sexuality is [[Shrug of God|deliberately left ambiguous]] in the end of the English version.
** Worth noting that his sexuality is [[Shrug of God|deliberately left ambiguous]] in the end of the English version.
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** Stan's attempts to reconcile the father and son reveal that Tank actually subverts EVERY other homophobia-explanation trope as well. He doesn't think it's against God, he doesn't think it's a choice, he doesn't think they are all [[Camp Gay]] or after his butt, etc. He is unable/unwilling to offer ANY explanation or justification for hating gays in general and his son specifically (his son even produced him a grandchild already, what is this guy's deal?).
** Stan's attempts to reconcile the father and son reveal that Tank actually subverts EVERY other homophobia-explanation trope as well. He doesn't think it's against God, he doesn't think it's a choice, he doesn't think they are all [[Camp Gay]] or after his butt, etc. He is unable/unwilling to offer ANY explanation or justification for hating gays in general and his son specifically (his son even produced him a grandchild already, what is this guy's deal?).
*** [[Selective Squick|His deal is he just thinks it's gross]].
*** [[Selective Squick|His deal is he just thinks it's gross]].
* Another subversion of a similar nature is given in ''[[South Park]]'', [[Magnificent Bastard|Cartman]] insists this is what Kyle is in his attempts to steer the new girl, Nichole's affection toward Token, [[Unfortunate Implications|the only other black kid in school]]. What's different here is that when Cartman outs Kyle very publicly, he KNOWS Kyle's not gay and is doing this because he really, really believes black people belong together.
* Another subversion of a similar nature is given in ''[[South Park]]'', [[Magnificent Bastard|Cartman]] insists this is what Kyle is in his attempts to steer the new girl, Nichole's affection toward Token, [[Unfortunate Implications|the only other black kid in school]]. What's different here is that when Cartman outs Kyle very publicly, he KNOWS Kyle's not gay and is doing this because he really, really believes black people belong together.
** Mr. Garrison before the episode '4th Grade' in season 4
** Mr. Garrison before the episode '4th Grade' in season 4
* This is a fairly popular [[Alternative Character Interpretation]] for Murderface in ''[[Metalocalypse]]'' fanfiction, expanding on the series' running gag of his insecurity in his sexuality.
* This is a fairly popular [[Alternative Character Interpretation]] for Murderface in ''[[Metalocalypse]]'' fanfiction, expanding on the series' running gag of his insecurity in his sexuality.
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*** So all together the evidence points to a closeted (and charmingly monogamous) homosexual Hoover, but not a transvestite one.
*** So all together the evidence points to a closeted (and charmingly monogamous) homosexual Hoover, but not a transvestite one.
**** The [[Clint Eastwood]] directed [[Biopic]] ''[[J. Edgar]]'' explored this part of his life quite deeply.
**** The [[Clint Eastwood]] directed [[Biopic]] ''[[J. Edgar]]'' explored this part of his life quite deeply.
* In black American communities this is known as "being on the down low", where tough gangsta types would sneak away from their girlfriends and cruise gay bars, [[Straight Gay|but didn't identify themselves as "gay" because they weren't Flamboyant and Camp]] ([[Unfortunate Implications|because gay men can be nothing else]] apparently). This has been blamed for the high number of HIV infections among black women. During the early 2000's, it became something of a witch-hunt, with many black religious leaders and relationship experts screaming, "if he's not constantly showering you with attention and gifts all the time, he's On The Down Low and you need to put his ass out!"
* In black American communities this is known as "being on the down low", where tough gangsta types would sneak away from their girlfriends and cruise gay bars, [[Invisible to Gaydar|but didn't identify themselves as "gay" because they weren't Flamboyant and Camp]] ([[Unfortunate Implications|because gay men can be nothing else]] apparently). This has been blamed for the high number of HIV infections among black women. During the early 2000's, it became something of a witch-hunt, with many black religious leaders and relationship experts screaming, "if he's not constantly showering you with attention and gifts all the time, he's On The Down Low and you need to put his ass out!"
** Perhaps not surprisingly, among these [[Moral Guardians]] were a few [http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-20021344-504083.html seeking to reinforce] their [http://claycane.blogspot.com/2007/10/exclusive-interview-with-donnie.html own armor].
** Perhaps not surprisingly, among these [[Moral Guardians]] were a few [http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-20021344-504083.html seeking to reinforce] their [http://claycane.blogspot.com/2007/10/exclusive-interview-with-donnie.html own armor].
* Welsh dual-code Rugby player [[wikipedia:Gareth Thomas (rugby player)|Gareth Thomas]], until he came out in 2009.
* Welsh dual-code Rugby player [[wikipedia:Gareth Thomas (rugby player)|Gareth Thomas]], until he came out in 2009.
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** not be confused with [[Love Actually|Richard Curtis]].
** not be confused with [[Love Actually|Richard Curtis]].
* [[Wild Mass Guessing|Many speculate]] that Christian Weston Chandler, the author of [[Sonichu]], may be gay or bisexual, despite his seething hatred of anything not-straight. This mainly comes from his cross dressing, claims that he has to look at a [[Sailor Moon]] poster "to keep me straight," as well as many other verbal gaffes.
* [[Wild Mass Guessing|Many speculate]] that Christian Weston Chandler, the author of [[Sonichu]], may be gay or bisexual, despite his seething hatred of anything not-straight. This mainly comes from his cross dressing, claims that he has to look at a [[Sailor Moon]] poster "to keep me straight," as well as many other verbal gaffes.
** His purchase of a dildo does not help his case.
** His purchase of a dildo does not help his case.
* Former U.S. Senator Larry Craig (R, Idaho) is married (to a woman), has opposed same-sex marriage, and voted against a bill to make hate crimes include crimes based on sexual orientation. Then he was arrested in 2007 in a Minneapolis airport men's bathroom for soliciting gay sex.
* Former U.S. Senator Larry Craig (R, Idaho) is married (to a woman), has opposed same-sex marriage, and voted against a bill to make hate crimes include crimes based on sexual orientation. Then he was arrested in 2007 in a Minneapolis airport men's bathroom for soliciting gay sex.
* Although a lot of people think that Fred Phelps must surely be the prime example of this trope, he is (surprisingly) not gay: no one has ever produced any credible evidence of it, and more importantly, Fred's estranged son Nate, who's spoken frankly about Fred's sociopathic behavior, has been repeatedly asked if his father is gay, and replied, "There just isn't anything there in my own experiences growing up there that would suggest that."
* Although a lot of people think that Fred Phelps must surely be the prime example of this trope, he is (surprisingly) not gay: no one has ever produced any credible evidence of it, and more importantly, Fred's estranged son Nate, who's spoken frankly about Fred's sociopathic behavior, has been repeatedly asked if his father is gay, and replied, "There just isn't anything there in my own experiences growing up there that would suggest that."