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When this happens between fictional characters, it's a [[Sure Let's Go With That]]. When it's built into the story, it's [[Schrodinger's Gun]]. You could argue this is the creators' decision to [[Throw It In]].

 

 

Contrast [[Jossed]] (when popular fan theories are explicitly sunk by [[Word of God]] or onscreen events).

* A fanfiction author wrote how [[The Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy|Grim and Mandy]] ended up getting married in ''[[Grim Tales From Down Below (Fanfic)|Grim Tales From Down Below]]'', and Bleedman added the whole thing in.

* Two of Jakayrta's stories in the [[Poke Wars]] universe are regarded as canon by Cornova himself.

* A reviewer proposed during the St. Galleria arc of [[The Tainted Grimoire (Fanfic)|The Tainted Grimoire]] to have Luso get Parivir clothing when he actually becomes a Parivir. The author worked this into the story in Chapter 65.

 

** In ''[[The Thrawn Trilogy]]'', [[Timothy Zahn]] created the name "Coruscant" for the galactic capital planet, which had previously been called simply "Imperial Center". When Lucas decided to portray the planet in the prequel trilogy, he was presuaded to use the name "Coruscant".

*** It was also used in other [[Expanded Universe]] titles, such as the ''Illustrated Guide to the Star Wars Galaxy'' and ''Essential Guide to Planets and Moons''. Its name of Imperial Center was explained as a case of [[Please Select New City Name]].

** He's even in the ''credits'' as "Figwit". And he had his own card in the [[Lot R]] TCG, under Figwit.

* The ''Phantasm'' "phandom" has long used term "Sentinel Spheres" to refer to the silver spheres. They are occasionally referred to as such by Don Coscarelli during the DVD commentaries as well, suggesting that he's adopted this term for them.

** Big time Harry Potter fan John Noe is a huge fan of the Auror Dawlish, who despite [[Informed Ability|getting O's in all his O.W.L.s]] [[The Worf Effect|can be bewitched and hexed by everyone including Neville's grandmother]]. Dawlish doesn't have a first name, and when Noe interviewed J.K. Rowling, she decided to give him the first name John, being named after John Noe.

** An interesting shipping example in ''Harry Potter''. About the time ''[[Harry Potter (Franchise)/Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows|Deathly Hallows]]'' (the book) came out, [[Word of God]] confirmed that {{spoiler|Neville Longbottom marries Hufflepuff and future landlady of the Leaky Calderon Hannah Abbott, while Luna goes on to marry Rolf Scamander, grandson of Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them author Newt Scamander.}} But in the [[Harry Potter (Film)|Film Of the Book]], {{spoiler|Neville runs off to confess his love to Luna in the middle of the battle, and in their last shot, they're [[Maybe Ever After|sitting next to each other smiling]].}}

* The case of how Terry Pratchett came up with Hersheba in ''[[Discworld (Literature)|Discworld]]''. "Say Djelibeybi OUT LOUD. I must have had twenty letters (and one or two emails) from people who didn't twig until the third time round... Oh god...do they have them in the US? Should it have been called Emmenemms, or Hersheba... Hmm, Hersheba... Could USE that, yes, little country near Ephebe..."

* The Trakata lightsaber combat, ''[[Star Wars]]'' fanon made canon by ''Roleplaying Game: Saga Edition Core Rulebook''.

*** And by not having the ''Enterprise'' Klingons look more like the ''TOS'' Klingons, which would have simplified the problem.

** The real reason, which is not hidden, was the low budget of the original series, which was not intended to be so big.

** Eve Myles' characters Gwyneth and [[Torchwood (TV)|Gwen Cooper]] were originally meant not to have any relationship to one another, but fans continued to speculate about it. {{spoiler|The Series 4 finale briefly "explains" the resemblance as [[Techno Babble|"spatial-genetic multiplicity"]].}}

** Fans had long speculated about the possibility of Time Lords regenerating into the opposite sex. In "The Doctor's Wife", a comment by the Doctor regarding the Corsair's past regenerations brings it solidly into canon.

*** The same episode also confirms several fan theories about the TARDIS and her relationship to the Doctor {{spoiler|not least that the TARDIS actually ''is'' a 'she' (Well, not exactly - it's transferred into a female body, and it apparently has a thing about Rory, but it' doesn't necessarily ''have'' a gender)}}, including the popular idea that her unreliability in taking the Doctor where he wants to go is not just due to unreliability, but also because she is taking him to where he is needed or needs to go.

* In ''[[Law and Order Special Victims Unit]]'', the [[Les Yay]] between Alex and Olivia was originally unintentional. Neal Baer, the executive producer, read about the [[Fan Yay]] fanbase that was developing about them, and worked it in, giving them more scenes together and more hints that they might be discreetly together. To the point where even Stephanie March (Alex's actor) has said that it is possible that they are just very quietly in love, it being a ''[[Law and Order]]'' and all.

* In ''[[Desperate Housewives]]'' season five finale Mike gets married to a woman, whose identity isn't revealed. The woman was supposed to be {{spoiler|Katherine}}, but because of insisting fans plans were remade and {{spoiler|Susan}} became the bride.

** Zack's comments about his uniform not fitting properly were taken verbatim from his actor's complaints (which he was astonished JMS knew about). Similarly, actor Bil Mumy was the one who decided that Lennier (whom he played) was {{spoiler|in love with Delenn}}, and sold JMS on the idea of making it canon.

* In a host segment of the ''[[Jungle Goddess]]'' ''[[Mystery Science Theater 3000]]'' episode, Joel introduces the bots as Jackie Gleason did with his fellow cast members at the end of every episode of The Honeymooners, prompting him to introduce Crow as "Art Crow!" (a reference to Art Carney). A child fan of the show missed the reference and sent Best Brains a drawing of the cast labelling Crow as "Art" under the impression that that was his actual name. The letter was shown on the show and ever since Crow was occasionally called "Art" (usually by Pearl Forrester) as a [[Running Gag]].

* Neil Flynn of ''[[Scrubs]]'' was reportedly asked if J.D.'s inexplicable crippling fear of pennies stemmed from the infamous "penny in the door" that began the perpetual feud with Flynn's Janitor. His response: "I have no idea who you are or where you come from, but sure, why not?"

** The character "The Todd" originally had [[Only One Name|no last name]]. That was until a fan noticed that he was wearing a nametag with the name Quinlan. This was just a random prop, but thanks to this fan he is official Dr. Quinlan.

** For the former, for a long time fans could never decide what Hong's name was, as it could be read as either Japanese or Mandarin, so they [[Fan Nickname|decided to call her China]]. At the same time that ZUN confirmed her name was actually Hong Meiling, he also said he calls her China as well, and the name remains popular.

** For the latter, the mid-bosses of Stage 2 and Stage 4 were never identified despite their unique sprites, with no dialogue, character profiles or even names, and after they became [[Ensemble Darkhorse|disproportionately popular]] they were given the [[Fan Nickname|Fan Nicknames]] Daiyousei (big/great fairy) and Koakuma (little devil) respectively. ZUN then used those names himself when referring to them, though he said that they were the names of ''types'' of youkai and not those individuals specifically. This one is mostly ignored however, as the personalities he described them as possessing (impetuous, selfish and mischievous like most low-level youkai) was completely antithetical to the ones fans had devised.

** {{spoiler|Actually saying whether Crono or Marle are actually dead would make Cross a lot less of a [[Mind Screw]].}}

* When ''Real Bout [[Fatal Fury]] Special'' first appeared, fans dubbed the [[True Final Boss]] version of Geese Howard that was found in the game as "Nightmare Geese", due to the fact that you not only fight him in a nightmarish version of his stage, but he literally IS a nightmare due to his overpowered moves and [[SNK Boss|naturally aggressive AI]] to go with it. When ''[[The King of Fighters (Video Game)|The King of Fighters]] [[Alternate Continuity|Maximum Impact 2]]'' was released, SNK adapted the moniker of Nightmare Geese to the form of Geese that appeared in that game, and the meaning of the term was changed to mean any form of Geese that is canonically dead.

* At the beginning of the ''[[Backyard Sports]]'' series, Pablo was just a normal (though often [[Game Breaker|overpowered]]) character. When the programmers found out about his [[Memetic Badass]] status, they put a ''huge stained glass window'' of him in ''Backyard Skateboarding''.

* Occasionally, on the ''[[Billy vs. SNAKEMAN]]'' forums, someone speculates/jokes about some part of the game world and the game's creator responds "hahaha, that's awesome, and it is now true." ([http://www.animecubed.com/billy/forum/viewtopic.php?p=119779&sid=d2666fbaf2f2fda12f55d2517424dcfa#p119779 Actual quote of one of those times])

* Rumor has it that [[Ms. Fanservice|Rouge the Bat]] from ''[[Sonic Adventure Series|Sonic Adventure 2]]'' was originally created by a fan. A female fan, nonetheless. [[Deviant ART|Unfortunately, this does nothing to help the problem of "Sonic recolors".]]

** On a more related note, the fan use of the name [[Sonic Unleashed|Werehog]] was so commonplace in both the English and Japanese fandom, that SEGA actually made it its official name (similarly, WereSonic was used to describe the character in the Wii/PS2 version on several occasions).

*** Basically, if something just plain weird happened in the movies, it's probably Sally's idea in D&D.

** [http://www.darthsanddroids.net/episodes/0491.html Then it's Jim's turn...]

* ''[[The Wotch]]'': Compare the [http://www.thewotch.com/?epDate=2005-07-08 first] canon appearance of the character Anibelle with [http://www.thewotch.com/?epDate=2008-08-12 the second]. Now consider [http://www.thewotch.com/?epDate=2005-06-10 this non-canon filler done by a guest artist] in between those two appearances. Yeah, exactly.

* Among the many submitted [[Fanfic|fanfics]] posted on the website of ''[[The Class Menagerie]]'' by the comic's creator, there was one where character Mike Hopkins (a kangaroo) is revealed to be gay, pairs up with a wolf boyfriend and comes out. This became canon in the penultimate story arc before the comic finished: Mike, previously undeclared, admits that he is gay, and the arc ends with him running into a hunky wolf in circumstances identical to those in the [[Fanfic]].

** The use of a [[Show Within a Show]] allow for this to be combined with [[Sure Let's Go With That]] in this [http://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20030903 strip] that even uses the exact words.

* Given its unique [[Interactive Fiction|fan-driven command system,]] the [[MS Paint Adventures]] series ''[[Homestuck (Webcomic)|Homestuck]]'' technically runs off of this trope. However, a more specific example is when "Mutie", a [[Fan Nickname]] given to the mutant kitten Rose found, became the ''actual'' nickname that Rose later gave it (short for "[[It Makes Sense in Context|Vodka Mutini]]".)

*** He changed his mind on that last one, having said that logically Dave and Rose should have the same hair color. Since most fans don't agree with Rose being a redhead, they eventually mostly decided on either blonde or just blank white hair. Sometimes Dave gets strawberry blonde hair as a compromise.

** More recently, the name of Tavros's [[No Name Given|Lusus]] was confirmed to be "Tinkerbull", the [[Fan Nickname]] it had had all along.

*** Even more recently, the species of Karkat's Lusus in the {{spoiler|post-Scratch universe}} is referred to as "crabdad", another [[Fan Nickname]].

** The forum is chock full of [[Wild Mass Guessing|WMGs]] and some not-so-wild-MGs. The author just goes through and harvests his favorites, now that the suggestion box is shut and only opens for naming characters- and even then the comic may not have any charactrs left to name.

** After the mysterious villain Lord English was finally revealed, someone made [http://ib.skaia.net/post/view/22819 fanart of him] in the style of a classic monster movie poster. Then {{spoiler|Jake English}} was introduced, and the walls of his room were completely covered in movie posters--and that Lord English fanart was one of the posters.

** On [http://mspandrew.tumblr.com/post/12680094125/answers his tumblr], Andrew Hussie (facetiously, we hope) declared that all fantrolls, ever, are now canon.

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