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If a particular work has a long and continuous run, fanon may be promoted to canon because a [[Promoted Fanboy]] is now [[Running the Asylum|calling all the shots]].
If a particular work has a long and continuous run, fanon may be promoted to canon because a [[Promoted Fanboy]] is now [[Running the Asylum|calling all the shots]].


When this happens between fictional characters, it's a [[Sure Let's Go With That]]. When it's built into the story, it's [[Schrodingers Gun]]. You could argue this is the creators' decision to [[Throw It In]].
When this happens between fictional characters, it's a [[Sure Let's Go With That]]. When it's built into the story, it's [[Schrodinger's Gun]]. You could argue this is the creators' decision to [[Throw It In]].


Compare with [[I Knew It]] (where the crazy fan explanation happens to match the one the author had planned all along), [[Ascended Meme]] (where this happens to memes), [[Word of Dante]], [[Canon Immigrant]] (when elements of an officially licensed non-canon source find their way into official canon), [[Beam Me Up Scotty]] (where the phrase that's well known was never uttered in canon), [[Official Fan Submitted Content]], [[Approval of God]] (where a creator likes a fan work but doesn't make it into canon).
Compare with [[I Knew It]] (where the crazy fan explanation happens to match the one the author had planned all along), [[Ascended Meme]] (where this happens to memes), [[Word of Dante]], [[Canon Immigrant]] (when elements of an officially licensed non-canon source find their way into official canon), [[Beam Me Up, Scotty]] (where the phrase that's well known was never uttered in canon), [[Official Fan Submitted Content]], [[Approval of God]] (where a creator likes a fan work but doesn't make it into canon).


Contrast [[Jossed]] (when popular fan theories are explicitly sunk by [[Word of God]] or onscreen events).
Contrast [[Jossed]] (when popular fan theories are explicitly sunk by [[Word of God]] or onscreen events).


Inverse of "[[Shrug of God]]". This is the screenwriter's version of [[Schrodingers Gun]]. Compare [[Writing By the Seat of Your Pants]], when the author takes suggestions from himself [[Indy Ploy|as he goes along]].
Inverse of "[[Shrug of God]]". This is the screenwriter's version of [[Schrodinger's Gun]]. Compare [[Writing By the Seat of Your Pants]], when the author takes suggestions from himself [[Indy Ploy|as he goes along]].


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== Anime and Manga ==
== Anime and Manga ==
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** In ''[[The Thrawn Trilogy]]'', [[Timothy Zahn]] created the name "Coruscant" for the galactic capital planet, which had previously been called simply "Imperial Center". When Lucas decided to portray the planet in the prequel trilogy, he was presuaded to use the name "Coruscant".
** In ''[[The Thrawn Trilogy]]'', [[Timothy Zahn]] created the name "Coruscant" for the galactic capital planet, which had previously been called simply "Imperial Center". When Lucas decided to portray the planet in the prequel trilogy, he was presuaded to use the name "Coruscant".
*** It was also used in other [[Expanded Universe]] titles, such as the ''Illustrated Guide to the Star Wars Galaxy'' and ''Essential Guide to Planets and Moons''. Its name of Imperial Center was explained as a case of [[Please Select New City Name]].
*** It was also used in other [[Expanded Universe]] titles, such as the ''Illustrated Guide to the Star Wars Galaxy'' and ''Essential Guide to Planets and Moons''. Its name of Imperial Center was explained as a case of [[Please Select New City Name]].
* ''[[The Lord of the Rings]]: The Fellowship of the Rings'' features an Elf in the Council of Elrond scene who is literally onscreen for 3 seconds, says nothing and is barely noticeable standing behind Legolas. But fans, being fans, latched on to this character (played by Bret MacKenzie of ''[[Flight of the Conchords]]'' fame) and formed stories and relationships around him, bestowing upon him the name "Figwit" (an acronym for "Frodo is great... [[Hey Its That Guy|who is that?!]]"). So big was his fanbase that he was brought back for ''Return of the King'', actually given a couple of lines and in the commentary is referred to as "Figwit" by the filmmakers.
* ''[[The Lord of the Rings]]: The Fellowship of the Rings'' features an Elf in the Council of Elrond scene who is literally onscreen for 3 seconds, says nothing and is barely noticeable standing behind Legolas. But fans, being fans, latched on to this character (played by Bret MacKenzie of ''[[Flight of the Conchords]]'' fame) and formed stories and relationships around him, bestowing upon him the name "Figwit" (an acronym for "Frodo is great... [[Hey It's That Guy|who is that?!]]"). So big was his fanbase that he was brought back for ''Return of the King'', actually given a couple of lines and in the commentary is referred to as "Figwit" by the filmmakers.
** He's even in the ''credits'' as "Figwit". And he had his own card in the [[Lot R]] TCG, under Figwit.
** He's even in the ''credits'' as "Figwit". And he had his own card in the [[Lot R]] TCG, under Figwit.
* The ''Phantasm'' "phandom" has long used term "Sentinel Spheres" to refer to the silver spheres. They are occasionally referred to as such by Don Coscarelli during the DVD commentaries as well, suggesting that he's adopted this term for them.
* The ''Phantasm'' "phandom" has long used term "Sentinel Spheres" to refer to the silver spheres. They are occasionally referred to as such by Don Coscarelli during the DVD commentaries as well, suggesting that he's adopted this term for them.
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* In later ''[[Harry Potter (Literature)|Harry Potter]]'' books, after [[The Film of the Book]] made "I shouldn't 'ave said that!" into Hagrid's [[Catch Phrase]], it then became one in the books as well.
* In later ''[[Harry Potter (Literature)|Harry Potter]]'' books, after [[The Film of the Book]] made "I shouldn't 'ave said that!" into Hagrid's [[Catch Phrase]], it then became one in the books as well.
** This has also been used for more minor errors, like when it was brought to her attention that Marcus Flint seemed to have repeated a year. [http://www.jkrowling.com/textonly/en/faq_view.cfm?id=16 Her response]: "Either I made a mistake or he failed his exams and repeated a year. I think I prefer Marcus making the mistake."
** This has also been used for more minor errors, like when it was brought to her attention that Marcus Flint seemed to have repeated a year. [http://www.jkrowling.com/textonly/en/faq_view.cfm?id=16 Her response]: "Either I made a mistake or he failed his exams and repeated a year. I think I prefer Marcus making the mistake."
** Near the end of ''[[Harry Potter (Franchise)/Harry Potter and The Deathly Hallows|Deathly Hallows]]'', a singing Peeves uses the name "Voldy" to refer to Voldemort. The fandom invented this dismissive name: Rowling said on her official site that she "thought it was very amusing when [she] found a chat room full of people calling him 'Voldy'."
** Near the end of ''[[Harry Potter (Franchise)/Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows|Deathly Hallows]]'', a singing Peeves uses the name "Voldy" to refer to Voldemort. The fandom invented this dismissive name: Rowling said on her official site that she "thought it was very amusing when [she] found a chat room full of people calling him 'Voldy'."
** Lupin's facial scars, which are never described in the books, have supposedly been appearing in fanart before his appearance in the third Harry Potter movie.
** Lupin's facial scars, which are never described in the books, have supposedly been appearing in fanart before his appearance in the third Harry Potter movie.
** Big time Harry Potter fan John Noe is a huge fan of the Auror Dawlish, who despite [[Informed Ability|getting O's in all his O.W.L.s]] [[The Worf Effect|can be bewitched and hexed by everyone including Neville's grandmother]]. Dawlish doesn't have a first name, and when Noe interviewed J.K. Rowling, she decided to give him the first name John, being named after John Noe.
** Big time Harry Potter fan John Noe is a huge fan of the Auror Dawlish, who despite [[Informed Ability|getting O's in all his O.W.L.s]] [[The Worf Effect|can be bewitched and hexed by everyone including Neville's grandmother]]. Dawlish doesn't have a first name, and when Noe interviewed J.K. Rowling, she decided to give him the first name John, being named after John Noe.
** An interesting shipping example in ''Harry Potter''. About the time ''[[Harry Potter (Franchise)/Harry Potter and The Deathly Hallows|Deathly Hallows]]'' (the book) came out, [[Word of God]] confirmed that {{spoiler|Neville Longbottom marries Hufflepuff and future landlady of the Leaky Calderon Hannah Abbott, while Luna goes on to marry Rolf Scamander, grandson of Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them author Newt Scamander.}} But in the [[Harry Potter (Film)|Film Of the Book]], {{spoiler|Neville runs off to confess his love to Luna in the middle of the battle, and in their last shot, they're [[Maybe Ever After|sitting next to each other smiling]].}}
** An interesting shipping example in ''Harry Potter''. About the time ''[[Harry Potter (Franchise)/Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows|Deathly Hallows]]'' (the book) came out, [[Word of God]] confirmed that {{spoiler|Neville Longbottom marries Hufflepuff and future landlady of the Leaky Calderon Hannah Abbott, while Luna goes on to marry Rolf Scamander, grandson of Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them author Newt Scamander.}} But in the [[Harry Potter (Film)|Film Of the Book]], {{spoiler|Neville runs off to confess his love to Luna in the middle of the battle, and in their last shot, they're [[Maybe Ever After|sitting next to each other smiling]].}}
** It's unknown whether it's this trope or [[I Knew It]], but ''[[The Draco Trilogy (Fanfic)|The Draco Trilogy]]'' popularized "Malfoy Manor" as the name of Draco Malfoy's family home. Seven years later, the name was used in ''Deathly Hallows''.
** It's unknown whether it's this trope or [[I Knew It]], but ''[[The Draco Trilogy (Fanfic)|The Draco Trilogy]]'' popularized "Malfoy Manor" as the name of Draco Malfoy's family home. Seven years later, the name was used in ''Deathly Hallows''.
* The case of how Terry Pratchett came up with Hersheba in ''[[Discworld (Literature)|Discworld]]''. "Say Djelibeybi OUT LOUD. I must have had twenty letters (and one or two emails) from people who didn't twig until the third time round... Oh god...do they have them in the US? Should it have been called Emmenemms, or Hersheba... Hmm, Hersheba... Could USE that, yes, little country near Ephebe..."
* The case of how Terry Pratchett came up with Hersheba in ''[[Discworld (Literature)|Discworld]]''. "Say Djelibeybi OUT LOUD. I must have had twenty letters (and one or two emails) from people who didn't twig until the third time round... Oh god...do they have them in the US? Should it have been called Emmenemms, or Hersheba... Hmm, Hersheba... Could USE that, yes, little country near Ephebe..."
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* The popular ''[[Doctor Who (TV)|Doctor Who]]'' fan theory about a series of unaired adventures known as "season 6B" (essentially, that the Second Doctor continued adventuring in some capacity after he was captured but before regenerating at the end of season 6) that is used to plug up continuity holes has been used in some of the [[Doctor Who Expanded Universe]] media.
* The popular ''[[Doctor Who (TV)|Doctor Who]]'' fan theory about a series of unaired adventures known as "season 6B" (essentially, that the Second Doctor continued adventuring in some capacity after he was captured but before regenerating at the end of season 6) that is used to plug up continuity holes has been used in some of the [[Doctor Who Expanded Universe]] media.
** Eve Myles' characters Gwyneth and [[Torchwood (TV)|Gwen Cooper]] were originally meant not to have any relationship to one another, but fans continued to speculate about it. {{spoiler|The Series 4 finale briefly "explains" the resemblance as [[Techno Babble|"spatial-genetic multiplicity"]].}}
** Eve Myles' characters Gwyneth and [[Torchwood (TV)|Gwen Cooper]] were originally meant not to have any relationship to one another, but fans continued to speculate about it. {{spoiler|The Series 4 finale briefly "explains" the resemblance as [[Techno Babble|"spatial-genetic multiplicity"]].}}
** Part of the [[The Reason You Suck Speech]] in "[[Doctor Who (TV)/Recap/S32 E7 A Good Man Goes to War|A Good Man Goes to War]]" sees current executive producer [[Steven Moffat]] saying "Sure, why not? to... [https://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.drwho/browse_thread/thread/7cd734f99a62ae98/c845f05e9b213df9?pli=1 his past 90s fan self].
** Part of the [["The Reason You Suck" Speech]] in "[[Doctor Who (TV)/Recap/S32 E7 A Good Man Goes to War|A Good Man Goes to War]]" sees current executive producer [[Steven Moffat]] saying "Sure, why not? to... [https://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.drwho/browse_thread/thread/7cd734f99a62ae98/c845f05e9b213df9?pli=1 his past 90s fan self].
** Fans had long speculated about the possibility of Time Lords regenerating into the opposite sex. In "The Doctor's Wife", a comment by the Doctor regarding the Corsair's past regenerations brings it solidly into canon.
** Fans had long speculated about the possibility of Time Lords regenerating into the opposite sex. In "The Doctor's Wife", a comment by the Doctor regarding the Corsair's past regenerations brings it solidly into canon.
*** The same episode also confirms several fan theories about the TARDIS and her relationship to the Doctor {{spoiler|not least that the TARDIS actually ''is'' a 'she' (Well, not exactly - it's transferred into a female body, and it apparently has a thing about Rory, but it' doesn't necessarily ''have'' a gender)}}, including the popular idea that her unreliability in taking the Doctor where he wants to go is not just due to unreliability, but also because she is taking him to where he is needed or needs to go.
*** The same episode also confirms several fan theories about the TARDIS and her relationship to the Doctor {{spoiler|not least that the TARDIS actually ''is'' a 'she' (Well, not exactly - it's transferred into a female body, and it apparently has a thing about Rory, but it' doesn't necessarily ''have'' a gender)}}, including the popular idea that her unreliability in taking the Doctor where he wants to go is not just due to unreliability, but also because she is taking him to where he is needed or needs to go.
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** Bigger than that! Some interviews have stated that the original "big coupling" of the series was originally intended to be Monica and Joey (referenced later in an episode where Monica admitted that when she slept with Chandler the first time, she was looking for Joey). However, fan response to the slight detail that Ross was attracted to Rachel in school resulted in the largest arc of the entire series.
** Bigger than that! Some interviews have stated that the original "big coupling" of the series was originally intended to be Monica and Joey (referenced later in an episode where Monica admitted that when she slept with Chandler the first time, she was looking for Joey). However, fan response to the slight detail that Ross was attracted to Rachel in school resulted in the largest arc of the entire series.
*** Given that Ross confessing his crush and Rachel agreeing to go out with him sometime took place in the pilot, it seems dubious that their arc was entirely fan-driven.
*** Given that Ross confessing his crush and Rachel agreeing to go out with him sometime took place in the pilot, it seems dubious that their arc was entirely fan-driven.
* The unnamed bearded man who {{spoiler|kidnapped Walt}} in season 1 of ''[[Lost]]'' was given the nickname "Mr. Friendly" by the writers (because of his polite demeanor), a nickname which caught on with fans. Even after his name was revealed as [[Some Call Me Tim|Tom]], press releases continued calling him Mr. Friendly. At Comic-Con 2010, the ''Lost'' writers just shrugged their shoulders and gave the character's official full name as "Tom Friendly".
* The unnamed bearded man who {{spoiler|kidnapped Walt}} in season 1 of ''[[Lost]]'' was given the nickname "Mr. Friendly" by the writers (because of his polite demeanor), a nickname which caught on with fans. Even after his name was revealed as [[Some Call Me... Tim|Tom]], press releases continued calling him Mr. Friendly. At Comic-Con 2010, the ''Lost'' writers just shrugged their shoulders and gave the character's official full name as "Tom Friendly".
** Another instance also involves Tom: at one point he mentioned that Kate, the show's most desired woman, was "not his type". Immediately fans began a running joke that he was gay. The actor heard about it and liked it, and started playing Tom that way (albeit subtly). Eventually the writers even put it in the script.
** Another instance also involves Tom: at one point he mentioned that Kate, the show's most desired woman, was "not his type". Immediately fans began a running joke that he was gay. The actor heard about it and liked it, and started playing Tom that way (albeit subtly). Eventually the writers even put it in the script.
* The characters Cecily and Halfrek in ''[[Buffy the Vampire Slayer]]'' weren't supposed to have anything to do with each other other than both being played by Kali Rocha, but after many fans theorized that Halfrek (a demon) could have been undercover as Cecily, the writers made a small referrence to it, and got its own story in one of the comics.
* The characters Cecily and Halfrek in ''[[Buffy the Vampire Slayer]]'' weren't supposed to have anything to do with each other other than both being played by Kali Rocha, but after many fans theorized that Halfrek (a demon) could have been undercover as Cecily, the writers made a small referrence to it, and got its own story in one of the comics.
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** For the former, for a long time fans could never decide what Hong's name was, as it could be read as either Japanese or Mandarin, so they [[Fan Nickname|decided to call her China]]. At the same time that ZUN confirmed her name was actually Hong Meiling, he also said he calls her China as well, and the name remains popular.
** For the former, for a long time fans could never decide what Hong's name was, as it could be read as either Japanese or Mandarin, so they [[Fan Nickname|decided to call her China]]. At the same time that ZUN confirmed her name was actually Hong Meiling, he also said he calls her China as well, and the name remains popular.
** For the latter, the mid-bosses of Stage 2 and Stage 4 were never identified despite their unique sprites, with no dialogue, character profiles or even names, and after they became [[Ensemble Darkhorse|disproportionately popular]] they were given the [[Fan Nickname|Fan Nicknames]] Daiyousei (big/great fairy) and Koakuma (little devil) respectively. ZUN then used those names himself when referring to them, though he said that they were the names of ''types'' of youkai and not those individuals specifically. This one is mostly ignored however, as the personalities he described them as possessing (impetuous, selfish and mischievous like most low-level youkai) was completely antithetical to the ones fans had devised.
** For the latter, the mid-bosses of Stage 2 and Stage 4 were never identified despite their unique sprites, with no dialogue, character profiles or even names, and after they became [[Ensemble Darkhorse|disproportionately popular]] they were given the [[Fan Nickname|Fan Nicknames]] Daiyousei (big/great fairy) and Koakuma (little devil) respectively. ZUN then used those names himself when referring to them, though he said that they were the names of ''types'' of youkai and not those individuals specifically. This one is mostly ignored however, as the personalities he described them as possessing (impetuous, selfish and mischievous like most low-level youkai) was completely antithetical to the ones fans had devised.
* Fans of ''[[Chrono Trigger (Video Game)|Chrono Trigger]]'' still aren't sure whether the DS version's reveal that {{spoiler|[[Not So Harmless Villain|Dalton]] was the one responsible for the Porre rebellion that [[Shrug of God|may or may not have]] killed Crono and Marle prior to ''[[Chrono Cross (Video Game)|Chrono Cross]]''}} is this, "[[I Knew It]]," or a [[Promoted Fanboy]]'s [[Running the Asylum|canonization of his preferred theory]].
* Fans of ''[[Chrono Trigger (Video Game)|Chrono Trigger]]'' still aren't sure whether the DS version's reveal that {{spoiler|[[Not-So-Harmless Villain|Dalton]] was the one responsible for the Porre rebellion that [[Shrug of God|may or may not have]] killed Crono and Marle prior to ''[[Chrono Cross (Video Game)|Chrono Cross]]''}} is this, "[[I Knew It]]," or a [[Promoted Fanboy]]'s [[Running the Asylum|canonization of his preferred theory]].
** {{spoiler|Actually saying whether Crono or Marle are actually dead would make Cross a lot less of a [[Mind Screw]].}}
** {{spoiler|Actually saying whether Crono or Marle are actually dead would make Cross a lot less of a [[Mind Screw]].}}
* When ''Real Bout [[Fatal Fury]] Special'' first appeared, fans dubbed the [[True Final Boss]] version of Geese Howard that was found in the game as "Nightmare Geese", due to the fact that you not only fight him in a nightmarish version of his stage, but he literally IS a nightmare due to his overpowered moves and [[SNK Boss|naturally aggressive AI]] to go with it. When ''[[The King of Fighters (Video Game)|The King of Fighters]] [[Alternate Continuity|Maximum Impact 2]]'' was released, SNK adapted the moniker of Nightmare Geese to the form of Geese that appeared in that game, and the meaning of the term was changed to mean any form of Geese that is canonically dead.
* When ''Real Bout [[Fatal Fury]] Special'' first appeared, fans dubbed the [[True Final Boss]] version of Geese Howard that was found in the game as "Nightmare Geese", due to the fact that you not only fight him in a nightmarish version of his stage, but he literally IS a nightmare due to his overpowered moves and [[SNK Boss|naturally aggressive AI]] to go with it. When ''[[The King of Fighters (Video Game)|The King of Fighters]] [[Alternate Continuity|Maximum Impact 2]]'' was released, SNK adapted the moniker of Nightmare Geese to the form of Geese that appeared in that game, and the meaning of the term was changed to mean any form of Geese that is canonically dead.
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** The revelation of Noob Saibot being {{spoiler|1=the specter form of the original Sub-Zero from MK1}} was actually the result of a Midway employee [http://highervoltage.net/mb/showpost.php?p=400646&postcount=12 taking suggestions from a fan].
** The revelation of Noob Saibot being {{spoiler|1=the specter form of the original Sub-Zero from MK1}} was actually the result of a Midway employee [http://highervoltage.net/mb/showpost.php?p=400646&postcount=12 taking suggestions from a fan].
* ''[[Dragon Quest (Video Game)|Dragon Quest]]'s'' Yūji Horii [[Word of God|explained]] that the "Zenithia" trilogy (Games 4-6) was never intended: "Each Dragon Quest title represents a fresh start and a new story, so I don't see too much of a connection between the games in the series. I guess it could be said that the imagination of players has brought the titles together in a certain fashion." Judging by some of the commentary and bookshelves in the DS [[Video Game Remake]], they've gone "Why not?"
* ''[[Dragon Quest (Video Game)|Dragon Quest]]'s'' Yūji Horii [[Word of God|explained]] that the "Zenithia" trilogy (Games 4-6) was never intended: "Each Dragon Quest title represents a fresh start and a new story, so I don't see too much of a connection between the games in the series. I guess it could be said that the imagination of players has brought the titles together in a certain fashion." Judging by some of the commentary and bookshelves in the DS [[Video Game Remake]], they've gone "Why not?"
** There is also the case of the [[Dragon Quest I (Video Game)|first game's]] villain, the Dragonlord. He goes down pretty quickly in the Japanese version; but then his [[Dragon Their Feet|pet Superdragon attacks you.]] The western translation had him turning into this [[One Winged Angel|final form.]] Later depictions in ''[[Dragon Quest Monsters (Video Game)|Dragon Quest Monsters]]'' and ''[[Dragon Quest IX (Video Game)|Dragon Quest IX]]'' have this be the Dragonlord's true form.
** There is also the case of the [[Dragon Quest I (Video Game)|first game's]] villain, the Dragonlord. He goes down pretty quickly in the Japanese version; but then his [[Dragon Their Feet|pet Superdragon attacks you.]] The western translation had him turning into this [[One-Winged Angel|final form.]] Later depictions in ''[[Dragon Quest Monsters (Video Game)|Dragon Quest Monsters]]'' and ''[[Dragon Quest IX (Video Game)|Dragon Quest IX]]'' have this be the Dragonlord's true form.
** In an inverse "developers doing it to themselves" crossed with PAL Bonus and some psuedo-[[Recursive Import]], the English localizations of the games tend to have this effect on the later Japanese rereleases. Much like the Dragonlord example, games that come West get a graphics/sprite overhaul that is usually ported back to Japanese rereleases, with a very specific case of this being ''[[Dragon Quest III (Video Game)|Dragon Quest III]]'' giving Ortega a proper sprite and a proper opening sequence.
** In an inverse "developers doing it to themselves" crossed with PAL Bonus and some psuedo-[[Recursive Import]], the English localizations of the games tend to have this effect on the later Japanese rereleases. Much like the Dragonlord example, games that come West get a graphics/sprite overhaul that is usually ported back to Japanese rereleases, with a very specific case of this being ''[[Dragon Quest III (Video Game)|Dragon Quest III]]'' giving Ortega a proper sprite and a proper opening sequence.
* ''[[Team Fortress 2 (Video Game)|Team Fortress 2]]'' fans have suspected every major class update of being the Spy update since Goldrush, on the assumption that Valve would "disguise" it as another class's update (since, after all, that's exactly what the Spy does). [http://www.teamfortress.com/sniper_vs_spy/day04_english.htm That's exactly what they ended up doing].
* ''[[Team Fortress 2 (Video Game)|Team Fortress 2]]'' fans have suspected every major class update of being the Spy update since Goldrush, on the assumption that Valve would "disguise" it as another class's update (since, after all, that's exactly what the Spy does). [http://www.teamfortress.com/sniper_vs_spy/day04_english.htm That's exactly what they ended up doing].
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* At the beginning of the ''[[Backyard Sports]]'' series, Pablo was just a normal (though often [[Game Breaker|overpowered]]) character. When the programmers found out about his [[Memetic Badass]] status, they put a ''huge stained glass window'' of him in ''Backyard Skateboarding''.
* At the beginning of the ''[[Backyard Sports]]'' series, Pablo was just a normal (though often [[Game Breaker|overpowered]]) character. When the programmers found out about his [[Memetic Badass]] status, they put a ''huge stained glass window'' of him in ''Backyard Skateboarding''.
* Occasionally, on the ''[[Billy vs. SNAKEMAN]]'' forums, someone speculates/jokes about some part of the game world and the game's creator responds "hahaha, that's awesome, and it is now true." ([http://www.animecubed.com/billy/forum/viewtopic.php?p=119779&sid=d2666fbaf2f2fda12f55d2517424dcfa#p119779 Actual quote of one of those times])
* Occasionally, on the ''[[Billy vs. SNAKEMAN]]'' forums, someone speculates/jokes about some part of the game world and the game's creator responds "hahaha, that's awesome, and it is now true." ([http://www.animecubed.com/billy/forum/viewtopic.php?p=119779&sid=d2666fbaf2f2fda12f55d2517424dcfa#p119779 Actual quote of one of those times])
* On The Consumer's edition Soundrack of ''[[Blaz Blue]]: Continuum Shift'', you'll find the [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9E3DZaoeus Vocal Version] of [[Rated M for Manly|Bang]] [[Theme Music Power Up|Shi]][[Hot Blooded|shi]][[Tony Oliver|ga]][[Ensemble Darkhorse|mi's]] Theme, Gale, as sung by the Japanese man who voices Bang himself. It was originally [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dweaPjeQhYQ Fan Made] by the same guy who did [[Ear Worm|Okkusenman]].
* On The Consumer's edition Soundrack of ''[[Blaz Blue]]: Continuum Shift'', you'll find the [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9E3DZaoeus Vocal Version] of [[Rated M for Manly|Bang]] [[Theme Music Power-Up|Shi]][[Hot Blooded|shi]][[Tony Oliver|ga]][[Ensemble Darkhorse|mi's]] Theme, Gale, as sung by the Japanese man who voices Bang himself. It was originally [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dweaPjeQhYQ Fan Made] by the same guy who did [[Ear Worm|Okkusenman]].
* Rumor has it that [[Ms. Fanservice|Rouge the Bat]] from ''[[Sonic Adventure Series|Sonic Adventure 2]]'' was originally created by a fan. A female fan, nonetheless. [[Deviant ART|Unfortunately, this does nothing to help the problem of "Sonic recolors".]]
* Rumor has it that [[Ms. Fanservice|Rouge the Bat]] from ''[[Sonic Adventure Series|Sonic Adventure 2]]'' was originally created by a fan. A female fan, nonetheless. [[Deviant ART|Unfortunately, this does nothing to help the problem of "Sonic recolors".]]
** On a more related note, the fan use of the name [[Sonic Unleashed|Werehog]] was so commonplace in both the English and Japanese fandom, that SEGA actually made it its official name (similarly, WereSonic was used to describe the character in the Wii/PS2 version on several occasions).
** On a more related note, the fan use of the name [[Sonic Unleashed|Werehog]] was so commonplace in both the English and Japanese fandom, that SEGA actually made it its official name (similarly, WereSonic was used to describe the character in the Wii/PS2 version on several occasions).
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* Many fans claim that ''[[Order of the Stick]]'s'' author originally intended Vaarsuvius to have a specific gender, but [[Jerkass|deliberately made it]] [[Ambiguous Gender|ambiguous]] after a few fans started bickering about V's gender early on. The author confirmed this in the first compilation book.
* Many fans claim that ''[[Order of the Stick]]'s'' author originally intended Vaarsuvius to have a specific gender, but [[Jerkass|deliberately made it]] [[Ambiguous Gender|ambiguous]] after a few fans started bickering about V's gender early on. The author confirmed this in the first compilation book.
** However, that same author hates fan speculation, because if the fans guess what he was intending it makes him want to change it. As a result, he reads very little of the posts on his own message board, so as to avoid seeing such speculations.
** However, that same author hates fan speculation, because if the fans guess what he was intending it makes him want to change it. As a result, he reads very little of the posts on his own message board, so as to avoid seeing such speculations.
* [[Mega Man (Video Game)|Mega Man]]'s [[Crouching Moron Hidden Badass]] behavior in ''[[Bob and George]]'' was originally just [[Rule of Funny|an unexplained joke]]. Then some continuity-minded fans noticed that [http://www.bobandgeorge.com/archives/index.php?date=000802&commentary=on an earlier strip] gave a surprisingly plausible reason for this behavior, and Dave Anez ran with it.
* [[Mega Man (Video Game)|Mega Man]]'s [[Crouching Moron, Hidden Badass]] behavior in ''[[Bob and George]]'' was originally just [[Rule of Funny|an unexplained joke]]. Then some continuity-minded fans noticed that [http://www.bobandgeorge.com/archives/index.php?date=000802&commentary=on an earlier strip] gave a surprisingly plausible reason for this behavior, and Dave Anez ran with it.
** A less important detail, mentioned [http://www.bobandgeorge.com/archives/index.php?date=011211&commentary=on here], was that Bob's scarf was burned and tattered, due to his suit being a scorched Proto Man costume.
** A less important detail, mentioned [http://www.bobandgeorge.com/archives/index.php?date=011211&commentary=on here], was that Bob's scarf was burned and tattered, due to his suit being a scorched Proto Man costume.
** Dave Anez's entire MO was "Do what's funny on the spot, come up with an explanation later," so a large portion of the comic runs on this trope.
** Dave Anez's entire MO was "Do what's funny on the spot, come up with an explanation later," so a large portion of the comic runs on this trope.
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** The use of a [[Show Within a Show]] allow for this to be combined with [[Sure Let's Go With That]] in this [http://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20030903 strip] that even uses the exact words.
** The use of a [[Show Within a Show]] allow for this to be combined with [[Sure Let's Go With That]] in this [http://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20030903 strip] that even uses the exact words.
* Given its unique [[Interactive Fiction|fan-driven command system,]] the [[MS Paint Adventures]] series ''[[Homestuck (Webcomic)|Homestuck]]'' technically runs off of this trope. However, a more specific example is when "Mutie", a [[Fan Nickname]] given to the mutant kitten Rose found, became the ''actual'' nickname that Rose later gave it (short for "[[It Makes Sense in Context|Vodka Mutini]]".)
* Given its unique [[Interactive Fiction|fan-driven command system,]] the [[MS Paint Adventures]] series ''[[Homestuck (Webcomic)|Homestuck]]'' technically runs off of this trope. However, a more specific example is when "Mutie", a [[Fan Nickname]] given to the mutant kitten Rose found, became the ''actual'' nickname that Rose later gave it (short for "[[It Makes Sense in Context|Vodka Mutini]]".)
** Other examples include most of Grandpa Harley's [[Kitsch Collection|collections]], the [[Everyone Calls Him Barkeep|Peregrine Mendicant's]] [[Samus Is a Girl|gender]], [[Time Master|Lord English]] being an [[Ultima]] [[Shout Out]] and Dave's being a redhead (the characters are drawn with black-and-white heads, even though their backgrounds and outfits are in color).
** Other examples include most of Grandpa Harley's [[Kitsch Collection|collections]], the [[Everyone Calls Him "Barkeep"|Peregrine Mendicant's]] [[Samus Is a Girl|gender]], [[Time Master|Lord English]] being an [[Ultima]] [[Shout Out]] and Dave's being a redhead (the characters are drawn with black-and-white heads, even though their backgrounds and outfits are in color).
*** He changed his mind on that last one, having said that logically Dave and Rose should have the same hair color. Since most fans don't agree with Rose being a redhead, they eventually mostly decided on either blonde or just blank white hair. Sometimes Dave gets strawberry blonde hair as a compromise.
*** He changed his mind on that last one, having said that logically Dave and Rose should have the same hair color. Since most fans don't agree with Rose being a redhead, they eventually mostly decided on either blonde or just blank white hair. Sometimes Dave gets strawberry blonde hair as a compromise.
** More recently, the name of Tavros's [[No Name Given|Lusus]] was confirmed to be "Tinkerbull", the [[Fan Nickname]] it had had all along.
** More recently, the name of Tavros's [[No Name Given|Lusus]] was confirmed to be "Tinkerbull", the [[Fan Nickname]] it had had all along.
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* In [[Atop the Fourth Wall (Web Video)|Atop the Fourth Wall]], Dr. Insano's parallel universe alternate (played by Linkara) was originally just going to be another version of Dr. Insano. However, the fans latched onto the name "Dr. Linksano" and Linkara just went with it.
* In [[Atop the Fourth Wall (Web Video)|Atop the Fourth Wall]], Dr. Insano's parallel universe alternate (played by Linkara) was originally just going to be another version of Dr. Insano. However, the fans latched onto the name "Dr. Linksano" and Linkara just went with it.
** Ditto for them assuming Cable's gun was a literal [[Chekhov's Gun]].
** Ditto for them assuming Cable's gun was a literal [[Chekhov's Gun]].
* A popular joke among the handlers on ''[[Survival of the Fittest]]'' during V4 was that characters who went inactive were fed to the [[Everythings Worse With Bears|inactivity bear]]. Then Megan Nelson went two weeks without a post, the admins dropped her into a cave, [[Take Our Word for It|a scream was heard]], and the rest is history. The bear's name is [[Fluffy the Terrible|Kenny]], by the way.
* A popular joke among the handlers on ''[[Survival of the Fittest]]'' during V4 was that characters who went inactive were fed to the [[Everything's Worse With Bears|inactivity bear]]. Then Megan Nelson went two weeks without a post, the admins dropped her into a cave, [[Take Our Word for It|a scream was heard]], and the rest is history. The bear's name is [[Fluffy the Terrible|Kenny]], by the way.
* For the [[Chaos Timeline (Literature)|Chaos Timeline]]: Some fan suggested that the head of the Socialist part of Germany should have the title "Oberster Politischer Kommissar", which became canon.
* For the [[Chaos Timeline (Literature)|Chaos Timeline]]: Some fan suggested that the head of the Socialist part of Germany should have the title "Oberster Politischer Kommissar", which became canon.


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* Many fans of ''[[Kim Possible]]'' theorised that the first name of Kim's brain surgeon mother, Dr. Possible, was "Anne", because it was Kim's middle name, and her father Dr. James Timothy Possible, extrapolated from his sons Jim and Tim. The first finale ''So The Drama'' named Kim father thus, and the second named Anne in the series' two-part finale. Of course, to make this work, one must mention that the creators would occasionally visit fan forums.
* Many fans of ''[[Kim Possible]]'' theorised that the first name of Kim's brain surgeon mother, Dr. Possible, was "Anne", because it was Kim's middle name, and her father Dr. James Timothy Possible, extrapolated from his sons Jim and Tim. The first finale ''So The Drama'' named Kim father thus, and the second named Anne in the series' two-part finale. Of course, to make this work, one must mention that the creators would occasionally visit fan forums.
** This is further supported by the finale having a overt reference to fanfic.
** This is further supported by the finale having a overt reference to fanfic.
* The parody "Jingle bells, Batman smells" has been circulating since the 1970s. In 1992, the ''[[Batman the Animated Series (Animation)|Batman the Animated Series]]'' episode [[Christmas Episode|"Christmas With The Joker"]] had (who else?) [[The Joker]] [[Ascended Meme|singing the parody]].
* The parody "Jingle bells, Batman smells" has been circulating since the 1970s. In 1992, the ''[[Batman: The Animated Series (Animation)|Batman the Animated Series]]'' episode [[Christmas Episode|"Christmas With The Joker"]] had (who else?) [[The Joker]] [[Ascended Meme|singing the parody]].
** In ''[[Justice League]]'', when the founding members (except Batman) agreed to be arrested because of an accident involving a giant laser, one of the officers asks where Batman is. The Flash says "Running late. The Batmobile, it lost a wheel. The Joker got away. That's what I heard."
** In ''[[Justice League]]'', when the founding members (except Batman) agreed to be arrested because of an accident involving a giant laser, one of the officers asks where Batman is. The Flash says "Running late. The Batmobile, it lost a wheel. The Joker got away. That's what I heard."
** Also in ''[[Justice League]]'', the entire flirting between Batman and Wonder Woman came because of a scene in Gorilla Grodd's introduction episode, in which Batman, believing Wonder Woman was crushed by rubble, started digging with his hands. After escaping by herself, she saw Batman's hands covered in dirt and gave him a gratitude kiss in the cheek. Batman blushed at this, and fans got crazy, believing there was something between them. While it was not the case at the time, the writers liked the idea and put it into the show.
** Also in ''[[Justice League]]'', the entire flirting between Batman and Wonder Woman came because of a scene in Gorilla Grodd's introduction episode, in which Batman, believing Wonder Woman was crushed by rubble, started digging with his hands. After escaping by herself, she saw Batman's hands covered in dirt and gave him a gratitude kiss in the cheek. Batman blushed at this, and fans got crazy, believing there was something between them. While it was not the case at the time, the writers liked the idea and put it into the show.
* ''[[The Spectacular Spider Man]]'''s [[Greg Weisman]] does it [http://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php?qid=11582 here].
* ''[[The Spectacular Spider Man]]'''s [[Greg Weisman]] does it [http://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php?qid=11582 here].
* The DJ pony in ''[[My Little Pony Friendship Is Magic (Animation)|My Little Pony Friendship Is Magic]]'' is on screen for a total of five seconds, but became popular with the fanbase due to her striking design and cool job. A meme circulated of making [[YouTube]] videos with her head-bobbing loop over various house, techno and electronic music tracks, calling her "DJ-P0N3" (in reference to [[Deadmau 5 (Music)|Deadmau 5]]). The Hub's extended trailer, [[Filk Song|a rewrite of]] [[Katy Perry|Katy Perry's]] "California Girls" called "[[Image Song|Equestria Girls]]" (and sung by Pinkie Pie's canonical singing voice actress!), addressed the pony as DJ-P0N3, pronouncing it 'pon three' to prove the reference. The song also used the [[Fandom Nickname]] 'brony' to refer to male fans of the show.
* The DJ pony in ''[[My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic (Animation)|My Little Pony Friendship Is Magic]]'' is on screen for a total of five seconds, but became popular with the fanbase due to her striking design and cool job. A meme circulated of making [[YouTube]] videos with her head-bobbing loop over various house, techno and electronic music tracks, calling her "DJ-P0N3" (in reference to [[Deadmau 5 (Music)|Deadmau 5]]). The Hub's extended trailer, [[Filk Song|a rewrite of]] [[Katy Perry|Katy Perry's]] "California Girls" called "[[Image Song|Equestria Girls]]" (and sung by Pinkie Pie's canonical singing voice actress!), addressed the pony as DJ-P0N3, pronouncing it 'pon three' to prove the reference. The song also used the [[Fandom Nickname]] 'brony' to refer to male fans of the show.
** In one episode, Fluttershy mentions how she'd like to be a tree, which became a meme (Fluttershy is a tree). In the Season 2 episode ''Hurricane Fluttershy'' she disguises herself... as a tree.
** In one episode, Fluttershy mentions how she'd like to be a tree, which became a meme (Fluttershy is a tree). In the Season 2 episode ''Hurricane Fluttershy'' she disguises herself... as a tree.
** A gray cross-eyed pony seen in backgrounds and crowd cameos for a few seconds in several episodes was rapidly nicknamed "Derpy Hooves" (said nickname made canon by Hasbro) by fans and was confirmed to be a full character for the second season - now with lines!
** A gray cross-eyed pony seen in backgrounds and crowd cameos for a few seconds in several episodes was rapidly nicknamed "Derpy Hooves" (said nickname made canon by Hasbro) by fans and was confirmed to be a full character for the second season - now with lines!
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