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== We are the na'vi. (We migrated to Pandora and well...) ==
== We are the na'vi. (We migrated to Pandora and well...) ==
Look at them. Minus the tail, braid, height, and skin, we're [[Not So Different]]. We can look nearly the same.
Look at them. Minus the tail, braid, height, and skin, we're [[Not So Different]]. We can look nearly the same.
* On [http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5797378/1/Future_Tense this fanfic] : [http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5797378/32/Future_Tense Chapter 32 has more details to explain]:
* On [https://web.archive.org/web/20120422113316/http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5797378/1/Future_Tense this fanfic] : [https://web.archive.org/web/20120422113319/http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5797378/32/Future_Tense Chapter 32 has more details to explain]:
{{quote|As near as I can figure it, about four thousand years ago someone or something brought a proto-Polynesian tribe here from Earth, genetically engineering their bodies to survive on this world, made them known to Eywa, and released them. That is why the Na'vi seem so familiar to us – their appearance, their culture, their language. The Na'vi were human once. That is why it was relatively easy for our technology to build Avatars. The original genetic modifications made the Na'vi genotype readily adaptable to the changes required for the Avatar program. I've spent the last two years deciphering the technology that they used. It hasn't been easy – it is hundreds of years in advance of where Earth is right now, and somehow they linked it with Eywa. If not for that I could never have learnt what I have. (Shows amino pods.)}}
{{quote|As near as I can figure it, about four thousand years ago someone or something brought a proto-Polynesian tribe here from Earth, genetically engineering their bodies to survive on this world, made them known to Eywa, and released them. That is why the Na'vi seem so familiar to us – their appearance, their culture, their language. The Na'vi were human once. That is why it was relatively easy for our technology to build Avatars. The original genetic modifications made the Na'vi genotype readily adaptable to the changes required for the Avatar program. I've spent the last two years deciphering the technology that they used. It hasn't been easy – it is hundreds of years in advance of where Earth is right now, and somehow they linked it with Eywa. If not for that I could never have learnt what I have. (Shows amino pods.)}}


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* ...That is awesome.
* ...That is awesome.
* There should be a fanfic based on this theory.
* There should be a fanfic based on this theory.
** It would go something [http://www.fanfiction.net/s/6035126/1/bEywa_b_is_ba_b_bMother_b like this.]
** It would go something [https://web.archive.org/web/20190701001726/https://www.fanfiction.net/s/6035126/1/bEywa_b_is_ba_b_bMother_b like this.]
* Amusingly, this great entry not as much ''challenges'' the Avatar plot, but rather places a matrix of a realistic conflict over it. Think, every faction in every war had perfectly good reasons to fight (only in the last few centuries anyone even expressed the doubt that war wasn't just a honorable job for males). If you read into literature concerning real-life conflicts, you'll find that from the ideological standpoint the factions were opposed, but from utilitarian perspective they'd just pursue their practical agenda (not to be confused with conscious war-mongering for profit). So a spiritual, good-willing nation can be described as striving for living space and resources (and it really is, if just to remain a nation); and a vile, chauvinist, expansionist one can be described as maintaining its security (because «lesser» nations are theoretically able to become more advanced and challenge it etc.).
* Amusingly, this great entry not as much ''challenges'' the Avatar plot, but rather places a matrix of a realistic conflict over it. Think, every faction in every war had perfectly good reasons to fight (only in the last few centuries anyone even expressed the doubt that war wasn't just a honorable job for males). If you read into literature concerning real-life conflicts, you'll find that from the ideological standpoint the factions were opposed, but from utilitarian perspective they'd just pursue their practical agenda (not to be confused with conscious war-mongering for profit). So a spiritual, good-willing nation can be described as striving for living space and resources (and it really is, if just to remain a nation); and a vile, chauvinist, expansionist one can be described as maintaining its security (because «lesser» nations are theoretically able to become more advanced and challenge it etc.).
** The basic plot is pretty realistic already, unfortunately. "Advanced civilization first-world tries to trample over smaller, less advanced one to get at some resource, after a few half-measure attempts at diplomacy." There are tons of examples.
** The basic plot is pretty realistic already, unfortunately. "Advanced civilization first-world tries to trample over smaller, less advanced one to get at some resource, after a few half-measure attempts at diplomacy." There are tons of examples.
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== Somewhere in the sequels, Earth will have a [[Apocalypse How|Class 3]] [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79XKeJtY63E Terminator 3-style ending] ==
== Somewhere in the sequels, Earth will have a [[Apocalypse How|Class 3]] [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79XKeJtY63E Terminator 3-style ending] ==


* Think Terminator 3. Somebody sabotages a returning ISV, overloads, crashes into the moon, causes [[Death From Above]] and...extermination. [http://www.fanfiction.net/s/6074313/30/Oversway Read this fanfic chapter.]
* Think Terminator 3. Somebody sabotages a returning ISV, overloads, crashes into the moon, causes [[Death From Above]] and...extermination. [https://web.archive.org/web/20120422113331/http://www.fanfiction.net/s/6074313/30/Oversway Read this fanfic chapter.]
** To this troper, this is a [[Poison Oak Epileptic Trees]].<ref>[[Better to Die Than Be Killed|I'd rather suicide than have to go through that.]]</ref><ref>[[Alternate Character Interpretation|for showing the true potential evil of the na'vi.]]</ref>
** To this troper, this is a [[Poison Oak Epileptic Trees]].<ref>[[Better to Die Than Be Killed|I'd rather suicide than have to go through that.]]</ref><ref>[[Alternate Character Interpretation|for showing the true potential evil of the na'vi.]]</ref>
*** I challenge you to read the chapter with the [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upHOVfgYG_A T3 ending music playing]. If this is not at least a partial [[Tear Jerker]] for you, you are a ''soulless, misanthropic, genocidal, suicidal, extremely depressed na'vi.''
*** I challenge you to read the chapter with the [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upHOVfgYG_A T3 ending music playing]. If this is not at least a partial [[Tear Jerker]] for you, you are a ''soulless, misanthropic, genocidal, suicidal, extremely depressed na'vi.''
**** Waitaminnit. The humans killed a few hundred Na'vi. Eywa retaliates by ''wiping out all life on Earth.'' And this is even after Earth stops sending ships to Pandora. [[Disproportionate Retribution]] much? The real kicker? Eywa has decided that it's time to reach for the stars. That's right, the Na'vi are going to take this show on the road! Anybody get the feeling that any alien culture they come across is going to get "an offer they can't refuse?" If this isn't proof that Eywa is actually a time-shifted [[System Shock|Shodan]], I don't know what is.
**** Waitaminnit. The humans killed a few hundred Na'vi. Eywa retaliates by ''wiping out all life on Earth.'' And this is even after Earth stops sending ships to Pandora. [[Disproportionate Retribution]] much? The real kicker? Eywa has decided that it's time to reach for the stars. That's right, the Na'vi are going to take this show on the road! Anybody get the feeling that any alien culture they come across is going to get "an offer they can't refuse?" If this isn't proof that Eywa is actually a time-shifted [[System Shock|Shodan]], I don't know what is.
**** (WMG Author): For reference, the main character of the series was driven to Insanity early in the fanfic. The ending or even the character in the story can give off a strong sense of instability. What ''[[Kick the Dog|kicked]]'' me about the ending was that ''the Na'vi were happy about that'' and in the [http://www.fanfiction.net/s/6196051/1/Last_of_the_Uniltiranyu epilogue], they become ''more technological than us''. The idea of na'vi astronauts would make sense in that fanfic, but otherwise, no. I do not see any purpose of it.
**** (WMG Author): For reference, the main character of the series was driven to Insanity early in the fanfic. The ending or even the character in the story can give off a strong sense of instability. What ''[[Kick the Dog|kicked]]'' me about the ending was that ''the Na'vi were happy about that'' and in the [https://web.archive.org/web/20120422113334/http://www.fanfiction.net/s/6196051/1/Last_of_the_Uniltiranyu epilogue], they become ''more technological than us''. The idea of na'vi astronauts would make sense in that fanfic, but otherwise, no. I do not see any purpose of it.
**** Two words: Palulukan Sensei. RAEG does not even begin to describe my reaction.
**** Two words: Palulukan Sensei. RAEG does not even begin to describe my reaction.
**** As a side note, anyone find it ironic that the Na'vi develop spaceships and computers, albeit organic-based in construction? And through the Avatars intermingling with the Na'vi population, the genepool of Pandora's dominant species now contains human DNA? As much as the main character wanted to wipe out the tawtute to protect Pandora, the tawtute end up forever influencing and altering Na'vi culture from the moment the two species first met. I mean, until the humans cruised by in their [[IS Vs]], the Na'vi had no concern about the stars beyond "As long as they stay lit, we're cool." I suspect this may have been a gambit on Gaia's part to spread her existence beyond Earth by infiltrating Eywa's infrastructure, piece by piece, until the main character joins her ancestors and completes the process, overwriting Eywa's conscience and leaving Gaia in charge of a new world with amazing terraforming capabilities...one with interstellar capabilities. And it all started with Quaritch as her pawn...
**** As a side note, anyone find it ironic that the Na'vi develop spaceships and computers, albeit organic-based in construction? And through the Avatars intermingling with the Na'vi population, the genepool of Pandora's dominant species now contains human DNA? As much as the main character wanted to wipe out the tawtute to protect Pandora, the tawtute end up forever influencing and altering Na'vi culture from the moment the two species first met. I mean, until the humans cruised by in their [[IS Vs]], the Na'vi had no concern about the stars beyond "As long as they stay lit, we're cool." I suspect this may have been a gambit on Gaia's part to spread her existence beyond Earth by infiltrating Eywa's infrastructure, piece by piece, until the main character joins her ancestors and completes the process, overwriting Eywa's conscience and leaving Gaia in charge of a new world with amazing terraforming capabilities...one with interstellar capabilities. And it all started with Quaritch as her pawn...
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== Ewya will eat/upload Quaritch's brain, resulting in him taking over the planetary mind. ==
== Ewya will eat/upload Quaritch's brain, resulting in him taking over the planetary mind. ==
You know he's [[Badass]] enough to do it.
You know he's [[Badass]] enough to do it.
* [http://www.fanfiction.net/s/6250072/1/Too_Spicy_For_Eywa Part two] of the fanfic example under "Eywa's Xanatos Gambit" WMG at the top of the page
* [https://web.archive.org/web/20120415111244/http://www.fanfiction.net/s/6250072/1/Too_Spicy_For_Eywa Part two] of the fanfic example under "Eywa's Xanatos Gambit" WMG at the top of the page


== The Toruk is the previous Toruk Macto. ==
== The Toruk is the previous Toruk Macto. ==
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== Pandora is a reverse Earth. Eg. Civilization ==
== Pandora is a reverse Earth. Eg. Civilization ==
Pandora is a sci-fi version of our early Earth, so Earth in the movie could be the early Pandora. If that's true, maybe we're [[Not So Different]], after all. [http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5720324/7/Lifestone This fanfic] (Start from Jake) really supports the theory and even some of the fans have that idea.
Pandora is a sci-fi version of our early Earth, so Earth in the movie could be the early Pandora. If that's true, maybe we're [[Not So Different]], after all. [https://web.archive.org/web/20120429084406/http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5720324/7/Lifestone This fanfic] (Start from Jake) really supports the theory and even some of the fans have that idea.


== [[Alternate Character Interpretations]]: Is Jake Sully a [[Manipulative Bastard]]? ==
== [[Alternate Character Interpretations]]: Is Jake Sully a [[Manipulative Bastard]]? ==