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== Himaruya will choose the ponytail guy for Portugal ==

 

== Canada is... ==

** Haha, awesome. Of, course, though, the result will be that he'll go [[Badass]] and nobody will bother to see/hear/notice it happen.

 

 

== Lithuania is a [[Yandere]] and a convincing [[Stepford Smiler]]. ==

* On a related note, apparently Lithuania has the world's highest suicide rate. Make of that what you will.

 

== There used to be a ''lot'' of Korea in the anime... ==

* You have made my day.

... Secretly?

== Netherlands looks like America ==

** If the hair was parted like America's I could see it. Maybe he got Netherland's hair, a mix of Sweden and Finland's features (they mentioned finding him), and England's laws, governing ideals, and other features (whathaveyou)... the melting pot in full swing. Perhaps he has a bit from France too, who knows... Canada simply has more noticeable aspects of France and England because he was raised by them longer and the ethnic populations of Canada resemble them the most (French and English Canadians, respectively).

** In Hetalia, everyone has [[Only Six Faces]]. Of course they look alike.

** There were more Finns in New Sweden than Swedes, too.

== Poland isn't done developing his character ==

 

== All will not become one with Russia. All ''will'' become one with Belarus. ==

[[wikipedia:Pole, Hungarian, two good friends|Poland used to be (and still is) best friends with Hungary]]. Then Austria came into the picture and married Hungary, taking his wife to live with him. Poland was left bitter and jealous as a result and compensates by being clingy over the friends that he still has.

 

Because naming the personification of Finland anything other than the single most [[Badass]] sniper of WWII is a crime against history, fictional comic strip or not be damned (note: not actually being Finnish, I just think that this WMG would be totally bad ass. More historical information is needed to see this happen).

* Seconded. I also now have a mental image of Finland with a rifle and Russia looking uncharacteristically nervous.

**** On a related note Sniper!Finland is a fairly popular subject of fanart.

***** Links, ''please''. On [http://i408.photobucket.com/albums/pp169/Murasakinekomata/Hetalia/114491592.jpg another related note] (mildly NSFW due to [[Cluster F-Bomb|gratuitous use of the F-Word]]).

******* [[Finns With Fearsome Forests]] ?

 

== Katyusha is actually the current Ukrainian Prime Minister Yulia Timoshenko in disguise ==

* your mileage may vary, though. [[Beware the Nice Ones|Still...]]

* Her name's not Katyusha and her hair was only braided in childhood. She's shown being hysterically obedient to her boss-of-the-moment, while Tymoshenko and former president Yushchenko had a significant falling-out.

== Holy Roman Empire is actually a girl, and is not Germany. ==

She is, instead, Liechtenstein. The tiny country has been described as the last remnant of the Holy Roman Empire. There are some awesome one-shots out there that explore this.

* [[Jossed]] definitively. Not only is HRE constantly referred to as male, there's even a strip where he runs away from Chibitalia because of an erection.

** Liechtenstein is female, there's just way too much evidence to question that one. And considering there's also a mountain of evidence for HRE being a male, this theory is [[Jossed]] for good.

 

== It's South Italy who represents the country - North has the same status as Prussia. ==

* In connection, the explanation goes along the lines of why Prussia (as East Germany) still would be alive after the fall of the Berlin wall. The nations, perhaps, are more representative of their cultures than of their specific landmasses. As long as major cultural differences exist, then so will that particular nation-tan. And, since North and South Italy are still quite different places that make up a whole, they both represent their country simultaneously.

* It's possible that ''South'' has the same status as Prussia: Berlin and Brandenburg are both found in East Germany, after all...

== Australia's human name is Bruce ==

Why mess with a perfectly good stereotype, especially since it's Hetalia we're talking about.

** Ladies and gentleman! Introducing: Bruce "Oz" Oswald, AKA Australia!

*** Somehow I would have thought Australia's last name would be Kelly, after Ned Kelly. How can you NOT name Australia after the father of Badassry in his land? Also the surname Kelly is in the top ten most common surnames in Australia still, so it is contempory too.

**** Bruce Oswald "Oz" Kelly. We all win.

 

== The Vatican is father of both Italies. ==

== Taiwan once pretended to be China in UN meetings. ==

* There is a good reason why Taiwan has the same [[Yuki Kaida|VA]] as China's. By altering her voice, Taiwan can get away with cosplaying as China in UN meetings. After all, Taiwan called herself the Republic of China. However, the real China found out about her ruse and begged the other nations to kick her out of the UN.

 

== Canada is a seekret [[Yandere]] ==

 

== Mother Greece's name is Helen. ==

** "Hellenistic Greece" is actually a period of Ancient Greece. And by your logic, Greece should be named Helen as well, since the country's official name is Hellenic Republic, "Hellas" being the Greek word for Greece. (Needless to say, the words "Hellas" and "Helene" are not related.)

 

* Which would, by extension, make America/Alfred an [[Alternate Universe]] Chris. Hey, it kind of works......!

** Not quite. Chris is Meg's younger brother, and Canada is ''younger'' than America.

***** By that logic, America wouldn't have been born until the revolution began (which obviously wasn't the case). The French founded Canada back in 1534 which, even if we take America's birth as the earliest colony founded within his future territory, makes Canada nearly a century the senior.

****** But America was discovered in 1492. Shouldn't that make America older than Canada?

******* You're confusing the Americas with the US, and discovery with colonization. Columbus landed in what is now the Bahamas, and he pillaged but he didn't colonize. Even if he did, it wouldn't have affected the development of the character America. Even Columbus wasn't the first to discover the Americas, that honor is more correctly attributed to Vikings. Who, by the way, landed in what is now Canada.

********* It's still Canadian, now, which was the point they were trying to make.

 

Though of course, his character design stays male. At least this would appease the Korean [[Moral Guardians]].

* The problem with that theory is that the Fem!Korean was put into Himaruya's short-lived comic MoeKan. Unlike Hetalia, which is an [[Affectionate Parody]], MoeKan is pretty insulting in regards to Koreans (that is, when put in comparison). Like the Koreans investigating Hetalia when the anime was announced, they'd probably investigate MoeKan and get even madder.

 

 

== Greece is the father of the Italy brothers and doesn't know it ==

Italy Veneziano sometimes represents the Duchy of Milan and sometimes the Republic of Venice. Italy Romano corresponds more or less to the Kingdom of Sicily/Naples/Two Sicilies.

What occupied the Italian Peninsula between the fall of Rome and the creation of these states?

* The series seems to very purposely side-steps direct descending, though. It could simply be allusion to the fact that that there are many, many things which lead to a nation being formed, and that the 'relatives' only were a prime aid in that. Considering characters never mention parents (I've never seen any talk of it, but then I could have skimmed over that), maybe none of them actually have those relations...

** Greece does. Ancient Greece has been referred to as his mother repeatedly.

** I drew up a [http://a.imageshack.us/img529/9178/font1.png family tree] for Western Europe, to the best of my ability. I left out some familial links that would be important, and I didn't do the Slavic countries or Scandinavia, because that's beyond my comprehension of how they relate to each other. Tell me what you think.

*** [[Sincerity Mode|I like it]]. It has a few areas that I'd argue on, but those would probably be just nitpicking<ref>Since Canada is portrayed as equally British and French, and since Quebec-kun has never been more than a bad dream of Canada's, I'd place English Canada & Quebec together on one line, but distinct from one another, both to show "a nation within a nation" and the fact that Canada is basically portrayed as Britain and France's colonial-era lovechild in [[Fanon]]. As well, Canada would also be closer to both Britain and France with America on the other side, due to the close ties Canada had with both nations.</ref>. Scandinavia would probably fit in as a direct relative of Germania. Germanic culture started in Scandinavia and far-northern Germany, so the current Scandinavian nations would likely be cousins or uncles of the Germanic nations seen in the strips.

 

== New Zealand's gender will NEVER be revealed. ==

* As a New Zealander I fully support this, if only for the [[Rule of Funny]].

** If [http://blog-imgs-26-origin.fc2.com/h/i/m/himaruya/hj3.jpg this] is anything to go by, this may even be canon (Text Translation: What do you think I am?)

 

== Canada's ahoge is Quebec. ==

It sticks out and pretty much demands to be noticed, it helps set Canada apart from his brother America, [[Incredibly Lame Pun|it's kinda loopy]], but it doesn't wanna detach itself from Canada's head.

** No, that was just a nightmare Canada had. There may or may not be an actual Quebec character.

*** Provinces are canon, first off. But, with how much Quebec enjoys rebelling against/clinging off/annoying the rest of Canada, he probably has a lot of nightmares about his wayward province.

*** A coverup? Or maybe mistaken sex?

**** A cover up from who? For what reason? There's no point. And the Nordics (most of them, anyway) have been together for well over a millennia. Especially considering one of them is a hyperactive loud-mouth with little regard for other's wants, it would have come out and stayed out.<br />We still don't know China's sex for certain, but these speculations are getting out of hand. Yes, there was gender confusion in the series, but it was on two young children (who we already knew the real sex of, by the way) when all the discussion is on grown men. Just because you can apply such a concept to a few characters doesn't mean that everyone who isn't [[Rated "M" for Manly]] should be automatically suspected.

 

== Spain controls Paul the Octopus. ==

** But with Korea, they cut out all of the strips. If they foresee a serious problem with any character, they'd probably just follow the exact same pattern.

*** Particularly to avoid the [[Unfortunate Implications]] of portraying a group who isn't exactly happy with your series as subhuman.

 

== Austria is a Pianist from [[Elona]]. ==

Netherlands is. The nation-tan's height is supposed to be based off the average for its country, right? In that case, Netherlands would be the tallest, taller than Russia and Sweden.

* If its based on average height then Canada would be the second tallest which would coincidentally also work in regards to country size because he's the second largest country on the planet.

 

== Turkey raped Hungary ==

* (number two) Her settling down into a maid and marrying/maintaining a relationship with Austria, whose gentle, refined demeanor makes him probably the male character most unlike Turkey.

* (number five) Her reaction to Austria being sexually harassed and the whole [[Yaoi Fangirl]] [[Covert Pervert]] thing.

* This theory makes too much sense for my liking. I will say that I seem to remember Hungary having a happy little giggle to herself at the end of the strip mentioned, which doesn't seem like all that natural a response, even if she didn't fully understand what had happened.

 

He finally cracks and goes insane after one too many incidents of being mistaken for America, changes his name and appearance, adopts 'in America!' as his catchphrase, and becomes obsessed with a Japanese childrens' card game, like real Americans do (cough[[Tabletop Games|Pokémon]]intheninetiescoughhackwheeze). It all makes sense now. In America.

 

== Canada is the reason America is scared of ghosts ==

Canada borrows something and America thinks it's vanished. Canada puts something back in the wrong place and America thinks it moved on its own. Canada tries to talk to America and America hears mysterious whispering noises. Despite being barely visible, Canada successfully emotionally scarred his brother.

* Best WMG ever.

 

 

== Similar to a previous guess: As France's genes were stronger than England's (in America's birth), ''Germany's'' genes were stronger than France's in the case of Cameroon. ==

 

== Austria and Monaco are in-universe genderbends of each other. ==

 

Also it would be awesome.

 

== Poland tried to bring the other Eastern European nations to his own territory after World War I to act as buffer to both Germany and Russia. ==

* I can see the history behind this one, since Poland did have pieces of what became Ukrainian and Belorussian territory. However, it seems more likely that he took over pieces of their territory to act as a buffer against all of them, rather than try to start a new empire (the last time he tried, he ended up losing Lithuania to Russia, followed by losing his own independence).

 

.. Or she's just transgender, gender queer maybe.

* Well, she was originally supposed to be a guy, I think. Poland was gonna be a girl, but instead he was made into a crossdresser. So anything's possible.

* I agree that they look more female than male. I hope they are, because Hetalia needs more girls.

* Also, New Zealand was the first country in the world to allow women to vote. I hope New Zealand's a girl. A kickass one at that.

 

== Canada was supposed to be a main character from the first episode. ==

* Canada's accomplishments were considered British because the nation was a commonwealth at the time. This status makes him on par with countries like Australia and South Africa, who also don't get much more than a nod despite their efforts. In Hetalia terms, I'd say Canada probably rarely (if ever) was allowed to attend those meetings, and he was instructed later by UK. When he managed to get in, he probably had no option but to keep his mouth shut (which we see). That he fought in attacks isn't unlikely, but they would still be British efforts because he was British.

** Also, the idea of 'they show up, therefore they are main characters' kind of makes [[Red Shirts]] main characters, too.

*** Well, this ''is'' [[Loads and Loads of Characters|Hetalia]], the line between "Main Character" and "[[Red Shirt]]" can get pretty blurry. The argument was really that Canada being under British rule for much of its history (note: this is just me being pedantic, but Canada was a "Dominion", part of the British Empire - later the "Commonwealth") and later with American influence taking its place, which is why he was so meek and thus overlooked at the meetings. England never told him not to talk, he just couldn't see him at all, just like the rest of the characters couldn't see him.

**** Despite the large cast, the 8 main characters have always been well defined. I think, considering Canada's role in the series and his invisibility through history, 'minor character' is a very fitting term.

 

== Belgium actually represents only one region. ==

* Or, she only represents Flanders, as she is described as Holland's sister

 

 

== Estonia is insane ==

 

== Why Belarus might hate Lithuania ==

It's been said that she has been hurting Lithuania long since he became Russia's subordinate. Back when Lithuania was powerful, the states that would later become Belarus were conquered and became Lithuanian territory. In-universe, this could be the equivalent of him forcibly taking her from her siblings. It was only centuries later, in 1795 that she was able to return home when Poland was partitioned. Spending such a long time away from family must have been unbearable. The fact that Russia seems to favour Lithuania over her would make it even worse. The above could also explain why she is so desperate to marry Russia: because he is strong, she wants security and she never wants to be separated from him again.

 

[[media:WINDOWS_IS_A_SHIPPER_9700.png|Proof.]]

 

Himaruya has said that the Baltic States aren't brothers. It makes sense that Estonia isn't related to Lithuania and Latvia, as Estonia is Baltic geographically, but Finnic in terms of language, culture, etc. However, Latvia should be related to Lithuania in some way, as Latvian is a Baltic language. Latvia may not be Lithuania's brother, but he could definitely be Lithuania's nephew.

 

 

Latvia is the son of one of these extinct Baltic states, likely Latgalia.

 

== Canada and Ukraine have a long-term romantic relationship with each other. ==

* Alberta having been created on the same day as Saskatchewan would be one of Ukraine and Canada's twins and well Manitoba has loads of Ukrainians too. Perhaps the prairie provinces are all their children?

 

* Belarus x Canada?

 

Historically, it would be pretty accurate. Early Australia as the country it was (I'm basically thinking Federation to [[WW 2]], even though Australia-tan would most likely have existed before that) was still ''very'' much obsessed with it's Britishness, and under British control. The only reason wee really federated in the first place was because of White Australia's fear of the influx of migrants (particularly the Chinese) thanks to the Gold Rush, so Australia became a country so we could have an immigration policy. Stuff like the White Australia policy was largely about staying the white, ''British'' colony we were founded as, one of our Prime Ministers justifying the policy as essential to "Australia remaining the integral southern outpost of the British Empire," or something like that. We never actually declared war in [[WW 1]], 'cause it was assumed we'd be at war just because England was. Another one of our Prime Ministers said "Australians are British to their bootstraps". When the Balfour Declaration was made in the early thirties, declaring all of their dominions autonomous and such - including Australia - Australia actually ''resisted'', and refused to ratify the treaty until 1942. That was after Darwin had been bombed, Britain had a lot of our troops and refused to give them back, pissing Australia off and pretty much ending the crush. But I can see Australia-tan following England around to almost Belarus-levels, switching between "TAKE CARE OF ME I NEED YOU DON'T EVER LEAVE", "LET ME DO THAT FOR YOU BECAUSE I LOVE YOU AND WANT TO BE A GOOD DOMINION", and some kind of [[Single White Female|Single White Nation-tan]] [[Buffy-Speak|thing]]. England would probably originally be flattered by Australia's attention/devotion, but eventually be a bit like "um, you can... be a little more independent now, okay? I don't mind." And Australia's like "No. *glomp*"

** I always imagined England wouldn't have been a great parent to Australia, after his experience with America, so I can see Australia developing a bit of an inferiority complex and feeling a need to prove what a good little brother he is, which could evolve into an obsession. Since Australians are probably the people most likely to get a warm welcome by Brits, England probably decided he'd take whatever affection he could get.

 

== If there's a direct sequel to ''Paint it White,'' the antagonists would be... ==

** What about the non-UN member nations? It would be hilarious if Taiwan was the one leading them.

 

== Zealand's gender will get confirmed eventually, after being a [[Running Gag]]. ==

== Korean Spirit = Korean Soul = Seoul ==

Am I really the only one who thought this? Really?

 

== Sealand is the next Canada ==

Historically, "Southern Italy" was essentially Sicily, Naples, and eventuallt the Kingdom of Two Sicilys, and it's still an autonomous region with a distinct language and culture. It's also the place most strongly associated with [[The Mafia]].

 

It's mentioned that the God Emperor of Mankind was born in Anatolia, where Turkey would later emerge. So maybe Turkey got on his good side at some point, over time assuming different identities until he became known as the Imperium.

 

** [[Japanese Ranguage|Note that the /l/ and /r/ sounds are interchangeable in Japanese; Hawkeye's first name is sometimes spelled "Liza" or "Lisa" in the manga.]]

* The only problem: Hawkeye wouldn't be too happy about Roy/Ed.

* Or that both of them look hot in ''and'' out of uniform?

 

 

== Romano ships China and England ==

 

== In ''[[The Movie|Paint it White]],'' Switzerland and Liechtenstein were spared the [[Alien Invasion]] for more than just Permanent Neutrality. ==

 

== India is actually a [[Bifauxnen]] ==

* I thought they might be similar in that both of them are known for having spicy cuisine?

 

 

== HRE became Schroder from [[Peanuts]] ==

 

== Canada in the [[Code Geass]] Universe is actually the Holy Britannian Empire. ==

* Except that Canada was not ''founded'' by Loyalists at all. It was the refuge they went to when America broke away, but they didn't start it. It had been around for a while - Britain took the already-established colony from France initially.

 

We've seen that his laptop is covered in Pokemon stickers, most noticeably Pikachu and what appears to be Woobat. Plus, he was playing a Pokemon game on a Gameboy (hard core gamer, much?) and introduced himself to Denmark by saying, [[Memetic Mutation|"I'm the internet country Ladonia! My favorite Pokemon is Stunfisk!"]]

 

Assuming Japan's not his Dark!self, it's hard to picture him being directly intentionally abusive. The Japanese did bring a lot of new tech over to Korea (which Korea now insists he did himself), so it's possible to imagine Japan severely restricting Korea's freedom while giving him lots of cool stuff to try and win him over and not believing him if Korea tried to tell him what was being done to his people. Of course Korea's still pretty damn miserable whether Japan means well or not.

 

C'mon, everypony was thinking it...

* What about the rest of the Mane 6? It's fairly obvious that we have Twilight Sparkle=England(Magic anyone?) and Rainbow Dash=America (The 'Hero' of their respective groups).

 

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