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* [[Alternative Character Interpretation]] - Beyond merely finding Aerie annoyingly whiny, the most extreme opinion believes that she says all her apparently caring lines just to appear sweet, that her comments about how miserable it is to be stuck on the ground indicate she looks down on everyone else, that her real personality is only revealed the few times she loses her nerve and gets mad, and so on.

* [[Angst? What Angst?]] - Like most of the cast, Mazzy has quite a tragic backstory, but despite seeing her former adventuring companions [[Tragic Monster|turned into horrid undead monsters]], and feeling responsible for their deaths, she's remarkably un-angsty about it.

* [[~~Big~~ ~~Lipped~~ ~~Alligator Moment~~]]: When you manage to invade Abazigals lair, you have to retrieve a scroll of reversal in order to free the dragon who is guarding the entrance to the heart of the lair, who is trapped under a geas. The quest involves sending 3 "Adventurers" to retrieve a Gauth eye stalk for the mad wizard who possesses the scroll. Yet when they return they decide, for seemingly no reason at all, to attack the party, your character instantly transforms into the slayer and kills all 3 of them, which you have no control over as it is played as a cut scene. Then it fades out and shows them returning again, but this time they don't attack you and hand over the eye stalk, and the fact that they attacked you and you killed them is never mentioned or bought up again, and you have no opportunity to call them out on it.

* [[Non Sequitur Scene]]: When you manage to invade Abazigals lair, you have to retrieve a scroll of reversal in order to free the dragon who is guarding the entrance to the heart of the lair, who is trapped under a geas. The quest involves sending 3 "Adventurers" to retrieve a Gauth eye stalk for the mad wizard who possesses the scroll. Yet when they return they decide, for seemingly no reason at all, to attack the party, your character instantly transforms into the slayer and kills all 3 of them, which you have no control over as it is played as a cut scene. Then it fades out and shows them returning again, but this time they don't attack you and hand over the eye stalk, and the fact that they attacked you and you killed them is never mentioned or bought up again, and you have no opportunity to call them out on it.

* [[Breather Boss]]: {{spoiler|Winski's Cambion}} in the first game. After a dungeon full of [[Demonic Spider~~|Demonic Spiders~~]] and deathtraps, facing a boss whose only tactic is simply to charge into melee combat is surprisingly refreshing.

* [[Breather Boss]]: {{spoiler|Winski's Cambion}} in the first game. After a dungeon full of [[Demonic Spider]]s and deathtraps, facing a boss whose only tactic is simply to charge into melee combat is surprisingly refreshing.

* [[Canon Defilement]]: The novels. Dear ''god'', the novels. It'd be easier to make a list of what they get right then what they got wrong.

* [[Complete Monster]]: Several of the villains, major and minor.

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** Imoen, in sort of an inversion of a [[Creator's Pet]]. The writers never seemed particularly fond of her, and in fact {{spoiler|wanted to kill her off in the second game}}, but she was so popular with fans they reconsidered.

** Minsc is probably the most popular character in the series, all things considered.

** Quite a few people were disappointed Xan didn't make it into the sequel. He makes the most of his screen time in the tutorial, ~~where--judging~~ by his ~~delivery--he~~ seems to find teaching the basics of magic to CHARNAME ''incredibly'' tedious.

** Quite a few people were disappointed Xan didn't make it into the sequel. He makes the most of his screen time in the tutorial, where—judging by his delivery—he seems to find teaching the basics of magic to CHARNAME ''incredibly'' tedious.

** Paladins tend not to be particularly popular characters in these types of stories, being cartoonishly uptight, cardboard [[Knight in Shining Armor|Knights In Shining Armor]] most of the time, but lots of players feel Keldorn's an extremely well-written character who retains the essence of the character type while subverting the flatter and more stereotypical aspects of it. Gods bless the [[Video Game Caring Potential]]. And now there are even mods making him a possible [[~~May-December~~ Romance|romance option]]!

** Paladins tend not to be particularly popular characters in these types of stories, being cartoonishly uptight, cardboard [[Knight in Shining Armor|Knights In Shining Armor]] most of the time, but lots of players feel Keldorn's an extremely well-written character who retains the essence of the character type while subverting the flatter and more stereotypical aspects of it. Gods bless the [[Video Game Caring Potential]]. And now there are even mods making him a possible [[May–December Romance|romance option]]!

** Lilarcor isn't even an NPC. He's a flavor weapon that gained so much popularity that the fans treated him as a core party member and created mods which let him interact with the world around him. There's even an [[Elder Scrolls]] mod out there which lets you use him in [[Morrowind]].

* [[Even Better Sequel]]: ''Baldur's Gate II'' is far and away one of the most uncontested examples of this trope, improving upon almost every conceivable facet of what was already considered great.

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** To an even greater extent, Alora.

{{quote|'''Alora:''' ''I'm so sweet, I've got rotting teeth and gums!''}}

* [[Tear Jerker]]: Brage, former captain of the Amnish guard and an all around decent ~~guy--until~~ he obtains a cursed sword of berserking. The curse drives him to kill his entire family, a merchant caravan (both people and horses), and who knows how many other people in between by the time you catch up to him. If you choose to return him to the Temple of Helm, Brage will be horrified by what he's done (even though he couldn't control it) and say that he no longer wants to live. Nalin, the priest, instead insists he atone for it all.

* [[Tear Jerker]]: Brage, former captain of the Amnish guard and an all around decent guy—until he obtains a cursed sword of berserking. The curse drives him to kill his entire family, a merchant caravan (both people and horses), and who knows how many other people in between by the time you catch up to him. If you choose to return him to the Temple of Helm, Brage will be horrified by what he's done (even though he couldn't control it) and say that he no longer wants to live. Nalin, the priest, instead insists he atone for it all.

** Yoshimo's death.

* [[Rescued from the Scrappy Heap]] - Say what folks will about Aerie in BG2, they tend to be much more forgiving about her in ToB.