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** Ivy's [[Odango]] hairstyle and green jumpsuit just looks silly.
** Ivy's [[Odango]] hairstyle and green jumpsuit just looks silly.
** Also, Poison Ivy's first evil entrance has her dancing erotically in a gorilla suit before revealing herself.
** Also, Poison Ivy's first evil entrance has her dancing erotically in a gorilla suit before revealing herself.
{{quote| '''Robin''': "[[Incredibly Lame Pun|Gorilla my dreams]]..."}}
{{quote|'''Robin''': "[[Incredibly Lame Pun|Gorilla my dreams]]..."}}
*** This may be a [[Shout-Out]] to, of all things, Marlene Dietrich in the movie [[Blonde Venus]] in which she does the same thing.
*** This may be a [[Shout-Out]] to, of all things, Marlene Dietrich in the movie [[Blonde Venus]] in which she does the same thing.
* [[Fight Scene Failure]]: Batman uses the Force Kick technique on one of Mr. Freeze's henchman in the fight for the Wayne Diamonds.
* [[Fight Scene Failure]]: Batman uses the Force Kick technique on one of Mr. Freeze's henchman in the fight for the Wayne Diamonds.
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* [[Hollywood Pudgy]]: While the ''film'' averts this by never pointing it out, Alicia Silverstone had noticeably put on weight since her fame peaked, and the press had a field day with it at the time of the film's release.
* [[Hollywood Pudgy]]: While the ''film'' averts this by never pointing it out, Alicia Silverstone had noticeably put on weight since her fame peaked, and the press had a field day with it at the time of the film's release.
* [[Ho Yay]]: Undertones of it are pretty much undeniable between the title characters. Supposedly, George Clooney retroactively claims he played Batman as gay (although it seems more of a [[Take That]] against said undertones than anything with truth in it).
* [[Ho Yay]]: Undertones of it are pretty much undeniable between the title characters. Supposedly, George Clooney retroactively claims he played Batman as gay (although it seems more of a [[Take That]] against said undertones than anything with truth in it).
{{quote| '''Dick Grayson''': You're just saying that so I can't kiss her, is that it?<br />
{{quote|'''Dick Grayson''': You're just saying that so I can't kiss her, is that it?
'''Bruce Wayne''': Listen, Dick, it's a poisonous kiss.<br />
'''Bruce Wayne''': Listen, Dick, it's a poisonous kiss.
'''Dick Grayson''': A poisonous kiss? You don't understand. She understands how I feel.<br />
'''Dick Grayson''': A poisonous kiss? You don't understand. She understands how I feel.
'''Bruce Wayne''': She has clouded your mind and you're not thinking straight.<br />
'''Bruce Wayne''': She has clouded your mind and you're not thinking straight.
'''Dick Grayson''': I ''am'' thinking straight. For the first time in a long time. }}
'''Dick Grayson''': I ''am'' thinking straight. For the first time in a long time. }}
* [[Ink Stain Adaptation]]
* [[Ink Stain Adaptation]]
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** Pretty much anything that Schwarzenegger says, due to the sheer lameness of his puns.
** Pretty much anything that Schwarzenegger says, due to the sheer lameness of his puns.
* [[Never Live It Down]]: Joel Schumacher has been forever associated with this film and while he's still working (his biggest effort since is the movie version of ''[[The Phantom of the Opera]]'' musical), despite his strong resume before the ''[[Batman]]'' franchise he's more a B-list than A-list director now. He's also frequently [[Mis Blamed]]... um, even by himself, apparently, taking full responsibility in interviews for all of its problems ("If you don't like the movie, blame the director" he said at one point). By contrast, the screenwriter Akiva Goldsman had no setbacks at all and even went on to win an Oscar for his script for ''[[A Beautiful Mind]]''. Producer Peter MacGregor-Scott is almost completely unknown despite arguably having more to do with the quality of the film than anyone else.
* [[Never Live It Down]]: Joel Schumacher has been forever associated with this film and while he's still working (his biggest effort since is the movie version of ''[[The Phantom of the Opera]]'' musical), despite his strong resume before the ''[[Batman]]'' franchise he's more a B-list than A-list director now. He's also frequently [[Mis Blamed]]... um, even by himself, apparently, taking full responsibility in interviews for all of its problems ("If you don't like the movie, blame the director" he said at one point). By contrast, the screenwriter Akiva Goldsman had no setbacks at all and even went on to win an Oscar for his script for ''[[A Beautiful Mind]]''. Producer Peter MacGregor-Scott is almost completely unknown despite arguably having more to do with the quality of the film than anyone else.
{{quote| [[Robot Chicken|Joel Schumacher is history's]] [[Serious Business|Greatest Monster!]].}}
{{quote|[[Robot Chicken|Joel Schumacher is history's]] [[Serious Business|Greatest Monster!]].}}
** The combination of this film and the equally disastrous ''[[The Avengers (1998 film)|The Avengers 1998]]'' knocked Uma Thurman back for a few years. She was eventually able to subvert this, but it took several years and the ''[[Kill Bill]]'' movies to do so.
** The combination of this film and the equally disastrous ''[[The Avengers (1998 film)|The Avengers 1998]]'' knocked Uma Thurman back for a few years. She was eventually able to subvert this, but it took several years and the ''[[Kill Bill]]'' movies to do so.
*** Alicia Silverstone and Chris O' Donnell both seemed to drop off the A-list soon after this movie.
*** Alicia Silverstone and Chris O' Donnell both seemed to drop off the A-list soon after this movie.
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* [[Took the Bad Film Seriously]]: Michael Gough, despite a very [[One-Scene Wonder|limited screen time]], gives a genuinely heartwarming performance as {{spoiler|a [[Soap Opera Disease|terminally ill]]}} Alfred Pennyworth. It is one of the few things about the movie that can be enjoyed at face value. It helps that he had goodwill built up from his presence in the previous three films.
* [[Took the Bad Film Seriously]]: Michael Gough, despite a very [[One-Scene Wonder|limited screen time]], gives a genuinely heartwarming performance as {{spoiler|a [[Soap Opera Disease|terminally ill]]}} Alfred Pennyworth. It is one of the few things about the movie that can be enjoyed at face value. It helps that he had goodwill built up from his presence in the previous three films.
* [[Villain Decay]]: This movie takes Bane, one of Batman's most strategically successful enemies in the comics, and turns him into a [[Pokémon-Speak|Pokemon Speaking]] caveman.
* [[Villain Decay]]: This movie takes Bane, one of Batman's most strategically successful enemies in the comics, and turns him into a [[Pokémon-Speak|Pokemon Speaking]] caveman.
{{quote| "BANE!"}}
{{quote|"BANE!"}}
* [[Wangst]]: Robin seems to spend a good chunk of the movie complaining about something or other.
* [[Wangst]]: Robin seems to spend a good chunk of the movie complaining about something or other.
* [[WTH? Casting Agency]]: [[Arnold Schwarzenegger]] as Mr. Freeze. Schumacher wanted a man who looked like he was "chiseled out of ice," so Arnold was high on his list, but those with familiarity with the source character tend to have this reaction.
* [[WTH? Casting Agency]]: [[Arnold Schwarzenegger]] as Mr. Freeze. Schumacher wanted a man who looked like he was "chiseled out of ice," so Arnold was high on his list, but those with familiarity with the source character tend to have this reaction.