Ben 10: Ultimate Alien/WMG: Difference between revisions

* Ultimate [[Big Creepy -Crawlies|Stinkfly]]: Dragonfly based

* Ultimate [[Gemstone Assault|Diamondhead]]: [http://en.[wikipedia.org/wiki/Boron_nitride:Boron nitride|Harder then Diamond]] more angular design

* Ultimate [[Hyper -Destructive Bouncing Ball|Cannonbolt]] (Canon): His shell turns steel-colored, becomes stronger, and gains spikes.

* Ultimate [[Extreme Omnivore|Upchuck]]: {{Pokemon [[Pokémon|Design becomes similar to Swalot.}}]]

* Ultimate [[Attack of the 50 -Foot Whatever|Way Big]] (Canon): Most of his white coloring turns blue, he gains two small additional horns on his head, and has enhanced cosmic powers.

* Ultimate [[Everything's Better Withwith Monkeys|Spidermonkey]]: (Canon): Turns into a purple and black gorilla with narrow eyes, trades two of his four arms for spider legs on his back for enhanced strength, and with his tail being absent, has a splitting jaw for enhanced webbing.

* Ultimate [[Bigfoot, Sasquatch, and Yeti|Shocksquatch]]:

** This should be on the [[Ben 10: Alien Force (Animation)/WMG|WMG for Alien Force.]] Odds are, Verdona was in the form of something, probably a human, which had DNA when Gwen and Ben's parents were born. How the powers got passed down is still anyone's guess.

** Or that it's simply a skill. It's at least implied that he watched Gwen doing it for years and figure out how it's done. We know from Charmcaster that being an Annodite isn't a pre-requisite for casting spells it just helps you get better faster.

** Aggregor ''does'' seem quite intrigued by the Ultimatrix, but he intended to use it to force Ben into the shape he wants to steal powers from, rather than absorbing them directly from the device itself.

* [[Jossed]]. Turns out Aggregor's master plan was to journey to the home of the Celestialsapiens, i.e. Alien X's race, and absorb an infant Celestialsapien (because baby Celestialsapiens lack multiple personalities) thus becoming an omnipotent uber-being easily capable of taking over the universe.

...To unlock some kind of [[Plot Tailored to Thethe Party|Eigen locked]] [[Lost Technology|Lost Osmosian Technology]]. Maybe some kind of [[Reverse Polarity|projector that]] {{spoiler|[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php[Doctor Who/Recap/DoctorWhoNSS4E17E18TheEndOfTimeS30/E17 E18 The End of Time|copies over other peoples' bodies and personalities with the user's]].}}

== Kevin [[Hellboy (Comic Bookcomics)|cuts off his antlers]]. ==

* He's [[Hellboy (Comic Bookcomics)|Hellboy]]?

** Well there's always [[Getting Crap Past the Radar]] and [[Incest Is Relative]]. [[Batman: The Animated Series (Animation)|It wouldn't be the first time we had a somewhat taboo relationship in a children's cartoon, anyway.]]

* Jossed in "Fused"- Ben, Gwen, and Kevin ''do'' try and take Aggegor when he comes for R'aad, but they don't call for the plumbers and get their butts kicked (though a rather poor choice of aliens on Ben's part, along with some jerkassery from R'aad, didn't help).

The government -- or a small-but-powerful extremist faction of the government -- doesn't trust Ben one lick and wants the power of the Ultimatrix to itself. Will Harangue is one of their pawns in the media that is working to give [[Hero Withwith Bad Publicity|Ben a bad name]] and make the public turn on him, hoping to force him into hiding -- or seeking protection, playing right into the government's hands. This is why he is able to get away with absolutely INSANE stunts that would get his ass arrested and pitched in jail under ''any'' other circumstances -- he has VERY powerful friends.

Gwen and Kevin are definitely in a rough patch and have had some argument ''every episode'', and Ben is {{spoiler|going on a date with some actress, so Julie is getting the boot}}. This troper loves the main couples, so this troper is rather sad. And more than a little PO'd at the male ''idiocy'' of this show. Seriously, ''so'' grateful that they only got [[Teen Titans (Animationanimation)|Robin and Starfire]] (created by the same people) together ''after'' the show ended!

* [[Jossed]], at least in Ben and Julie's case; Ben only went out with Jennifer Nocturne for publicity reasons and to get close to Captain Nemesis, and {{spoiler|once Nemesis goes bad and threatens Julie, Ben goes completely ape on him, and even makes a point of rescuing her over Nocturne.}}

** Alternately, something happened in the Null Void that split original series Kevin in two- the Kevin from Alien Force and Ultimate Alien, who got the original's memories and whatever real human feelings he was repressing, and the purely evil Aggregor. At this point, Aggregor possibly has amnesia about the event and Kevin ''definitely'' does (or at least didn't realize what really happened); [[The Reveal]] will come in the season finale.

** Partially confirmed, as Ultimate Ben, the future Ben was able to use Anodite powers.

* In Ben 10, 000 returns, the older Ben was able to use Anodite powers as Ultimate Ben.

** If the Omnitrix used the human as base form and alien as template to be applied, then improving oneself physcially would be beneficial. The mental side may be a time issue or laziness as Ben has shown he is pretty smart and was paying attention when things were said.

* We don't know how Gwen and Kevin met between ''[[Ben 10 (Animation)|Ben 10]]'' and ''[[Ben 10: Alien Force (Animation)|Ben 10 Alien Force]]''. One of Gwen's [[Magic Misfire]] incidents accidentally let Kevin free. When she saw an unconscious boy suddenly in front of her, Gwen went over and put her hand on his shoulder, turning him over to look at his face. Kevin was semiconscious and had his eyes closed, but Gwen recognized him and probably got the hell out of there. In Episode 1 of Alien Force, Gwen was the one to exclaim and stare at him for a few seconds. Kevin did the same thing, but ''only after Gwen touched him on the shoulder''.

** [[Word of God]] is that Charmcaster won't be staying an ally (meaning she'll be either stuck in her world or coerced back into evil by Hex or something.) {{spoiler|And it's all a moot point now, anyway, since Kevin powered up, beat Aggregor, drained ''his'' powers, and went [[Ax Crazy]] again in the process}}.

* Obviously, the current arc has a strong Kevin focus, what with the explanation of the nature of his powers and previous insanity, the [[Big Bad]] being his [[Evil Counterpart]] {{spoiler|and now him going [[Ax Crazy]] and mutated again}}. [[Word of God]] has dropped hints that the next season will be a Forever Knights storyline, which seems like it could have a straightforward focus on Ben (since the Knights have been some of Ben's most recurring villains since the first season of the first show- this could also involve more Grandpa Max). A hypothetical third season with a Gwen focus could feature a powered up Hex as [[Big Bad]] (possibly after he reconquers Ledgerdomain, if some of the above [[WMG|WMGs]] are true) with Charmcaster as [[Dragon Withwith an Agenda]] and/or [[Wild Card]].

* Semi-[[Jossed]]. He says that he kept her alive because of what she used to mean to him. But if she really meant nothing to him anymore, even the memory of loving her wouldn't have been enough to stop Rage!Kevin.

** [[Jossed]], he did turn good again.

** Or she could become a superpowered [[Stalker Withwith a Crush]]

The rival will be a more beastly race that doesn't like Osmosians. To go with Kevin's creepy opposition shiny body and Gwen's Mary sue ness. [[Twilight (Literaturenovel)|Sounds like it has been done]].

During the third season of [[Ben 10: Alien Force (Animation)|Alien Force]], the conquest of Earth by the intergalactic government was more or less established by forcing Earth to abide by the 'Invasion Laws' (created by the Galvans) and selling the rights to basically destroy the planet to Vulkannus. Now Ben's no longer wearing an Azmuth created device, and Azmuth has cryptically referenced an updated Omnitrix. Sounds to me like they're setting up a battle between Ben and Azmuth.

At least by their species' standards, they are. When the Omnitrix/Ultimatrix takes a sample of DNA, it scrambles it to get the optimum traits, like what happened with Eunice. (Not to say that other hair, eye and skin colors aren't [[Unfortunate Implications|optimum traits.]]) This would explain why all aliens in the galaxy seem to be way more powerful than humans; it's not that humans suck, we just have no average examples to compare with.

** Partially [[Jossed]], the Ken 10 universe is just an alternate reality. So Kevin staying good wouldn't affect their timeline.

** No, the first Ben 10, 000 is from an alternate universe, while this one is the one from current Ben's future.

** And Eon's minions were alternate universe versions of Ben that he enslaved.

Think about it, Ultimate Kevin defeated Ultimate Aggregor, who'd been curbstomping the entire team, even with two Bens. Yet Ben managed to defeat Ultimate Kevin singlehandedly wit Ultimate EchoEcho. Why? Well the entire fight, from Gwen's perspective, was a [["I Know You're in There Somewhere" Fight]]. Well in the end, the real Kevin, the one who'd managed to force himself not to attack Gwen but was completely overshadowed by Ultimate Kevin managed to resurface and let Ben defeat him, knowing if he didn't that he'd end up getting to Gwen.

== [[Samus Is a Girl|Adwaita is female]] ==

Well, he looks different that other Terraspins. His name sound a bit girly. His voise may have changed from magic, or be natural for that race. [[Tertiary Sexual Characteristics|And he's partly pink.]]

* Thats what I always thought. Popular guess is that Gwen interference must changed future. All episodes from Ben 10 classic go normal (and some guess that Goodbye and Good Riddance is canon) and then something changes. By the way, [[Fridge Brilliance|that means that]] [[Heartwarming Moments|Gwen saved Kevin by herself from terrible fate.]]

** [[Jossed]], the Ben 10, 000 we see is different from the last one. The original Ben 10, 000 is from an alternate universe.

What is the only power that humans have been shown to have in this series? Genetic compatibility will all known species of sentient aliens. If Kevin and Gwen end up marrying and having a child, there is no indication that it wouldn't have both Anodite and Osmosian powers like it's parents. Given enough generations, humanity will be able to have all sorts of cool powers. Should Ben ever be forced to become Ultimate Human, it will look just like him. after a little bit of [[How Do I Shot Web?]], be will find that he has all of the powers of all of the aliens that he has used since now. He will then proceed to kick ass.

== Before she left Earth, Verdona had a [[Bewitched (TV)|Bewitched]]-style Endora vs. Darrin relationship with Gwen's Mom ==

* Doubt it. 1) Where is real Eon? 2)Ben 10,000 asked "Why are you doing this, Eon? When we fought before... " which suggest he fought other Eon.

** As of "The Purge", the four most powerful Forever Knight leaders (Driscoll, Enoch, Patrick, and Urian) are forced to swear fealty to {{spoiler|Old George, the original Forever Knight}}. This makes this WMG less likely, but not impossible, particularly if one or more of them decides to go [[The Starscream|Starscream]] against him.

* A whole bunch of Omnitrix prototypes, mods and bootlegs have to be recovered, but being Clingy [[MacClingy GuffinsMacGuffin]]s they wind up in the hands of a new generation of heroes, allowing Ben to spread his multiple forms among them. The show will then be known as Ben's Ten.

** [[The Smart Guy]] gets the Digitrix (improved AI system that always dials correctly) with Nanomech, Benviktor, NRG, Lodestar, Ditto {{spoiler|but [[AIA.I. Is a Crapshoot|the AI taking over]] develops into a new, unstable form}}

* He will make appearances on other Cartoon Network shows like ''[[Adventure Time (Animation)|Adventure Time]]'' and ''[[The Amazing World of Gumball]]'', maybe even bringing Ben along for the ride.

** Possible [[Fridge Brilliance]]: Cooper suddenly becoming buff and muscular? He used his powers to control the nanites.

The way things are going in this season it seems the Ben10 Verse is getting darker and less idealistic. The alien prison under area 51 and its ramifications, the return of Old George and the revamping of the Forever Knights into an actually dangerous entity and the slight deconstruction littered through the season (Ben's [[Stepford Smiler]] status is discussed and the realistic problems aliens and humans would have living together) indicate that Ben is in for a rough experience before the end of the season. When the new series starts Earth will have lost the protection of the treaties due to their civil rights violations and the actions of the Forever Knights. Vilgax will return and claim his loss to Ben during ''[[Ben 10: Alien Force (Animation)|Alien Force]]'' is invalid and Earth is his by default. Ben, his team and their families will have to leave the planet and form a resistance in space while Vilgax hunts them all over the galaxy. Will Harangue will become [[The Quisling]] to [[V Ilgax]] and report on the hunt for the dangerous Ben (not that different from what he's doing already) and the Forever Knights will be devastated by fighting Vilgax's forces until there's barely any left, while the other villains either throw their lot in with Vilgax or form a resistance of their own. Even the Plumbers won't be any help since Ben is "legally" a criminal since Vilgax owns Earth and at best they can only look the other way while Ben tries to find allies to take back Earth. Ben ''will'' win, but at great cost and this is why Ben 10,000 acted so cheerful and perky during their team-up: he knows Ben is in for the roughest time of his life and wanted him enjoy what time he had left before it all goes to hell.

So, Dwayne [[Mc Duffie]]McDuffie confirmed that there are four Earth species in the Codon Stream, and that humans and dolphins are two of the species. Figured I might as well make a WMG about the potential candidates for the other two Earth species. Feel free to add on to the list.

At some point in the future Azmuth will unlock the Ultrimatix's master control for Ben who will eventually be faced with an energy being with time control powers that defeats all Ben's other alien forms forcing him to enter his Osmosian form and absorb the being into himself killing it and giving Ben his powers. But the amount of energy Ben absorbs also turns him into a [[Complete Monster]] and since Ben has master control unlock he never reverts back, after this Ben then uses his new found time powers to travel to alternate time lines and enslave the Ben's there.