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* Ultimate [[Magma Man|Heatblast]]: Since Heatblast originates from a star, its Ultimate Form is a blue(blue stars are the most powerful) variation with a spherical flame jutting ou of the back. A trail of molten ground follows such a powerful entity.
* Ultimate [[Magma Man|Heatblast]]: Since Heatblast originates from a star, its Ultimate Form is a blue(blue stars are the most powerful) variation with a spherical flame jutting ou of the back. A trail of molten ground follows such a powerful entity.
* Ultimate [[The Greys|Grey Matter]]: Giant [[Oracular Head]] with cybernetic body. Gains the ability to read minds.
* Ultimate [[The Greys|Grey Matter]]: Giant [[Oracular Head]] with cybernetic body. Gains the ability to read minds.
* Ultimate [[Multi Armed and Dangerous|Fourarms]]: Arms gain increased amount of dexterity, and feet also gain dexterity.
* Ultimate [[Multi-Armed and Dangerous|Fourarms]]: Arms gain increased amount of dexterity, and feet also gain dexterity.
* Ultimate [[Big Creepy Crawlies|Stinkfly]]: Dragonfly based
* Ultimate [[Big Creepy Crawlies|Stinkfly]]: Dragonfly based
* Ultimate [[All Animals Are Dogs|Wildmutt]] (Canon): Gains red fur and a raised [[Skunk Stripe]] going down his back, can talk, and has enhanced strength and a [[Beware My Stinger Tail|tail with a spike on the end]].
* Ultimate [[All Animals Are Dogs|Wildmutt]] (Canon): Gains red fur and a raised [[Skunk Stripe]] going down his back, can talk, and has enhanced strength and a [[Beware My Stinger Tail|tail with a spike on the end]].
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* Ultimate [[Mummy|Benmummy]]: Gains a sarcophogus shell. Capable of animating objects.
* Ultimate [[Mummy|Benmummy]]: Gains a sarcophogus shell. Capable of animating objects.
* Ultimate [[Lightning Can Do Anything|Benviktor]]: Quadrapedal, and has 3 heads
* Ultimate [[Lightning Can Do Anything|Benviktor]]: Quadrapedal, and has 3 heads
* Ultimate [[Mes a Crowd|Ditto]]: Switch the colors, dont feel each others pain
* Ultimate [[Me's a Crowd|Ditto]]: Switch the colors, dont feel each others pain
* Ultimate [[Eye Beams|Eye Guy]]: Turns into a giant, floating [[Facless Eye]] with arms spurting from it. [[Eyes Do Not Belong There|Naturally, the arms have eyes.]]
* Ultimate [[Eye Beams|Eye Guy]]: Turns into a giant, floating [[Facless Eye]] with arms spurting from it. [[Eyes Do Not Belong There|Naturally, the arms have eyes.]]
* Ultimate [[Attack of the 50 Foot Whatever|Way Big]] (Canon): Most of his white coloring turns blue, he gains two small additional horns on his head, and has enhanced cosmic powers.
* Ultimate [[Attack of the 50 Foot Whatever|Way Big]] (Canon): Most of his white coloring turns blue, he gains two small additional horns on his head, and has enhanced cosmic powers.
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* Ultimate [[Intangible Man|Big Chill]] (Canon): Becomes red with a flame motif, is faster, and has breath that causes all heat in the air to burn away, leaving behind ice (ergo, more efficient ice powers).
* Ultimate [[Intangible Man|Big Chill]] (Canon): Becomes red with a flame motif, is faster, and has breath that causes all heat in the air to burn away, leaving behind ice (ergo, more efficient ice powers).
* Ultimate [[Blob Monster|Goop]]: No need for the ufo can expand mass and whole thing in body, tenticals
* Ultimate [[Blob Monster|Goop]]: No need for the ufo can expand mass and whole thing in body, tenticals
* Ultimate [[Everythings Better With Monkeys|Spidermonkey]]: (Canon): Turns into a purple and black gorilla with narrow eyes, trades two of his four arms for spider legs on his back for enhanced strength, and with his tail being absent, has a splitting jaw for enhanced webbing.
* Ultimate [[Everything's Better With Monkeys|Spidermonkey]]: (Canon): Turns into a purple and black gorilla with narrow eyes, trades two of his four arms for spider legs on his back for enhanced strength, and with his tail being absent, has a splitting jaw for enhanced webbing.
* Ultimate [[Sizeshifter|Humongousaur]] (Canon): His Stegosaur characteristics evolve into Ankylosaur characteristics, trading his growing power for enhanced strength and defense. His fists can transform into [[Gatling Good|gating guns]] that fire missiles made of destabilized bone marrow.
* Ultimate [[Sizeshifter|Humongousaur]] (Canon): His Stegosaur characteristics evolve into Ankylosaur characteristics, trading his growing power for enhanced strength and defense. His fists can transform into [[Gatling Good|gating guns]] that fire missiles made of destabilized bone marrow.
* Ultimate [[Flying Seafood Special|Jetray]]: Turns signifcantly more manta-like.
* Ultimate [[Flying Seafood Special|Jetray]]: Turns signifcantly more manta-like.
* Ultimate [[My Brain Is Big|Brainstorm]]: [[Ascended To A Higher Plain]]
* Ultimate [[My Brain Is Big|Brainstorm]]: [[Ascended To A Higher Plain]]
* Ultimate [[Make Me Wanna Shout|Echo Echo]] (Canon): He grows to human-height and turns blue and black with a more robotic appearance, including a rounded boombox-shaped head. Instead of duplicating and unleashing sonic shouts, he can deploy and control multiple Sonic Disks for more controlled attacks.
* Ultimate [[Make Me Wanna Shout|Echo Echo]] (Canon): He grows to human-height and turns blue and black with a more robotic appearance, including a rounded boombox-shaped head. Instead of duplicating and unleashing sonic shouts, he can deploy and control multiple Sonic Disks for more controlled attacks.
* Ultimate [[Light Em Up|Chromastone]]:
* Ultimate [[Light'Em Up|Chromastone]]:
* Ultimate [[Reality Warper|Alien X]]: A space detailed body showing galaxies instead of stars, 4 personalty's in addition to ben
* Ultimate [[Reality Warper|Alien X]]: A space detailed body showing galaxies instead of stars, 4 personalty's in addition to ben
* Ultimate [[Selective Magnetism|Lodestar]]:
* Ultimate [[Selective Magnetism|Lodestar]]:
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== The Ultimatrix already has "Anodite" and "Osmosian" forms. ==
== The Ultimatrix already has "Anodite" and "Osmosian" forms. ==
Hence why it doesn't lock into [[Mega Manning|scanning mode]] when Gwen and Kevin are around. Of course, it could just be that it's not triggered by [[Half Human Hybrid|Half Human Hybrids]].
Hence why it doesn't lock into [[Mega Manning|scanning mode]] when Gwen and Kevin are around. Of course, it could just be that it's not triggered by [[Half-Human Hybrid|Half Human Hybrids]].
* [[Word of God]] already said that Anodytes don't have DNA since they're energy beings. This means that it's impossible for the Omnitrix and Ultimatrix to have any Anodyte samples, thus making it impossible for Ben to find and access one in the database. It's also been confirmed that the Ultimatrix already has Osmosian DNA.
* [[Word of God]] already said that Anodytes don't have DNA since they're energy beings. This means that it's impossible for the Omnitrix and Ultimatrix to have any Anodyte samples, thus making it impossible for Ben to find and access one in the database. It's also been confirmed that the Ultimatrix already has Osmosian DNA.
** Except that also means that there's no way for Gwen to have inherited anything from her grandmother. And that Max's sons are both basically clones of Max.
** Except that also means that there's no way for Gwen to have inherited anything from her grandmother. And that Max's sons are both basically clones of Max.
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== Kevin [[Hellboy (Comic Book)|cuts off his antlers]]. ==
== Kevin [[Hellboy (Comic Book)|cuts off his antlers]]. ==
OK you might think I'm on somthing if you don't know. In the Ben 10 wiki it says Osmosians have antlers. Kevin dos not have antlers so he cuts them off to blend in.
OK you might think I'm on somthing if you don't know. In the Ben 10 wiki it says Osmosians have antlers. Kevin dos not have antlers so he cuts them off to blend in.
* Um, isn't Kevin [[Half Human Hybrid|half human]]? A simpler explanation is that he inherited his mother's forehead.
* Um, isn't Kevin [[Half-Human Hybrid|half human]]? A simpler explanation is that he inherited his mother's forehead.
** ''Quarter'' human, so even more so
** ''Quarter'' human, so even more so
*** Half-human. Dwayne confirmed that Devin was full-bred Osmosian.
*** Half-human. Dwayne confirmed that Devin was full-bred Osmosian.
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* In the latest episode "The Transmogrification of Eunice" Ben becomes infatuated with a girl named Eunice. {{spoiler|Turns out she's actually a prototype of the Omnitrix that absorbed some of Gwen's DNA that it then used to create a human form, effectively making it a clone of Gwen}}
* In the latest episode "The Transmogrification of Eunice" Ben becomes infatuated with a girl named Eunice. {{spoiler|Turns out she's actually a prototype of the Omnitrix that absorbed some of Gwen's DNA that it then used to create a human form, effectively making it a clone of Gwen}}
* Probably [[Jossed]], since [[Word of God]] repeatedly said it wouldn't happen(For obvious reasons) and there's no way the network would allow it.
* Probably [[Jossed]], since [[Word of God]] repeatedly said it wouldn't happen(For obvious reasons) and there's no way the network would allow it.
** Well there's always [[Getting Crap Past the Radar]] and [[Incest Is Relative]]. [[Batman the Animated Series (Animation)|It wouldn't be the first time we had a somewhat taboo relationship in a children's cartoon, anyway.]]
** Well there's always [[Getting Crap Past the Radar]] and [[Incest Is Relative]]. [[Batman: The Animated Series (Animation)|It wouldn't be the first time we had a somewhat taboo relationship in a children's cartoon, anyway.]]


== Ben's going to catch on to Aggregor. ==
== Ben's going to catch on to Aggregor. ==
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* We don't know how Gwen and Kevin met between ''[[Ben 10 (Animation)|Ben 10]]'' and ''[[Ben 10 Alien Force (Animation)|Ben 10 Alien Force]]''. One of Gwen's [[Magic Misfire]] incidents accidentally let Kevin free. When she saw an unconscious boy suddenly in front of her, Gwen went over and put her hand on his shoulder, turning him over to look at his face. Kevin was semiconscious and had his eyes closed, but Gwen recognized him and probably got the hell out of there. In Episode 1 of Alien Force, Gwen was the one to exclaim and stare at him for a few seconds. Kevin did the same thing, but ''only after Gwen touched him on the shoulder''.
* We don't know how Gwen and Kevin met between ''[[Ben 10 (Animation)|Ben 10]]'' and ''[[Ben 10 Alien Force (Animation)|Ben 10 Alien Force]]''. One of Gwen's [[Magic Misfire]] incidents accidentally let Kevin free. When she saw an unconscious boy suddenly in front of her, Gwen went over and put her hand on his shoulder, turning him over to look at his face. Kevin was semiconscious and had his eyes closed, but Gwen recognized him and probably got the hell out of there. In Episode 1 of Alien Force, Gwen was the one to exclaim and stare at him for a few seconds. Kevin did the same thing, but ''only after Gwen touched him on the shoulder''.


== Aggregor will turn into a [[One Winged Angel]] form in "Ultimate Aggregor". ==
== Aggregor will turn into a [[One-Winged Angel]] form in "Ultimate Aggregor". ==
* This is actually on the page, but hasn't yet been confirmed, so it belongs here.
* This is actually on the page, but hasn't yet been confirmed, so it belongs here.
** [[Captain Obvious|Confirmed]]. ........ What? ''Someone'' had to say it.
** [[Captain Obvious|Confirmed]]. ........ What? ''Someone'' had to say it.
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And while carrying the [[Idiot Ball]], Ben will try to use the new omnitrix and the ultimatrix at the same time. Which will cause something very bad to happen.
And while carrying the [[Idiot Ball]], Ben will try to use the new omnitrix and the ultimatrix at the same time. Which will cause something very bad to happen.


== The Andromeda Aliens will [[Spin Off]] ==
== The Andromeda Aliens will [[Spin-Off]] ==
Let me tell you something, Rath had better be the [[Sixth Ranger]].
Let me tell you something, Rath had better be the [[Sixth Ranger]].
* Unlikely for Rath, considering that he only exists as a form of Ben's. Chromastone would make a decent choice on [[Sixth Ranger]] staus, though.
* Unlikely for Rath, considering that he only exists as a form of Ben's. Chromastone would make a decent choice on [[Sixth Ranger]] staus, though.
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**** Nevertheless, her magic capacity is probably what it emphasized in perfecting her. Remember: humans suck at everything. The only species smaller, weaker, and slower than us that doesn't have some massive superpower is the Galvans, who are superintelligent. We only catch up by using technology that anything shaped like us can use. What ability have humans demonstrated that's unique to us? ''Magic''. We seem to be even better than Annodites- they exceed us in mana capacity, but human mages display waaay more variation in what they can ''do'' with their spells indicating better fine control; judging from Gwen and Verdona, Annodites do more "throw balls of mana around shaped loosely like what you want it to do" than "alter reality" like human mages. As such, it can only be concluded that the human superpower is magic use, and like every other species, it'll focus on enhancing that superpower plus good athletic condition, the latter of which isn't really visible given that Gwen is also athletic.
**** Nevertheless, her magic capacity is probably what it emphasized in perfecting her. Remember: humans suck at everything. The only species smaller, weaker, and slower than us that doesn't have some massive superpower is the Galvans, who are superintelligent. We only catch up by using technology that anything shaped like us can use. What ability have humans demonstrated that's unique to us? ''Magic''. We seem to be even better than Annodites- they exceed us in mana capacity, but human mages display waaay more variation in what they can ''do'' with their spells indicating better fine control; judging from Gwen and Verdona, Annodites do more "throw balls of mana around shaped loosely like what you want it to do" than "alter reality" like human mages. As such, it can only be concluded that the human superpower is magic use, and like every other species, it'll focus on enhancing that superpower plus good athletic condition, the latter of which isn't really visible given that Gwen is also athletic.


== Vulpamancers are [[What Measure Is a Non Human]] Furry Slaves. ==
== Vulpamancers are [[What Measure Is a Non-Human?]] Furry Slaves. ==
The Omnitrix/Ultimatrix only scan SENTIENT life, thus Wildmutt is SENTIENT, but his race is used frequently as attack dogs by other species, since he doesn't have a translatable language basically his species are intergalactic slaves.
The Omnitrix/Ultimatrix only scan SENTIENT life, thus Wildmutt is SENTIENT, but his race is used frequently as attack dogs by other species, since he doesn't have a translatable language basically his species are intergalactic slaves.
* As far as I remember they only appeared, in Null Void, so thet're more possibly some primitive barbarian spieces.
* As far as I remember they only appeared, in Null Void, so thet're more possibly some primitive barbarian spieces.
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== Ultimate Kevin let Ben win ==
== Ultimate Kevin let Ben win ==
Think about it, Ultimate Kevin defeated Ultimate Aggregor, who'd been curbstomping the entire team, even with two Bens. Yet Ben managed to defeat Ultimate Kevin singlehandedly wit Ultimate EchoEcho. Why? Well the entire fight, from Gwen's perspective, was a [[I Know You're in There Somewhere Fight]]. Well in the end, the real Kevin, the one who'd managed to force himself not to attack Gwen but was completely overshadowed by Ultimate Kevin managed to resurface and let Ben defeat him, knowing if he didn't that he'd end up getting to Gwen.
Think about it, Ultimate Kevin defeated Ultimate Aggregor, who'd been curbstomping the entire team, even with two Bens. Yet Ben managed to defeat Ultimate Kevin singlehandedly wit Ultimate EchoEcho. Why? Well the entire fight, from Gwen's perspective, was a [["I Know You're in There Somewhere" Fight]]. Well in the end, the real Kevin, the one who'd managed to force himself not to attack Gwen but was completely overshadowed by Ultimate Kevin managed to resurface and let Ben defeat him, knowing if he didn't that he'd end up getting to Gwen.


== Normal Sonorosians (Echo Echo) have clone limit ==
== Normal Sonorosians (Echo Echo) have clone limit ==
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== The next series will happen after a longer [[Time Skip]]. ==
== The next series will happen after a longer [[Time Skip]]. ==


Ben will be in his mid-twenties or so and mentoring a younger hero who reminds him of his younger self... and all the trouble that he brought with him. As a [[Casting Gag]] the new hero will be a girl voiced by [[Tara Strong]]. Gwen and Kevin will be married with a kid and retired from active duty to play supporting roles. Julie will still be with Ben and much drama will be made about whether Ben will propose. The Big Bad will be a new character with ties to the young hero and powerful enough to give the much more experienced Ben a good fight (Ben hasn't gone Ultimate Ben yet), but can only be defeated by his apprentice. TO sum it up: Ben as [[The Obi Wan]] and a single parent/guardian to a kid that drives him insane while slowly burrowing into his heart. Expect a [[Precocious Crush]] to show up.
Ben will be in his mid-twenties or so and mentoring a younger hero who reminds him of his younger self... and all the trouble that he brought with him. As a [[Casting Gag]] the new hero will be a girl voiced by [[Tara Strong]]. Gwen and Kevin will be married with a kid and retired from active duty to play supporting roles. Julie will still be with Ben and much drama will be made about whether Ben will propose. The Big Bad will be a new character with ties to the young hero and powerful enough to give the much more experienced Ben a good fight (Ben hasn't gone Ultimate Ben yet), but can only be defeated by his apprentice. TO sum it up: Ben as [[The Obi-Wan]] and a single parent/guardian to a kid that drives him insane while slowly burrowing into his heart. Expect a [[Precocious Crush]] to show up.
** It turns out that Ben 10: Omniverse has Ben traveling back in time to help his ten-year-old self, so it's almost an inversion.
** It turns out that Ben 10: Omniverse has Ben traveling back in time to help his ten-year-old self, so it's almost an inversion.


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** Eunice returns when the Unitrix bodyjacks anodther girl, and gets all the animal- and nature-based forms, Spidermonkey, Terraspin, Swampfire, Brainstorm
** Eunice returns when the Unitrix bodyjacks anodther girl, and gets all the animal- and nature-based forms, Spidermonkey, Terraspin, Swampfire, Brainstorm
** An [[Affirmative Action Girl]] gets the Acceletrix (times out and recharges three times faster, but picks at random due to working like a slot machine) with Fasttrack, Arctiguana, Wildvine, Water Hazard
** An [[Affirmative Action Girl]] gets the Acceletrix (times out and recharges three times faster, but picks at random due to working like a slot machine) with Fasttrack, Arctiguana, Wildvine, Water Hazard
** JT's cousin and [[Fiery Redhead]] [[Anti Hero]] wannabe (ie. the new Lancer) gets the Militrix (developed for war, simplified but durable enough to pummel with) with Benwolf, Diamondhead, Rath, Snakepit
** JT's cousin and [[Fiery Redhead]] [[Anti-Hero]] wannabe (ie. the new Lancer) gets the Militrix (developed for war, simplified but durable enough to pummel with) with Benwolf, Diamondhead, Rath, Snakepit
** [[The Smart Guy]] gets the Digitrix (improved AI system that always dials correctly) with Nanomech, Benviktor, NRG, Lodestar, Ditto {{spoiler|but [[AI Is a Crapshoot|the AI taking over]] develops into a new, unstable form}}
** [[The Smart Guy]] gets the Digitrix (improved AI system that always dials correctly) with Nanomech, Benviktor, NRG, Lodestar, Ditto {{spoiler|but [[AI Is a Crapshoot|the AI taking over]] develops into a new, unstable form}}
** [[The Big Guy]] gets the Megatrix (increased buffer space for growing into larger aliens) with Humungosaur, Upchuck, Armordrillo, Cannonbolt
** [[The Big Guy]] gets the Megatrix (increased buffer space for growing into larger aliens) with Humungosaur, Upchuck, Armordrillo, Cannonbolt
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== The counter-intuitive physics that Paradox spoke about was [[Phineas and Ferb]] == Because when I think counter-intuitive physics I think Phineas and Ferb.
== The counter-intuitive physics that Paradox spoke about was [[Phineas and Ferb]] == Because when I think counter-intuitive physics I think Phineas and Ferb.


== Paradox could very well potentially appear in ''any'' franchise ([[Lawyer Friendly Cameo|legalities withstanding]]) ==
== Paradox could very well potentially appear in ''any'' franchise ([[Lawyer-Friendly Cameo|legalities withstanding]]) ==
It's already been confirmed that Paradox can easily travel to other universes. And the fact that Ben will cross over to [[Generator Rex]]'s world confirms that "other universes" also includes other shows. So why not?
It's already been confirmed that Paradox can easily travel to other universes. And the fact that Ben will cross over to [[Generator Rex]]'s world confirms that "other universes" also includes other shows. So why not?
* He will make appearances on other Cartoon Network shows like ''[[Adventure Time (Animation)|Adventure Time]]'' and ''[[The Amazing World of Gumball]]'', maybe even bringing Ben along for the ride.
* He will make appearances on other Cartoon Network shows like ''[[Adventure Time (Animation)|Adventure Time]]'' and ''[[The Amazing World of Gumball]]'', maybe even bringing Ben along for the ride.


== Cooper is an [[Generator Rex|E.V.O.]] ==
== Cooper is an [[Generator Rex|E.V.O.]] ==
Yes, I know the fact that Ben crossing dimensions in ''[[Crossover|Heroes United]]'' means the shows don't take place in the same universe. But Cooper has amazing technopathic abilities and has been declared by [[Word of God]] to not be half-alien. Maybe some time before his debut in the original series, young Cooper was near an open portal to the ''[[Generator Rex]]'' universe at the moment [[Mass Super Empowering Event|The Event]] occured, and a stray cloud of nanites passed through the portal and infected Cooper but just subtly enough not to be noticed.
Yes, I know the fact that Ben crossing dimensions in ''[[Crossover|Heroes United]]'' means the shows don't take place in the same universe. But Cooper has amazing technopathic abilities and has been declared by [[Word of God]] to not be half-alien. Maybe some time before his debut in the original series, young Cooper was near an open portal to the ''[[Generator Rex]]'' universe at the moment [[Mass Super-Empowering Event|The Event]] occured, and a stray cloud of nanites passed through the portal and infected Cooper but just subtly enough not to be noticed.
** Possible [[Fridge Brilliance]]: Cooper suddenly becoming buff and muscular? He used his powers to control the nanites.
** Possible [[Fridge Brilliance]]: Cooper suddenly becoming buff and muscular? He used his powers to control the nanites.