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{{trope}}
Meet Archie. He is your protagonist and by default the [[The Everyman]]. He is torn between two people: [[Betty and Veronica]]. Betty is the [[Nice Girl]], and Veronica is
▲Meet Archie. He is your protagonist and by default the [[The Everyman]]. He is torn between two people: [[Betty and Veronica]]. Betty is the [[Nice Girl]], and Veronica is the [[Vamp]] who may be prickly and temperamental but is fun. It seems like a straightforward [[Love Triangle]].
Or is it?
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{{examples}}
== [[Anime]] and [[Manga]] ==
* ''[[Revolutionary Girl Utena]]'' has the titular character experience variations of this trope:
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* ''[[×××HOLiC]]'' has Watanuki fearing that this dynamic is happening with Himawari, his crush, and his [[Sitcom Arch Nemesis]] Shizuka Domeki, a [[Tall, Dark and Snarky]] classmate. {{spoiler|Turns out that Himawari is a literal [[Doom Magnet]] that brings bad luck to people who encounter her; Domeki is immune because he naturally repels bad spirits. Yuko asked Domeki to befriend Himawari and Watanuki so that Watanuki would not suffer from the bad luck. Indeed, as time passes, Domeki seems more interested in ''Watanuki'' as a significant other rather than Himawari.}}
* ''[[Yona of the Dawn]]'' has the titular character torn between her bodyguard Hak and her cousin Su-Won. Hak is [[Tall, Dark and Snarky]] who often treats Yona like a child, while Su-Won is always sweet to Yona and giving her lovely trinkets. Then Yona witnesses Su-Won killing her father the king in cold blood, on her ''birthday'' no less, and then trying to murder her as well; Hak selflessly risks his life to evacuate Yona and cannot understand why Su-Won would do such a thing. We also find out that the trope is more complicated; as a kid, Hak make Su-Won promise to marry Yona so they could all stay together, as friends.
== [[Child Ballad|Ballads]] ==
* "'Twa Sisters" in the [[Child Ballad]]s theoretically portrays two sisters fighting over the same guy. The older one pushes her younger one into the river and lets her drown. Patricia C. Wrede had a different take in her short story "Cruel Sisters"; the main character Margaret, a middle child between eldest girl Anne and the youngest Eleanor. She sees that Eleanor lies regularly to get Anne in trouble, and Margaret retaliates out of spite. Neither of them was a complete Betty, and the guy who pursued them goes after Margaret at the next opportunity.
== [[Comic Books]] ==
* In the [[Archie Comics]], Betty and Veronica are more likely to be friends than rivals. They enjoy doing shopping dates together and will call out Reggie and Archie for spying on other girls, like when they couldn't figure out why a rich girl was dating Jughead.
** In a "Little Archie" one-shot, Betty tried to convince Moose that Veronica liked him so that she could have Archie. Moose remembered that Archie liked Veronica and went to beat him up; feeling guilty, Betty saved Archie and apologized.
== [[Film]] ==
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* ''[[Angel]]''
** Fred was the Archie between Wesley and Gunn. Wesley would be [[The Betty]] as the former Watcher while Gunn is the Veronica monster hunter. Except, Wesley has had his share of Veronica moments, including when he double-crossed the Council to protect Angel from them. Gunn also became more of [[The Betty]] in Season 5 when he receives an intelligence boost. Then {{spoiler|Fred got taken over by an ancient goddess, ending the triangle with her death.}}
** Angel is torn between his ex, Darla, when she's brought back as a human, and Cordelia, acquaintance turned secretary of Angel Investigations. Normally Cordelia would be the Veronica, but due to [[Character Development]] and being [[Blessed with Suck]] through mind-melting visions, she's become much mellower as a result. Darla is genuinely nice when she's human, but reverts to her soulless vampiric self when Angelus's protege Drusilla turns her through a gambit from Wolfram & Hart. The women keep switching roles, complete with a moment when Cordelia attempts to comfort Darla in season three, only to get bitten.
* ''[[Buffy the Vampire Slayer]]'':
** Buffy was the Archie between Angel, her love interest in seasons one and two, and Xander briefly. Thing is that while Xander would normally be the Betty, his jealousy for Angel led to him being a [[Jerkass]] on several occasions and even considering his childhood friend Willow as a consolation prize. Willow called him out for this in the season one finale, that she is no one's second choice.
** Willow and Xander both gain significant others in season two: musician Oz and [[Alpha Bitch]] Cordelia respectively. They also realize they are attracted to each other in season three, and both would be considered the Bettys for each other. Thing is that Oz and Cordelia truly loved their partners, and are devastated when seeing the two kiss. The rest of the season turns Cordelia into [[The Woobie]] as she undergoes a [[Humiliation Conga]], and it takes Oz a long time to forgive Willow.
== [[Newspaper Comics]] ==
* In ''[[For Better or For Worse]]'' this ended up happening with Anthony, the Archie, and his childhood flame Elizabeth as well as his current wife Therese. After having a child with Therese, {{spoiler|Anthony starts emotionally cheating on her with Elizabeth after saving the latter from a coworker attempting to assault her. He claims that Therese is not a good mother and wouldn't quit her job.}} While Elizabeth was building a career, she was {{spoiler|perfectly fine with settling down at a mundane job while raising a family with Anthony at the end of the strip.}} Thing is, as readers pointed out, {{spoiler|Anthony was the one who pressured Therese to have a baby when she wasn't interested, and wanted her to quit a job that she loved. It makes him a less sympathetic Archie, even if their parents were the one who pushed for the marriage as a business arrangement.}} Not helping is that {{spoiler|Elizabeth is oblivious to how unhealthy it is that Anthony is hitting on her after a traumatic experience}}.
* In ''[[Garfield: His 9 Lives]]'', during the Detective Sam Spayed story, Sam is torn between his [[Nice Girl]] secretary Kitty who makes great coffee and his new client, a widow named Tanya O'Tabby whom he suspects of killing her husband and using him as a [[Detective Patsy]]. Turns out that {{spoiler|Kitty was in love with Tanya's husband, and quit her job as his secretary after realizing that he would never leave his wife. She didn't kill him, but her testimony leads Sam to the real murderer. Tanya also reveals that she is legitimately grieving her husband, thanking Sam for solving the case and paying him handsomely, but also lets him down gently about any romantic relationship since she is still in mourning.}}
== [[Theatre]] ==
* ''[[Chicago (play)|Chicago]]'' has a platonic version, with Velma Kelly and Roxie Hart fighting for attention of Billy Flynn, the Archie. Velma comes off as the vengeful sibling, while Roxie tells the press she is a reformed sinner. Only Billy is an [[Amoral Attorney]] pulling every trick in the book to get both women acquitted of murder charges. Velma and Roxie are dual Veronicas, and violent to boot.
* ''[[Hamilton]]'' initially portrays Angelica and Eliza Schuyler as this, with Angelica as the outspoken older sister Veronica, Eliza as the [[Nice Girl]] Betty, and demure sweetheart, and Peggy as the the youngest. Indeed, when Angelica talks with Alexander Hamilton, Eliza fears they are flirting. Turns out Angelica considered it, but Eliza told her she liked Alexander, and Angelica sought to introduce them instead. Why? Because Eliza is her little sister, and deserves happiness. Angelica notes that if the roles were reversed, Eliza would do the same for her. Indeed, when Alexander cheats on Eliza and writes the Reynolds Pamphlet about it, Eliza shows off her Veronica side and calls out her husband in "Burn" while Angelica makes it clear that she's supporting her little sister.
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== [[Web Original]] ==
* ''[[The Nostalgia Chick]]'': In early videos, the Nostalgia Critic crushed on the Nostalgia Chick, who held a candle for Todd in the Shadows. It's a case where the introverted and broody Todd would be the Betty by default, given Doug plays the part of the [[Caustic Critic]], and in a later video Lindsay hesitates to call him an "ally" to a vengeful Mara Wilson.▼
▲* ''[[Nostalgia Chick]]'': In early videos, the Nostalgia Critic crushed on the Nostalgia Chick, who held a candle for Todd in the Shadows. It's a case where the introverted and broody Todd would be the Betty by default, given Doug plays the part of the [[Caustic Critic]], and in a later video Lindsay hesitates to call him an "ally" to a vengeful Mara Wilson.
== [[Western Animation]] ==
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** Season two has Daphne pursued by Freddy, who left her to find his biological parents, and Baylor, a famous actress looking to produce a film. Freddy would normally be the Veronica, since as Daphne points out angrily, he ''broke'' their engagement in favor of another mystery, while Baylor has always been there for her. {{spoiler|Turns out Baylor was the [[Monster of the Week]] kidnapping people for his new film, including Daphne, and Freddy pulls a heroic rescue by landing the plane that Baylor hijacked.}}
* ''[[What's New, Scooby-Doo?]]''
** Veronica faces Veronica in the Halloween special with
** There's a tiny [[Played for Laughs]] version between Daphne and Velma when a vampire harasses the Hex Girls at one of their video shoots. Freddy sets up a trap before solving the mystery, and says they need bait. Shaggy and Scooby refuse, but Freddy explains he needs one of the girls to dress up as a Hex Girl. Daphne primps expectantly. Cut to [[Bookworm]] Velma in the costume, with [[The Fashionista]] Daphne asking why ''she'' gets to wear the dress. Surprisingly, Velma outruns the vampire after luring him out in the open, allowing the gang to trap him.
* It happened in the "World's Finest" crossover between ''[[Superman: The Animated Series]]'' and ''[[The New Batman Adventures]]'', with Batman and Superman discussing it. Lois is tongue-tied around Superman when trying to ask if she could be more than the token damsel he saves, and is flattered when Bruce Wayne asks her out on a date. In contrast, she sees "Smallville" Clark Kent as a work rival, and Batman as an unnecessary violent force. To Lois's eyes, Superman is The Veronica while Bruce Wayne is the Betty. Batman and Superman even discuss that she wants the nice hero, and the philanthropic billionaire, but not their other sides.
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