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** For additional fuel, the couple had another child already, who died in the fire, which was set as revenge when they guy insisted on being paid for work he'd done. The arsonist then pretends to grieve for the death of the child.
** For additional fuel, the couple had another child already, who died in the fire, which was set as revenge when they guy insisted on being paid for work he'd done. The arsonist then pretends to grieve for the death of the child.
** At a later point in his life, Magneto has found a measure of peace and new love, while working for Mossad. When he wipes out a pet Nazi they keep for information and other uses he fulfills, they make the mistake of killing his girlfriend right in front of him, then taunting him with being invulnerable to his powers due to protective devices they wear. Protect them from direct attacks, yes, from shrapnel, not so much. After this, he sort of loses it for a few decades. Magneto is a wonderful example of why you shouldn't mistreat people who can kill you with their brain.
** At a later point in his life, Magneto has found a measure of peace and new love, while working for Mossad. When he wipes out a pet Nazi they keep for information and other uses he fulfills, they make the mistake of killing his girlfriend right in front of him, then taunting him with being invulnerable to his powers due to protective devices they wear. Protect them from direct attacks, yes, from shrapnel, not so much. After this, he sort of loses it for a few decades. Magneto is a wonderful example of why you shouldn't mistreat people who can kill you with their brain.
* In issue 42 of Marvel's "What If?" comic, we see an alternate universe where Susan Richards [[Death By Childbirth|perishes in childbirth]] due to actions by the villain Annihilus. Driven mad with grief, Reed Richards turns his considerable mental chops from creating gadgets to getting the most violent, terrible revenge he can. He proves to be a ''far'' deadlier unhinged genius than Doom ever was, and even causes [[The Lancer|Namor]] to tell him to [[Get a Hold of Yourself Man|calm the heck down]]. This being an out-of-continuity tale, it ''doesn't'' work.
* In issue 42 of Marvel's "What If?" comic, we see an alternate universe where Susan Richards [[Death By Childbirth|perishes in childbirth]] due to actions by the villain Annihilus. Driven mad with grief, Reed Richards turns his considerable mental chops from creating gadgets to getting the most violent, terrible revenge he can. He proves to be a ''far'' deadlier unhinged genius than Doom ever was, and even causes [[The Lancer|Namor]] to tell him to [[Get a Hold of Yourself, Man!|calm the heck down]]. This being an out-of-continuity tale, it ''doesn't'' work.
* Another from [[The DCU]]: [[Plastic Man]]. Although he's normally the team clown, he can get... ''testy'', if pushed. In "The Obsidian Age", he helps the team recover from the psychological effects of time-travel with bad jokes. Then, when Rama Khan ''sets the [[Martian Manhunter]] on fire'', Plastic Man uses his own ductile body to choke the dude into unconsciousness ("You like burning? How about the burning on the inside on your lungs right now, like that?") and subsequent brain-damage.
* Another from [[The DCU]]: [[Plastic Man]]. Although he's normally the team clown, he can get... ''testy'', if pushed. In "The Obsidian Age", he helps the team recover from the psychological effects of time-travel with bad jokes. Then, when Rama Khan ''sets the [[Martian Manhunter]] on fire'', Plastic Man uses his own ductile body to choke the dude into unconsciousness ("You like burning? How about the burning on the inside on your lungs right now, like that?") and subsequent brain-damage.
** Not to mention the fact that he went toe-to-toe with Fernus The Burning after the baddie in question had already curb-stomped the entire Justice League. Yeah, it was due largely to the fact he was the only member of the team who was immune to Fernus' telepathy, but seeing the [[Plucky Comic Relief]] putting the guy who just bitch smacked Superman in a headlock still sends shivers down my spine.
** Not to mention the fact that he went toe-to-toe with Fernus The Burning after the baddie in question had already curb-stomped the entire Justice League. Yeah, it was due largely to the fact he was the only member of the team who was immune to Fernus' telepathy, but seeing the [[Plucky Comic Relief]] putting the guy who just bitch smacked Superman in a headlock still sends shivers down my spine.
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** At one point, a sleazy tabloid photographer makes the completely untrue claim that Mary Jane's been having an affair with Tony Stark. Logan makes the stupid mistake of cracking sarcastic about MJ just after Peter's heard about the article. We get one panel of Peter looking extremely pissed, then the next panel, Luke Cage and Jessica Drew are looking at the hole in the supposedly unbreakable glass where [[Destination Defenestration|he just pitched Wolverine through the plate window.]] From several stories up.
** At one point, a sleazy tabloid photographer makes the completely untrue claim that Mary Jane's been having an affair with Tony Stark. Logan makes the stupid mistake of cracking sarcastic about MJ just after Peter's heard about the article. We get one panel of Peter looking extremely pissed, then the next panel, Luke Cage and Jessica Drew are looking at the hole in the supposedly unbreakable glass where [[Destination Defenestration|he just pitched Wolverine through the plate window.]] From several stories up.
** At one point, a future version of Iron Man from 2025 comes back in time to get the biometric signature of a child who would grow up to be a terrorist in the future (he needed it to defuse a bomb). Spider-Man, not knowing what's going on, interferes. Rather than explain the situation, Iron Man fights Spider-Man and ruthlessly injures the child in the process (which incidentally is the reason he grows up to hold a grudge against Stark Industries). Since Iron Man is supposed to be a hero, Spider-Man flips out. He beats the ''future-tech'' Iron Man to a pulp with his bare fists in a no-contest ass-whupping.
** At one point, a future version of Iron Man from 2025 comes back in time to get the biometric signature of a child who would grow up to be a terrorist in the future (he needed it to defuse a bomb). Spider-Man, not knowing what's going on, interferes. Rather than explain the situation, Iron Man fights Spider-Man and ruthlessly injures the child in the process (which incidentally is the reason he grows up to hold a grudge against Stark Industries). Since Iron Man is supposed to be a hero, Spider-Man flips out. He beats the ''future-tech'' Iron Man to a pulp with his bare fists in a no-contest ass-whupping.
** [[Peter David]]'s famous "Death of Jean DeWolff" storyline shows what happens when Spider-Man gets pushed too far, and it's not pretty. The story centered around the murder of one of Spidey's few friends on the NYPD by the psychotic "Sin-Eater", who went on to kill a priest who opposed capital punishment, a judge who "coddled criminals", and an innocent bystander who got clipped when Spidey dodged a shotgun blast. At the same time, an elderly gentleman from Aunt May's boarding house is viciously mugged by three punks, whom Matt Murdock manages to get bail for. Spidey is shown getting angrier and more aggressive towards criminals as he tries to track down Sin-Eater, even putting a drug dealer in fear of his life by taking him to a bar and making out that they're buddies, in order to get some info (the guy later goes into Witness Protection), earning him a [[What the Hell Hero]] from Daredevil. It comes to a head as Spidey and Daredevil discover that The Sin Eater is actually Stan Carter, the detective in charge of the Sin-Eater case, whom Spidey had being developing a friendship with, and that he has gone to J. Jonah Jameson's penthouse to kill Jameson (JJJ's out of town, but his wife Marla is there, along with Betty Brant-Leeds, one of Peter Parker's oldest friends and a former girlfriend). Sin-Eater is about to kill Betty when Spidey bursts in, snaps his shotgun over his knee like a twig, and smacks him around, causing Carter to snap back to sanity for a moment and try to apologize, which pisses Spidey off even more, as he continues to viciously pound Carter, even after he's unconscious. Daredevil tries to intervene before Spider-Man kills the guy and gets punched out of a window for his efforts, and then barely defeats the raging, out-of-control Spider-Man. Later, as the cops try to get Carter into a wagon to Ryker's, they're swarmed by an angry mob looking for some vigilante justice. Daredevil jumps in to stop them, whilst Spidey stays where he is and watches, until Daredevil calls out to him by his first name, and snaps him back to his senses. [[Peter David]] brought Carter back in a later storyline - partially deaf, with a stutter and a limp as a direct result of what Spider-Man did to him.
** [[Peter David]]'s famous "Death of Jean DeWolff" storyline shows what happens when Spider-Man gets pushed too far, and it's not pretty. The story centered around the murder of one of Spidey's few friends on the NYPD by the psychotic "Sin-Eater", who went on to kill a priest who opposed capital punishment, a judge who "coddled criminals", and an innocent bystander who got clipped when Spidey dodged a shotgun blast. At the same time, an elderly gentleman from Aunt May's boarding house is viciously mugged by three punks, whom Matt Murdock manages to get bail for. Spidey is shown getting angrier and more aggressive towards criminals as he tries to track down Sin-Eater, even putting a drug dealer in fear of his life by taking him to a bar and making out that they're buddies, in order to get some info (the guy later goes into Witness Protection), earning him a [[What the Hell, Hero?]] from Daredevil. It comes to a head as Spidey and Daredevil discover that The Sin Eater is actually Stan Carter, the detective in charge of the Sin-Eater case, whom Spidey had being developing a friendship with, and that he has gone to J. Jonah Jameson's penthouse to kill Jameson (JJJ's out of town, but his wife Marla is there, along with Betty Brant-Leeds, one of Peter Parker's oldest friends and a former girlfriend). Sin-Eater is about to kill Betty when Spidey bursts in, snaps his shotgun over his knee like a twig, and smacks him around, causing Carter to snap back to sanity for a moment and try to apologize, which pisses Spidey off even more, as he continues to viciously pound Carter, even after he's unconscious. Daredevil tries to intervene before Spider-Man kills the guy and gets punched out of a window for his efforts, and then barely defeats the raging, out-of-control Spider-Man. Later, as the cops try to get Carter into a wagon to Ryker's, they're swarmed by an angry mob looking for some vigilante justice. Daredevil jumps in to stop them, whilst Spidey stays where he is and watches, until Daredevil calls out to him by his first name, and snaps him back to his senses. [[Peter David]] brought Carter back in a later storyline - partially deaf, with a stutter and a limp as a direct result of what Spider-Man did to him.
** There was also the Burglar who killed his Uncle Ben. After getting released from prison, Peter begins relentlessly pursuing him. When the guy asks why Ben's death matters so much to him, Peter whips off his mask and tells him he killed his only father figure in life. The Burglar was so scared of Peter, he had a fatal heart attack.
** There was also the Burglar who killed his Uncle Ben. After getting released from prison, Peter begins relentlessly pursuing him. When the guy asks why Ben's death matters so much to him, Peter whips off his mask and tells him he killed his only father figure in life. The Burglar was so scared of Peter, he had a fatal heart attack.
*** That story would certainly have more meaning if it hadn't already been done in Batman comics a good 30 years before then. Of course, Batman hardly qualifies as one of the "nice ones," but the story is essentially the same.
*** That story would certainly have more meaning if it hadn't already been done in Batman comics a good 30 years before then. Of course, Batman hardly qualifies as one of the "nice ones," but the story is essentially the same.
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{{quote| "He begged them to surrender...to allow him to be merciful. They refused. [[Curb Stomp Battle|The fight lasted four seconds.]]"}}
{{quote| "He begged them to surrender...to allow him to be merciful. They refused. [[Curb Stomp Battle|The fight lasted four seconds.]]"}}
* Sam, from ''[[Sam and Max Freelance Police]]''. He's that scary when he gets angry that, ironically, [[Heroic Sociopath|Max]] has to calm him down.
* Sam, from ''[[Sam and Max Freelance Police]]''. He's that scary when he gets angry that, ironically, [[Heroic Sociopath|Max]] has to calm him down.
* Lahr the Gelfling from the ''[[The Dark Crystal]]'' prequel manga. He starts the story as a laidback shepherd. Then {{spoiler|[[Elite Mook|Garthim]] [[Doomed Hometown|destroy his village]], kidnap all of his friends and family, and [[Arson Murder and Jaywalking|break his flute]].}} Lahr reacts by {{spoiler|stabbing a Garthim to death with the broken flute and [http://chibimaryn.deviantart.com/art/Chapter-Break-1-63315665 wields the flute like a sword for the rest of the book]}} He later helps convince a nearby Gelfling village to take up arms against a Garthim swarm. This when Gelflings were an artistically inclined, peaceful race who had believed Garthim to be indestructible.
* Lahr the Gelfling from the ''[[The Dark Crystal]]'' prequel manga. He starts the story as a laidback shepherd. Then {{spoiler|[[Elite Mook|Garthim]] [[Doomed Hometown|destroy his village]], kidnap all of his friends and family, and [[Arson, Murder, and Jaywalking|break his flute]].}} Lahr reacts by {{spoiler|stabbing a Garthim to death with the broken flute and [http://chibimaryn.deviantart.com/art/Chapter-Break-1-63315665 wields the flute like a sword for the rest of the book]}} He later helps convince a nearby Gelfling village to take up arms against a Garthim swarm. This when Gelflings were an artistically inclined, peaceful race who had believed Garthim to be indestructible.
* [[Archie Comics|Betty Cooper:]] [http://mightygodking.com/index.php/2009/06/03/it-puts-the-lotion-on-its-skin/ Still insane.]
* [[Archie Comics|Betty Cooper:]] [http://mightygodking.com/index.php/2009/06/03/it-puts-the-lotion-on-its-skin/ Still insane.]
* THE perfect example: {{spoiler|Ozymandias}} from ''[[Watchmen]]''. "Hitler was a vegetarian."
* THE perfect example: {{spoiler|Ozymandias}} from ''[[Watchmen]]''. "Hitler was a vegetarian."
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* ''[[The Incredible Hercules]]'' is basically a big drunk teddy bear unless you're looking for a fight, then he becomes a big drunk grizzly bear.
* ''[[The Incredible Hercules]]'' is basically a big drunk teddy bear unless you're looking for a fight, then he becomes a big drunk grizzly bear.
* [[Captain America]], though usually stoic and serious, is known by those who are closest to him to be the nicest guy you could ever meet. However, the [[Red Skull]] has this knack to ''really'' rile him up.
* [[Captain America]], though usually stoic and serious, is known by those who are closest to him to be the nicest guy you could ever meet. However, the [[Red Skull]] has this knack to ''really'' rile him up.
* [[Tintin]]'s Professor Calculus. While he's generally very pleasant and friendly (if extremely deaf), that does NOT mean you should insult his work or call him a goat - see [[Tintin (Comic Book)/Recap/Destination Moon|Destination Moon]] for full details.
* [[Tintin (Comic Book)]]'s Professor Calculus. While he's generally very pleasant and friendly (if extremely deaf), that does NOT mean you should insult his work or call him a goat - see [[Tintin (Comic Book)/Recap/Destination Moon|Destination Moon]] for full details.
** Tintin himself. He's a good-natured young man with a high sense of morality...but he can still punch you through a wall if you deserve it.
** Tintin himself. He's a good-natured young man with a high sense of morality...but he can still punch you through a wall if you deserve it.
* Three examples from [[Paperinik New Adventures]]: Paperinik is usually cheery, fun and wisecracking, Urk is a nice and tranquil guy, if a little big, and the alien Xado is shown in flashbacks as a very nice alien [[Hot Scientist]] who really loves dancing. But keep in mind that Paperinik was originally born as [[Donald Duck]]'s way to vent frustrations and his full superhero name is [[Names to Run Away From Really Fast|Paperinik the Devilish Avenger]], Urk is strong enough to accidentally break people's ribs with a hug, and outside flashbacks Xado is now [[Person of Mass Destruction|Xadhoom]], a [[Physical Goddess]] bound to fully exterminate the Evronians (the aliens responsible of the destruction of her homeworld and her people) in the most painful way she knows while asking them if they want to dance.
* Three examples from [[Paperinik New Adventures]]: Paperinik is usually cheery, fun and wisecracking, Urk is a nice and tranquil guy, if a little big, and the alien Xado is shown in flashbacks as a very nice alien [[Hot Scientist]] who really loves dancing. But keep in mind that Paperinik was originally born as [[Donald Duck]]'s way to vent frustrations and his full superhero name is [[Names to Run Away From Really Fast|Paperinik the Devilish Avenger]], Urk is strong enough to accidentally break people's ribs with a hug, and outside flashbacks Xado is now [[Person of Mass Destruction|Xadhoom]], a [[Physical Goddess]] bound to fully exterminate the Evronians (the aliens responsible of the destruction of her homeworld and her people) in the most painful way she knows while asking them if they want to dance.