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{{trope}}
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Whereas the [[Big Bad]] is considered the ultimate evil to be defeated, the Big Good is the cornerstone of any heroic organization. This character is explicitly stated to be a counterpart to combat the forces of evil, likely calling all the shots in the organization and is normally the highest ranking or the absolute most powerful. Since [[The Hero]] is usually, but [[Anti-Hero|not]] [[Villain Protagonist|always]] synonymous with the protagonist, the Big Good does not always fill that role, as it is usually more dramatic for the protagonist to work upwards from the bottom. In fact, it may even be stated (at least in the beginning) that [[The Hero]] is expendable whereas this character is not. The Big Good is simply the most valuable member of the heroic movement in a given work, whether in terms of rank, function or wisdom. If not [[The Hero]], then they will most definitely be [[Mentor Archetype|the mentor]] to craft [[The Hero]] into being the weapon they need him to be.
 
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== Anime and Manga ==
* It's difficult to decide which lead from ''[[Legend of the Galactic Heroes]]'' better qualifies. While Reinhard continuously rises through the ranks and spends most of the series pretty much being the driving force of the Empire, he is much more morally flawed compared to Yang, who never attempts to rise past the rank of Admiral.
* Kamina, and later on (to a [[Took a Level in Badass|greater]] extent) Simon, from ''[[Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann]]''. Kittan fills Kamina's role while Simon is having his [[Heroic BSOD]], and continues to be a secondary Big Good while Simon has the helm.
* Alex Row from ''[[Last Exile]]''.{{context}}
** Kittan fills Kamina's role while Simon is having his [[Heroic BSOD]], and continues to be a secondary Big Good while Simon has the helm.
* Alex Row from ''[[Last Exile]]''.
* L from ''[[Death Note]]'' - a more uncommon [[Anti-Hero|Anti Heroic]] example.<ref>[[Sliding Scale of Anti-Heroes|Type IV]]</ref>
* The Elder from ''[[Kenichi: The Mightiest Disciple]]''. Almost certainly the strongest character in the series, it's fortunate that he's on the side of good.
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* Integra Hellsing from ''[[Hellsing]]''.
* Captain Bravo from ''[[Busou Renkin]]''. Then the second half of the series introduced a ''Bigger'' Good Guy who was ''his'' captain. He even makes the bigger part somewhat literal—whereas Captain Bravo's weapon is a body-fitting armor, his superior's weapon is a ''[[Humongous Mecha]]'' suit of armor.
* King Kai from ''[[Dragonball Z]]'s'' run. He's a mentor to Goku, one of the [[Physical God]]s of the afterlife, and in most of the movies he takes time to inform Goku on various threats. Supreme Kai counts as well, though apparently [[The Gods Must Be Lazy|anything that doesn't threaten the entire universe is beneath his notice]].
** Supreme Kai as well, though apparently [[The Gods Must Be Lazy|anything that doesn't threaten the entire universe is beneath his notice]].
* Koutarou Taiga from ''[[GaoGaiGar]]''. (Not actually more powerful, but [[The Hero]] is a super-advanced cyborg and Taiga is a [[Badass Normal]] who can fight off the enemy boss with a golf club.)
* Lord Mallory from ''[[Full Metal Panic!]]''.
* Hayate for [[Heroes-R-Us|Riot Force Six]] in ''[[Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha]] StrikerS]]''.
* [[Physical God|Primus]] serves this role in ''[[Transformers]] [[Transformers Armada|Unicron Trilogy]].
* Hakuoro of ''[[Utawarerumono]]''. He was both [[The Hero]] and emperor of his country, which under his leadership went around smiting bad guys.
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* The Queen in ''[[Futari wa Pretty Cure]]''.
** Couppe-sama and Granny Kaoruko{{spoiler|/Cure Flower}} jointly hold this position in ''[[Heartcatch Pretty Cure]]''.
* In the manga and second anime of ''[[Fullmetal Alchemist (manga)|Fullmetal Alchemist]]'', against [[Big Bad|Father]], the role of Big Good is split between Colonel Roy Mustang and {{spoiler|Van Hohenheim}}, the two filling the roles of [[Supporting Leader]] and [[The Messiah]] respectively. While {{spoiler|Hohenheim}} is the only one that can match the Big Bad's sheer power, Mustang's efforts [[The Strategist|coordinating the Amestris military]] can't be ignored.
** At the same time [[Manipulative Bastard|Lieutenant General Grumman]] and [[Four-Star Badass|Major General Armstrong]].
* Pope Benedict in ''[[The Legend of Koizumi]]'', who leads the world's [[What Do You Mean It's Not Awesome?|Mahjong-based]] defense against the [[Stupid Jetpack Hitler|Fourth]] [[Those Wacky Nazis|Reich]], who live on the moon and shoot meteors at major cities. [[It's Personal]] for him for some reason, probably due to his having grown up in the third one.
* ''[[Soul Eater]]'''s Big Good is Death, ironically. He's the head of the school that trains the heroes, gives them their missions and is the only one capable of going head to head with the Big Bad. Also, he's the one the villains are worried about; the heroes themselves are a much lower priority.
* ''[[One Piece]]'',
* In more recent chapters of ''[[One Piece]]'',* Silvers Rayleigh seems to operate in this capacity, being likely the strongest and most traveled ally of the Straw Hats, being Gol D. Roger's first mate and taking on a mentor/trainer role for [[The Hero|Luffy]]. Rayleigh was merely a [[Retired Badass]] despite being powerful enough to hold this role all along, until Luffy's determination (and similarity to Rayleigh's old captain, Gold Roger) impressed him enough to get him to come out of retirement.
** Two of the strongest pirates alive, "Red-Haired" Shanks and Edward "Whitebeard" Newgate {{spoiler|until his death}} could also qualify. In particular, during the Whitebeard War, the rather morally-sound Newgate led the battle against the more reprehensible [[Knight Templar|Marines]] into battle, but it was Shanks himself that ended the war, simply by '''threatening to attack anyone that wanted to continue fighting'''!
** Possibly the biggest candidate for Big Good to date is {{spoiler|Revolutionary Leader and publicPublic enemyEnemy #1 (to the World Government, at least), Monkey D,. Dragon, - Luffy's father.}}.
** And finally, ('''''huge'''''' spoiler here), {{spoiler|Joy Boy. Something of a messiah figure, he lived during the Void Century, made some sort of bargain with Poesidon, and created the Poneglyphs that contain information on that time period and the location of Laugh Tale, the site of Gol D. Roger's legendary treasure. The treasure, in fact, whatever it is, belonged to Joy Boy initially, and it seems Roger's crew discovered it 20 years too early. To early, that is, for Joy Boy's return, as he was prophesized to make a "second coming". And he ''has'', because Luffy is, in fact, the reincarnation of Joy Boy himself.}}
* Ceiphied, akaAKA the Flare Dragon of ''[[Slayers]]''., Foughtfought the [[Big Bad]] Shabranigdu to a draw (of sorts) 5,000 years ago, thus saving the world from being a rather [[Crapsack World|gloomy place]]. He also perished in the deedact, but his released essence gave birth to a whole hierarchy of lesser dragonlords who still keep the Mazoku (demons) in check.
* The [[Power Trio|Three Dark Lords]] of ''[[Rosario + Vampire]]'', or at least the two who are still alive, seem to fill this role.
* This was [[Badass|Erza]]'s role in the earlier chapters of ''[[Fairy Tail]]'', until [[The Obi-Wan|Makarov]], then [[Person of Mass Destruction|Gildarts]] was introduced.
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* Dumbledore in ''[[Harry Potter (novel)|Harry Potter]]''.
** Subverted in that while everyone ''else'' thinks the Big Good is Dumbledore, ''Dumbledore'' thinks the Big Good is Harry, and even mentions that he himself is expendable. Also subverted in that while he is the leader of Good against all Evil, he himself takes some reaaally questionable methods every now and then. All for the Greater Good and justifiable, but he isn't a white dove. Then again, the leader should never be.
** Harry himself in ''[[Harry Potter/Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows (novel)|Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows]]''. Even though he does not exactly lead anyone, he continues to inspire hope and is a rallying point for the students of Hogwarts, Dumbledore's Army, and the Order of the Phoenix.
*** In the practical sense, however, {{spoiler|Moody and, after ''he'' dies, Kingsley}}, seem to be Dumbledore's designated successors.
** Off-screen, {{spoiler|Neville}} is this for Hogwarts during ''Deathly Hallows'': it's implied by the way he talked that he stood up and took a lot of crap so the other students wouldn't have to, he was the only leader of the DA to remain at school for the entire year, and during the Second Battle of Hogwarts, he was explicitly shown leading an attempt to ''kill Death Eaters en masse'' using Mandrakes.
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* [[Anti-Villain|Baron Klaus Wulfenbach]] from ''[[Girl Genius]]'', assuming you label him one of the good guys.
** If you don't, he's at least the [[Discworld|Vetinari]], in that his rule keeps everyone from killing everyone else.
* It had seemed for awhile that Mr. Verres of ''[[El Goonish Shive]]'' was this prior to being [[Kicked Upstairs]]. It's been practically confirmed in a recent{{when}} strip, where he was explicitly compared to both [[Harry Potter (novel)|Dumbledore]] and [[The Lord of the Rings|Gandalf]].
 
== Web Original ==
* ''[[Whateley Universe|]]'': Whateley Academy]]'s headmistress, Elizabeth Carson. Even the ''villains'' generally respect her.
* ''[[Fine Structure]]'': {{spoiler|Mitch Calrus, AKA Xio, is one of two [[Eldritch Abomination]]s sealed in our universe. He's the one opposed to senselessly destroying all sentience.}}
* ''[[That Guy With The Glasses]]'': SANTA CHRIIIST, SANTA CHRIIIIIST!
* Subverted in the blog [http://sooniwillrule.blogspot.com/ Soon I will Rule The World], in that the Big Good, the Luchador security guard Santo Christo, is the Big Bad to the blog's villain protagonist [[Our Liches Are Different|Asmodeus Acerak]]
* [[The Messiah|The Yostwell]] of ''[[The Questport Chronicles]]'', according to legend. It disappeared after a [[Heroic Sacrifice]] millennia ago, but left behind [[MacGuffin|a relic]] with a portion of its power.
* ''[[Shadowhunter Peril]]'' has [[The Stoic|Nuriel]], [[Bratty Half-Pint|Puriel]], [[Shell-Shocked Veteran|Bezaliel]], and [[The Good King|Ra.]] The first three are angels of God, while Ra is the last King of the Phoenix Dynasty, and commands a great army made up of [[Big Badass Bird of Prey]]. By the end of the final battle, [[Pyyrhic Victory|Nuriel and Ra are both dead.]] Bezaliel and Puriel each get a [[Crownning Moment Of Awesome]]. {{spoiler|Puriel kills Oblivion for killing Ra and Nuriel, and Bezaliel calls for much needed reinforcements with his voice.}}
* ''[[Battle for Dream Island]]'' has Donut who, while originally a Jerkass, became one of the most heroic [[Nice Guy]]s on the show.
 
== Western Animation ==
* Optimus Prime in just about any ''[[Transformers]]'' adaptation.
** Later parts of the classic series had the role pass to Rodimus Prime and Fortress Maximus. The Headmasters (or rather, their heads) were this for the last season of Gen 1.
** Ultra Magnus served this role in ''[[Transformers Animated]]'', while Optimus was re-envisioned as [[The Hero|a younger, rookie hero]].
*** Of course, Prime is ''every so slightly'' outranked by [[God|Primus]].