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=== This is a page for wild mass guesses from the series ''[[Bleach]] Shikai Edition'' which have been [[Jossed]] by the series or [[Word of God]]. If a WMG on one of the [[Bleach/WMG/Shikai Open One/WMG|open]] [[Bleach/WMG/Shikai Open Two/WMG|pages]] is Jossed, please move it here. ===
 
''Please add new Jossed entries to the bottom of the page''.
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== Aizen doesn't have Bankai ==
When he discovered he hit the jackpot on the super power roulette he didn't need to unlock bankai, when the time came for him to become captain he just used his good old complete hypnosis.
* [https://web.archive.org/web/20090424041435/http://manga.animea.net/bleach-chapter-120-page-9.html\]
** [[Completely Missing the Point]]. Aizen's Shikai is so broken that he can fool everybody, including Yoruichi, into thinking that he has a Bankai. When it comes to the Captain exams, Aizen just shows off his "water illusion" bullshit as a Shikai, and then pulls something out of his ass for a Bankai.
* Jossed. We'll never know since his Zanpakuto gone for good now.
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** It's for Volume 12. Episode 228 is based off the between chapters extra story in Volume 26.
 
== The recent filler arc will have Tobiume deliver a [[Les Yay]] [[:Category:Yandere|Yandere]] rampage on Hinamori ==
The next filler arc is about Zanpakutou manifestations rebelling from their masters. Since Zanpakutou is a personification of one's soul, and Hinamori is a [[:Category:Yandere|Yandere]]... Tobiume may be the same way, in this case, she is super jealous that Hinamori getting her attention to Aizen all the time. So perhaps in her moment of rebelling, Tobiume will deliver a [[:Category:Yandere|Yandere]] rage to Hinamori, which MAY double as a [[What the Hell, Hero?|What The Hell Heroine]] for her obsession on Aizen. If you do not believe me, take a look at [http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/7645/23416865.jpg this image, especially the little girl with a certain plum hairpin, which definitely must be Tobiume]. Look at the shades on her forehead. Doesn't that just scream "[[:Category:Yandere|Yandere]] [[Devil in Plain Sight|In Plain Sight]]??"
* Not quite- she gives a [[What the Hell, Hero?]] speech, and then afterwards waxes Deredere about her with Haineko.
 
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* Or it could be [[The Punisher|a gun that shoots swords]].
* Or [[Memetic Mutation|a bow that shoots axes]].
* Or [[The Simpsons (animation)|a gun that shoots dogs with bees in their mouth, so when the dogs bark, the bees fly out and sting you]]
* Or a gun that [[Painkiller|shoots shurikens]] [[Zero Punctuation|and lightning.]]
* Or it is {{spoiler|A really damn long sword.}} Jossed.
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== Mayuri will kill Aizen ==
Mayuri has shown that he is basically evil [[Batman]] with how he killed Szayel. And since Aizen is [[Fan Nickname|Evil Superman]], Mayuri will be the one to kill him.
* Aizen's nickname may be Evil Superman, but his powers are also Green Lantern's. If anything fails, Mayuri can call Unohana, our [[:Category:Yandere|Yandere]] Wonderwoman, and the incredible duo called Captain Grabass and Captain Tuberculosis! If anything fails, he'll probably reveal Arrowpops behind his sleeve, too.
* Jossed.
 
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Ichigo is the King's Key.
 
Think about it. In Soul Society, the Soukyoku [https://web.archive.org/web/20100513033925/http://manga.animea.net/bleach-chapter-151-page-6.html was said to have the power of one million zanpakutou], yet Ichigo blocked it with one. If we go by the soul count of each zanpakutou, [[Captain Obvious|that's one million souls.]] And this was ''before'' Ichigo fought Byakuya, underwent Hollow training, and even knew that Aizen was a threat. Besides, who ever said that the Key was composed of ''only'' one hundred thousand souls?
 
But Aizen already knew this. Surely he heard about Ichigo's little run-in with the Soukyoku, and got curious. It's possible that he had no idea that the little Ryoka that he crushed effortlessly was the one object that he was looking for (that, or he was bluffing). And way, way back at the start of the Hueco Mundo arc, when Ichigo and the others entered Hueco Mundo, he could have detected the Key's reiatsu within Ichigo's own. At this point, having lured Ichigo into Hueco Mundo with Orihime as bait, Aizen just had to sit back and watch while things unfolded on their own and Ichigo grew even ''more'' ridiculously powerful than he already was.
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Now that Aizen has Ichigo right where he wants him, he can reveal all this to him, creating another ludicrous [[Wham! Episode]], surprising all of Bleach's readers, and launching his attack on the now-vulnerable fourth wall, as detailed above.
 
* Problem: If you look at Ichigo during the scenes when he's repelling the Soukyoku he's wearing an odd cape with large clasp on it. It looks very similar to the [https://web.archive.org/web/20100513043909/http://manga.animea.net/bleach-chapter-151-page-13.html Shihouin family symbol]. Soi Fon later [https://web.archive.org/web/20100513034020/http://manga.animea.net/bleach-chapter-154-page-12.html confirms] that it is when confronting [https://web.archive.org/web/20100513034025/http://manga.animea.net/bleach-chapter-154-page-13.html Shihouin Yourichi] about why she's assiting Ichigo. Ichigo repelling the Soukyoku is not that impressive.
** Yeah... but then Yoruichi confirms on that same page that ''flight'' was necessary for saving Rukia. The cloak only helped Ichigo get to the top of the Soukyoku. And Yoruichi never said that the cloak stopped the Soukyoku, if that's what you're trying to say.
*** True. But that's not my point. The Soukyoku was destroyed by a relic of the Shihouin family, which Yourichi is a part of. These are facts, substantiated by the manga. It is also a fact that Ichigo was wearing the crest of the selfsame family when he repelled the Soukyoku. The simplest explanation (In following with the principal of Occam's Razor) is that the crest repelled the Soukyoku rather than Ichigo, otherwise you have to start creating thousands of smaller theories about why Ichigo, who is stronger than 1,000,000 soul cutters, ever lost to anyone at all. Especially considering what Ishida said way back in Chapter 49 (and the next two pages).
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== Ichigo has in fact already fallen under Kyoka Suigetsu's illusions ==
If one looks closely at Barragan's flashback, Barragan had already fallen to Kyoka Suigetsu's illusion when Aizen asks him to look at it, as seen in [https://web.archive.org/web/20121128200227/http://manga.animea.net/bleach-chapter-371-page-7.html here]. In other words, just Aizen mentioning his Zanpakuto's name releases it.
* Aizen releases it not 5 pages after the one linked to. He got the sword out and showed it to him so he'd be sure to see it when it was released.
* I agree. How? Why? Simple. We learned a long time ago that a Bankai user doesn't have to call out the name of his sword to release shikai(Renji vs Byakuya fight). So, Aizen doesn't have to do anything flashy to release - at any moment when Ichigo is looking at his sword(and he has to if he wants to dodge any attack) he can release Kyoka Suigetsu and put Ichigo under his hypnosis.S o, barring an enormous [[Idiot Ball]] or [[Villain Ball]](or an alternate method to beat Kyoka Suigetsu) on Aizen's part, he's already won.
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== Ichigo is the new master of the Hogyku ==
Self explanatory. It's found a new master, and Ichigo just beat the stuffing out of Aizen. Plus this'll be a way to repower Ichigo.
* {{[[Jossed}}]]. It's stuck with Aizen.
 
== Ichigo will lose all his shinigami powers, but keep his hollow powers. ==
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== Of the Espada, only Starrk and Harribel were Vasto Lorde. ==
Take a look at their Ressurrección: [https://web.archive.org/web/20130425010256/http://bleach.wikia.com/wiki/File:Starkreleased.jpg Los Lobos] and [https://web.archive.org/web/20140818190400/http://bleach.wikia.com/wiki/File:Harribel_released2.jpg Tiburón], respectively. Notice any similarities? ''No Hollow parts'', apart from their clothes (Starrk's eyepiece, Harribel's bone armor). Being a Vasto Lorde!Arrancar means that when you go [[One-Winged Angel|Resurrección]], you retain your humanity and actually just look like a human wearing funny clothes. By this logic the levels the Espada were at before becoming Arrancar could be:
{{quote|'''Starrk:''' Very powerful Vasto Lorde.
'''Baraggan:''' Powerful Adjuchas.
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WARNING: This whole WMG is a spoiler. {{spoiler|After the Final Getsuga gets rid of Ichigo's Shinigami powers, he still has a keen understanding of how to manipulate reiatsu, right? Why couldn't Uryu teach him how to gather spirit particles from the air?}}
* Not likely. There was the disagreement in the early episodes about how Ichigo doesn't approve of the way Quincy methods erase Hollows from the cycle of life altogether.
* (([[Jossed}}]]. He's back as a Shinigami.
 
== The Final Getsuga won't kill Aizen, but it will depower him ==
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== Ichigo won't defeat Aizen, Hichigo will. ==
As soon as the final getsuga tenshou runs out, Hichigo will exploit Ichigo's weakened state to take total control. Aizen, having had his ass mostly kicked, will get devoured by Hichigo and he'll become the most powerful Hollow in history. The next arc will be Chad, Orihime and Ishida trying to bring Ichigo back.
* {{[[Jossed}}]]. Ichigo really did defeat Aizen, but Urahara sealed Aizen away.
 
== Bleach will end in chapter 432 ==
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== The mysterious ramen guy is a Quincy! ==
* Well, if you look [https://web.archive.org/web/20110111092839/http://mangastream.com/read/bleach/22933320/1 here], he does appear to be wearing a Quincy Cross. And he obviously has some connection to the spiritual world. And it would be kind of funny, what with Ishida constantly procaliming to be the 'Last Quincy' in the early volumes of Bleach.
* [[Jossed]]. He's a Fullbringer.
 
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== Arrancar lose their hollow hole as the get stronger ==
Vizard and Arrancar are counterparts more or less. Looking at Ichigo, it seems that a Vizard gains a hollow hole as the become more powerful and more hollow like. Using that logic, shouldn't Arrancar lose their hollow holes as the become more powerful and more like shinigami. One should also notice that the strongest Arrancar; Primera Espada, Segunda Espada, and both Tres Espada; don't appear to have hollow holes. Szayel could've also used this to rise to the rank Octo Espada, my guess is he was originally around Aaronierro(Did I spell that right?)'s strength this could be supported by the Hell Chapter were Aaronerro believing he could take Szayel.
* [[Jossed]]. [https://web.archive.org/web/20131105093811/http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100630090661/bleach/en/images/thumb/5/54/Starkreleased.jpg/190px-Starkreleased.jpg Yeah, about that...]
 
== The Final Getsuga Tensho ==
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* [[Jossed]]. He has poison as his Bankai's best ability, but he never made blade-storms, porcupines or blade-thornes, nor did he ever curve the blades themselves.
 
== Ichigo will gain his Resurrecion during the fight with Gin, [[All According to Plan|Just As Planned]]. ==
If Aizen is to be believed, he has planned EVERY fight Ichigo has been in so far specifically to force him to progress. This fight is likely no different and is probably the real reason Gin has been hanging back this whole time. After this, Ichigo's true fight with Aizen will begin, initiating the final step in Aizen's plan.
* [[Jossed]]. Ichigo didn't use Resurreccion; he used Jinzen to communicate and merge with Zangetsu (natural Shinigami evolution), while Aizen's last transformation was the most Hollow-looking of all four (artificial and forced Hollow-like [[One-Winged Angel]]). Quite ironic, really.
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== The Hogyoku is a trap. ==
While it's true that everything has unfolded [[All According to Plan|Just As Planned]] for Aizen, in reality, the entire plot has been a trap to catch and kill him, undertaken by Urahara. The Hogyoku, while it breaks down the barriers between Hollow and Shinigami, does something else entirelly when it's actually implanted in someone, the way Aizen put it in his chest. It's going to explode/transform him into something completely unstable, [[JustAll AsAccording Plannedto Plan|just as]] [[Chessmaster|Urahara]] [[Gambit Roulette|planned all along.]]
* This. Sooooo This.
* [[Jossed]]. Urahara planted a Kido seal within Aizen during their fight. Ichigo pushed Aizen to his limit in their fight, which allowed the seal time to work properly. In fact, the Hogyoku turned on Aizen and removed his powers right after the sealing began, because Aizen ironically failed to be a good master to it.
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== Aizen is deliberately not killing anyone ==
He's [[Dangerously Genre Savvy]] enough to realize that if he ever loses, then he could beg for forgveness and mention the fact that nobody died. He'll get thrown in jail for a couple of years and get released later. Then Momo will go vigilante [[:Category:Yandere|Yandere]] and kill him and herself.
** Except Aizen already murdered 46 people back in the Soul Society Arc, and unless they're written off as [[Asshole Victim|a bunch of corrupt and incompetent bureaucrats that no one really gives a shit about]], it's highly unlikely he'll get off lightly in the end just by surrendering.
** [[Jossed]]. He was defeated fair-and-square in a straight-up fight between himself and Ichigo. Upon his defeat, all he ever said was that he found it comical that the Central 46 would pass judgement on him. They responded by adding 2000 more years to his already-high (18,000) sentence.
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** Au contraire, mon frere! They both have squinty eyes!
** The [[Peacemaker Kurogane]] version of Saitou is also quite a bit more ambiguous, or at least a very, very good actor.
* However, there's [https://web.archive.org/web/20101229022622/http://yfrog.com/jn1vs3er2j this picture], which shows Tousen and Aizen eagerly jumping into battle with Ichigo while Gin is chilling waaay in back. Given what just happened to Tousen and the Japanese idea that the person who fights and is seen ''the least'' is the most important, it looks like Gin could become the [[Big Bad]].
* Gin seems to not really want to help Aizen. He just kind of sits there, while Aizen fights alone. Not to mention he rearranged the passageways in Hueco Mundo so that the Ichigo and Co. ended up fighting and killing all of the strongest arrancar they had.
* Moved to the main WMG page to say {{spoiler|CONFIRMED}}
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