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== Wishverse Willow was sired by Xander, who was sired by Jessie. ==
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** That frankly makes it worse. Liam was a dickhead, we could see him becoming the [[Complete Monster|monsterous]] Angelous. For Willow to fall so far as a vampire, or for her to be so completely off when she became a vampire...[[Fan Nickname|Dork Willow]] wasn't as bad. At least she had altruistic motives (revenge, then stop the world from suffering). Vamp! Willow just wanted to hurt people.
*** Not really, Dark!Willow was fuelled by grief...Normal Willow has done some pretty f'ed up stuff by herself - using magic to manipulate her friends and Tara, arging with Giles about magic...Arguably the influence of the magic on her, but more likely that she outright corrupts when given power. Take away her moral limitations by vamping her, and she could go very, ''very'' dark.
**** In addition, remember that this is season 1 Willow we're talking about here. The girl who got bullied every day by the Cordettes just for breathing, who was sitting on a ton of repressed anger and resentment that she could release only infrequently and in the most passive-aggressive ways ('Press the 'Deliver' key!'). The girl who has nothing to feel confident about, no love interest, no witchy powers to be proud of. And suddenly this girl is given superhuman power, while simultaneously having her conscience ''and'' all of her self-doubts and hesitation removed. Yeah, no kidding you're going to get a sadistic psychopath on a rampage. Nothing is scarier than a formerly powerless person suddenly given a whole ton of power and no fear of consequences, and that's before you factor in the whole 'soulless Buffyvamp' part.
*** Plus, the scary thing is is that it's easy to see Xander becoming alot like Angelus. Xander is the only one of them who constantly promoted killing good guys just because of their species, no matter how many times they helped. He's constantly shown that, were he to have power, he'd most likely abuse the hell out of it. He's also the only one to actually try to use mind control to mess with someone's feelings just because he was angry. If any of them could come even close to Angelus, it's him or Giles. Combine his already existing personality with the kind of warping to it caused by being turned and you could easily get Angelus 2.0.
**** Plus, vampires in the Buffyverse almost always have a pseudo-incestuous relationship with their sire and with any vampire they sire in turn. From Vampire-Willow's perspective, her best friend and major crush Xander, who she had been longing for all this time as a human, got immortality and super-powers, then immediately turned around and offered them to her, while suddenly reciprocating her romantic and sexual longing for him, as they also both drop all their inhibitions at the same time. Even if she wasn't otherwise inclined to do anything kinky or evil, if Xander wanted them to, she'd probably go along with it just because she was with Xander, her sire, a kind of blend of father and lover.
*** I'd go into detail over this when I put my mind back together, but Willow seems closer to Angelus than Xander. She comes across as lacking Dru's craziness and has the [[Torture Technician]] part down pat. Xander, by your reasoning of being some vampire racist, would be perhaps closer to the way Twilight portrayed himself. Orchastrate a war against the Slayers, put an end to magic, that sort of thing.
*** Plus, the scary thing is is that it's easy to see Xander becoming alota lot like Angelus. XanderThe isHyena theincident onlyalready oneshowed ofwhat themhappens whoif constantlyyou promotedmagically killingtake goodaway guyshis justmoral becausecompass ofand theirgive species,him nothe matterinstincts howof manya times they helped. He's constantly shown that, were he to have power, he'd most likely abuse the hell out ofsupernatural itpredator. He's also the only one to actually try to use mind control to mess with someone's feelings just because he was angry. If any of them could come even close to Angelus, it's him or Giles. Combine his already existing personality with the kind of warping to it caused by being turned and you could easily get Angelus 2.0.
**** In point of fact there is another cast member who was willing to use the dark arts to mind mojo someone because they were pissed at losing an argument with them. Of course, since I'm referring to Willow and the memory spell incident here, that only proves your point even more.
*** I'd go into detail over this when I put my mind back together, but Willow seems closer to Angelus than Xander. She comes across as lacking Dru's craziness and has the [[Torture Technician]] part down pat. Xander, by your reasoning of being some vampire racist, would be perhaps closer to the way Twilight portrayed himself. OrchastrateOrchestrate a war against the Slayers, put an end to magic, that sort of thing.
**** Dru seemed to be pretty skilled in the torture department and Willow's mind is clearly not what it was. Xander, in the Wishverse, wouldn't be a vampire racist. The point I was making is that he has shown that he has the potential to be evil even as a human and, baring Ripper, is the most Liam-like of the cast and therefor would be the most Angelus-like of the cast as a vampire (especially if he were sired by Jessie, as he'd be part of the same line as Angelus, all of whom are remarkably different from most vamps). The only reason Willow isn't completely batshit insane is because, even in Season 1, she was stronger willed than pre-vamping, pre-torment Dru (and didn't have psychic visions helping drive her nuttier than a fruitcake).
**** The personality of the vampire is very much the personality of the person... minus their conscience. Therefore the bigger the conscience, the bigger the difference in personality.
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The main evidence for this is the abuse Xander suffered throughout the show. Olaf's hammer knocks him out yet it's strong enough to beat the shit out of Glory. Unless the guy has something like this going for him there's no way that could work.
 
* The fact that he has been physically and psychologically put through the wringer throughout the show (and later comics, and offscreen events in novels, and so on,) ''could'' be explained by him secretly having some kind of heritage that makes him more resilient to damage and post-traumatic stress. However, Occam's razor says that the simpler explanation is probably the right one. Maybe, he is secretly some kind of non-human or at least only semi-human. But then not one vampire (or any other creature or occultist) ''ever'' mentions any odd vibes or smells or ''anything'', about him. So, yes, the more likely explanation is magic, from one of the people we already to be magical. And of the people who have magic and are acquainted with him, Willow is the most magical and also the most well-acquainted with him. It is entirely possible that she found some way of protecting him retroactively in the future, using magic.
== Giles HAS been brain damaged throughout the show. ==
* Why didn't she do the same for Jesse? Well, she very well might have done. But in order for her and Xander to grow into the people they become, they need to start with Jesse's death as Buffy arrives. So, rather than retroactively preventing him from being killed, with a spell that protects him from all harm (paradoxically preventing her from becoming the person capable of casting such a spell, which might render it useless anyway), she simply uses her immense powers to pluck Jesse out of his own timestream, so that now, there are two ''equally real'' versions of Jesse. One that had died years ago and become a vampire, then been dusted, ''and'' the still living Jesse who was about to go make out with a girl in an alley, (and be turned) but was brought instantly to the future by his now adult friends, one of whom is now a super-powerful witch.
 
== Giles HAS''has'' been brain damaged throughout the show. ==
The results of this is the fact that over the course of the show, he becomes more and more Ripper-like, with him {{spoiler|using dark magic to put a force field in around a man's brain using the guy's own book. The guy can break out of any spell in his own book. [[Your Head Asplode|His brain breaks out of his skull]].}}
 
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*** Not sure how things go between Buffy and Faith but as I understand it Faith is currently watching over Angel after he was possessed, killed Giles and went catatonic. So now you know.
 
== Unseen Nightmares during Nightmares: ==
(Note: It was implied that all of reality was being effected)
* Angel: Lost his soul.
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* But why would Buffy do that? And is even Willow powerful enough to cast a spell to unleash every single potential on the planet's powers except one, because they would take a ton of control! And why would Willow and the rest go along with that?
** The 'how' seems pretty simple. The slayer empowerment spell wasn't an off-the-cuff thing; Willow knows exactly the sorts of energies she's going to use to do it. She just takes the time beforehand to ward Dawn from them.
*** Alternately, Dawn is incapable of hosting the Slayer spirit despite (hypothetically) being a Potential because she's already hosting a mystical essence—the Key—and so the spell ran into 'Occupado!'.
 
== That really was Joyce in Conversations With Dead People. ==
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== Xander didn't summon Sweet. ==
Xander knew all too well not to mess around with magic - especially after a certain love spell nearly got torn apart by a mob of crazed woman. What actually happened in "Once More With Feeling" was that Xander realized Sweet didn't know for certain who had summoned him, and gambled on the demon being heterosexual. This is why he was [[Easily Forgiven]] for getting a few people killed - he explained later it wasn't him.
* I've believed this since the first time I saw the episode. Further evidence: Xander had long been established as a terrible liar, so how was he able to put on such an incredibly convincing performance of "What the heck is going on here?" throughout the episode (even while singing under the influence of the spell, which supposedly compels truthfulness)? On the other hand, Dawn was visibly nervous when she asked Tara if the gang had figured out who summoned Sweet, and only sang two lines -- whichlines—which were implied to be about her stealing, but could just as easily apply to her having called up a demon in a bid for attention. I think Dawn summoned the demon, and Xander, realizing this, improvised a cover story for her. Sweet most likely knew he was lying, but it provided a face-saving way for him to get out of town without appearing completely defeated, so he went along. Xander told Buffy about it later, and she was devastated, which helps explain why her mental condition continued to deteriorate between OMWF and "Normal Again".
 
== Caleb's Soul is damned to live many different lifetimes until he learns to be a good person. ==
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* Jossed. We now know who Twilight is. Not that it makes any sense...
** Maybe that was wrong then, and the real Twilight (Andrew) found a way to cover his tracks so well that even *the reader* bought into his decoy... more or less.
 
* Them Fucking did? Joss has slipped his leash.
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And the reason why those two bad guys in Tokyo didn't remember building [[Mecha Dawn]]? ''That's because they didn't''. It was built by Gallaxhar in an effort to get his Quantonium back.
* Well, what the hell is a Krevlornswath or a Deathwok Clan. Thricewise sounds much saner that that.
* [[Jossed]].
 
== Supernatural affinity among humans affects sexual orientation or orientation determines affinity for the supernatural ==
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== Buffy did not fight [[Dracula]], who is (or was) a fictional character even in the [[Buffy Verse]]. ==
There is an eerie artificiality surrounding Dracula's entire appearance in Sunnydale -- hisSunnydale—his arbitrary initial appearance, his blatantly disparate power level and abilities compared to other vampires, the [[Marty Stu]]-style fascination he draws from the cast, his heretofore unmentioned past with other characters, and his oddly anticlimactic and inconclusive defeat (he's clearly ''not'' killed, and yet no one worries that he may return). And then there's the ''castle'' that suddenly appears in Sunnydale for him to live in! The key (no pun intended) to these oddities is that they all occur immediately prior to Dawn's first appearance; all of the events depicted are a sample of the invented memories created by the Order of Dagon when they inserted the Dawn persona into local reality. It has also been suggested that the monks used the blood "Dracula" got from biting Buffy for the spell they used to create Dawn.
* [[Jossed]] (quite literally) in the Buffy Season 8 comics.
 
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* Alternatively again, humans are just as prone to evil as good. The First doesn't need to subvert all of the Slayers; just having a bunch of superpowerful women around for The First to play with should be plenty. Look at how much damage a single Slayer like Faith causes, and multiply that times dozens or hundreds. It also gives Buffy something to do - now she has to police these new Slayers; and it makes keeping the [[Masquerade]] in check even harder.
** The [[Continuation]] comic book series may be heading in this direction, as Bad Slayers are a major plot point. The First hasn't shown up to gloat ''yet'', but...
* Yeah, this makes sense in a crazy sort of way--Buffyway—Buffy always said that it would "never be Spike"; and yet, as she defeats the First, she says she loves him? And then he says no you don't? There's no way this could be the real Buffyverse.
* It makes sense at first, but then you have to remember, being a Slayer isn't genetic, it's magical. Unless the spell extends into the future, this makes no sense.
* The original guess is [[Jossed]] by the comic book series, as some Slayers were activated after the spell. But the activation of the Slayers is the reason ''Fray'' came to pass: {{spoiler|the Slayers draw their powers from a demon. The activation of the Slayers drains the demon's power, until it can no longer sustain any Slayers and has to spend over 150 years restoring it's strength.}}
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** That actually makes total sense. After the debacle with Adam, the government outsources the whole super-powered teenage girls business to Rossum.
** We seriously need a fanfic using this concept. Use time travel to have Echo, the crew of Serenity and the Scoobies team up to take them down in the present and future.
* That also explains why her getting taken was like one big [[BigNon LippedSequitur Alligator MomentScene]].
 
== Slayer's powers increase dramatically after their 18th birthday ==
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* That makes sense because look at who Buffy fought before her 18th. Big Bad 1 + 2 were just vampires but who does she face after her 18th? An original demon, a government sponsored group of demon hunters, a hell god, the personification of dark magic, and the personification of ultimate evil. Each of these villains are drastically more powerful than the Master or Angelus so it only makes sense that she would need a huge strength boost to deal with them.
** Remember, The Ascended Mayor was fought by an army, and killed with a C4 trap. Those demon hunters were run by the US Government. We do great with killing large armies, but give us a small guerrilla force to fight and we get our asses kicked (See: Korea and 'Nam). The hellgod was only beat due to combined effort, her being distracted and an [[Expy]] of Mjolnir. She didn't beat Dark Willow, or even fight her much, and it was Xander's little speech that got her to calm down. Plus, The First had the small problem of being unable to touch anything, and might have still been regaining his strength from that large drop in power he must have gotten when all of LA went under Jasmine's control. Really, the First lacked any power besides for the ability to influence someone.
*** The main thing that makes a large established force lose a guerrilla conflict is when the guerillas have the support of the native population and can indistinguishably blend with them. That's a little harder for demons and vampires than it is for, oh, the Viet Cong.
 
== The Slayer is Neo. ==
Building off of the previous WMG the world has to be kept in balance. As the Slayer grows in strength (or number) the amount and strength of the evil automatically balances the equation. Killing the Slayer while she's still young and weak (or in Buffy's case not the Slayer because Faith is THE Slayer) keeps the world world safe by keeping the [[Sorting Algorithm of Evil|evil low end.]] It also explains the Trio. With Buffy completely off after being yanked from heaven there was no need for enormous evil.
== Dawn Summers is an avatar of Yog-Sothoth from [[H.P. Lovecraft]]'s [[Cosmic Horror Story|Cthulhu Mythos]]. ==
One of Yog-Sothoth's aliases is "The Key" -- Dawn—Dawn's known pre-human identity -- andidentity—and like her, it controls access to all times and places in and out of the material universe. The Monks of Dagon and the Dagon Sphere also point to Lovecraft, as Dagon was a servant of Cthulhu. In fact, the [[Backstory]] of the series, with the Earth being home to eldritch monsters in prehistory, is all but identical with that of the Mythos.
* Also, both Dawn and Yog-Sothoth have been described as [[Energy Beings|beings of light]].
 
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* In real life (whatever that is) many bisexuals are more attracted to one sex than the other; although they are attracted to both- they tend to prefer on over the other. That may be the case with Willow- who likes both; but likes girls more.
* More likely she's bisexual, but the trauma of what Oz did, how he did it, and why he did it led her to subconsciously deny male attraction and think that she's a lesbian. Canonically, she's liked more men than women, but women have gone better for her. Which, considering Tara, says quite a bit about my gender...
* 'The Fluke', which was a relationship based ''entirely'' on lust and hormones, cannot even exist unless Willow is either a) capable of feeling sexual attraction to a man or b) is a manipulative bitca of the worst kind that was deliberately gaslighting Xander for the purpose of ruining his relationship with Cordelia. Since b) is ''absurd'', we're left with a).
 
== Not only is Willow bi, the reason she's not into guys any more is magical backlash from the spell against Oz and Veruca. ==
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== Warren built a robot Buffy first. ==
It's rather suspicious that Warren's robotic girlfriend is strong enough to fight Buffy on an equal footing -- surelyfooting—surely it would be simpler to make a human-strength robot. It becomes even more suspicious when you realize the robot is about Buffy's height and build; and Warren admits to knowing Buffy from high school. Obviously, Warren's first robot was a copy of Buffy, super-strength included. He just changed its appearance later on, perhaps because he was afraid Buffy would discover it. This meant he could easily change it back when Spike requested the Buffybot.
* But Warren, being the hardcore [[Genre Savvy]] Nerd that he is, would automatically aim for a robot with [[Super-Powered Robot Meter Maids|stereotypical Sci-Fi attributes]]. He probably would have made it a [[Do-Anything Robot]] with built-in lasers and jets if he had more time.
* Besides, it's Sunnydale. Having a robot girlfriend who can punch through a brick wall is common sense, what with all those gangs on PCP attacking people with barbecue forks.
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*** The Mother in the S2 episode with the giant, spine-sucking pubic lice slugs from the egss was ''totally'' a Dalek with a demon in. Unfortunately, this proves that Daleks have souls.
* Rose is a slayer.
** If Rose is a slayer, then Ace must be a potential who [[Missed the Call|never got the call]]. This would suggest that, if she survived that long, she must have gotten [[Took a Level Inin Badass|even more badass]] around 2003 ...
* In the [[Angel/WMG|Angel]] WMG section, there are some compelling arguments that The Immortal, from one ''[[Angel]]'' episode, is [[Torchwood|Jack Harkness.]]
* It could be both a show and fact in the Whoniverse. Which means...
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She merely forgot who and what she was. It explains her sexual identity confusion (the PTB's are genderless), her intelligence, and her disproportionately rapid growth of skills with both information systems and magic. It also explains why she grows arrogant the more power she uses (although this has happened in [[Real Life]] to people who gain [[Small Name, Big Ego|only a little power]]).
 
== [[Claymore|Claymores]]s are Slayers. ==
Female warriors created by a shadowy organisation by infusing girls with demonic/yoma power. Does this seem familiar? Demonic powers are stronger in the Claymore-verse, making the Claymores more powerful, but Claymores are at risk of succumbing to their demonic nature themselves. Also note that in the Buffyverse, there are no male Slayers known to exist; in the Claymore universe, attempts at creating male warriors were abandoned because they fell to their demonic nature too easily... perhaps the same thing happened when the watchers tried to infuse a male with Slayer power in the Buffyverse?
 
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== Tara was killed by a sniper sent by The First or some other agent of the apocalypse ==
It strains credibility (even within the context of the show) that the shot that killed Tara could have come from Warren's gun. Someone was trying to bring about the End of the World, and it simply coincided with Warren's attack on the Scoobies.
* Alternatively, the second shooter deliberately framed Warren to give the Scoobies the perfect fall guy-- oneguy—one who believes that he did it. While the Scoobies are chasing after him, the real killer gets to escape scot-free, knowing that Willow will go evil and kill someone for a crime he did not <s> actually</s> technically commit (he did ''shoot'' Buffy in cold blood).
** The second shooter ''convinced'' Warren to go after Buffy with a gun, and even asked him to do it at a specific time under the pretense of getting a good look, or else used magic or hypnosis to go after Buffy at the time specified.
* This 'second shooter' would have had to follow Warren because Willow uses Tara's blood to find the person who killed Tara, not Warren specifically.
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== Amy's time spent stuck as a rat messed with her mind. ==
Her greater recklessness and lower inhibitions explain why her magic seems more powerful-- shepowerful—she was [[I Am Not Left-Handed|not holding back]] anymore.
* You'd think that if Amy had already possessed the sort of powers she and Willow showed in 6th season, she would have come up with something better than "irreversibly turn into a rat" when people tried to burn her at the stake.
** Well...yanno... spells tend to go really wrong in Sunnydale.
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**** There are [[Real Life]] conditions only seen in girls that are X-linked dominant with a lethal recessive form. For example, Rett Syndrome in girls causes an acquired form of severe autism, and in boys causes a severe degenerative brain disorder that kills them in infancy. It could be that being a Potential is genetically determined by an X-linked gene, which is fatal unless you have a normal allele as well - or else Potentials without a normal allele have something really bad happen if they're ever called (maybe they turn into a demon?). Therefore, an XXY guy would be just fine as a Slayer, but would never get called because the Slayer spell was designed to only call girls. Principal Wood could be an uncalled male Potential, which would explain why he managed to hold his own fighting vampires.
* If this is the case, how did both the coven and Willow miss him when looking for Potentials in Season 7?
** The Y chromosome shields him from detection-- thedetection—the spell was only looking for fully-female Potentials.
 
== Buffy was hand-picked by the Powers That Be to be the Slayer as part of a [[Gambit Roulette]] to replace the ineffective Watchers' Council with the more powerful Scooby Gang. ==
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== If Buffy turns evil, then Spike will be compelled to kill or redeem her, or else lose his soul. ==
Angel got his soul as a curse. Therefore, he loses his soul whenever it stops being a curse--thatcurse—that is, when it makes him happy.
 
Spike got his soul "so Buffy can get what she deserves". So he should lose his soul if Buffy ever ''doesn't'' get what she deserves.
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== The Watcher's Council has been outright evil since forever ==
They do their thing to knock off the competition. They do good as a propoganda machine. Saving the world means that there is a world for them to screw around with, like how Lex Luthor has assisted in saving the world because it's where he keeps all his stuff.
* It would also explain so much more. When, for the first time in history, there are two Slayers, who shows up? First, a psychopathic nutjob who faked being a new Watcher because of a paperwork error. Sure. Uh huh. What kind of remotely competent ancient conspiratorial organization can't put out a simple burn notice to everyone who needs to know (such as the Field Watchers like Giles) the instant one of their senior operatives goes renegade? But nobody calls to say 'Hey, Giles, one of our female watchers went insane'. Then the person they finally DO send is an ineffectual loser who nearly wets his pants in his first fight, and one who specifically LACKS the confidence of at least one highly-placed senior Watcher (his own father, as it happens).
** Wesley in particular is highly suspicious; Faith's original Watcher, who was apparently assigned to her when she was only a Slayer Potential, was byapparently allsomeone accountsFaith aloved highly-competentvery much and deeplygot caringalong womanwith thatquite well. (While we have virtually no canon on Faith's lovedpre-Sunnydale likelife, on the show Faith is upset/concerned about the loss of her original Watcher to a motherdegree andthat she has never shown about anyone else save Angel in AtS season 4, who Faithby servedthat diligentlypoint andwas wellFaith's ''new'' mentor figure.) So, Thethe Council ''already knows'' exactly what kind of Watcher Faith needs, and her first Watcher would presumably have written her a glowing set of recommendations (as she apparently liked Faith very much, and Faith kills vampires pretty damn good). So what do they do? Neglect her for months and then send her the exact opposite of her prior Watcher, and a guy who needs a lot more seasoning to be any kind of decent Watcher, and then pretend to be surprised when it crashes and burns. Talk about deliberately trying to fail!
*** In light of that, consider that Faith and Buffy are both on their second Watchers, their first ones having died in service... but Giles is an entirely sensible replacement for Merrick (Merrick worked well with Buffy, and Giles has similar experience and style to what's already shown to work well with her before, so expecting the pattern to continue is only logical), while the absurdity of picking Wesley Wyndham-Price as a replacement for Diana Dormer was already analyzed above. What changed in the interim? Buffy was the sole Slayer... Faith was a Slayer ''after'' the forking of the Slayer line. I can't see any other difference. Not even Faith's problematic background explains it... Buffy's original pre-Slayer background is of a cheerleader airhead who combines the worst features of pre-reconstructed Cordelia and Harmony. Hardly the sort of thing that inspires confidence.
**** Kendra is admittedly a break in this pattern, but a) She never lost her original Watcher, who was selected for her back when she was only a Potential and before the splitting of the Slayer line and b) as a Council-raised Potential from early childhood on, the Council would value her more highly because they've put a lot more investment in.
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While Buffy may not be creative enough to invent her detailed life, Dawn probably is. Having moved to a new town at the age of ten or so, isolated and probably socially awkward, she creates a fictional alter ego for herself. Older, prettier, and supernaturally powerful, Buffy (a name that would probably seem appealing to a ten year old) is [[Informed Ability|supposed to be]] cool and popular, and yet is suspiciously unable to choose the right outfit for a party, because ''Dawn'' would have no idea what to wear. Her only friends are sweet but dorky, possibly based on people in Dawn's real life social circle.
 
Eventually, Dawn begins to view all this as [[Old Shame]]. (Note the burning of years' worth of diaries upon the discovery that Dawn is the Key.) Not ready to give it up, she tries to improve the series by introducing new characters and settings and a more impressive villain, and by changing Willow from a shy nerd to a [[Darker and Edgier|badass lesbian witch]]. (She portrays more and more magic use, possibly having gotten into schoolgirl Wicca on the side. Also she clearly doesn't understand homosexuality yet.) She also writes herself in (as [[Author Avatar|herself]], not her [[Mary Sue|idealized]] big sister) and falls into many of the traps common to writers at that age--Dawnage—Dawn-the-character is the sort-of long-lost sister of the main character, mysterious and more than she seems, the center of everyone's attention with the fate of the world in her hands, which is supposed to result in her death but doesn't. Spike is friendly with her and allows PG romantic tension with the most attractive (to a young teen) character, and even Glory is nice to her toward the end ([[Crowning Moment of Funny|hilariously]]).
 
== The Buffyverse version of [[Joss Whedon]] is a member of the Scooby organization in the Season Eight comics ==
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* The Master also bears a definite resemblance to the First Evil's "pure" uber-vamps. That would imply that he was one of the first vampires and thus his blood is less "corrupted" by humanity. So his descendants, being 2nd- or 3rd-generation vamps while most are probably something like 1000th-generation, explains why they're so much stronger.
** The Master can speak while the ubervamps seemingly can't so he's not one of them but he might be a close descendent. Say, 2 generations removed from the ubervamps.
*** According to comics continuity the Master was sired by a True Demon during a summoning ritual, so he's only ''one'' generation removed. In fact, the original True Demon that created vampires at the end of the Demon Age is not the same one that sired the Master; the bloodline of Aurelius is actually a ''completely different bloodline of vampiredom in general''. (However, as the two demons in question were the same type of demon, both sets of their descendants show very similar traits. The Aurelius vampire simply has a better, more powerful set of them.)
* The "bloodlines matter" theory would also explain why some vampires seem capable of emotions beyond self-interest and hate, but others are basically cannon fodder. The Master's line tends to throw vamps who are more emotional, better fighters and are smarter. Think about it - Dru and Spike are capable of love, and Darla and Angelus are vicious ''way'' beyond normal vampires. That kind of nastiness comes from intelligence. I figure Harmony got turned by someone from Aurelius's line, too; there must have been a lot of that bloodline wandering around Sunnydale since they'd had the Master locked in the sewers for decades.
* This is pretty much canon (at least in [[Broad Strokes]]), since the line to which Angelus belongs has (and, I believe, is [[Word of God|confirmed to have]]) greater resistance to sunlight (Angel gets little more than a skin-deep flesh wound and some [[Heroic RROD|Battle Fatigue]] from weak-but-direct sunlight over a few seconds or more, Spike can sprint around the campus under his jacket or a blanket and get where he's going relatively unscathed beyond some steam and a few nasty knuckle burns).
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== The end of Normal Again is true, but Buffy's still the slayer ==
The revelations of vampires, demons, etcetera, combined with the amount of duty weighing on her, and not being able to tell anyone - this got too much for her, and she created a whole fantasy world.
* Normal Again, true? Buffy did a tip-top job of creating a spin-off then. And there are things that just don't work--Buffywork—Buffy is imagining Spike dreaming of Buffy? Buffy can get into her friends' and enemies' heads whenever the series switches point of view? Normal Again was an interesting episode but the idea that Buffy's imagining the whole thing just doesn't make sense in the 'Verse.
** That's why I theorize...
** Nah. It was all the demon and The Trio.
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== Twilight is actually Caleb. ==
The only reason a comic book villain wears a mask is because the audience--audience—the the readers-- havereaders—have already met his true identity. The comic has re-introduced virtually EVERY single male character since the beginning of the series, with the exception of Buffy's father.
 
We know Twilight is incredibly strong. We have no proof that Caleb * couldn't* fly. And the red gash on Twilight's mask is vertical-- resemblingvertical—resembling a bloody stain left behind by someone who has been previously cut in half from the gut-on-upwards? We've only seen the side of Twilight's neck, not the front. Who's to say he hasn't been re-stitched and resurrected by the First?
* Furthermore, during Buffy's fight with Twilight the first move she makes is an upward-swing groin-strike. How does he respond? He blocks it perfectly, and responds with something like "that isn't going to work a second time". The only way that sequence makes ANY sense is if A. Twilight is indeed some sort of uberCaleb or B. Twilight was just sorta hanging around in the background watching during Buffy's final fight with Caleb.
* Jossed. Your version is better though.
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== Dr. Walsh from season 4 is a terrible psychologist ==
Her assumption that Buffy has no strong male role model is based on correlation, not proper statistics. She assumes that Buffy being an active woman is a weakness on her part, but it's the only thing that keeps her going as a SlaonSlayer. havingHer thatjudgement knowledgeis areprobably virtuallybased nilon her own psychosis, a jealousy of her strength over her creations, Adam and Riley, who she treats like sons. Saying she has no father figure is a direct blight on Giles, even if she doesn't know it, and completely out of line.
* Isn't this one pretty much confirmed when she screws up so badly at almost all of her manipulations?
* In addition, he also wrote "Buffy: The Vampire Slayer" in order to help obfuscate the existance of an actual Vampire Slayer named Buffy, and to give hope to people who have encountered demons.
* Well, we see on the show that she's a terrible AI programmer, a terrible biochemist, and has a grasp of experimental methodology that makes Dr. Victor Frankenstein look like the patron deity of lab safety, so it entirely fits that she's also a horrible clinical psychologist.
Most likely, the Buffyverse Joss is a warlock or technician who works for Buffy. He wrote ''Fray'' in his spare time, and it is published exclusively within the organization.
* Note: It's the panel where Andrew complains about being bored while three Slayers play strip poker in the background. A fourth is farther back, reading it.
* Or perhaps he fell through the universes and is our Joss.
 
== Harmony is amazing in bed ==
There's no other reason why Spike would have tolerated her for that long.
* She was a cheerleader and the second most popular girl in the most popular clique in the school. All this adds up to Harmony being a sexpert
** Makes sense, as stated above, Spike put up with her for that long. Furthermore, Hamilton looked ''awfully'' satisfied after bedding her towards the end of Angel S5.
 
== Drusilla went by another name as a human ==
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== The battle of the Hellmouth was the biblical Armageddon. Good won. ==
As of now, the forces of good include an army of several hundred [[Super Soldier|Super Soldiers]]s committed to the cause of righteousness, and a witch of near-deific power. Wolfram & Hart may have been destroyed (see above), and the First is in retreat. Evil is still present in the world, but it is weak. Buffy's enemies consist primarily of those who don't want an army of [[Action Girl|Action Girls]]s with superpowers running around, not forces bent on destroying the world.
 
== The First's attempt at an apocalypse in Season Seven was a last-ditch gambit to stop Jasmine ==
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== Spike has his original human soul, while Angel does not ==
Spike-with-a-soul is hardly very different to Spike-without-a-soul, or much different (in his base characteristics) from William. Angel is nothing like Angelus ''or'' Liam. Angel's soul was randomly plucked from the 'ether' and put into him when he was cursed, and isn't the same one that Liam possessed when he was alive. It's possible that he recieves a different soul each time he is re-cursed, as well -- itwell—it would explain the slight personality shifts he went though after each time:
* Before Buffy and pre-season 2, Angel was more hands-off and neutral than anything, and preferred to wallow in his guilt rather than do anything about it, for the better part of an entire ''century''.
* After Willow restored him the first time, his 'second soul' during the early episodes of ''[[Angel]]'' was more brave and outgoing, and got off his ass and decided to become a good samaritan. Quite a shift from his rat-eating self of the past...
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* It doesn't have to be drug induced anything. All of the stuff she talks about can be attributed to how she died. The connected to everything part could be because the portal was a breach in all the dimensions. Her not remembering her mother being there, despite being sure she was, could be because as she died she thought about seeing her mother in heaven. Basically it would be her final thoughts stretched across the entirety of the time she was dead, because she was at peace with how she was dying.
* It's hardly like a pocket prison dimension that traps you in an illusion of happiness is anything new in the Buffyverse. Wolfram & Hart used The Dimension Of Fake Suburbia to keep prisoners on ice in season 5 of AtS.
** Jasmine similarily used a fake ascension to Heaven to keep Cordelia's soul out of the way while she ran around with Cordelia's body in AtS season 4.
* I forget which fanfic it was, but there was one that had Buffy's certainty that she'd been in Heaven exploded by one [[Armor-Piercing Question]]:
{{quote|'''Dawn:''' Was mom there?}}
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In the same way as vampires, [[Immortality|Type III]], only they have a weakness to blood loss or loss of certain internal organs instead of crosses and (to a greater degree than humans and slayers) sunlight. The main difference is that they (probably) get to age. Alternatively, they ''don't'' age. The Crucible is to take out any Potentials who were turned early enough that they would be incapable of surviving, and as a bonus a, say, fourteen-year-old Slayer wouldn't have to excuse why she still looked like she did as a mid-adolescent when in her twenties.
* As mentioned elsewhere on this page, maturation and aging are separate but related biological processes. You can have one but not the other. The often-used model of 'grow to biological adulthood, then stop' used in many fictions for 'immortal' races has some basis in fact.
* From what we saw in her death scene in Spike's flashback, Nikki Wood (who was age 22 when she died) was ''clearly'' not trapped in a young teenager's body, but instead actually looked like someone in their early 20s. That would be support for the 'maturation but not aging' theory.
 
== Buffy would have been immortal [[Achilles' Heel|except for]] the Thaumogenesis demon as long as it existed. ==
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== Buffy has been immortal since ''Bargaining''. ==
For one thing, that's why Buffy doesn't register as a human anymore, based on Spike's chip (though we really don't know how it works). Humans normally get a 1-way ticket past Anubis, and the ritual invoked Osiris to tell him that you're supposed to go back to earth if your friends want you so much-- butmuch—but doesn't give you a new ticket. You can die, but your ba and ka will still be stuck on earth and may as well continue moving around, slaying demons, breathing.
 
== The Urn of Osiris was ''meant'' to be broken during the ritual. The spell went perfectly, if in a bit of an unorthodox way. ==
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== Dawn has some Slayer Abilities. ==
She has shown that she is actually pretty skilled and strong, and I just don't think that just watching Buffy could allow her to be able to do things like that roll and kill thing (which, without Slayer abilities, takes alot of training). It would make sense, as she is basically an altered clone of Buffy, with either close or identical DNA, and the same soul. If the Slayer selection has something to do with the soul, it would make sense for her to be at least partially a Slayer, as other magical things (see: reality warping bubble dimension thing at the end of Season Five) think of them as the same person.
* As mentioned elsewhere on this page, if being a Potential Slayer has anything to do with genetics then Dawn ''has'' to be a Potential, because genetically she's Buffy's slightly-tweaked clone. Her failure to respond to the Activation spell at the end of s7 is presumably because Dawn's ''already'' invested with a mystical essence—the Key—and so there's no room for the Slayer spirit as well.
 
== Buffy's "Heaven" was the [[The Matrix|Perfect Matrix]]. ==
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== Buffy Ascended when she died the second time. ==
For those of you who have seen ''[[Angel]]'', this will make much more sense. During Angel's second fight with Skip, Skip mentions that nobody has left Paradise before, which is where Cordelia had ascended to. He then goes on to say that there was one person who had, a Slayer. This is said in ''Angel'' Season 4, which takes place during ''Buffy'' Season 7. The whole Paradise thing would also fit with the whole "I think I was in Heaven" thing. It's unlikely that Skip was lying, as it's unlikely he knew that Angel knew Buffy.
* As Cordelia's Ascension at the end of AtS season 3 was later revealed to be a fakejob by Jasmine, that ties directly into the WMG above re: Buffy in a fake heaven.
 
== Spike/William the Bloody has/[[That Man Is Dead|had]] Asperger's Syndrome [[Broken Base|and/or]] high-functioning autism. ==
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* Even if it wasn't originally meant to be a [[Take That]] against ''Twilight'', it certainly became one. Compare [http://buffy.wikia.com/wiki/File:Buffytwi.jpg this] cover of ''Last Gleaming, Part 1'' to [http://twilightsaga.wikia.com/wiki/New_Moon_%28film%29 this] cover of the ''New Moon'' DVD.
* It's certainly a sly [[Shout-Out|nod]] to ''[[Twilight (novel)|Twilight]]''. It's not insulting though, so I don't think it's meant as a [[Take That]].
** The ''cover'' isn't insulting, but in the season eight comics, Twilight is an evil entity possessing and manipulating Buffy's protagonists in order to transform the world into one where magic is dead and women are less empowered. That's negative. Also, it's more than just a nod -- thenod—the idea that Twilight is using Buffy and Angel for its own selfish purposes and leaving a screwed-up society in its wake ''provides the main plot for the entire season''. This troper is surprised and a little confused that more people aren't making a fuss over this. Did I miss the fuss?
*** I think I get the story now, but please correct me wherever I'm wrong.
 
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In the Buffyverse, a soul is basically a conscience, making one feel guilty about doing evil. Spike loses his soul and still loves his mom, loves Dru, and needs to be coaxed by Angel into his more monsterous activities. After he gains his soul back, after he gets over the insanity from suddenly feeling the guilt of thousands of murders, he's basically a slightly softer version of the same person. The only thing his soul gives him is the ability to know right from wrong. Angel, on the other hand, loses his soul and immediately begins torturing, murdering, and apocalypsing like he's trying to win an evil contest. But all he's lost is restraint - meaning he always ''wants'' to do those things, he just doesn't because he'd feel guilty about it.
* Spike's ability to love isn't that atypical. Willow and Xander in the Wishverse were clearly in love, for example. The Master was very affectionate towards Darla and The Annointed One. Angelus is the strange one for being as much of a monster as he is. There are a lot of very bad vampires out there, but most of them retain some measure of humanity. Angelus didn't. The reason that Spike is clearly Spike but Angel is nothing like Angelus is because the demon that took over William's body is less evil than the demon that took over Liam's body.
* If Angel were a repressed sadist, we'd see him actually taking opportunities to let that sadistic nature out against "acceptable" targets, targets that even Buffy or Cordelia wouldn't criticize him for beating the shit out of—i.e., demons and vampires. Except he doesn't. Angel's typical fighting style is the original all-business no-fun guy. ''Buffy'' plays around with her intended staking victim of the night more cat-and-mouse than Angel does.
** He'd also be a ''lot'' cattier with Xander than he is, which is virtually nil. A guy continually struggling with repressed sadistic impulses, who also is perhaps his planet's greatest expert in mental cruelty when his self-restraint is absent, is not just going to sit there and say nothing when somebody else continually tries to verbally zing on him; he's going to throw shit back, and its going to be shit that burns and stings. Except Angel usually doesn't.
 
== The Buffybot was borderline sapient--and in love with Spike. ==
When Willow reprogrammed the Buffybot to operate in full-time Slayer mode, she apparently still had a few quirks relating to Spike, even though Willow assured him that she'd purged all the sexbot subroutines from her system. She actually did--itdid—it's just that Buffybot had fallen for Spike on her own. Her programming clearly has her showing affection to Willow and Dawn, and she seems to love Dawn as much as she would if she were actually Buffy. And for the past three months she's seen Spike guard Dawn during every waking moment. She knows that Spike loves Dawn, has been tortured for her, and would probably die for her. Which leads her to love Spike as well. The reason she expresses it so strangely is because, well, she's a sexbot. She's basically speaking in her first language.
 
== Buffy was never in any Heaven. ==
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== Warren will become a vengeance demon ==
This is mostly based on just the show itself, though I don't know if it's actually made impossible by the season 8 comics. Anya became a vengeance demon who avenges wronged women against men. Given Warren's issues with women, he probably considers himself wronged by women and could be given the job to avenge wronged men against women. Warren and Anya are actually pretty similar--considersimilar—consider what Anya tried to do to Xander after the failed wedding (I can just imagine Warren making a woman's breasts rot off the same as Anya tried to do to Xander's penis).
* Well, as of 8.39, {{spoiler|''splat''. [[Jossed|Now he certainly won't]].}}
 
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Finally, because I firmly believe that Season Nine, in some way, shape, or form {{spoiler|will have Tara be resurrected, somehow, it is a sign of Tara’s sanity returning, followed by ''The Gift'', though likely having forgotten the whole ‘verse she cooked-up in her head.}}
 
Back in reality, either Buffy [[Killed Off for Real|stays dead]] or [[Back Fromfrom the Dead|doesn’t]], but either way, the actual events in the Buffyverse post-''The Gift'' were a lot different. You can think up whatever you want for that, if you want. [[But Now I Must Go|My work here is done.]]
* Congratulations, [[Retcon|you've fulfilled roughly 70% of the fan's wishes.]]
* And lest we forget, "insane" doesn't equal "disconnected". She percieved Dawn's true nature, after all. It's entirely possible that she actually got to visit team Angel in this reality, probably twice: first time before the existence of Conner was revealed to team Angel (probably that time we saw Willow bring the news... make it the gang), then again after it (else how would she know of Angel [[If You Know What I Mean|doing it]] with Darla? Her appearances in early Season 3 are [[Retcon|Retcons]]s). Conner himself exists in reality, but we have no clue to his real character. Given all that, she could have made up Angel Seasons 3 through 6 based on her sketchy idea of him and his team, hence the mess with Conner, Angel/Angelus split personality Wall Banger and Angel's accepting of Wolfram & Hart.
 
== There have always been more than one Slayer ==
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* It doesn't track; the spell's actual effect wasn't love... it was uncontrollable desire. And we already have a damn fine reason given in the episode: Xander's motives weren't pure. He was trying to make Cordelia love him so he could hurt her the way she hurt him. Strangely enough, the goddess Amy invoked wasn't pleased.
** That can happen when you try to invoke ''[[Virgin Power|Diana]]'' for a ''[[Did Not Do the Research|lust]] [[What an Idiot!|spell]]''.
*** The spell invoked Aphrodite. Of course, invoking Aphrodite to create love for the specific purpose of not fulfilling and eventually betraying it is an equal degree of suicidal idiocy.
 
== Various famous people through time have preformed the Paragon spell. ==
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Think about it. Angel needs to be rehabilitated in exactly the same way he once helped her, they're staying in a small house together with him permanently in a bed, they're both single, they've kissed before and it was hot, and no one else intends to come near them for the foreseeable future. Two hotties in isolation together? Suuuure nothings going to happen. Plus, they're co-starring in the 25-issue ''Angel and Faith'' comic series.
* At the very least Buffy's gonna think it and she'll get pissed. Faith's realized that she's pushed away every guy who's ever been the least bit decent to her, given all they've been through Angel would be a prime candidate for love interest. Now, if that's going to happen, might Xander get a shot with Buffy?
** Jossed. Xander is with Dawn, to the point of refusing an offer to him by Buffy, and Faith has apparently decided to give up on having sex or relationships.
 
== With [[Joss Whedon]] not on the reboot, Buffy will be far far less tortured. ==
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