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A good book series can be a treat to read, but even long-running franchises aren't immune to the dreaded [[Canon Discontinuity]] demon, as these cases show.
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* ''[[Zorro]]'': at the end of ''The Curse of Capistrano'', the main villain was dead, and Zorro publicly unmasked, revealing his identity to everyone. By the third book, neither of those events had ever happened.
* The issue of Lord Soth from the ''[[Dragonlance]]'' novels, represents perhaps the unholy lovechild of Canon Discontinuity and [[Executive Meddling]]. In the novel ''Knight of the Black Rose'', TSR took the famous ''Dragonlance'' character into ''[[Ravenloft]]'', where he became a [[Blessed with Suck|Dark Lord]]. This did not sit well with one of the original authors of the ''Dragonlance'' series, Mr. Tracy Hickman who, according to rumor, demanded that TSR/Wizards of the Coast [[Retcon]] Soth's trip to Ravenloft, and [[Killed Off for Real|killed off the character for good measure]].
** It's better than that. Before dying, he repents of his crimes, regains his honor, and swears an oath to pursue redemption in his afterlife. This is a ''giant flaming [[Take That]]'' against ever putting him in ''[[Ravenloft]]'', as one of its conceits is that some people are simply so evil that they're beyond redemption - and its Dark Lords are those people.
* The rules for thought-speak in ''[[Animorphs]]'' are as follows: only Andalites (and Mercora, in ''Megamorphs'' #2) can use it in their natural form, it can be used in any morph including human, and anyone, of any species, morphed or not, can "hear" it. Events contradicting the first two [[Early Installment Weirdness|before KAA settled on the rules]] are Canon Discontinuity.
* The [[Posleen War Series]] novel ''The Hero'', by Michael Z. Williamson and [[John Ringo]], was declared non-canon, after the publishing of Tom Kratman and [[John Ringo]]'s ''Watch on the Rhine''. ([[John Ringo]] is mentioned only because his name's on the cover. Other than okaying the story outlines from the other authors, he was uninvolved in any Posleen novels not written by him solo.)
* The ''[[Red Dwarf (novel)|Red Dwarf]]'' book series starts with two novels, ''Infinity Welcomes Careful Drivers'' and ''Better Than Life'', written by Rob Grant and Doug Naylor (working collaboratively under the pen name "Grant Naylor"). After that, Naylor wrote the novel ''Last Human'' and Grant wrote the novel ''Backwards''—both of these act as the third novel in the series, in Canon Discontinuity with each other.
** This could equally fall under [[Continuity Snarl]], as ''Last Human'' very briefly [[Hand Wave|hand waves]] the events of ''Backwards'' and then goes off into its own [[Alternate Continuity]]. Parallel universes being a well-established plot element, [[MST3K Mantra|it's probably best not to think about it too hard]].
*** This is even more interesting since ''Last Human'' was actually published BEFORE ''Backwards''.
** Reading both books, it can be established that the universes of both diverge sometime during Lister's stay on Backwards Earth. [[Wild Mass Guessing|The most likely event being that in Backwards, Kochanski was unintroduced to Lister before the events of the book]].
* ''[[Orson Scott Card|The Worthing Saga]]'' has multiple levels of Canon Discontinuity. The actual "canon" consists primarily of the full-length novel. The stories included in the back of a recent edition came first, but Card didn't have them on hand when writing the novel, so a lot of the details differ, and he essentially made them an [[Alternate Universe]]. The stories not included are all [[Old Shame|so awful]] that he wouldn't even discuss them.
* For a while, it was common for Clive Cussler's [[NUMA Series]] novels to end in sweeping global changes... that were promptly ignored by later novels in the series. These endings have included such things as the creation of a perfect "Star Wars" weapon system that would make nuclear war impossible, and—a particularly egregious example—the President using a forgotten treaty recovered from a buried train wreck to merge the United States and Canada into "The United States of Canada".
** Actually, if you check the maps in the books (and one or two of the later odd references here or there) the Canada thing stays canon. It's just really almost never explicitly mentioned. If you've got the right hardcovers though it can occasionally be found on some of the maps. No idea whether it's still really canon, but it was referenced in at least one other book. Of course, aside from keeping track of Dirk's car collection the series as a whole isn't really that big on continuity. What with the [[Deus Ex Machina]] of the [[Author Avatar]] it's almost [[Magical Realism]].
* The [[Known Space]] short story "A Darker Geometry" was declared non-canon shortly after it was published. [[Just for Pun|Also]], the canonical description of being inside a stasis field when it is activated is a single-word paragraph reading ''Discontinuity.''
* [[Plato]] in ''[[The Republic]]'', when discussing censoring stories, starts with the necessity of censoring out all myths that attribute evil behavior to the gods.
* When finishing ''[[The Dark Tower]]'' series, [[Stephen King]] himself stated right before the very end that fans could just stop reading here if they so wished, and simply be happy with the fact that {{spoiler|Roland reached the Dark Tower and finally entered it.}} What follows ''is'' rather cruel, [[And I Must Scream|after all.]]
* The various cast members of ''[[Saturday Night Live]]'' (including John's brother Jim) agree that ''[[Wired]]'' was no John Belushi's life and that it was all lies.
* Le Cinquieme Livre of Gargantua's adventures, allegedly written by Rabelais, may be the most impressive example. People began doubting his paternity starting from its very apparition during the Renaissance. The conflict only really came to a conclusion in 1994 with the help of Mireille Huchon's annotations and arguments. However this does not resolve all issues since this part of Gargantua's adventures seems to have been written through a totally different perspective which does not always fit too well with the saga's previous books.
* Many of the readers who read the last book in [[Stephen King]]'s [[Dark Tower]] series now want to forget that he ever wrote an ending to the series.
** To be fair, King does warn readers not to proceed onwards.
* Many [[Science Fiction]] fans refuse to acknowledge any ''[[Dune]]'' books not written by Frank Herbert, despite this ending the series on a massive cliffhanger. They choose to follow Muad'Dib's philosophy, instead: "Arrakis teaches the attitude of the knife -- chopping off what's incomplete and saying: 'Now, it's complete because it's ended here.' " Some go even further and ignore books after ''Children of Dune'' or ''Dune Messiah'', or even accept only the original novel.
** It must be acknowledged that even Herbert himself [[Canon Discontinuity|broke down on continuity]] a couple of times.
** Some fans simply believe that Brian and Kevin CANNOT MEAN TO END LIKE THAT.
** Several fans use the non-canon (but Frank Herbert-approved) ''Dune Encyclopedia'''s take on the history of the universe because, among other reasons, it averts the [[Robot War]] aspects.
** It should be noted that the reason why any books not written by Frank Herbert himself are not considered canon is not that the new books suck, but because there are so many blatant contradictions that it doesn't take much logic to assume the new authors are making it up. An example is that the new authors have written a plot point about the main character, Paul Atreides, having been born on the planet Kaitain and had many adventures on other worlds. This is a contradiction with the originals, when it was stated in the first book, the first chapter, the first paragraph, the very first ''sentence'', that Paul was born on Caladan and had never been anywhere else before the events of that book.
*** And there's the whole "Leto the First's BFF is a robot-man that, at the time, would have caused Caladan to be RAZED FROM ORBIT by every other noble house do to the whole 'Machine enslaved mankind, so we don't even use calculators' mentality".
* Many fans are of the opinion there are only four (or possibly three... or two) books in ''The [[Hitch Hikers Guide to The Galaxy]]'' trilogy. Either option means Arthur has a chance of living [[Happily Ever After]].
** It is written somewhere (maybe in ''Salmon of Doubt'') that Adams was very depressed while writing ''Mostly Harmless'' and [[Canon Discontinuity|intended to write a sixth book, reversing the ending]], before he suffered [[Author Existence Failure]].
* Some fans of [[Dean Koontz]]'s Frankenstein series regard only the first two books in the series as occurring. Dead/Alive, Lost Souls and Dead Town did not happen.
* [[Terry Pratchett]] has stated that the (unnamed) Patrician in ''[[Discworld/The Colour of Magic|The Colour of Magic]]'' is Havelock Vetinari (though written by a worse writer), but since a) he doesn't act much like Vetinari, b) it's a little dicey timeline-wise, and c) it's hard to believe that Vetinari could ''ever'', in ''any'' alternate timeline, have been an obese man who threw wild parties and ate candied jellyfish, many fans choose to believe that the earlier Patrician is one of Vetinari's predecessors (Snapcase or Winder).
* Depending on the ''[[Harry Potter (novel)|Harry Potter]]'' fan, some may completely ignore the epilogue to the last novel, completely ignore the last novel, or completely ignore the last two novels, either in order to "preserve" the characters in [[He's Just Hiding|the state that they found most attractive]] or to prevent the characters from [[Die for Our Ship|ending up in the wrong pairings]]. There's even a commonly-used [[Fanfic]] abbreviation - EWE, [[Fun with Acronyms|for]] "'''E'''pilogue? '''W'''hat '''E'''pilogue?"
** Bizarrely, many authors keep the Epilogue and everything else in canon -- ''and then write fics with alternate ships anyway''. Apparently the half-dozen [[Identical Grandson|identical children]] with [[Fail O'Suckyname|awful names]] made something of an impression.
** Though they will admit the truth if pressed, many Potter fans still like to believe that Sirius Black is living happily on a farm somewhere with other animagi.
** Another group of fans accept the books but [[Death of the Author|firmly deny J. K. Rowling any right]] to discuss what happened to any characters after the end of the books.
** Fanon is somewhat divided on whether or not to take anything said by Rowling in interviews and Q&A sessions as canon, since they've resulted in more than one quite obvious [[Ass Pull]].
*** There are some aspects, however, that are almost universally ignored. For instance, there exists all of one major Next Generation fanfiction that acknowledge McGonagall having retired by 2017. And even then she comes back.
** Whether or not Pottermore should be canon for most of the supporting and minor characters, as many fans suspect their biographies were written after the fact. Particularly with regard to aspects never even hinted at in the books.
* The [[Star Wars Expanded Universe]] novel ''Jedi Prince'' young adult novels (also known as ''[[The Glove of Darth Vader]]'' after the first book) are refused to be accepted as ever occurring by fans, helped by only two points from the entire series ever being brought up again, ever: the concept of [[Ridiculously-Human Robots|Human Replica Droids]], and Duro being a wasteland, polluted to the point of being uninhabitable by industrial waste.
 
** The ''[[New Jedi Order]]'' series had an enormous number of fans rejecting it outright, mostly revolving around claims of making ''Star Wars'' needlessly [[Darker and Edgier]]. This opinion was pushed well into the majority after the Swarm trilogy and the ''[[Legacy of the Force]]'' series, each considered [[Fanon Discontinuity]] for their own reasons, with only a small minority still holding out after events such as {{spoiler|Mara Jade's death}}. ''[[Fate of the Jedi]]'' initially looked to [[Fix Fic|regain some of the lost fans]], but then served only to further diminish their numbers.
** Before ''NJO'', individual opinions on what was considered [[Fanon Discontinuity]] or not was vastly varied between individual fans, ranging in extremes from only discounting obvious pieces (such as the ''Jedi Academy'' trilogy and ''The Courtship of Princess Leia'') to ignoring absolutely everything set after [[The Thrawn Trilogy]].
** Even among those who accept a lot of it, you'll be hard pressed to find an Expanded Universe fan who doesn't ignore at least one aspect of continuity. The novel ''The Crystal Star'' is generally considered the worst ''Star Wars'' book ever, thanks to its slow plot, out-of-character actions, and general weird crap, and the writers seem to agree.
** Of course, there's always those that ignore the Expanded Universe completely.
* The sequels to [[Arthur C. Clarke]]'s ''[[Rendezvous With Rama]]'' are generally left out of existence by anyone who happened to read them.
** Ditto the last two sequels to the ''[[2001: A Space Odyssey]]'' series
* A number of fans prefer to deny the ''[[Ender's Game]]'' series kept going after ''Speaker For the Dead''. Others ignore anything after the original, and still others discount the Ender-focused sequels but include the more recent Bean-focused series.
* The ''[[The Dark Elf Trilogy|Drizzt]]'' books, like any long-running series, have things that some fans just won't acknowledge, and things that ''other'' fans won't acknowledge.
** For example, there are those who think Salvatore should never have had Wulfgar come back from the dead, even if it meant [[Executive Meddling|another author doing so, and probably more poorly]], or the ''Spine Of The World'' novel never being written. Others think Wulfgar should never have died anyway.
** There are those who think that Drizzt's attitude since about ''Starless Night'' on has just been a big emo joke he's played on his friends, and those that apparently believe his playful, half-crazed personality from the first trilogy was a mask he wore for the world.
** Some don't believe that it took something like ten years after Wulfgar's death for Catti-brie and Drizzt to go to bed together, and some think it's a trick and never happened at all, and some can't believe that either the relationship or the marriage happened so quickly. More recently, some just don't understand why {{spoiler|Salvatore would go to the trouble of putting them together and setting up a possibility for her to live a very long life--i.e. magery--only to marginalize her character for the last two books, hand her a [[Distress Ball]], use her as a plot device to put the characters where he need them to go, [[Stuffed in The Fridge|and then kill her and put her in a heaven that]] ''[[Fridge Logic|Drizzt won't even]]'' [[Downer Ending|get to go to]].}} ''Especially'' when he could have avoided all that and just taken {{spoiler|her magic away and had her die of old age before the new era in 4th Edition [[Forgotten Realms]]}}.
* The various cast members of ''[[Saturday Night Live]]'' (including John's brother Jim) agree that ''[[Wired]]'' was no John Belushi's life and that it was all lies.
* "The Mazarin Stone" (adapted by Arthur Conan Doyle from his play "The Crown Diamond") gets this treatment by ''[[Sherlock Holmes]]'' fans, for it is one of only two stories that are narrated in third-person, breaking the long tradition of Watson as the biographer (and the rare examples of Sherlock narrating his own adventures), with an [[Idiot Plot]] of trying to recover the stone - via the Villains showing off the stolen goods ''right in the Great Detective's home'' after he switched places with a wax dummy of himself. Granted the dummy was a [[Chekhov's Gun]] since "The Empty House", but ''still''!
** Many Holmesians/Sherlockians discount the Holmes-narrated ones.
** Some have argued that everything after 'The Final Problem' was invented by Watson. More conservative fans have argued that the most of the stories in ''The Casebook of Sherlock Holmes'' never happened.
** ''The Final Problem,'' in which [[Creator Breakdown|Doyle tried to kill off Holmes]] after becoming sick of his own brain child, got a [[Retcon|new story written]] [[Not Quite Dead|to show he survived the plunge]] due to the MASSIVE Fan Revolt, and that his Sherlock Stories were getting him more money then his other works.
* Many fans consider ''Eclipse'' the last book of the ''[[Twilight (novel)|Twilight]]'' series, to the point that there's a [[Live Journal]] community about it.
** Some casual fans who like the first book (even if it's a [[Guilty Pleasure]]) consider it the only book of the series.
* Scholars believe parts of the Ramayana were not written by Valmiki and instead interpolated by later authors. Regardless, the part where Rama sends Sita into exile on the basis of an overheard conversation, after she's long since proved her fidelity by leaping through fire, and while she is pregnant with his twins, after spending the entire plot of the epic rescuing her... didn't happen.
* Most fans of the ''[[Dragonriders of Pern]]'' series consider any and all Green and Blue riders heterosexual unless specified as gay, [[Word of God]] on the subject be damned.
** Many fans also dislike some of Todd McCaffrey's books. ...The ones that were only written by him, to be specific.
** The fandom also tends to ignore the revelations of ''Masterharper of Pern'', on the basis that all it added to Robinton's character was a pile of needless [[Wangst]].
** Some fans even choose to disregard everything about AIVAS. It was never discovered and Pern continued fighting Thread as usual for hundreds of years, thank you very much. Some fans are so militant as to ignore EVERYTHING written after the first two trilogies.
* Evan Wright's ''[[Generation Kill]]'' has a fair share of military personnel who describe it as either embellished or outright fiction.
* While August Derleth's contribution in [[H.P. Lovecraft]]'s [[Cthulhu Mythos]] can't be denied (he invented the name "Cthulhu Mythos", and helped to popularise Lovecraft's work), many people consider many elements he added into his version of the Mythos as [[Fanon Discontinuity]], as they often went completely against Lovecraft's vision. For one thing, he tried to introduce the concept of good vs evil into the Mythos (while Lovecraft himself always maintained that good and evil are concepts created by humans and cannot be applied to godlike alien beings).
** Not to mention his "elemental theory", in which he associated the various Great Old Ones and the Other Gods (he never realized distinction between the two) with the four Greek elements, no matter how little sense it makes. For example, he associated Cthulhu with Water due to his octopoid appearance and underwater prison, handily forgetting that water is the only known substance that completely blocks his telepathic powers, and that he's ''trapped'' under the sea. And a lot of fans who realized that this makes no sense, but not that the whole elemental theory simply doesn't fit into the stories try to rearrange the creatures' positions in the chart, or work with the five Chinese elements, instead.
*** A few fans even argue that the four elements wouldn't have any ''meaning'' to entities which, for the most part, aren't even made out of matter as humans understand it.
* Some fans of the [[Land of Oz|Oz books]] by [[L. Frank Baum]] refuse to acknowledge the existence/validity of those written by other authors after his death. This group included Jack Snow, the author of two of the later books, who included no references whatsoever in them to the works of Baum's previous successors.
* Some ''[[Warrior Cats]]'' fans like to believe that the first series of six books is the only series.
** ...and some [[Draco in Leather Pants|Ashfur]] fans like to believe that the series ends right before ''Long Shadows''.
** And some may think the whole SkyClan thing never exists.
* A lot of Inkheart/Inkspell fans refuse to accept the existence of the atrocity that was Inkdeath.
* ''Ardneh's Sword'' never existed for many fans of ''Empire of the East'' and the ''Swords'' series. Especially since it contained several obvious and absurd [[Retcon|retcons]].
* A few fans of Brent Weeks' [[Night Angel Trilogy]] chose to ignore the middle and last book completely, only accepting Way of the Shadows as canon. This is mostly because of [[God Mode Sue|a little sloppy characterization]] and not one, but two cases of very annoying girlfriends.
* Some of the foundational fantasy series are notorious for this. For instance:
** It is widely agreed that the original [[Dragonlance]] Chronicle Trilogy (Dragons of the Autumn Twilight, Winter Night, Spring Dawning) happened. It gets muddled after that: some refuse the Legends Trilogy completely while some acknowledge that but refuse the two Second Generation novels. Some accept the first Second Generation novel but refuse Dragons of the Summer Flame (especially since bits of it retcon many aspects of the original backstory, such as {{spoiler|Raistlin having a daughter he doesn't remember because of a [[Fridge Logic|memory spell]] }}.) while some accept both and say that's that. Since there are other novels adding on to the story, fans are divided on which to include and exclude.
** Further mention goes to the two books meant to chronicle the early days of Raistlin Majere. Opinion is widely divided on where they fit in the general continuity, if they fit in the general continuity and if they can be actually accepted to exist at all.
** R.A. Salvatore's dark elf Drizzt Do'Urden gets special mention because of the polarizing effect he has on the reader. Some refuse to go beyond the second book of the Dark Elf Trilogy, Exile while some accept that Trilogy in its entirety. Afterwards, it begins: some accept all, some stop at the subsequent Icewind Dale trilogy, some accept the following books belonging to the Legacy of the Drow and so on and so forth.
* A few ''[[Maximum Ride]]'' fans have ignored the [[Trilogy Creep]] by deciding that only the first three books are canon. The fact that the continuing stories basically became an Aesop about global warming didn't help much; neither did the fact that Patterson said he planned to only write a trilogy.
** Not to mention that the last book is a glaringly obvious [[Ass Pull]] that is little more than a reskinned recap of the series.
* Some ''[[Percy Jackson and The Olympians]]'' fans choose to ignore [[The Heroes of Olympus|The Lost Hero]] in its entirety.
** There's even some that chose to ignore the last part of The Last Olympian, choosing to end the book right after the [[Underwater Kiss]]
* There are many, many, many, many, MANY fans of ''[[The Hunger Games]]'' who choose to disregard the events of the third book entirely and come up with their own conclusions to the story, triggered by ''Mockingjay's'' [[Broken Base|arguable]] [[Wangst]], [[Character Derailment]], and [[Romantic Plot Tumor]].
* In common with the other long-running series mentioned, very few [[Anne Rice]] fans acknowledge the entire [[Vampire Chronicles]] series. Just where the line gets drawn varies, but fans generally fall into two camps: those that believe the series ended with ''Queen of the Damned'', and those that acknowledge everything up to the point where Anne Rice started the [[Crossover|Crossovers]] with the Mayfair Witches. The major point of contention seems to be when precisely Lestat became a [[God Mode Sue]] and [[Boring Invincible Hero]] (note that "if" he did is not even brought into question). But it's worth noting that not even the most diehard fans accept ''Blood Canticle''. Speaking of the Mayfairs, an awful lot of fans pretend ''that'' series ended with ''Lasher'', and a significant minority refuses to accept anything but the first book. Tellingly, neither set of fans is happy with the VC crossovers.
* Some ''[[Alex Rider]]'' fans say that {{spoiler|Alex died at the end of Scorpia and the other four did not happen, not because they were bad, but because fans like the realism of the books and refuse to believe that Alex survived a shot to the chest}}.
** Even though the reasons for his survival are explained [[Shown Their Work|in great detail]].
* Fans of [[The Book of Amber]] and [[Roger Zelazny]]'s friends (like [[George R. R. Martin]] and [[Neil Gaiman]]) usually don't want to talk about John Gregory Betancourt's ''Dawn of Amber'' prequels. One of reasons is that Zelazny, while having no problem with writing for [[Shared Universe]] (he contributted to [[Wild Cards]] and even created one shared world himself) has said that Amber is his and he never want to turn it into a franchise.
* Many fans of [[Isaac Asimov]]'s original ''[[Foundation]]'' trilogy pretend that there were no further novels after those -- and no prequel either.
* A portion of the ''[[Animorphs]]'' fandom likes to disregard the series' ending and {{spoiler|Rachel}}'s death, or at least the [[Bolivian Army Ending]] finale at the end of book 54.
* There are a number of people who are ignoring the third book in ''[[Tortall Universe|The Provost's Dog]]'' trilogy by [[Tamora Pierce]] due to varying (from [[Out-of-Character Moment|mild]] to outright [[Face Heel Turn|extreme]]) levels of [[Character Derailment]].
* Since acquired early by many fans of the franchise, ''[[Mass Effect Deception|Mass Effect: Deception]]'' has been effective immediately dismissed by members of the [[BioWare]] Social Network forums from canonicity along with producing 456 pages of hatred and a [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXVmleTSB5k book burning video]. [[BioWare]] and ''[[Mass Effect]]'' fans are notable for rarely uniting about anything related to their beloved franchise, making this a very rare moment.
* Some fans felt that ''Ghost Story'' completely and utterly destroyed the [[Dresden Files]]. More than one fanfic exists detailing Harry coming back from the dead to NOT find Murphy so far into denial that she's actually ''pathetic,'' and Molly completely ignoring everything Harry ever taught her.
 
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