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* According to the OVA, "Stranger in 10 Years," those two grow up just like other kids do. The only reason they never grow up in the main series is just like the reason why Ash Ketchem never physically grows up: the artist does not allow it. |
* According to the OVA, "Stranger in 10 Years," those two grow up just like other kids do. The only reason they never grow up in the main series is just like the reason why Ash Ketchem never physically grows up: the artist does not allow it. |
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== [[The Other Wiki]] refuses to call this show by its most well-known title. That...still...bugs me. Freaking idiots. == |
== [[The Other Wiki]] refuses to call this show by its most well-known title. That...still...bugs me. Freaking idiots. == |
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* [[wikipedia:Wikipedia:Manual of Style (anime- and manga-related articles)#Article names and disambiguation|The rule they use]] is "the official English title," and the franchise has never been released in English as "Detective Conan." The Robert E. Howard estate being silly isn't their problem, and they need a definite rule. It's also why they use the names ''[[Sailor Moon]]'' and ''[[Abenobashi Mahou Shoutengai |
* [[wikipedia:Wikipedia:Manual of Style (anime- and manga-related articles)#Article names and disambiguation|The rule they use]] is "the official English title," and the franchise has never been released in English as "Detective Conan." The Robert E. Howard estate being silly isn't their problem, and they need a definite rule. It's also why they use the names ''[[Sailor Moon]]'' and ''[[Abenobashi Mahou Shoutengai|Magical Shopping Arcade Abenobashi]]''. Funnily enough, the articles on the various versions of the ''[[Ah! My Goddess]]'' franchise have different titles. |
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** Actually, the rule was introduced after the fact to justify the article name. Originally, the rule that applied was in the Japan manual of style, which said that [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style_(Japan-related_articles)&diff=220485781&oldid=220195651 names are romanized according to the most common usage], not according to the official name, up until June 20 2008. Likewise, the guideline in the anime style guide [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style_(anime-_and_manga-related_articles)&diff=227975712&oldid=222166128 did not require that the official name be used if some other name was more widely recognized.] |
** Actually, the rule was introduced after the fact to justify the article name. Originally, the rule that applied was in the Japan manual of style, which said that [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style_(Japan-related_articles)&diff=220485781&oldid=220195651 names are romanized according to the most common usage], not according to the official name, up until June 20 2008. Likewise, the guideline in the anime style guide [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style_(anime-_and_manga-related_articles)&diff=227975712&oldid=222166128 did not require that the official name be used if some other name was more widely recognized.] |
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*** I have defended the ''Case Closed'' name since 2007; even though my fandom was pre-Case Closed and was not even in an English-speaking country. Wikipedia, ofter all, is supposed to be for the ''random'' English speaker, not us. Judging by the number of bookstores carrying ''Case Closed'' manga in the US, I have to say your random English speaker would be more likely to have heard of ''Case Closed'' than ''Detective Conan''. (Of course, if WP changed their definition of ''English speaker'', I may change my stand.) |
*** I have defended the ''Case Closed'' name since 2007; even though my fandom was pre-Case Closed and was not even in an English-speaking country. Wikipedia, ofter all, is supposed to be for the ''random'' English speaker, not us. Judging by the number of bookstores carrying ''Case Closed'' manga in the US, I have to say your random English speaker would be more likely to have heard of ''Case Closed'' than ''Detective Conan''. (Of course, if WP changed their definition of ''English speaker'', I may change my stand.) |
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*** I agree, but in this specific case, wouldn't it look incredibly weird at home, if Conan used a recharger on his glasses? Not to mention that it would seem suspicious if he could see perfectly without his glasses. Maybe Kogoro would buy that it's a toy Agasa gave him, but Ran? |
*** I agree, but in this specific case, wouldn't it look incredibly weird at home, if Conan used a recharger on his glasses? Not to mention that it would seem suspicious if he could see perfectly without his glasses. Maybe Kogoro would buy that it's a toy Agasa gave him, but Ran? |
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== Conan always seems to ''stumble'' upon crimes as they happen. Alternatively, everywhere he goes, somebody dies. It's as bad as ''[[Murder She Wrote]]''. == |
== Conan always seems to ''stumble'' upon crimes as they happen. Alternatively, everywhere he goes, somebody dies. It's as bad as ''[[Murder, She Wrote]]''. == |
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* Not much they can do about that. It's a genre convention. |
* Not much they can do about that. It's a genre convention. |
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** Yeah, but at least most other fictional detectives become involved in a crime ''after'' it's committed. |
** Yeah, but at least most other fictional detectives become involved in a crime ''after'' it's committed. |
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== Why haven't Kogoro's parenting skills been questioned yet? == |
== Why haven't Kogoro's parenting skills been questioned yet? == |
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* I mean, the guy not only yells at, but he also throws and even punches Conan. I know that sort of thing [[Crayon Shin |
* I mean, the guy not only yells at, but he also throws and even punches Conan. I know that sort of thing [[Crayon Shin-chan|happens]] in [[One Piece|anime]] a lot, but Kogoro's reasons for doing it are [[Disproportionate Retribution|really petty]]. |
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** As someone who visits Japan on a yearly basis, I know first-hand that abuse of that kind--especially to boys--isn't nearly as frowned upon as one might think. This consitutes as normal, if not a little excessive, behavior. |
** As someone who visits Japan on a yearly basis, I know first-hand that abuse of that kind--especially to boys--isn't nearly as frowned upon as one might think. This consitutes as normal, if not a little excessive, behavior. |
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*** Now if he were doing it to ''Ran'', people would look at him funny. Not only is abuse okay if it's female on male, but it's ''also'' okay if it's male on male, too. Even in America, people are more likely to sound an alarm if the victim is a ''female''. |
*** Now if he were doing it to ''Ran'', people would look at him funny. Not only is abuse okay if it's female on male, but it's ''also'' okay if it's male on male, too. Even in America, people are more likely to sound an alarm if the victim is a ''female''. |
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