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== There is a specific trigger to APTX-4869's regression effect ==
== There is a specific trigger to APTX-4869's regression effect ==
* The two confirmed shrink-ees and one possible all possess one thing in common: They are highly intelligent and near-or-outright masters in their chosen fields. This leads me to believe that the regression effect of APTX-4869 is not a [[Million to One Chance]], but has a specific trigger, most likely some genetic trait or something else DNA-based that also creates high level intellect in those who possess it. If someone with this trait takes the drug, they won't die. Of course, this leads to yet another possibility...
* The two confirmed shrink-ees and one possible all possess one thing in common: They are highly intelligent and near-or-outright masters in their chosen fields. This leads me to believe that the regression effect of APTX-4869 is not a [[Million-to-One Chance]], but has a specific trigger, most likely some genetic trait or something else DNA-based that also creates high level intellect in those who possess it. If someone with this trait takes the drug, they won't die. Of course, this leads to yet another possibility...


== APTX-4869, or at least one of its predecessors, was crafted specifically to benefit Vermouth ==
== APTX-4869, or at least one of its predecessors, was crafted specifically to benefit Vermouth ==
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* Which, may I say, would be made of awesome.
* Which, may I say, would be made of awesome.


== APTX-4869 was derived from the same stone that the Arrows from [[Jo Jos Bizarre Adventure (Manga)|Jo Jos Bizarre Adventure]] were made from ==
== APTX-4869 was derived from the same stone that the Arrows from [[Jo Jo's Bizarre Adventure (Manga)|Jo Jos Bizarre Adventure]] were made from ==
Great boon if you can handle the effect, near-instant death if not...does this ever sound familiar. Although this troper wouldn't be surprised if the reason Shinichi keeps running into murder and theft cases is because a semi-dormant Stand keeps steering him towards loci of rancor and envy...
Great boon if you can handle the effect, near-instant death if not...does this ever sound familiar. Although this troper wouldn't be surprised if the reason Shinichi keeps running into murder and theft cases is because a semi-dormant Stand keeps steering him towards loci of rancor and envy...


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This also can relate to what Kazuha is thinking when she first sees Shinichi. She thinks, ''So this guy really exists?'' Please note that she is best friends with a detective who has knowledge of Kudo, and has mentioned him repeatedly. But since she never heard of him, besides (assuming) after Volume 13 of the manga, Shinichi has an inflated ego.
This also can relate to what Kazuha is thinking when she first sees Shinichi. She thinks, ''So this guy really exists?'' Please note that she is best friends with a detective who has knowledge of Kudo, and has mentioned him repeatedly. But since she never heard of him, besides (assuming) after Volume 13 of the manga, Shinichi has an inflated ego.
* Shinichi ''does'' have an inflated ego but he does show the ability of a good meitantei. Shinichi has been called to other areas in the past too - movie 1, that manga case with the village that hates him - it's their lack of concern towards that [[Wake Up Go to School Save The World|pesky thing called school]] that is a concern. (Though Shinichi at least has an excuse during the main time period.)
* Shinichi ''does'' have an inflated ego but he does show the ability of a good meitantei. Shinichi has been called to other areas in the past too - movie 1, that manga case with the village that hates him - it's their lack of concern towards that [[Wake Up, Go to School, Save The World|pesky thing called school]] that is a concern. (Though Shinichi at least has an excuse during the main time period.)
* This may have been discounted in a recent chapter where the culprit or an attempted murder held a grudge against Shinichi, and subsequently had collected an impressive number of newspaper articles with said detective's solved cases enough to cover ''an entire wall''.
* This may have been discounted in a recent chapter where the culprit or an attempted murder held a grudge against Shinichi, and subsequently had collected an impressive number of newspaper articles with said detective's solved cases enough to cover ''an entire wall''.
** Well, do you know any real life detective? Even if there is actually a genius detective like Shinichi in real life, no one would have a clue about him. This career doesn't have a large popularity, so it's understandable that only people in legal and crime force will know about Shinichi and Hattori.
** Well, do you know any real life detective? Even if there is actually a genius detective like Shinichi in real life, no one would have a clue about him. This career doesn't have a large popularity, so it's understandable that only people in legal and crime force will know about Shinichi and Hattori.
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This is in allusion to my earlier point about Shiho (and Conan) being blood relations of Vermouth's to some measure. Also, consider that although we haven't yet heard their finish, the last we hear of the cassettes left to Shiho by her parents sounds like the stock build-up to a revelation that she's actually adopted. Adding in the possibility that a genetic trigger is necessary to keep you from being killed by APTX-4869, it becomes very likely that Shiho was "rescued" from her actual parents by the adoptive ones; she may well have been at risk of being treated like a guinea pig or something, to see how much genetic drift can remain before APTX-4869 winds up killing you. Vermouth is an obvious candidate for this mother. However, if Subaru really is the head of the Black Organization, the possibility emerges that he's Vermouth's ''[[Older Than They Look|brother]]'', and also that Shiho might instead be ''his'' biological daughter.
This is in allusion to my earlier point about Shiho (and Conan) being blood relations of Vermouth's to some measure. Also, consider that although we haven't yet heard their finish, the last we hear of the cassettes left to Shiho by her parents sounds like the stock build-up to a revelation that she's actually adopted. Adding in the possibility that a genetic trigger is necessary to keep you from being killed by APTX-4869, it becomes very likely that Shiho was "rescued" from her actual parents by the adoptive ones; she may well have been at risk of being treated like a guinea pig or something, to see how much genetic drift can remain before APTX-4869 winds up killing you. Vermouth is an obvious candidate for this mother. However, if Subaru really is the head of the Black Organization, the possibility emerges that he's Vermouth's ''[[Older Than They Look|brother]]'', and also that Shiho might instead be ''his'' biological daughter.


== There will be [[One Hundred and Eight|108]] volumes of the manga. ==
== There will be [[108]] volumes of the manga. ==
* Prepare for waiting for a long time.
* Prepare for waiting for a long time.