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Although it's best to keep in mind, as with the case of an [[Ascended Demon]], you may have a few of the [[Fallen Angel]] version of these running around, which is bad news for the heroes. They might also suffer from [[The Gods Must Be Lazy]] as well, or be [[Jerkass Gods]] for the really unhelpful ones. |
Although it's best to keep in mind, as with the case of an [[Ascended Demon]], you may have a few of the [[Fallen Angel]] version of these running around, which is bad news for the heroes. They might also suffer from [[The Gods Must Be Lazy]] as well, or be [[Jerkass Gods]] for the really unhelpful ones. |
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See the most famous examples in [[ |
See the most famous examples in [[Archangel Michael]], [[Archangel Gabriel]], [[Archangel Raphael]], and (possibly) the [[Fallen Angel]] version in [[Satan|Archangel Lucifer]]. |
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See also [[Our Angels Are Different]], [[Our Gods Are Greater]], [[Council of Angels]], [[Celestial Bureaucracy]], [[Divine Ranks]], [[Fantasy Pantheon]] and it's [[Inverted Trope]], [[Demon Lords and Archdevils]]. |
See also [[Our Angels Are Different]], [[Our Gods Are Greater]], [[Council of Angels]], [[Celestial Bureaucracy]], [[Divine Ranks]], [[Fantasy Pantheon]] and it's [[Inverted Trope]], [[Demon Lords and Archdevils]]. |
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Also of note, this trope is to [[Big Good]]/[[God]] as [[Demon Lords and Archdevils]] is to [[Big Bad]]/[[Satan]]. |
Also of note, this trope is to [[Big Good]]/[[God]] as [[Demon Lords and Archdevils]] is to [[Big Bad]]/[[Satan]]. |
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== Comic Books == |
== Comic Books == |
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* The angels in ''[[Shade the Changing Man]]'' are smug, brute-force manipulators who don't even bother attempting to appeal to morality or necessity. They brought Shade back to life but also made him crazier by taking a piece of his mind to control him with. They resurrected Kathy and withheld the [[Mind Rape]] memories so intense they ''killed'' her, then extorted her with them to make her keep Shade under control. They're such [[Jerkass Gods]] that they make [[Deal With the Devil|a bargain with an]] [[Faux Affably Evil]] Devil seem sane by comparison. |
* The angels in ''[[Shade the Changing Man]]'' are smug, brute-force manipulators who don't even bother attempting to appeal to morality or necessity. They brought Shade back to life but also made him crazier by taking a piece of his mind to control him with. They resurrected Kathy and withheld the [[Mind Rape]] memories so intense they ''killed'' her, then extorted her with them to make her keep Shade under control. They're such [[Jerkass Gods]] that they make [[Deal With the Devil|a bargain with an]] [[Faux Affably Evil]] Devil seem sane by comparison. |
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* The Black Hosts and the Archangels they work for are good guys in ''[[Ghost Rider]]'' comics. They rarely show up and even more rarely do they do anything, [[Deus Ex Machina|unless there is no other way to stop]] a [[Downer Ending]] or if they have [[Fallen Angel]], but those who fall are considered "former". Some of the arch angels get away with a lot of [[Jerkass]] activity without losing their rank but most of them seem to be pretty nice. Archangels are also responsible for appointing the angels of death. |
* The Black Hosts and the Archangels they work for are good guys in ''[[Ghost Rider]]'' comics. They rarely show up and even more rarely do they do anything, [[Deus Ex Machina|unless there is no other way to stop]] a [[Downer Ending]] or if they have [[Fallen Angel]], but those who fall are considered "former". Some of the arch angels get away with a lot of [[Jerkass]] activity without losing their rank but most of them seem to be pretty nice. Archangels are also responsible for appointing the angels of death. |
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** Angels are also affiliated with the Asuras([[Spell My Name With an S|probably meant ahura]]), embodiments of goodness which stand guard at the gates of heaven and the spirits of vengeance, the ones most likely to appear and act on panel. |
** Angels are also affiliated with the Asuras([[Spell My Name With an "S"|probably meant ahura]]), embodiments of goodness which stand guard at the gates of heaven and the spirits of vengeance, the ones most likely to appear and act on panel. |
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== Live Action TV == |
== Live Action TV == |
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* Archangels have showed up in ''[[Supernatural (TV)|Supernatural]]'', particularly in the last few seasons. |
* Archangels have showed up in ''[[Supernatural (TV)|Supernatural]]'', particularly in the last few seasons. |
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** It's implied that they have a full celestial hierarchy; Castiel works for Zachariah and Anna refers to having been his superior. |
** It's implied that they have a full celestial hierarchy; Castiel works for Zachariah and Anna refers to having been his superior. |
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*** Not quite a [[Have You Seen My God|''full'']] hierarchy. |
*** Not quite a [[Have You Seen My God?|''full'']] hierarchy. |
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* ''[[Series/Eternal Law|Eternal Law]] has angels in disguise - mostly - as lawyers. |
* ''[[Series/Eternal Law|Eternal Law]] has angels in disguise - mostly - as lawyers. |
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* The Archangels in ''[[In Nomine (Tabletop Game)|In Nomine]]''. They are much more powerful than regular angels, but are Word-bound (forced to operate in accordance with their descriptive Word) and thus limited in thought and action. |
* The Archangels in ''[[In Nomine (Tabletop Game)|In Nomine]]''. They are much more powerful than regular angels, but are Word-bound (forced to operate in accordance with their descriptive Word) and thus limited in thought and action. |
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* The Angels are the Imperators of Heaven in ''[[Nobilis (Tabletop Game)|Nobilis]]''- though in a case of [[Light Is Not Good|Light Is Not (Exactly) Good]], they are ''just'' above all else. The schism that resulted in the [[Fallen Angels]] existing (at least in third edition) was that some of the angels loved everyone, even the corrupt... and for this, they were cast into Hell. |
* The Angels are the Imperators of Heaven in ''[[Nobilis (Tabletop Game)|Nobilis]]''- though in a case of [[Light Is Not Good|Light Is Not (Exactly) Good]], they are ''just'' above all else. The schism that resulted in the [[Fallen Angels]] existing (at least in third edition) was that some of the angels loved everyone, even the corrupt... and for this, they were cast into Hell. |
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* Considering the [[Space Marines]] of ''[[Warhammer 40000]]'' are often considered to be the [[God |
* Considering the [[Space Marines]] of ''[[Warhammer 40000]]'' are often considered to be the [[God-Emperor]]'s [[Badass|Angels of Death]], it would logically dictate that his 20 [[Physical God]] sons that were the genetic templates for the [[Space Marine]] Legions would be his [[Celestial Paragons and Archangels|Archangels]] (and It's especially evident with Sanguinius, Primarch of the Blood Angels, who happens to be a [[Winged Humanoid]]). Of course, once [[Cosmic Horror|Chaos]] had come about in the [[Horus Heresy]], half of them went the other [[Demon Lords and Archdevils|route]]... |
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** If the [[Space Marine|Space Marines]] are considered to be [[Our Angels Are Different|Angels]], then the Living Saints can be considered to be the Emperor's actual Archangels. |
** If the [[Space Marine|Space Marines]] are considered to be [[Our Angels Are Different|Angels]], then the Living Saints can be considered to be the Emperor's actual Archangels. |
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* ''[[Promethean: The Created]]'' features ''qashmallim'', who are [[Our Angels Are Different|not-quite-but-maybe angels]] serving [[In Mysterious Ways|a cosmic Principle]]. There are arch-''qashmal'' as well, and when they show up, something big happens... [[Subverted Trope|though not necessarily nice]]. The book lists an example of an entire city convening to build an edifice before leaping off of it, and one adventure features {{spoiler|an arch-''qashmal'' about to irradiate all of Detroit unless the Prometheans make a sacrifice}}. |
* ''[[Promethean: The Created]]'' features ''qashmallim'', who are [[Our Angels Are Different|not-quite-but-maybe angels]] serving [[In Mysterious Ways|a cosmic Principle]]. There are arch-''qashmal'' as well, and when they show up, something big happens... [[Subverted Trope|though not necessarily nice]]. The book lists an example of an entire city convening to build an edifice before leaping off of it, and one adventure features {{spoiler|an arch-''qashmal'' about to irradiate all of Detroit unless the Prometheans make a sacrifice}}. |