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*** Shinigami couldnt kill a Code user, it will "make them stop living" but then they would come back to life, the only reason Charles and Marianne died is because they were written out of existence.
*** Shinigami couldnt kill a Code user, it will "make them stop living" but then they would come back to life, the only reason Charles and Marianne died is because they were written out of existence.
*** Which brings up the question of how many years a Shinigami would get for death noting a code user.
*** Which brings up the question of how many years a Shinigami would get for death noting a code user.
*** However many years that person had before trasnferring their code and dying. That or they'd get the Abbadon treatment ''a la [[Torchwood (TV)|Torchwood]]'' and die of and overdose.
*** However many years that person had before trasnferring their code and dying. That or they'd get the Abbadon treatment ''a la [[Torchwood]]'' and die of and overdose.
* Didn't Lelouch ever think of trying to get around the 'one Geass per person' restriction by giving a command like "obey all future orders given to you by Lelouch Lamperouge or Zero"?
* Didn't Lelouch ever think of trying to get around the 'one Geass per person' restriction by giving a command like "obey all future orders given to you by Lelouch Lamperouge or Zero"?
** {{spoiler|Yes. The reason he didn't do at first is most likely that he thought that would have been just a bit too evil.}}
** {{spoiler|Yes. The reason he didn't do at first is most likely that he thought that would have been just a bit too evil.}}
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** There does seem to be a strange stop gap between commands that are impossible to carry out and the power of Geass in general. Despite Lelouch repeatedly geass-ing her to live or not die, Shirley for the most part ignored the geass completely.
** There does seem to be a strange stop gap between commands that are impossible to carry out and the power of Geass in general. Despite Lelouch repeatedly geass-ing her to live or not die, Shirley for the most part ignored the geass completely.
*** He was too late. Shirley was too weak to help herself, and Geass can't overcome biological limitations. If she was less severely injured, the Geass would probably compel her to seek medical help.
*** He was too late. Shirley was too weak to help herself, and Geass can't overcome biological limitations. If she was less severely injured, the Geass would probably compel her to seek medical help.
* If C.C. could really survive being chainsawed apart by Mao, [[Nightmare Fuel|which part would she regenerate from]]? The one that includes the head? What would happen to immortals if they were disintegrated/atomized? (The same could be asked about [[Torchwood (TV)|Jack Harkness]], but let's leave him out of this for now.)
* If C.C. could really survive being chainsawed apart by Mao, [[Nightmare Fuel|which part would she regenerate from]]? The one that includes the head? What would happen to immortals if they were disintegrated/atomized? (The same could be asked about [[Torchwood|Jack Harkness]], but let's leave him out of this for now.)
** She would probably regenerate from the head (well im just guessing because thats where her code is), and their is a good change that Jack probably dies after living a really long time (at one point he said that people used to call him the face of boa when he was younger and that he was continuing to age), not sure where he regenerates from though, either head or heart
** She would probably regenerate from the head (well im just guessing because thats where her code is), and their is a good change that Jack probably dies after living a really long time (at one point he said that people used to call him the face of boa when he was younger and that he was continuing to age), not sure where he regenerates from though, either head or heart
** Well, she DID survive getting beheaded with a guillotine, so one could assume she starts from the head. Although it'd be entertaining to see that go down, starfish style.
** Well, she DID survive getting beheaded with a guillotine, so one could assume she starts from the head. Although it'd be entertaining to see that go down, starfish style.
** Probably it's more like a magnet or possibly even a liquidization thing. You know, like how [[Hellsing|Alucard]] regenerates?
** Probably it's more like a magnet or possibly even a liquidization thing. You know, like how [[Hellsing|Alucard]] regenerates?
** Maybe her limbs would individually pull themselves back together, like [[Star Wars Clone Wars|Durge]].
** Maybe her limbs would individually pull themselves back together, like [[Star Wars: Clone Wars|Durge]].
** As for the disintegration thing, V.V. survived being stuck inside the exploding Siegfried and seemed to still be in once piece, though we can't know for sure if he actually ''was'' disintegrated or not, since it wasn't shown.
** As for the disintegration thing, V.V. survived being stuck inside the exploding Siegfried and seemed to still be in once piece, though we can't know for sure if he actually ''was'' disintegrated or not, since it wasn't shown.
*** Code bearers are not immune to dismemberment. This troper can't recall where exactly, but he read once that after episode 25 of the first season, C.C.'s was eventually crushed by ocean pressure and she floated back up to the surface as a mess of body parts, where she eventually regenerated. The creators didn't show that because of how much [[Nightmare Fuel]] that would be.
*** Code bearers are not immune to dismemberment. This troper can't recall where exactly, but he read once that after episode 25 of the first season, C.C.'s was eventually crushed by ocean pressure and she floated back up to the surface as a mess of body parts, where she eventually regenerated. The creators didn't show that because of how much [[Nightmare Fuel]] that would be.
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* What would happen if someone, say, [[Gurren Lagann|Kamina]], was wearing reflective sunglasses, and Lelouch tried to use the eye on him? Assuming Leoluch hadn't Geass'd himself beforehand?
* What would happen if someone, say, [[Gurren Lagann|Kamina]], was wearing reflective sunglasses, and Lelouch tried to use the eye on him? Assuming Leoluch hadn't Geass'd himself beforehand?
** [[Hilarity Ensues]]. Even more so, depending on the angle of the glasses and their curve.
** [[Hilarity Ensues]]. Even more so, depending on the angle of the glasses and their curve.
** Let's just say, reflective sunglasses play heavily into the "Lelouch vs. [[Artemis Fowl (Literature)|Artemis Fowl]]" crossover in this troper's head. Lucky Artemis is wearing his anti-mesmer gear.
** Let's just say, reflective sunglasses play heavily into the "Lelouch vs. [[Artemis Fowl]]" crossover in this troper's head. Lucky Artemis is wearing his anti-mesmer gear.
* Do immortals like C.C. ''need'' to eat? Do they have the rest of normal human physiological needs?
* Do immortals like C.C. ''need'' to eat? Do they have the rest of normal human physiological needs?
** Most likely not. CC just seems to REALLY enjoy pizza, and bugging Lelouch for more.
** Most likely not. CC just seems to REALLY enjoy pizza, and bugging Lelouch for more.
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** Probably the same thing tha happened to Euphemia. He resists for a bit then succumbs.
** Probably the same thing tha happened to Euphemia. He resists for a bit then succumbs.
** Problem is Vimes' men are more [[Genre Savvy]] than that. By the time he started issuing genocide orders, Carrot, Aunga and Detrius would have him bound, gagged, and halfway to the Unseen University. Ponder Stibbons would take a great interest but have no insight whatsoever, Ridicully would do something funny, Colon would make a poor attempt as the bad cop in the "Good Cop Bad Cop" routine. Then Ventari would confront Lelouch (wearing a blindfold, obviously), while Lenoard of Quirm would send Nobby and Colon in his "[[Time Machine|Go Backwards In Time And Hopefully Not Kill Your Own Grandfather Device]]", where the two would specatualarly fail to change the past. Then some other stuff would happen and... um, never mind. Got off track there for a moment.
** Problem is Vimes' men are more [[Genre Savvy]] than that. By the time he started issuing genocide orders, Carrot, Aunga and Detrius would have him bound, gagged, and halfway to the Unseen University. Ponder Stibbons would take a great interest but have no insight whatsoever, Ridicully would do something funny, Colon would make a poor attempt as the bad cop in the "Good Cop Bad Cop" routine. Then Ventari would confront Lelouch (wearing a blindfold, obviously), while Lenoard of Quirm would send Nobby and Colon in his "[[Time Machine|Go Backwards In Time And Hopefully Not Kill Your Own Grandfather Device]]", where the two would specatualarly fail to change the past. Then some other stuff would happen and... um, never mind. Got off track there for a moment.
** Personally, I'd rather see Lelouch and ''Carrot'' meet up, mainly for the contrast in philosophies between the long-lost heir to the throne who believes "Personal isn't the same as important", and the long-lost prince whose personal priorities have [[Spanner in The Works|repeatedly screwed over his own rebellion]].
** Personally, I'd rather see Lelouch and ''Carrot'' meet up, mainly for the contrast in philosophies between the long-lost heir to the throne who believes "Personal isn't the same as important", and the long-lost prince whose personal priorities have [[Spanner in the Works|repeatedly screwed over his own rebellion]].
** The Geass is based upon light, as shown by Lelouch being able to geass himself via mirror. Light moves slower on the discworld, so it's effect would be either mitigated or lesened. Also, the power of belief is VERY strong on the disc, and Vimes is believed to be un-mind-controllable and incorruptible. So, because of these and the arguments above, I don't think Lelouch could geass Vimes to go against his principle.
** The Geass is based upon light, as shown by Lelouch being able to geass himself via mirror. Light moves slower on the discworld, so it's effect would be either mitigated or lesened. Also, the power of belief is VERY strong on the disc, and Vimes is believed to be un-mind-controllable and incorruptible. So, because of these and the arguments above, I don't think Lelouch could geass Vimes to go against his principle.
* With Orange's Geass Cancel thing, what happens to commands given by Lelouch? Obviously, someone would stop acting under the order. But what about orders that were complete? I have a problem with the fact that Shirley regains memories she was told to forget, because she already forgot. They should be gone. Does the cancel "heal" the memories?
* With Orange's Geass Cancel thing, what happens to commands given by Lelouch? Obviously, someone would stop acting under the order. But what about orders that were complete? I have a problem with the fact that Shirley regains memories she was told to forget, because she already forgot. They should be gone. Does the cancel "heal" the memories?
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