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[http://www.conservapedia.com Conservapedia] is a mirror project of [[Wikipedia|that other Wiki]], specifically the one aimed at correcting Wikipedia's supposed liberal bias. It is perhaps most (in)famous for its attempt to rewrite [[The Bible (Literature)|The Bible]] from a conservative perspective(yes, really). As several people have pointed out, a quick look at Conservapedia will show that it's much less about conservatism and Christianity, than of the power-crazed televangelist fundamentalism. And, for the last few years or so, about hating [[Barack Obama]].
[http://www.conservapedia.com Conservapedia] is a mirror project of [[Wikipedia|that other Wiki]], specifically the one aimed at correcting Wikipedia's supposed liberal bias. It is perhaps most (in)famous for its attempt to rewrite [[The Bible (Literature)|The Bible]] from a conservative perspective(yes, really). As several people have pointed out, a quick look at Conservapedia will show that it's much less about conservatism and Christianity, than of the power-crazed televangelist fundamentalism. And, for the last few years or so, about hating [[Barack Obama]].


You can never be sure which portions were written by people who meant it to be taken seriously. The editors on Conservapedia are chiefly made up of three types of people: trolls adding in offensive but [[Poes Law|believable]] vandalism; trolls harassing other trolls; and the site's creator himself, Andrew Schlafly.
You can never be sure which portions were written by people who meant it to be taken seriously. The editors on Conservapedia are chiefly made up of three types of people: trolls adding in offensive but [[Poe's Law|believable]] vandalism; trolls harassing other trolls; and the site's creator himself, Andrew Schlafly.


Conservapedia began its existence as a help for Schlafly's homeschool students, and it still contains his lectures. The latest attempts at lectures only spanned a few classes rather than an entire course.
Conservapedia began its existence as a help for Schlafly's homeschool students, and it still contains his lectures. The latest attempts at lectures only spanned a few classes rather than an entire course.
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* [[Analogy Backfire]]: [http://conservapedia.com/Essay:_An_atheist_trying_to_stop_Christianity This picture], depicting a lone fireman in front of a blazing inferno as "An atheist trying to stop Christianity". So, we should root against the fireman? We should hope the fire burns everything down? Christianity's spread is destructive like fire? Atheists are the good guys? This was [[Lampshaded]] in the talk page.
* [[Analogy Backfire]]: [http://conservapedia.com/Essay:_An_atheist_trying_to_stop_Christianity This picture], depicting a lone fireman in front of a blazing inferno as "An atheist trying to stop Christianity". So, we should root against the fireman? We should hope the fire burns everything down? Christianity's spread is destructive like fire? Atheists are the good guys? This was [[Lampshaded]] in the talk page.
* [[Arson Murder and Jaywalking]]: The essay on "professor values." Professors' crimes include murder, genocide, and grade inflation.
* [[Arson, Murder, and Jaywalking]]: The essay on "professor values." Professors' crimes include murder, genocide, and grade inflation.
* [[Artistic License Physics]]:
* [[Artistic License Physics]]:
** The ''theory of relativity'' is wrong because it contradicts the instantaneous nature of Jesus's miracles - He would not be restricted to working at the speed of light<ref>Coming back from the dead is, of course, entirely consistent with modern science.</ref>. Naturally, this is a liberal conspiracy.
** The ''theory of relativity'' is wrong because it contradicts the instantaneous nature of Jesus's miracles - He would not be restricted to working at the speed of light<ref>Coming back from the dead is, of course, entirely consistent with modern science.</ref>. Naturally, this is a liberal conspiracy.
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** "The Trustworthy Wiki."
** "The Trustworthy Wiki."
** One of the site's favourite ways to describe itself is "correctly biased"
** One of the site's favourite ways to describe itself is "correctly biased"
* [[But You Screw One Goat]]: Apparently, related to [http://conservapedia.com/Atheism_and_bestiality atheism.]
* [[But You Screw One Goat!]]: Apparently, related to [http://conservapedia.com/Atheism_and_bestiality atheism.]
* [[Catch Phrase]]: You're clueless. Open your mind. Liberal [insert negative quality]. Godspeed.
* [[Catch Phrase]]: You're clueless. Open your mind. Liberal [insert negative quality]. Godspeed.
* [[Cheese Eating Surrender Monkeys]]: The article on France circles around this a lot, even in its most (surprisingly) positive portrayals of France its still gets painted this with such gems as:
* [[Cheese-Eating Surrender Monkeys]]: The article on France circles around this a lot, even in its most (surprisingly) positive portrayals of France its still gets painted this with such gems as:
{{quote| ''France opposed the use of force in Iraq in March 2003 and did not join the U.S.-led coalition that liberated the country from the dictatorial rule of Saddam Hussein with whom they, like other countries had close economic ties, especially in the supply of nuclear technology.''}}
{{quote| ''France opposed the use of force in Iraq in March 2003 and did not join the U.S.-led coalition that liberated the country from the dictatorial rule of Saddam Hussein with whom they, like other countries had close economic ties, especially in the supply of nuclear technology.''}}
* [[Clone Degeneration]]: When the [[Obviously Evil|Wikipedia]] article on [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Militant_atheism&oldid=453045131 "militant atheism"] was split for lack of an adequate source linking "state atheism" with "new atheism", it [http://conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Militant_atheism&diff=prev&oldid=922868 wasn't killed off for real]. You can watch as the [http://conservapedia.com/Militant_atheism clone degenerates little by little] (Which isn't to say that it was a good article to begin with. Three guesses why.)
* [[Clone Degeneration]]: When the [[Obviously Evil|Wikipedia]] article on [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Militant_atheism&oldid=453045131 "militant atheism"] was split for lack of an adequate source linking "state atheism" with "new atheism", it [http://conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Militant_atheism&diff=prev&oldid=922868 wasn't killed off for real]. You can watch as the [http://conservapedia.com/Militant_atheism clone degenerates little by little] (Which isn't to say that it was a good article to begin with. Three guesses why.)
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** Some pages have been continually locked to avoid vandalism for months.
** Some pages have been continually locked to avoid vandalism for months.
** Some pages have been continually locked to avoid "vandalism" for ''months''. <!-- Yes, this is listed twice. Note the meta language. -->
** Some pages have been continually locked to avoid "vandalism" for ''months''. <!-- Yes, this is listed twice. Note the meta language. -->
** Even if pages don't get locked, expect a quick revert and block if you dare question the admins or post anything remotely resembling facts (at least, the ones that don't concur with the stated goal and viewpoint of Conservapedia) on any page concerned with politics, sexuality or [[Arson Murder and Jaywalking|adaptations of Nickelodeon series]].
** Even if pages don't get locked, expect a quick revert and block if you dare question the admins or post anything remotely resembling facts (at least, the ones that don't concur with the stated goal and viewpoint of Conservapedia) on any page concerned with politics, sexuality or [[Arson, Murder, and Jaywalking|adaptations of Nickelodeon series]].
** If something embarrassing is edited into a page a sysop will delete the page and recreate it to clear the edit history and thus proof of the revision. [[Rational Wiki (Wiki)|Rational Wiki]] calls this burning the evidence.
** If something embarrassing is edited into a page a sysop will delete the page and recreate it to clear the edit history and thus proof of the revision. [[Rational Wiki (Wiki)|Rational Wiki]] calls this burning the evidence.
* [[Even Evil Has Standards]]:
* [[Even Evil Has Standards]]:
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* [[Freudian Slip]]: Homoschooling.
* [[Freudian Slip]]: Homoschooling.
* [[Freudian Excuse]]: Try growing up with [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phyllis_Schlafly Phyllis Schlafly] as your mother ''without'' being screwed-up.
* [[Freudian Excuse]]: Try growing up with [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phyllis_Schlafly Phyllis Schlafly] as your mother ''without'' being screwed-up.
* [[The Fundamentalist]]: Pretty much every serious contributor to the website. If, indeed, there ''are'' any [[Poes Law|serious contributors...]]
* [[The Fundamentalist]]: Pretty much every serious contributor to the website. If, indeed, there ''are'' any [[Poe's Law|serious contributors...]]
* [[God Never Said That]]: or so they claim in the Conservative Bible Project. The first two passages they decided were "liberal" additions to the Bible are the whold stoning the prostitute section, especially "let he who is without sin cast the first stone" (because God would never say that) and "forgive them Father, for they know not what they do" (because some of them ''did'' know what they were doing).
* [[God Never Said That]]: or so they claim in the Conservative Bible Project. The first two passages they decided were "liberal" additions to the Bible are the whold stoning the prostitute section, especially "let he who is without sin cast the first stone" (because God would never say that) and "forgive them Father, for they know not what they do" (because some of them ''did'' know what they were doing).
* [[Godwins Law]]: one of the best examples ''ever''. "[[Barack Obama|Obama]] has spoken out against cruelty to animals...[[Hitler Ate Sugar|Hitler opposed cruelty to animals]]...I think this link needs to be investigated further". [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Talk:Barack_Hussein_Obama&curid=9967&diff=685687&oldid=683793 Link]: At least it's "cited", if not a jump in logic. It's also [http://www.conservapedia.com/Talk:Barack_Hussein_Obama/archive8#Animal_rights archived] as well.
* [[Godwin's Law]]: one of the best examples ''ever''. "[[Barack Obama|Obama]] has spoken out against cruelty to animals...[[Hitler Ate Sugar|Hitler opposed cruelty to animals]]...I think this link needs to be investigated further". [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Talk:Barack_Hussein_Obama&curid=9967&diff=685687&oldid=683793 Link]: At least it's "cited", if not a jump in logic. It's also [http://www.conservapedia.com/Talk:Barack_Hussein_Obama/archive8#Animal_rights archived] as well.
** [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Template:Mainpageright&diff=768758&oldid=768726 Bonus] - invoking [[Godwins Law|Godwin's Law]] to criticize those who invoke Godwin's Law.
** [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Template:Mainpageright&diff=768758&oldid=768726 Bonus] - invoking [[Godwin's Law]] to criticize those who invoke Godwin's Law.
** Guess whose picture graces [http://www.conservapedia.com/Evolution the article on evolution] (as of this posting)?
** Guess whose picture graces [http://www.conservapedia.com/Evolution the article on evolution] (as of this posting)?
** Hitler, Stalin, Michelle Obama, and a caricature of Darwin's head photoshopped on a chimp. All they need in there is Mao and Kim Jong-il.
** Hitler, Stalin, Michelle Obama, and a caricature of Darwin's head photoshopped on a chimp. All they need in there is Mao and Kim Jong-il.
** In the past, the evolution article actually began with a large picture of Hitler, something which was nicknamed "The Godwin Singularity".
** In the past, the evolution article actually began with a large picture of Hitler, something which was nicknamed "The Godwin Singularity".
* [[He Who Fights Monsters]]: Arguably a minor case, since their claimed point that Wikipedia was largely dominated by the political leanings of its administrators- in spite of attempts to check said potential undue influence- was at least debatable. Of course, their brilliant "plan" to counter this was to set up a different wiki, fill it with the worst possible Far-Right clichés and invocations of [[Poes Law|Poe's Law]], and throw out virtually all the quality controls. Likely averted in that the founders never really intended the site to be anything else.
* [[He Who Fights Monsters]]: Arguably a minor case, since their claimed point that Wikipedia was largely dominated by the political leanings of its administrators- in spite of attempts to check said potential undue influence- was at least debatable. Of course, their brilliant "plan" to counter this was to set up a different wiki, fill it with the worst possible Far-Right clichés and invocations of [[Poe's Law]], and throw out virtually all the quality controls. Likely averted in that the founders never really intended the site to be anything else.
* [[High Turnover Rate]]
* [[High Turnover Rate]]
* [[Hippie Jesus]]: Inverted; one of the apparent goals of the Bible Retranslation Project is to eliminate all hints of hippiedom from Jesus as he appears in the New Testament.
* [[Hippie Jesus]]: Inverted; one of the apparent goals of the Bible Retranslation Project is to eliminate all hints of hippiedom from Jesus as he appears in the New Testament.
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** The unwritten rule that you have to use your real first name and last initial as your username - which is only suggested on the signup page - is strongly enforced by users ASchlafly (first initial and last name) and TK (only initials).
** The unwritten rule that you have to use your real first name and last initial as your username - which is only suggested on the signup page - is strongly enforced by users ASchlafly (first initial and last name) and TK (only initials).
* [[Hollywood Atheist]]: According to [http://conservapedia.com/Causes_of_atheism causes of atheism] there are no other type of atheist.
* [[Hollywood Atheist]]: According to [http://conservapedia.com/Causes_of_atheism causes of atheism] there are no other type of atheist.
* [[Idiot Ball]]: In the infamous [http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Lenski_affair Lenski affair] Schlafly decided to pick a fight with a microbiology professor over the results of a twenty-year scientific study which provided quite convincing evidence of the proof of evolution. Apparently, Schlafly didn't understand the article announcing the results of the study (if he even read it at all), and proceeded to run the ball into his own endzone and [[What an Idiot|claim victory]].
* [[Idiot Ball]]: In the infamous [http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Lenski_affair Lenski affair] Schlafly decided to pick a fight with a microbiology professor over the results of a twenty-year scientific study which provided quite convincing evidence of the proof of evolution. Apparently, Schlafly didn't understand the article announcing the results of the study (if he even read it at all), and proceeded to run the ball into his own endzone and [[What an Idiot!|claim victory]].
* [[Insane Troll Logic]]: The damned site ''[[It Runs On Nonsensoleum|runs on Insane Troll Logic]]''! It eats it for breakfast!
* [[Insane Troll Logic]]: The damned site ''[[It Runs On Nonsensoleum|runs on Insane Troll Logic]]''! It eats it for breakfast!
{{quote| "...when the Republican Party (and a few southern Democrats) just wanted to maintain the African-Americans' right to have the choice of forced segregation."}}
{{quote| "...when the Republican Party (and a few southern Democrats) just wanted to maintain the African-Americans' right to have the choice of forced segregation."}}
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** Also, see "Wiki Vandal" on the YMMV page for the FBI Incident.
** Also, see "Wiki Vandal" on the YMMV page for the FBI Incident.
** More recently, User:Conservative declared he would debate any atheist, but only if they paid $17,000 to his choice of Christian charity (he later [[Moving the Goalposts|upped the amount to $20,000]]). When one [[Rational Wiki (Wiki)|Rational Wiki]] user took him up on his offer (matching the conditions), he suddenly remembered that he would be "[[Blatant Lies|extremely busy these next 90 days]] [[Up to Eleven|and probably for the next few years or so]]." Oddly enough, this didn't prevent him from being active on Conservapedia in the 90 days after this...
** More recently, User:Conservative declared he would debate any atheist, but only if they paid $17,000 to his choice of Christian charity (he later [[Moving the Goalposts|upped the amount to $20,000]]). When one [[Rational Wiki (Wiki)|Rational Wiki]] user took him up on his offer (matching the conditions), he suddenly remembered that he would be "[[Blatant Lies|extremely busy these next 90 days]] [[Up to Eleven|and probably for the next few years or so]]." Oddly enough, this didn't prevent him from being active on Conservapedia in the 90 days after this...
** Recently, Conservapedia started an essay demanding [[Penn and Teller|Penn Jilette]] debate them. After seeing this request to debate a celebrity, Rational Wiki posted that User:Conservative still owes them a debate.
** Recently, Conservapedia started an essay demanding [[Penn & Teller|Penn Jilette]] debate them. After seeing this request to debate a celebrity, Rational Wiki posted that User:Conservative still owes them a debate.
* [[Lampshade Hanging]]: In an article about [http://conservapedia.com/Faithless "faithlessness"], one of the alleged signs to a person being without faith is the "Need for Proof of God." This seems logical - most Christians believe that Faith does not require proof for them to "know" that God exists. However, when you read the actual text, [[Does This Remind You of Anything|it highly resembles Conservapedia]] and its users' redefinition of scientific facts to fit God into the scheme of things more smoothly.
* [[Lampshade Hanging]]: In an article about [http://conservapedia.com/Faithless "faithlessness"], one of the alleged signs to a person being without faith is the "Need for Proof of God." This seems logical - most Christians believe that Faith does not require proof for them to "know" that God exists. However, when you read the actual text, [[Does This Remind You of Anything?|it highly resembles Conservapedia]] and its users' redefinition of scientific facts to fit God into the scheme of things more smoothly.
{{quote| Many times one will try to reinforce their Faith by stating that there is undeniable proof of God. In reality, one is possibly unsure about one's Faith and is trying to make "logical" reasons to why their Faith is right. This is a dangerous part of faithlessness because the person is in denial about their disbelief in God. They will try to connect science to religion and find some trivial detail that somehow "proves" the existence of God. What they fail to realize is that one does not need proof for God: if one had Faith, they could believe in God despite all of the alleged "scientific" evidence to suggest otherwise.}}
{{quote| Many times one will try to reinforce their Faith by stating that there is undeniable proof of God. In reality, one is possibly unsure about one's Faith and is trying to make "logical" reasons to why their Faith is right. This is a dangerous part of faithlessness because the person is in denial about their disbelief in God. They will try to connect science to religion and find some trivial detail that somehow "proves" the existence of God. What they fail to realize is that one does not need proof for God: if one had Faith, they could believe in God despite all of the alleged "scientific" evidence to suggest otherwise.}}
* [[Logic Bomb]]: A pet project of the wiki is the [http://www.conservapedia.com/Secularized_Language "secularized language" page] (a massive example of [[Personal Dictionary]]). One of the "secularized words" is "secular." A good citizen should substitute "pagan" every time.
* [[Logic Bomb]]: A pet project of the wiki is the [http://www.conservapedia.com/Secularized_Language "secularized language" page] (a massive example of [[Personal Dictionary]]). One of the "secularized words" is "secular." A good citizen should substitute "pagan" every time.
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** That's not too surprising with regards to metal because it tends to be a "conservative" genre compared to other forms of rock. Not that the lyrics themselves are conservative, but many of the singers and musicians are, although they mostly keep quiet about their views ([[Alice Cooper (Music)|Alice Cooper]] is one such "agnostic" conservative). Even [[Slayer (Music)|Slayer]], who were accused of being Nazi sympathizers after the 1986 release of their song "Angel of Death," admitted that they were right-wing (but anti-racist).
** That's not too surprising with regards to metal because it tends to be a "conservative" genre compared to other forms of rock. Not that the lyrics themselves are conservative, but many of the singers and musicians are, although they mostly keep quiet about their views ([[Alice Cooper (Music)|Alice Cooper]] is one such "agnostic" conservative). Even [[Slayer (Music)|Slayer]], who were accused of being Nazi sympathizers after the 1986 release of their song "Angel of Death," admitted that they were right-wing (but anti-racist).
* [[Politically Motivated Teacher]]: Schlafly is a teacher who greatly encourages his students to use this site for research. This is homeschool teaching - Schlafly claims to have taught over 100 teenagers as well as his own daughter. Many states, in pursuit of the conservative vote, will allow anyone with children to homeschool the result and there's nothing to stop them meeting up in each others' houses to share the load. This is his "teacher" credential.
* [[Politically Motivated Teacher]]: Schlafly is a teacher who greatly encourages his students to use this site for research. This is homeschool teaching - Schlafly claims to have taught over 100 teenagers as well as his own daughter. Many states, in pursuit of the conservative vote, will allow anyone with children to homeschool the result and there's nothing to stop them meeting up in each others' houses to share the load. This is his "teacher" credential.
* [[Poes Law]]:
* [[Poe's Law]]:
** Many articles appear as if they could have been written by staff members of ''[[The Colbert Report]]'', often because many of the top people at any given moment are likely [[Double Reverse Quadruple Agent|deep-cover parodists]].
** Many articles appear as if they could have been written by staff members of ''[[The Colbert Report]]'', often because many of the top people at any given moment are likely [[Double Reverse Quadruple Agent|deep-cover parodists]].
** [[Rational Wiki (Wiki)|Rational Wiki]] once speculated that Conservapedia was an example of a Poe Paradox--a fundamentalist group believing that new "true believers" are parodists.
** [[Rational Wiki (Wiki)|Rational Wiki]] once speculated that Conservapedia was an example of a Poe Paradox--a fundamentalist group believing that new "true believers" are parodists.
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** User:Conservative has apparently never learned how to use the "Preview" button, if he's even noticed it. He'll make 50 edits adding/correcting minor things, even changing the size of a picture 1 pixel-width at a time until it's ''just right'', then likely as not memory-hole the whole thing so that it never existed.
** User:Conservative has apparently never learned how to use the "Preview" button, if he's even noticed it. He'll make 50 edits adding/correcting minor things, even changing the size of a picture 1 pixel-width at a time until it's ''just right'', then likely as not memory-hole the whole thing so that it never existed.
** It's speculated on [[Rational Wiki (Wiki)|Rational Wiki]] that he believes that making the little tweaks to picture width and such would help boost the page for [[Google]] searches.
** It's speculated on [[Rational Wiki (Wiki)|Rational Wiki]] that he believes that making the little tweaks to picture width and such would help boost the page for [[Google]] searches.
* [[Spin Off]]: [[Fun With Acronyms|A Storehouse of Knowledge]], started by Philip J Rayment and consisting of several users that TK drove away.
* [[Spin-Off]]: [[Fun With Acronyms|A Storehouse of Knowledge]], started by Philip J Rayment and consisting of several users that TK drove away.
* [[The Starscream]]: The user TK. [[Rational Wiki (Wiki)|Rational Wiki]] has piles of evidence that he's a troll.
* [[The Starscream]]: The user TK. [[Rational Wiki (Wiki)|Rational Wiki]] has piles of evidence that he's a troll.
* [[Stealth Parody]]: You could be forgiven for thinking it was this. Of course, a good portion of it ''is'' thanks to the sizable number of [[Troll|trolls]] there. A known [http://www.conservapedia.com/Dihydrogen_monoxide parody article] gets [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Talk:Dihydrogen_monoxide&oldid=768846 tagged as nonsense], even though it was written by an admin. I guess you have to stick with stealth humor here.
* [[Stealth Parody]]: You could be forgiven for thinking it was this. Of course, a good portion of it ''is'' thanks to the sizable number of [[Troll|trolls]] there. A known [http://www.conservapedia.com/Dihydrogen_monoxide parody article] gets [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Talk:Dihydrogen_monoxide&oldid=768846 tagged as nonsense], even though it was written by an admin. I guess you have to stick with stealth humor here.
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** In a perversely ironic fashion, [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=User_talk:Aschlafly&curid=108781&diff=848939&oldid=848047 asking for information] about TK's death [[Kick the Dog|will result in]] [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Special:Log&type=block&user=&page=User:Willminator&year=&month=-1 a permaban].
** In a perversely ironic fashion, [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=User_talk:Aschlafly&curid=108781&diff=848939&oldid=848047 asking for information] about TK's death [[Kick the Dog|will result in]] [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Special:Log&type=block&user=&page=User:Willminator&year=&month=-1 a permaban].
** Recently, Rob has more or less been declared this, after saying Conservapedia needs to have a sense of community.
** Recently, Rob has more or less been declared this, after saying Conservapedia needs to have a sense of community.
* [[What Do You Mean Its Not Heinous]]: [[Kevin Smith (Creator)|Kevin Smith]]'s movie ''[[Dogma]]'' is a "liberal" film (and thus, especially since it deals with Christianity, [[This Is Unforgivable|an unforgivable abomination]]) because it depicts God as a woman.
* [[What Do You Mean It's Not Heinous?]]: [[Kevin Smith (Creator)|Kevin Smith]]'s movie ''[[Dogma]]'' is a "liberal" film (and thus, especially since it deals with Christianity, [[This Is Unforgivable!|an unforgivable abomination]]) because it depicts God as a woman.
* [[What Do You Mean Its Not Symbolic]]:
* [[What Do You Mean Its Not Symbolic]]:
** Soccer represents socialism! The USA sucking at it shows how great a non-socialist nation we are!
** Soccer represents socialism! The USA sucking at it shows how great a non-socialist nation we are!
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