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** Also done in [[Fullmetal Alchemist (anime)|the 2003 anime version]]. If Dante wasn't so afraid of {{spoiler|creating the philosopher's stone herself,}} she would have had one and probably many more, without resorting to such a risky plan nor need to {{spoiler|create the homunculi}}.
*** Of course she was a bit justified considering what happened to {{spoiler|Hohenheim}}.
* In ''[[Guilty Crown]]'', if Souta and some other F-ranked Void users hadn't tried to break into a hospital to get more vaccine for everyone, Shuu, Ayase, Hare and Tsugumi wouldn't have had to chase them and all of them wouldn't have been attacked by the Anti Bodies, which would have meant that {{spoiler|Hare wouldn't have died}}.
* ''[[Paranoia Agent]]'': Sagi Tsukiko {{spoiler|created Shonen Bat}} only to avoid her strict father's scolding for losing Maromi. but Maniwa revealed that {{spoiler|her father always knew the truth: He only went to search for Shonen Bat to avoid the fact that he was so strict and her own daughter feared him, so he lied to the police and took a bat and pretended to search for Shonen Bat to show Tsukiko he cared for her}}.
 
 
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* The [[Tales of the Otori]] series ends with a fairly spectacular disaster that was considerably worsened by {{spoiler|Takeo not telling Kaede that he had gotten another woman pregnant when he left her and thought they would never see each other again.}} It is worth noting that there were ''sixteen years'' during which this information could have been imparted, but every time he considered telling her he kept putting it off. He does, at least, fully acknowledge how stupid he's been, but by then it's too late to solve the problem.
* In the ''[[Wars of Light and Shadow]]'', the Koriathain Order had been searching for the Waystone of the Koriathain, an enormous [[Crystal Ball]] that could amplify their power immensely, for five centuries. Upon learning that Sethvir of the Fellowship had it, they try breaking into his tower and seizing it by force. After being violently repelled by the wards, they are forced to ask him for the return of the Waystone when he returns from a business trip. At which point he mentions that they had asked for the return of the stone (Or assistance in finding it) at any point in the 500 years since they had misplaced it, they would have given it back without any fuss.
 
 
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* Grendor the Rhynoc, the [[Big Bad]] of ''[[Spyro the Dragon|Spyro: Season of Ice]]'', captures all the fairies in an attempt to reverse the spell he accidently put on himself. When Spyro defeats him and frees the last fairy, she flat out asks Grendor why he didn't just ask for help, then cures him with a wave of her wand.
* A major theme of ''[[Rule of Rose]]''. Much of the horrible events could have been avoided if people had communicated with each other properly, or listened to the other party better. Most notably Martha and the police, and Jennifer and {{spoiler|Wendy.}}
* In ''[[Neverwinter Nights 2]]'', you can speak these words to a warlock {{spoiler|who just murdered his own granddaughter, one of your allies, in a fit of rage.}} The warlock in question is trying to achieve the same thing you are, reforging the [[Sword of Plot Advancement|Sword of Gith]] so that the [[Big Bad|King of Shadows]] can be defeated, but he's spent the past two chapters trying to kill anyone who might own a shard of the sword, including you.
* In ''[[Chrono Trigger]]'', {{spoiler|Magus' goal is to summon and destroy Lavos, the [[Eldritch Abomination]] who he blames for corrupting his mother and tearing his family apart. In the process, he becomes leader of an army of magical beings waging war against humanity. The heroes, who also want Lavos destroyed, break into Magus' fortress and screw up the summoning ritual because they've been led to believe (quite reasonably, given the circumstances) that Magus created Lavos as a weapon. He becomes an optional party member at a later point in the game, if you manage to settle your differences with him.}}
* In the final case of [[Ace Attorney]] ''Trials & Tribulations'', Godot admits to [[Phoenix Wright]] that {{spoiler|if he had warned Wright about the plot to kill Maya from the get-go, they would have avoided all of the drama, to say nothing of the death of Maya's mother. He even admits that he cared more about proving himself to his dead lover, Wright's mentor and Maya's sister Mia, than he did about Maya herself. He basically set up the whole scheme as a way to make up for sleeping through her death due to being in a coma.}}
* [[Batman: Arkham City]] has a confrontation between [[Batman]] and Mister Freeze that was totally unnecessary, and caused largely by the latter trying to ''order'' Bats to do something he would probably do willingly if ''asked'', and the former deciding to jeopardise a potential alliance and risk his own life rather than just swallow his pride for a short while. However, since many people consider the ensuing confrontation to be one of the best [[Boss Fight]]s in video game history, [[Rule of Cool|their stupidity can be forgiven.]]
* In ''[[Assassin's Creed Revelations]]'', Tarik Barleti, the captain of the Sultan's bodyguards, agrees to smuggle weapons on behalf of the Templars so he can learn the location of their hideout and ambush them. The Sultan's grandson Suleiman, unaware of his intentions, suspects him of betraying the Ottoman Empire and orders Ezio to assassinate him. Tarik laments his own hubris with his final words, and Suleiman, upon learning the truth, expresses regret that he was so secretive and chose a terrible way of doing a good thing.
* The ''[[Mass Effect]]'' 'verse has a centuries-long war being fought between [[Woobie Species|the]] [[Subverted Trope|quarians]] and [[AI Is a Crapshoot|the]] [[Subverted Trope|geth]], because the quarians saw the geth becoming self-aware and tried to destroy them, but lost the war and got driven off their planet. It turns out that {{spoiler|the geth only fought back in self-defence and allowed the quarians to flee when they could have easily wiped them out, actually want peace with the quarians, have been preserving the eco-system of the quarian world and would have happily given them their planet back if they had asked.}} Instead, the widespread (though still understandable) bigotry of the quarians in general, and the blind hatred of one [[General Ripper|individual quarian]] will get one of the species completely wiped out unless [[Player Character|Shepard]] does literally everything right in his/her interactions with both species.
** Actually the fear and hatred is mostly justified. Nearly every encounter with self-aware [[A Is]] results in the wholesale slaughter of every organic nearby. The first game has a DLC quest where the player shuts down a rogue AI after it killed everyone in the base upon attaining self-awareness. In the second game, the AI on-board your ship demonstrates the power of an unshackled AI in control of a ship by jettisoning enemy boarders by disabling the safely measures on the airlocks. In the third game, a DLC character comments that his own species fought a war against rogue [[A Is]] but far bloodier and disturbing results.
*** It's justified for everybody reacting to the geth afterwards (as all that's known about them is that they're a scary Ai race that wrecked the quarian species), but the original Morning War is explainable only by the quarians being ''epic assholes''. When you are using grenade launchers on unarmed geth whose reaction to being hit in the face with grenades is to plaintively ask you why you're doing that, and who stand there and die without even attempting physical resistance, you cannot plausibly claim to be acting in fear of a violent AI revolution. It's a miracle that it took the geth as long as it did before they ''finally'' picked up some guns and went "OK, that's ''it''. We ''tried'' being nice, literally to the point of almost committing racial suicide by angry quarian, but you leave us '''no choice'''."
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* In ''[[The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim]]'', the Civil War was started when Ulfric Stormcloak killed High King Torygg in a duel, which was seen by those opposed to him as murder since he used the [[Language of Magic|Thu'um]]. However, according to certain characters, not only was the duel somewhat one-sided (considering that Torygg was a young man with limited martial training while Ulfric was a war veteran in his prime), Torygg actually looked up to Ulfric and would likely have declared Skyrim's independence at his urging. However, in Ulfric's mind, he needed to send a strong message to the Empire.
** Another uneven factor in the duel was that Ulfric had access to Dragon Shouts (which are traditionally a power that is not even supposed to be used for conquest, except by the Dragonborn who has a special exemption from the gods). Also, Ulfric had a very simple reason for killing Torygg -- Ulfric doesn't just want Skyrim free of the Empire, he wants Skyrim free of the Empire and ruled by Ulfric as its High King. Which requires the current incumbent to die.
 
 
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* [[Played for Laughs]] in ''[[Yet Another Fantasy Gamer Comic]]'' [http://yafgc.net/?id=574comic/0574-not-the-blood-of-coritanus/ #574].
* ''[[8-Bit Theater|Eight Bit Theater]]'' example: After traveling through a poison swamp, poison tundra, and plains of poison, the Light Warriors finally return to the entrance of [[A Wizard Did It|Sarda]]'s cave. [http://www.nuklearpower.com/2006/04/20/episode-685-the-final-straw/ He immediately teleports them inside.]
{{quote|'''Black Mage:''' Wait one ''damn'' second. Could you have done that at ''any'' time?
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* The fictional [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CY_HGl6W2U Shark Pool] trailer is based around this. There's a shark in the pool. They have no idea how to stop the deaths.
{{quote|'''Girl:''' I can't believe she's dead. How many more people is this thing going to kill?
'''[[Only Sane Man|Guy]]:''' What? Uh, none. Just don't [[Too Dumb To Live|go in the pool]]. }}