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Because his name starts with "[[Verbal Tic|Nya]]".
Because his name starts with "[[Verbal Tic|Nya]]".
* Wait a minute, is that a Japanese word up there? No wonder...
* Wait a minute, is that a Japanese word up there? No wonder...
* [[Nyarko San (Light Novel)|Confirmed?]]
* [[Haiyore! Nyaruko-san|Confirmed?]]


== [[The DCU]], The [[Marvel Universe]], The [[Mortal Kombat]] [[Multiverse]]/[[The Verse|universe]], The [[Whoniverse]], [[Transformers Generation 1|the]] [[Transformers Animated|various]] [[Transformers]] [[Transformers Armada|conti]][[Transformers Prime|nu]][[Transformers War for Cybertron|it]][[Transformers (Film)|ies]] and of course the [[Cthulhu Mythos]] ([[Serial Escalation|not to mention the near endless continuities]] that are either part of or [[Epileptic Trees|Thought to be connected to]] it) share a common [[Mega Crossover|multiverse]] or possibly some kind of [[The Angry Video Game Nerd (Web Video)|"Ultraverse" or "Megaverse"]] that [[More Than Infinite|contains]] [[Department of Redundancy Department|multiple]] [[More Than Infinite|multiverses]]. ==
== [[The DCU]], The [[Marvel Universe]], The [[Mortal Kombat]] [[Multiverse]]/[[The Verse|universe]], The [[Whoniverse]], [[Transformers Generation 1|the]] [[Transformers Animated|various]] [[Transformers]] [[Transformers Armada|conti]][[Transformers Prime|nu]][[Transformers: War for Cybertron|it]][[Transformers (film)|ies]] and of course the [[Cthulhu Mythos]] ([[Serial Escalation|not to mention the near endless continuities]] that are either part of or [[Epileptic Trees|Thought to be connected to]] it) share a common [[Mega Crossover|multiverse]] or possibly some kind of [[The Angry Video Game Nerd|"Ultraverse" or "Megaverse"]] that [[More Than Infinite|contains]] [[Department of Redundancy Department|multiple]] [[More Than Infinite|multiverses]]. ==


== ''Homo sapiens sapiens'' is the result of Old Ones (or one of their servant races) [[Alien Impregnation|impregnating]] hominids in the distant past ==
== ''Homo sapiens sapiens'' is the result of Old Ones (or one of their servant races) [[Alien Impregnation|impregnating]] hominids in the distant past ==
This explains why [[Humans Are Cthulhu]]. Those who physically appeared more like [[Eldritch Abomination|EldritchAbominations]] than non-threatening hairless apes were likely put to death at birth.
This explains why [[Humans Are Cthulhu]]. Those who physically appeared more like [[Eldritch Abomination|EldritchAbominations]] than non-threatening hairless apes were likely put to death at birth.
* If the above is true, then this troper is inclined to suspect Nyarly of being the one responsible since it'd certainly explain [[Humans Are Bastards|a few things]]. Plus the identity of the Million Favoured Ones has never actually been revealed beyond them being Nyarlathotep's progeny and them being us would be a pretty good [[Tomato in The Mirror]] moment.
* If the above is true, then this troper is inclined to suspect Nyarly of being the one responsible since it'd certainly explain [[Humans Are Bastards|a few things]]. Plus the identity of the Million Favoured Ones has never actually been revealed beyond them being Nyarlathotep's progeny and them being us would be a pretty good [[Tomato in the Mirror]] moment.


== The Cthulhu Mythos is not a single universe, but an entire multiverse. ==
== The Cthulhu Mythos is not a single universe, but an entire multiverse. ==
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== Ephraim Waite transgendered himself. ==
== Ephraim Waite transgendered himself. ==
Anyone who's [[Transsexual|trans]] can tell you how ''incredibly'' uncomfortable it is to be in a body that's the wrong sex. This would explain "Asenath's" infamous comment about women's brains being inferior - Ephraim just couldn't figure out what was wrong here. Although considering Asenath was a [[Half-Human Hybrid]] that would eventually [[The Shadow Over Innsmouth (Literature)|mutate]], he was gonna eventually end up with a body that was both the wrong sex ''and'' the wrong damn ''species''. Kinda makes you wonder how well he thought this out.
Anyone who's [[Transsexual|trans]] can tell you how ''incredibly'' uncomfortable it is to be in a body that's the wrong sex. This would explain "Asenath's" infamous comment about women's brains being inferior - Ephraim just couldn't figure out what was wrong here. Although considering Asenath was a [[Half-Human Hybrid]] that would eventually [[The Shadow Over Innsmouth|mutate]], he was gonna eventually end up with a body that was both the wrong sex ''and'' the wrong damn ''species''. Kinda makes you wonder how well he thought this out.
* He didn't have options available. He needed someone of high intelligence and weak will, and his daughter was the only one available.
* He didn't have options available. He needed someone of high intelligence and weak will, and his daughter was the only one available.


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* ''Cthulhu does not sleep. He waits.''
* ''Cthulhu does not sleep. He waits.''
'''''Ia! Ia! Chucthulhu fhtagn!'''''
'''''Ia! Ia! Chucthulhu fhtagn!'''''
* [[That Guy With the Glasses|CTHUUUUUULLLLHUUUU FFFHTAAAAAGGGGGGNNNN!! Whoops, I mean, UH-CHUCK-UH-NORRRISSSSSSSSSS!!]]
* [[That Guy With The Glasses|CTHUUUUUULLLLHUUUU FFFHTAAAAAGGGGGGNNNN!! Whoops, I mean, UH-CHUCK-UH-NORRRISSSSSSSSSS!!]]
* [[Sarcasm Mode|''yes''. It makes perfect sense]]
* [[Sarcasm Mode|''yes''. It makes perfect sense]]
* Meaning... [[Did You Just Punch Out Cthulhu?|Bruce Lee was even more badass than we thought.]]
* Meaning... [[Did You Just Punch Out Cthulhu?|Bruce Lee was even more badass than we thought.]]
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** That we know of.
** That we know of.


== Herbert West, [[Re Animator]]'s Re-Agent is somehow related to the Elder Things. ==
== Herbert West, [[Re-Animator]]'s Re-Agent is somehow related to the Elder Things. ==
The Elder Things have the ability to come back to life, much like Herbert West tried to do for humans. It may be the West somehow got ahold of specimens of them & attempted to adapt their vital fluids for human use, or perhaps the Elder Things' ability to revive is artificial, created using a perfected version of the Re-Agent, based on the same scientific principles which West simply discovered independantly.
The Elder Things have the ability to come back to life, much like Herbert West tried to do for humans. It may be the West somehow got ahold of specimens of them & attempted to adapt their vital fluids for human use, or perhaps the Elder Things' ability to revive is artificial, created using a perfected version of the Re-Agent, based on the same scientific principles which West simply discovered independantly.


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* Plus he wasn't ''that'' socially inept. He had a lot of friends and, finances permitting, went to visit them all the time. One of the reasons he stayed in New York as long as he did was because he had friends there.
* Plus he wasn't ''that'' socially inept. He had a lot of friends and, finances permitting, went to visit them all the time. One of the reasons he stayed in New York as long as he did was because he had friends there.


== The Narrator of "Herbert West - Reanimator" is West's [[Genius: The Transgression (Tabletop Game)|Beholden]]. ==
== The Narrator of "Herbert West - Reanimator" is West's [[Genius: The Transgression|Beholden]]. ==
The Narrator is basically West's all-purpose [[The Igor|Igor]], and after medical school, seems to be the only person who "gets" what West is trying to do at all. As West Transgresses more and more, he becomes more and more erratic, eventually more or less self-destructing at the hands of the reanimated marvels he abandoned. The narrator seems like an unusually faithful sidekick for one working with a crazy man, as well as a little too understanding. He can see why and how West does what he does, if not achieve the same results himself. West could certainly get another, better assistant, but is bound to this one particular person.
The Narrator is basically West's all-purpose [[The Igor|Igor]], and after medical school, seems to be the only person who "gets" what West is trying to do at all. As West Transgresses more and more, he becomes more and more erratic, eventually more or less self-destructing at the hands of the reanimated marvels he abandoned. The narrator seems like an unusually faithful sidekick for one working with a crazy man, as well as a little too understanding. He can see why and how West does what he does, if not achieve the same results himself. West could certainly get another, better assistant, but is bound to this one particular person.


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== All other Cosmic Horrors exist because of humanity. ==
== All other Cosmic Horrors exist because of humanity. ==
[[Humans Are Cthulhu|Humanity itself is the top dog Cosmic Horror]]. The only reason the others seem so powerful is because we locked our powers away and made ourselves forget. All the other ones want us back, so they are using cultists as a means to an end.
[[Humans Are Cthulhu|Humanity itself is the top dog Cosmic Horror]]. The only reason the others seem so powerful is because we locked our powers away and made ourselves forget. All the other ones want us back, so they are using cultists as a means to an end.
* Whoa, so we are like [[Haruhi Suzumiya (Light Novel)|Haruhi Suzumiya]]?
* Whoa, so we are like [[Haruhi Suzumiya]]?


== Lavinia Whateley was a victim of tentacle rape. ==
== Lavinia Whateley was a victim of tentacle rape. ==
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== H.P. Lovecraft was the son of a [[Cosmic Horror]] ==
== H.P. Lovecraft was the son of a [[Cosmic Horror]] ==
''[[The Dunwich Horror (Literature)|The Dunwich Horror]]'' was semi-autobiographical. It was also the reason for his racism-he was just barely able to avoid disgust and fear towards human beings who looked like him, but was unable to do so towards anyone different. His dislike of seafood was due to his unknowing identification with sea creatures. His stories were mixes of fact and fiction.
''[[The Dunwich Horror]]'' was semi-autobiographical. It was also the reason for his racism-he was just barely able to avoid disgust and fear towards human beings who looked like him, but was unable to do so towards anyone different. His dislike of seafood was due to his unknowing identification with sea creatures. His stories were mixes of fact and fiction.


== Nyarlathotep is the real mind behind the [[My Immortal]] fan fiction as an attempt to drive the entire internet insane. ==
== Nyarlathotep is the real mind behind the [[My Immortal]] fan fiction as an attempt to drive the entire internet insane. ==
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Okay, this might be more of a Poison Oak Epileptic Tree, but Lovecraft is actually just acting some of his nihilism so that he can make and write his stories better and more memorable. You know, fully understanding and comprehending a fictional universe by acting them as though they are real experiences. He was just living his life as though it was a work of art. Well, if he was truly that of a nihilist, then the probability of him [[Heroic BSOD|collapsing]] [[Go Mad From the Revelation|from the revelation]] increases. After all, a meaningless story is fun but easily disposable, but a philosophic story that questions our existence is more memorable and interesting. Remember how the anime ''[[Neon Genesis Evangelion]]'' became famous due to its philosophic mindscrewyness?
Okay, this might be more of a Poison Oak Epileptic Tree, but Lovecraft is actually just acting some of his nihilism so that he can make and write his stories better and more memorable. You know, fully understanding and comprehending a fictional universe by acting them as though they are real experiences. He was just living his life as though it was a work of art. Well, if he was truly that of a nihilist, then the probability of him [[Heroic BSOD|collapsing]] [[Go Mad From the Revelation|from the revelation]] increases. After all, a meaningless story is fun but easily disposable, but a philosophic story that questions our existence is more memorable and interesting. Remember how the anime ''[[Neon Genesis Evangelion]]'' became famous due to its philosophic mindscrewyness?
** I cant tell if this was a joke or not because if youve read his letters its clear he never was a Nihilistic [[Niezsche Wannabe]] its also clearly he wasnt a nihilist he had philosophical beliefs he held to firmly, the only remarks he ever really made that implied he was one was when he was suffering severe depression after the death of his mother.
** I cant tell if this was a joke or not because if youve read his letters its clear he never was a Nihilistic [[Niezsche Wannabe]] its also clearly he wasnt a nihilist he had philosophical beliefs he held to firmly, the only remarks he ever really made that implied he was one was when he was suffering severe depression after the death of his mother.
== Danforth from ''[[At the Mountains of Madness (Literature)|At the Mountains of Madness]]'' didn't really go crazy. ==
== Danforth from ''[[At the Mountains of Madness]]'' didn't really go crazy. ==
He was killed by a Shoggoth and replaced. His apparent insanity is due to the creature not figuring out how to imitate human behavior convincingly. His repetitive babbling is the Shoggoth repeating things it heard the real Danforth say. After all, the ancient tablets told of the Shoggoths disguising themselves as Elder Things, why not people?
He was killed by a Shoggoth and replaced. His apparent insanity is due to the creature not figuring out how to imitate human behavior convincingly. His repetitive babbling is the Shoggoth repeating things it heard the real Danforth say. After all, the ancient tablets told of the Shoggoths disguising themselves as Elder Things, why not people?
* Exactly where in the novel it is mentioned that the Shoggoths could disguise themselves as Elder Things? They are way, way too large for such a feat, and descriptions are only given to their imitation of their masters' voices and writing, nothing about their physical forms.
* Exactly where in the novel it is mentioned that the Shoggoths could disguise themselves as Elder Things? They are way, way too large for such a feat, and descriptions are only given to their imitation of their masters' voices and writing, nothing about their physical forms.
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Shadowgirls, webcomics that makes big use of [[Cthulhu Mythos]], has recently finished short story revealing that Lovecraft was a member of secret society of writers, who were gathering the knowledge about all kind of supernatural like aliens, vampires, werewolves or eldritch abominations and publishing them as fiction. If they would reveal their knowledge as truth, nobody would believe them, but if they claimed to made it up, their knowledge would survive in collective human memory as tropes - we know that stake and sunlight kills a vampire and silver bullet is fatal to the werewolf, because we read about it in books. Lovecraft himself has passed informations about how to deal with at last some of creatures his characters encounters - The Dream-Quest Of Unknown Kadath describes how to survive encounters with many creatures inhabiting Dream World and even how to get saved from Nyerlaotheph. His stories where monstrosities cannot be stopped serves as a warning for people so then can recognize early signs of those creatures when they see them and run.
Shadowgirls, webcomics that makes big use of [[Cthulhu Mythos]], has recently finished short story revealing that Lovecraft was a member of secret society of writers, who were gathering the knowledge about all kind of supernatural like aliens, vampires, werewolves or eldritch abominations and publishing them as fiction. If they would reveal their knowledge as truth, nobody would believe them, but if they claimed to made it up, their knowledge would survive in collective human memory as tropes - we know that stake and sunlight kills a vampire and silver bullet is fatal to the werewolf, because we read about it in books. Lovecraft himself has passed informations about how to deal with at last some of creatures his characters encounters - The Dream-Quest Of Unknown Kadath describes how to survive encounters with many creatures inhabiting Dream World and even how to get saved from Nyerlaotheph. His stories where monstrosities cannot be stopped serves as a warning for people so then can recognize early signs of those creatures when they see them and run.


== The things in the tomb in "The Statement of Randolph Carter" were [[My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic (Animation)|parasprites]]. ==
== The things in the tomb in "The Statement of Randolph Carter" were [[My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic|parasprites]]. ==
"Curse these hellish things--legions--My God!"
"Curse these hellish things--legions--My God!"


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Here's the reasons why:
Here's the reasons why:
{{quote| The Elder Things/Old Ones of Antarctica created the Shoggoths as servitors- who rebelled.<br />
{{quote| The Elder Things/Old Ones of Antarctica created the Shoggoths as servitors- who rebelled.<br />
In regards to Deep Ones or other followers of Cthulhu, the Esoteric Order of Dagon use Shoggoths for some of their plans. (''[[The Shadow Over Innsmouth (Literature)|The Shadow Over Innsmouth]]'')<br />
In regards to Deep Ones or other followers of Cthulhu, the Esoteric Order of Dagon use Shoggoths for some of their plans. (''[[The Shadow Over Innsmouth]]'')<br />
In regards to the Outer Gods/Great Old Ones, the cultists who worship Shub-Niggurath in Chesuncook, Maine have a whole pit of Shoggoths. ("The Thing on the Doorstep")<br />
In regards to the Outer Gods/Great Old Ones, the cultists who worship Shub-Niggurath in Chesuncook, Maine have a whole pit of Shoggoths. ("The Thing on the Doorstep")<br />
What about the Dreamlands? Didn't Abdul Alhazred say that Shoggoths only existed in the dreams of druggies? }}
What about the Dreamlands? Didn't Abdul Alhazred say that Shoggoths only existed in the dreams of druggies? }}
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Well some one had to say it. They are probably a future form of the timelords. They have mastered time travel. I can imagine, after the events of the end of time in doctor who. The time lords,were dying out on the time locked time war, so in order to survive they found a way to trasnfer their minds, towards time and space into other lifeforms, not mention they have a lot of knowlege about alien spcies acroos the universe inclunding humanity.
Well some one had to say it. They are probably a future form of the timelords. They have mastered time travel. I can imagine, after the events of the end of time in doctor who. The time lords,were dying out on the time locked time war, so in order to survive they found a way to trasnfer their minds, towards time and space into other lifeforms, not mention they have a lot of knowlege about alien spcies acroos the universe inclunding humanity.


== The [[The Shadow Over Innsmouth (Literature)|Deep Ones and their half-human spawn]] are [[Non-Human Undead|zombies]]! ==
== The [[The Shadow Over Innsmouth|Deep Ones and their half-human spawn]] are [[Non-Human Undead|zombies]]! ==
Lovecraft and subsequent writers explicitly portray them as having a nauseating fish odor. Actually, it's only [http://indianapublicmedia.org/amomentofscience/why-fish-smells-more-than-meat/ DEAD fish] that smell. Which means . . . "[[Ninja Pirate Zombie Robot|Iä! Iä! BRRAAAIIINNNS!]]"
Lovecraft and subsequent writers explicitly portray them as having a nauseating fish odor. Actually, it's only [http://indianapublicmedia.org/amomentofscience/why-fish-smells-more-than-meat/ DEAD fish] that smell. Which means . . . "[[Ninja Pirate Zombie Robot|Iä! Iä! BRRAAAIIINNNS!]]"
* Considering the Deep Ones are (possibly) aliens, that fishy smell might just be their B.O.
* Considering the Deep Ones are (possibly) aliens, that fishy smell might just be their B.O.
** Nah, I think the story makes it pretty clear they're another species native to Earth. ("Seems that human folks has got a kind a' relation to sech water-beasts - that everything alive come aout o' the water onct an' only needs a little change to go back agin." "Can it be possible that this planet has actually spawned such things. . .") Lovecraft's aliens are REALLY alien.
** Nah, I think the story makes it pretty clear they're another species native to Earth. ("Seems that human folks has got a kind a' relation to sech water-beasts - that everything alive come aout o' the water onct an' only needs a little change to go back agin." "Can it be possible that this planet has actually spawned such things. . .") Lovecraft's aliens are REALLY alien.


== [[The Dunwich Horror (Literature)|Wilbur]] is [[Charlottes Web|Wilbur]]. ==
== [[The Dunwich Horror|Wilbur]] is [[Charlotte's Web|Wilbur]]. ==
Because they're both the runt of the litter and they live on a farm.
Because they're both the runt of the litter and they live on a farm.


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== Yog-Sothoth is one of the many beings which [[Doctor Who|Rassilon]] thrust out of the way in some manner or other in order to ensure the dominance of the Time Lords. ==
== Yog-Sothoth is one of the many beings which [[Doctor Who|Rassilon]] thrust out of the way in some manner or other in order to ensure the dominance of the Time Lords. ==


== [[My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic (Animation)|Nightmare Moon]] is Cthulu. ==
== [[My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic|Nightmare Moon]] is Cthulu. ==
Locked some place cold and dark (Moon/Depths of Ocean), incredible powers, will escape ''when the stars are right'', treated as myth by the local civilization (Ponyville/Everyone who hasn't been involved in anything) but known by foreigners (Zecora/cults) and people who read far too much (Twilight/?), it's form is sort of comprehensible but aspects are well beyond what people can grasp (Mane and fact she's an Alicorn / Giant octopus-dragon-man [[Starfish Alien]]).
Locked some place cold and dark (Moon/Depths of Ocean), incredible powers, will escape ''when the stars are right'', treated as myth by the local civilization (Ponyville/Everyone who hasn't been involved in anything) but known by foreigners (Zecora/cults) and people who read far too much (Twilight/?), it's form is sort of comprehensible but aspects are well beyond what people can grasp (Mane and fact she's an Alicorn / Giant octopus-dragon-man [[Starfish Alien]]).