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[[File:Protip.jpg|link=Doom (series)|rightframe| Complicated enough for you?]]
 
{{quote|''Whoa! [[Medium Awareness|Is that a long health bar]], [[Or Are You Just Happy to See Me?]]?''|'''Nathan Spencer''', ''[[Bionic Commando (Video Game)|Bionic Commando]] (2009)''}}
|'''Nathan Spencer''', ''[[Bionic Commando]] (2009)''}}
 
The absolutely most basic type of boss monster in a video game, generally a [[Giant Mook]] or [[King Mook]] with much higher health than standard enemies and attacks that cause lots of damage. Generally makes no attempt to block or evade the player's offenses, so no special strategies required - just attack it until it dies or if you want to get really fancy, [[When All You Have Is a Hammer|circlestrafe it]]. Can be considered the antithesis of a [[Puzzle Boss]]. Mostly prevalent in the [[FPS]] genre, but can also show up in other genres - even [[Role -Playing Game|RPGs]] if the designers were uninspired enough.
{{quote|''Whoa! [[Medium Awareness|Is that a long health bar]], [[Or Are You Just Happy to See Me]]?''|'''Nathan Spencer''', ''[[Bionic Commando (Video Game)|Bionic Commando]] (2009)''}}
 
The absolutely most basic type of boss monster in a video game, generally a [[Giant Mook]] or [[King Mook]] with much higher health than standard enemies and attacks that cause lots of damage. Generally makes no attempt to block or evade the player's offenses, so no special strategies required - just attack it until it dies or if you want to get really fancy, [[When All You Have Is a Hammer|circlestrafe it]]. Can be considered the antithesis of a [[Puzzle Boss]]. Mostly prevalent in the [[FPS]] genre, but can also show up in other genres - even [[Role Playing Game|RPGs]] if the designers were uninspired enough.
 
Named after an industry term for this type of boss, whose main attribute is that they can soak up damage like a sponge absorbs water.
 
If the HP is ''really'' high and the boss doesn't have any interesting moves, you have [[Fake Longevity]].
 
In MMORPGs, a variation is the Raid Boss, a boss so huge that a small army of players must cooperate to bring it down.
 
Related to [[Smash Mook]], [[When All You Have Is a Hammer]], [[Health Damage Asymmetry]]. God help you if this overlaps with [[Sequential Boss]].
 
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* The Cyberdemon boss from ''[[Doom]]'' is one of the more memorable examples - he takes a lot of hits, shoots rockets which can one-shot you with a direct hit at 100% health, and is defeated by circle strafing and shooting. The same goes for just about every other boss in the original ''Doom'' games, including the Barons of Hell and the Spider Mastermind.
** Although at least with the Spider Mastermind, the fact that its Triple Chaingun is a [[Hit Scan]] weapon does require you to put a little thought into not getting killed. But still, that only changes the strategy to "Shoot it until it dies, and don't wind up full of hot lead."
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** There's another complication regarding the Cyberdemon in the first Doom game. When you first encounter him, the level there has a [[Suspicious Videogame Generosity|huge]] supply of ammo for your Rocket Launcher, which is (at that point in the game) the weapon with the most raw power. Problem is, the Cyberdemon is immune to splash damage, meaning that only the damage caused by the direct hit has any effect on him. If you opt to use the rocket launcher, the battle ends up being drawn out even longer. If you have a surplus of plasma ammo, it might be faster to whip out the [[Energy Weapon|Plasma Rifle]] instead. Thankfully when he appears again {{spoiler|in the secret level of episode 3}}, you might've finally found '''[[Trope Namer|the]]''' [[BFG]], which makes the rematch [[Curb Stomp Battle|a lot easier]].
** In its first appearance, you can get the Cyberdemon caught up on the building architecture. Then shoot through a tiny gap in the building. Safely pecking it to death with the pistol becomes tedious though.
* Any given boss in ''[[Painkiller]]'' has a 50% chance of being either this or a [[Puzzle Boss]]. Or [[Puzzle Boss]] in one phase and [['''Damage Sponge Boss]]''' in other phase.
* The Nihilanth in ''[[Half-Life]]'' provides a cruel example of '''combining''' this with [[Puzzle Boss]]: you have to jump through a set of hoops just to unlock the path up to his [[Weak Spot]], then you have to do a ''ridiculous'' (as in "use up all the ammo of all your weapons, including rocket launchers") amount of damage to it to finish the game. Oh, and did I mention you have to do this ''in mid-air''?
* Izual from ''[[Diablo II]]'' is legendary for this trope.: Despite his scary appearance, the fallen angel doesn't do much beyond a couple of basic attacks--mostattacks—most characters can just stand there and attack him until the hitpoints are gone.
** This is so bad that theThe Amazon's Valkyrie summon can actually regenerate health faster than Izual can deal it, while slowly whittling his health down. He will also never change targets once he starts attacking your minion. Feel free to go make yourself a sandwich.
** The hard part about the fight is that your weapons will eventually wear out.
* Every boss ever in ''[[Maple Story]]''.
** In ''[[Diablo III]]'', the fight with {{spoiler|Izual is ''not'' this}}.
* In ''[[World of Warcraft]]'' they are currently known as "Tank and Spank" bosses, due to the tactics used to defeat them: Have a tank hold their attention while dpsDPS spanks them. For raids or heroics they are often called "Gear Check" bosses; even with the best teamwork and strategy possible, if the group does not have sufficient stats deal the damage needed to kill them, the group needs to return to earlier content.
* Every boss ever in ''[[Maple Story]]''.
* In ''[[World of Warcraft]]'' they are currently known as "Tank and Spank" bosses, due to the tactics used to defeat them: Have a tank hold their attention while dps spanks them. For raids or heroics they are often called "Gear Check" bosses; even with the best teamwork and strategy possible, if the group does not have sufficient stats deal the damage needed to kill them, the group needs to return to earlier content.
** Before ''Wrath'' launched these were often known as Patchwerks after the vanilla game's most infamous instance of this. The original Patchwerk was a boss in the first iteration of Naxxramas with only one special ability that was easily countered. The main difficulty was his enrage timer, as he would wipe a raid if he was not killed before it ran out. Patchwerk returned in the ''Wrath'' version of Naxxramas, but like the rest of the instance he was considerably easier (the fight mechanics were the same but the enrage timer was more forgiving).
** The first bosses made available on the Test Realms tend to be variants of this. The more complicated bosses appear later in the testing and raids.
* During the final mission of ''[[Command and& Conquer|Command & Conquer: Tiberian Sun's]]'' expansion pack, ''Firestorm'', you must face a foe unlike any other encountered in the series before or since. CABAL's Core Defender is a [[Humongous Mecha|massive bipedal robot]] which can withstand obscene amounts of firepower; enough to level entire bases thrice over. It wields a powerful laser cannon from each arm, capable of shredding most any ground unit in one shot; even GDI's most powerful unit, the Mammoth Mk. II, can only take two hits. The only silver lining is that there is only one of these things, and you don't necessarily have to beat it to complete the mission (doing so is [[Crowning Moment of Awesome|extremely satisfying]], however).
* Some of the Tarturus bosses and Arcana Priestess in ''[[Persona 3 (Video Game)|Persona 3]]'' and most of the mini-bosses in ''[[Persona 4 (Video Game)|Persona 4]]''. {{spoiler|And the final boss of ''Persona 4'', to an extent.}}
* Every boss in ''[[Knights of the Old Republic]]'' (both games) except Malak (as the final boss) in game one and Sion in game 2.
* ''[[Left 4 Dead]]''. The Tank is basically a [[Boss in Mook Clothing]] in that they can take a ludicrous amount of punishment before their demise, which is why most players prefer to just toss a molotov at one of them to kill them quickly. The Charger in ''[[Left 4 Dead]] 2'' acts like a light version of the Tank in some respects, but dies much faster, so he's more akin to a [[Bullfight Boss]].
* Most of the bosses in ''[[The Legend of Spyro]]'' trilogy are this way--especiallyway—especially in the first game. While later games gave the bosses more distinct patterns, the general strategy for most of them remained "Attack them while they're vulnerable; back up when they're not" strategy.
* Mother Brain in the various incarnations of ''[[Metroid]]'' is one of the most [[Puzzle Boss|uncharacteristically straightforward]] bosses in the game's history. Usually, she boils down to, "avoid her occasional beams/rings, don't fall into the lava, and bring out the missile spam."
** Exemplified in ''[[Super Metroid]]'', where, after defeating Mother Brain, you get to face her again, and the strategy becomes "use what missiles you have remaining to trigger the [[Eleventh -Hour Superpower]]". If you managed to find all the energy tanks, you don't even need to avoid taking damage: she simply can't hit you hard enough.
** In most incarnations, [[Recurring Boss|Ridley]] is one of the few bosses who simply has a ton of [[Hit Points]] rather than requiring you to [[Attack Its Weak Point]].
*** This is especially noticeable in ''Metroid: Fusion'' fight. It essentially boils down to you shooting missiles like crazy and praying that you don't run out of life before he does.
 
* God, ''[[God Hand]]'' loves this trope.: Demon Elvis is probably the best example.
* Pretty much every boss in a [[Shoot 'Em Up]] game a la ''[[Raiden]]''. Basically, both the boss and the player fill the screen with bullets until one of them dies.
** Pretty much every boss in [[Bullet Hell]] shooters qualifies for this.
* The boss at the end of ''[[Star Trek Elite Force]]'' wasis this ''despite'' having a bunch of glowing blinking gems on his body.
* The ''[[Grand Theft Auto]]'' series has a history with this:. Sonny, the end boss of ''Vice City'', is different from your average mobster only in that he can take ''three rockets to the face'' before dying.
* The bosses of the second and third "episodes" of ''[[Duke Nukem 3D (Video Game)|Duke Nukem 3D]]'' are both defeated by shooting at them and dodging their non-[[Hit Scan]] projectiles. It's not the case for the first boss, whose main weapon is hitscan and is defeated by shooting at it over a wall.
* The Wendigo from ''[[Final Fantasy X (Video Game)|Final Fantasy X]]''. Just after finishing up a [[Sequential Boss|long-winded]] [[Puzzle Boss]], you get to fight a big, dumb monster that can kill any member of your party in one punch, no other tricks needed. Thankfully, this boss seems to be missing the standard [[Contractual Boss Immunity]] to being blinded.
** Yiazmat from ''[[Final Fantasy XII (Video Game)|Final Fantasy XII]]''. He has over 50 million HP. Your party members can do a maximum of 9999 damage per hit, with that figure dropping to 6999 once you've gotten his HP down to half its starting value. Suffice it to say, you'll be there for a while.
* The boss of the Wild West area in the NES game ''Time Lord'', and infamously so. An average battle with him can drag on for up to four months (in game time; that's roughly 400-500 bullets) of continuous shooting...especially a pain in which there is a [[Timed Mission|strict time limit]] to complete the game.
* The group of demon-statues that act as [[The Dragon]] to {{spoiler|Master Li}} in ''[[Jade Empire]]'' are a definite case of this. Fight strategy: run around and hit them a lot. If low on health, stick your companion on Support mode and hide. Rinse and repeat.
* King Famardy from ''[[King of the Monsters]] 2'' has an extremely long life bar and the most damaging attacks you can use only take a small chip off it. [[Sarcasm Mode|Fun!]]
* The major difference between the difficulties in the first [[Mass Effect]] game was that on higher difficulties you had to spend more time sitting there on full-auto before anything died, leading to enemies taking comical amounts of punishment without the 'warp' de-buff or special ammo types.
** [[Mass Effect 2]] made it a lot more interesting, with one exception: A 'Praetorian', that replaces it's barriers repeatedly. In one boss section, where you are expected to whittle down a ship's drive core, while fending off zombies, you can subvert this by just shooting it with a ([[Everything Makes a Mushroom|sort of]]) [[Nuke 'Em|portable Nuke Launcher]]
* Most bosses in ''[[Borderlands (Video Game)|Borderlands]]'' go toward puzzle-esque bosses or [[Flunky Boss|FlunkyBosses]]. Not so with the final guy, who can soak up more bullets than most people can actually carry without the highest-level cargo expansions.
*** Suffice to say, most bosses in Borderlands are variants on "don't get hit, shoot him lots".
** Don't forget Sledge. And Skagzilla. And Nine-Toes...
* Rank 10 in ''[[No More Heroes]]: Desperate Struggle'' is equal parts a damage sponge (it's a giant [[BraininaBrain In a Jar]], they take some killing) and a [[Get Back Here Boss]], making the fight feel even longer.
*** Suffice to say, most bosses in Borderlands are variants on "don't get hit, shoot him lots".
* The sentinel in ''[[Iji (Video Game)|Iji]]'' is specially armored and nearly invincible. [[Puzzle Boss|You're supposed to just knock it into the electric shocky things]], but defeating it "normally" gives you a Supercharge. None of the infinite-ammo weapons have any effect on it, and getting enough ammo to kill it is a challenge in itself.
* Rank 10 in ''[[No More Heroes]]: Desperate Struggle'' is equal parts a damage sponge (it's a giant [[Brainina Jar]], they take some killing) and a [[Get Back Here Boss]], making the fight feel even longer.
* Every single boss in the ''[[Dawn of War]] II'' campaign is one of these. It gets a bit ridiculous.
* The sentinel in ''[[Iji (Video Game)|Iji]]'' is specially armored and nearly invincible. [[Puzzle Boss|You're supposed to just knock it into the electric shocky things]], but defeating it "normally" gives you a Supercharge. None of the infinite-ammo weapons have any effect on it, and getting enough ammo to kill it is a challenge in itself.
* One complaint about [[Dungeons and& Dragons]] 4th Edition at launch was that the Solo monsters had too many hitpoints, too high defenses, and not enough ability to act, reducing many fights to a stun-and-grind. Monster Manual 2 reduced the number of hitpoints and gave all solos some sort of ability to avoid being denied actions (as well as extra actions in many cases) to make the fights more interesting.
* Every single boss in the ''[[Dawn of War]] II'' campaign is one of these. It gets a bit ridiculous.
* ''[[Ragnarok Online]]'' has the Angeling, a souped-up version of the weakest (and most iconic) monster in the game. With 55,000 hitpoints - more than almost every non-boss monster in the game - daring low-level players may find themselves disappointed at the Angeling's inability to put up an actual FIGHTfight. Pretty much any player with the ability to outdamage its heals will almost certainly be able to kill it, provided their own healing potions hold out, but it will take a very, ''very'' long time if you aren't high enough level to render the creature irrelevant.
* One complaint about [[Dungeons and Dragons]] 4th Edition at launch was that the Solo monsters had too many hitpoints, too high defenses, and not enough ability to act, reducing many fights to a stun-and-grind. Monster Manual 2 reduced the number of hitpoints and gave all solos some sort of ability to avoid being denied actions (as well as extra actions in many cases) to make the fights more interesting.
* ''[[Dragon Quest IX (Video Game)|Dragon Quest IX]]'' has the boss fight with the Leviathan fairly early on. It doesn't doesn't really do anything special, it just hits a single target or your entire party with powerful physical attacks and takes an age and a half to kill.
* ''[[Ragnarok Online]]'' has the Angeling, a souped-up version of the weakest (and most iconic) monster in the game. With 55,000 hitpoints - more than almost every non-boss monster in the game - daring low-level players may find themselves disappointed at the Angeling's inability to put up an actual FIGHT. Pretty much any player with the ability to outdamage its heals will almost certainly be able to kill it, provided their own healing potions hold out, but it will take a very, ''very'' long time if you aren't high enough level to render the creature irrelevant.
** The second and last phase of the [[Final Boss]] in [[Dragon Quest I (Video Game)|the first Dragon Quest game]] is probably one of the purest examples of this. All it does is hit you hard either by physical attacks or breathing fire, and it has ridiculously high defense. The extent of the strategy is to attack it and cast Healmore on yourself when your HP gets low. If you can't win, do some [[Level Grinding]] and try again when you're stronger.
* ''[[Dragon Quest IX (Video Game)|Dragon Quest IX]]'' has the boss fight with the Leviathan fairly early on. It doesn't doesn't really do anything special, it just hits a single target or your entire party with powerful physical attacks and takes an age and a half to kill.
** The second and last phase of the [[Final Boss]] in [[Dragon Quest I (Video Game)|the first Dragon Quest game]] is probably one of the purest examples of this. All it does is hit you hard either by physical attacks or breathing fire, and it has ridiculously high defense. The extent of the strategy is to attack it and cast Healmore on yourself when your HP gets low. If you can't win, do some [[Level Grinding]] and try again when you're stronger.
* The two main bosses in ''[[Total Carnage]]'', Orcus and General Akhboob, require an inordinate amount of heavy weaponry before they finally go down.
* {{spoiler|Ming Xiao and the Landshark}} in ''[[Vampire: The Masquerade Bloodlines]]''. They have respectively the highest and second-to-highest HP in the game and no real weaknesses, tricks to defeat them or attack patterns, just an [[Instant Death Radius]] and the prior also spawns [[Mooks]]. Both tend to be [[That One Boss]] for that particular reason, the latter even more so because it's part of an [[Escort Mission]].
* ''[[Guild Wars]]'' has the infamous Rotscale, a bone dragon that has fairly simple moves, a small entourage of mooks... and over 20,000 HP. In a game where a SERIOUSLY stacked player might get up to 1,500. If you somehow manage not to get mauled by the always-poisoned arena and the mob that's with him, it can still take upwards of ten minutes to whittle him down.
* ''[[Grand Chase]]'' has a couple of these. Starkiln has a large amount of health compared to previous bosses, but his attack patterns are very easy to avoid, provided you keep near him. Arawn, the highest level boss in the game so far, deals rather low damage, and the only attack to really worry about is his 'Thunder Hammer'. He also has about 14 health bars on 3* difficulty, and 38 on Champion Mode. Throw in Increased Defense, and it's more like you're fighting 50.
* The [[Final Boss]] of ''[[Torchlight (Video Game)|Torchlight]]'' is this in a nutshell. It has [[Fake Difficulty|stupid quantities of HP]], does lots of damage, and frequently summons nearly-unending swarms of things that themselves have lots of HP. There's no strategy that can be employed outside "attack it with stuff and resurrect when you die." Indeed, many of the bosses are like this, but the final boss is the most egregious.
* Most Elder Dragons from the ''[[Monster Hunter (Video Game)|Monster Hunter]]'' series would count. Any one that uses the Dragonator, basically. Whereas most fights in the game consist of being acutely aware of attack patterns and attacking when it's open, for these giant guys you just keep shooting cannonballs at them, mostly. It's less a matter of getting killed and more a matter of doing enough damage quickly enough (there is a time limit, if you're too slow you'll just repel them, and if you're really slow you'll outright fail). Notable is Ceadeus in Tri; as well as Jhen Mohran and Lao-Shan Lung.
** Black Fatalis borders on this, boasting impressive one hit kills, but not being particularly fast or aggressive compared to any of the other bosses.
* All the bosses in ''[[Rule of Rose]]'' follow this mechanic: keep away from their decimating attacks. Attack whenever there's an opening. Continue for 15 minutes or so. Especially frustrating with the Mermaid Princess who you can only hit twice in a row before she retreats back to the ceiling for another attack.
* The final boss in ''[[Sunset Riders]],'' ''a guy in a business suit'', can take an absolutely insane amount of punishment.
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* Every boss in the obscure SNES game Xardion. Ideally you're supposed to level your characters up to do more damage to them, but even then they still take forever to kill.
* Dangaard in ''[[Seiken Densetsu 3]]''. The fight isn't difficult, just ''long''. It is split into four phases, alternating between overhead and side views. Prolonging the fight even further is the fact that you have to recast any buffs or debuffs you want to use each time the perspective changes.
* ''All'' the bosses in ''[[Cowboy Kid]]'' for the NES. All the bosses do is follow the same pattern over and over, and take dozens of bullets and tomahawks until they finally go down. The worst boss is hands-down the Mad Brothers, who take the average player upwards of ''ten minutes'' to fight, and the fact that they can't even hurt you unless you deliberately jump up to their platform makes it all the more frustrating.
* In [[Halo]], Brutes soak up an absurd amount of damage, and barely react until they suddenly collapse, in Halos 2, 3, and Reach. Tartarus takes this to absurd levels in Halo 2 as the final boss.
** Hunters might seem like this if you don't know to shoot for the orange goo... and in Halo Reach, they actually are this even if you're aiming for the orange.
* In the [[Call of Duty]] series, Juggernauts are this ''with a light machine gun''. In [[MW 3]], you can just gib them, but it takes about seven blocks of C4. Each of those blocks is a several-pound solid hunk of explosives.
* The Corn Boss in ''[[Castle Crashers (Video Game)|Castle Crashers]]''. While his constant disappearing-under-ground-and-popping-up-under-you might keep you on your toes and make it more entertaining than standing there and whaling on him, it also limits how often you can hit the bastard. Him dropping health every time he's hit also removes any challenge of staying alive, meaning you just dodge and chisel away at that enormous health bar for ages.
* The [[Hercules (Disney1997 film)||Rock Titan]] in the first [[Kingdom Hearts (Videovideo Gamegame)|Kingdom Hearts]], at least relative to the other bossess. Two of his three attacks are ridiculously easy to dodge, and battling him is more of a matter of time than a matter of difficulty.
* The Gaets in ''[[Tales of Legendia]]'' have truckloads of HP compared to other bosses (The first one has triple the HP of the previous boss, and the last one has the highest HP in the game), but aren't particularly difficult due to being huge targets and slow attackers.
* A basic feature of Archvillains (for heroes), Heroes (for villains) and Giant Monsters (for everyone) in ''[[City of Heroes]]/[[City of Villains]]''.
 
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