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** Technically, both are subversions already...
*** Yes, but there are occasional cases in which there is a double subversion.
* The usage of expressions like "black hearted" or "black sheep" to define evil dark characters ''while reffering to this trope'' (example: reffering to the evil [[Magic:
** The distinction between "dark" as evil and "dark" as dark is a real one, like the distinction between "fly" as an insect and "fly" as a pants zipper. Just as someone who says "fly" to mean an insect needn't be called hypocritical for also calling a pants zipper a "fly," one can easily switch between the two definitions of "dark." (Consider, for instance, ''[[Gunga Din (film)|Gunga Din]]'', which comments on how the dark-skinned title character would be classified as "white" in morality.)
** Besides, many of those terms are antiquated, from times when people were much more superstitious about things like the darkness and omens of evil.
* When stories have this trope as the main theme, it also usually carries the moral that not everybody has bad in them. These stories also tend to have [[Light Is Not Good]] uber-evil hypocritical [[Jerkass|Jerkasses]] for villains. Why?
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** That's not my question. Let me word it better. Why do stories with this trope tend to say, "Nobody is completely evil, it's not all [[Black and White Morality]]" then have completely evil villains who are only pretending to be good (e.g. mixing [[Satan Is Good]] with [[God Is Evil]])? Isn't that missing their own point?
** It might be a juxtaposition. Showing a character who looks evil that is good, against a known evil acting good. Or, a [[Gray and Grey Morality]] showing one is a darker shade of gray. Like having a Judas character alongside a Satan character.
*** Quite. It gets somewhat bland if both the good guys and the bad guys use black magic and/ore are [[Combat Pragmatist|dirty fighters]] who [[Would Hit a Girl]], as well as anything else, really, even [[Kick the Dog|puppies]].So, if [[Dark Is Not Evil]] is in play, [[Light Is Not Good]] just complements [[The Order of the Stick
* The nature of discussing this trope loses objectivity when there is no real defined meaning of what something does or is, that makes them a ''dark'' character, and it tends to be an overrused buzz word to imply something cool. What is it? Is it dark as in void of light and doesn't absorb brightness? Does the brightness symbolize hope, joy and optimism (resulting in a character that is cynical and moody?) or does the light in question refer to the realization or guilt of mind tricks or empathy of which the character is not affected by (implying that a dark character is one that is almost sociopathic)? Or does it simply imply someone that doesn't play honourably, and fights dirty? I 'unno, I see people throw the word dark around all the time, but it's never quite clear what it means.
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