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** It was not stated that anyone with sky map and eyes can do this. As long as agency they work against has access to observation-analytics-library facilities like the one we saw, they aren't too "covert", yeah. And that's what happened on-screen, especially if Contractor doesn't leave the scene immediately. Lois was cornered, and then cornered ''again''. Berta and her partner were pinpointed after first use of her power and would be caught if guy could not deal with so many observers so quickly. "Gate-sama" was an enigma only for [[Muggles]]. Primrose's hideaways were visited by police at least twice. Hei got away repeatedly only on pure ninjutsu. On the other hand, we see too many Contractors already knowing each other anyway, whether personally or from briefing.
* Those random Scandinavians (which I ''think'' are supposed to be Finns, based on the names, but I could be wrong here, as the guy's name is kinda odd, as far as I've observed) were an interesting addition and all... but c'mon, is it too much to ask to get the [[VA|VAs]] to learn how to ''pronounce their characters' names right''? Eelis' VA did get close with Eelis' name, yeah, but considering that Eelis should be of the same nationality as Yin/Kirsi, not to mention having been closely acquaintaced with her, he really should be capable of getting Kirsi's name right.
** This is a failing of the Japanese language, not the [[V AsVAs]]. They don't actually have a "si" sound, so the closest approximation is "shi". Unless you're talking about the dub? In which case, just ignore me.
*** Actually this troper, when I was learning Japanese, was taught to pronounce his name in Japanese syllables when introducing himself. It's possible they're simply doing the same thing, rendering their names in a way that's easier for the language?
* If rockets vanish once they're launched past the stratosphere due to the false sky, how come cell phones and other commnication devices are able to work?
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** Sex is a major theme in season 2, especially sexual deviancy. There is exactly one lolicon, one shotacon, one lesbian, and one okama in the cast so far, in addition to Suou's period. Why? I have no idea, but if I were paid money to guess I would say that it's meant to tie in to Suou's [[Final Fantasy VI|Terra]]-esque "what is love" motif. Alternatively, the writers may be going for an X-Men vibe of equating contractors to sexual deviants, much as X-Men recently started using mutants as the new gay people--note that the okama father is immediately and utterly accepting of contractors and doesn't question their coldness.
** I am also offput by all of the lolicon- they better not hook up Hei and Suou. On the other hand, I did get the vibe that with the crossdresser father, they might have been going for the gay = mutant idea of the [[X-Men]]. On the other hand, it's kind of surprising, but besides [[The Syndicate]], average people so far don't really seem to hate Contractors, which is weird given how mutants are treated in most series, and Contractors are a lot more dangerous. Like that mother in the latest episode telling her child not to look at Hei fighting Genma, because if Contractors see you, they will "take your bellybutton". Sure, that's making them bogeymen, but she seemed pretty calm.
** I thought that the series handled the interaction well enough to be neither 'fucking' nor 'pedophilia', seeing as all but a handful relationships are developed in a way that practically spells out: "''this is '''not''' healthy''". And then there's Suou's heartbreaking "confession": ("It hurt even more when you hit me. There are so many things I don't understand... but when you called me Suou, I was so happy. Then I found out it was to save {{spoiler|Yin}}, I became confused. '''{{spoiler|You killed my dad.}}''' You're a terrible, good-for-nothing, violent drunk. Yet I became so lonely when we were separated.) That's bad enough coming from an abused wife, but this is from a kid, barely in her teens, who's been screwed up by events entirely beyond her control. If her character is being exploited, it's tugging at our heartstrings, not our nether regions. As for Norio, he's a nutjob and never taken seriously. It's interesting to note that Norio and Suou's age gap (~[[18 and ~]]13) happens to match that of [[Romeo and Juliet|another famously doomed couple]].
* It bugs me that everyone says Contractors are emotionless when they're clearly not.
** That would be a major theme of the series, yes.
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***** [[Word of God]] has been pretty tight-lipped about the entire situation, actually. This Troper hasn't seen much of ''anything'' from the writers alluding to them being in a romantic relationship or having mutual romantic feelings for each other. As the above troper states, it's relatively ambiguous and shippers can ship whoever they want, or ship no one at all. In other words: if you want to see it, it's there. If you don't want to see it, it's not there.
** This troper doesn't really see it as lolicon, there doesn't seem to be that great a difference in height (at least in the OVA) between the two and the manager of the resort they visit posing as a married couple seems to easily accept that Yin could be Hei's wife so it doesn't appear the age gap between them is all that big.
* Okay, this has been bugging me for ages, but I think I finally figured out why Hei's second-season characterization bothers me so much. I understand that they wanted to do a storyline where he's in terrible shape psychologically and slowly gets over it. Heck, I might have been able to forgive some of the [[Took a Level Inin Jerkass|jerkass behavior]] under different circumstances. But why the hell would someone whose job constantly puts him in situations where he has to fight for his life start ''drinking''? Hei isn't stupid; he'd know perfectly well that not thinking clearly in his line of work is ''a really bad idea''. Not only that, but his reaction seems extreme even given what he went through, since he's had to cope with pretty much the same thing in the past. I'd think it would be more in character for him to just retreat even further into stoic paranoia, with Yin/Izanami as a new [[Berserk Button]], since that's what happened last time he was betrayed, had his hopes smashed, and lost someone he loved. There's no previous evidence to suggest that when he's angry he lashes out at random people; he just gets [[Tranquil Fury|quiet, calm, and absolutely vicious]] to whichever poor sap pissed him off.
** Perhaps because, no matter how depressed he gets, Hei retains the need to consume. Since he doesn't feel like taking a real job in Russia, going to the local restaurant is out of the question. Thus: bottled calories.
** The Gaiden [[OVA|OVAs]] explain why Hei started to drink: {{spoiler|he became a drunken version of [[Don't You Dare Pity Me!]].}}
** There's also the fact that Hei, already a pretty sombre character, was originally notable for having the ''single'' comedic trait of eating a lot. By taking away this trait and replacing it with the much less humorous alcoholism, the show achieves a sort of [[Player Punch]] without having to kill anyone.
* It just bugs me that the second season has a plot outline that sounds like a bad fanfic. To whit: A [[Original Character|completely new character]] joins the original protagonist, who is [[Out of Character|turned into]] [[Took a Level Inin Jerkass|an abusive jerkass]] to [[Sympathetic Sue|make us feel sorry for her]]. Then she becomes a Contractor, but her emotions don't change at all, with no explanation (and she gets a [[Transformation Sequence]]!). From that point on, [[Spotlight-Stealing Squad|most of the plot is about her]], even though at the end it turns out {{spoiler|she wasn't even directly involved in the scheme that got the whole mess started}}. A character who died is [[Unexplained Recovery|brought back]] with just a [[Hand Wave]] (presumably because the author liked him), and most characters who survived the original are reduced to a few scenes at best: Kirihara is mostly shoved offscreen despite [[They Wasted a Perfectly Good Plot|her great story potential]], and Yin spends the whole time {{spoiler|either [[Convenient Coma|in a coma]] or possessed by her shiny new [[Super-Powered Evil Side]]}}, which seems almost like a [[Morality Pet]] version of [[Die for Our Ship]]. If this had been a story on fanfiction.net, I'd ask somebody to write a [[Protectors of the Plot Continuum]] mission for it! I actually don't think it was bad, but it still bothers me.
** This troper skipped the entire second season really. The first season stands up on it's own and the ONLY plot hook is very transparent and was obviously added at the last second.
** Good point. I was glad to have Mao there, but there's really no reason at all he should have been.
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* Why does everybody say that Genma was a pedophile? I never once got that vibe from him. The only things I can think of that even come close are the two instances in which he calls Suou a "cute little kid," and even then, he sounded more as if he were mocking her for seeming unthreatening. In fact, he's been labeled as a [[Complete Monster]] several times on this site, but the most evil I ever saw him commit was killing Yoko and nearly killing Suou, and while those are certainly evil actions, I don't see how they transform him from "villain" to "complete monster."
 
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