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== Literature ==

* The ''Taltos'' novels of ''[[Dragaera]]'' see people die and come back all the time; "revivification" is a tricky spell but most nobles will be willing to have an emergency fund for just such an occasion. If you want someone to ''stay'' dead, cutting off their head or damaging their brain will make reviving them impossible, or you can always stab them with a Morganti weapon, which will eat their soul, not only preventing resurrection but also cutting the victim out of the cycle of afterlife and reincarnation that is the natural order of things in Dragaera. One of the few times where Deader Than Dead ''really means'' deader than dead.

* Played straight in [[The Wheel of Time]], in which villains killed by conventional means are reincarnated frustratingly often, as with :Ishamael being resurrected as Moridin, Aginor becoming Osan'gar, Balthamel becoming Aran'gar, and Lanfear becoming Cyndane. In-world, only a weave of balefire will actually prevent resurrection, and that's only because it causes death by [[Retcon]], not due to any effect on souls or such - the reincarnater can only grab souls of the recently dead and balefire takes someone directly from "alive" to "dead non-recently". Villains who have been killed by balefire are Deader Than Dead, now including Be'lal, balefired by Moiraine Damodred in book 3; Rahvin, balefired by Rand al'Thor in book 5, and Semirhage and Graendal, balefired by Rand in book 12. Only a few villains are Deader Than Dead when killed by other means, such as Osan'gar, killed a second time by Elza Penfell wielding Callandor in book 9, and the Dark One does not give third chances; and Sammael, killed by ''Mashadar'' in Shadar Logoth in book 7, a permanent kill confirmed by the [[Word of God]].

** Also, Asmodean was killed by an unknown assailant at the end of book 5, and the Dark One states in the next book that his death is permanent; it is unknown whether or not he was actually killed with balefire. In book 13, it was revealed that while Graendal escaped Rand's balefile, Aran'gar was unexpectedly present and killed Deader Than Dead by it.

* In the ''Dream Park'' novels, participants in high-tech adventure LARPs who get "killed" are designated as slain by a black holographic aura. In ''The California Voodoo Game'', a zombie struck down by the Gamers is immediately cloaked by ''two'' overlapping black auras, indicating it's this trope.

** Also from ''California Voodoo'': areas of MIMIC that are off-limits for players are marked out with "radiation" symbols. Any character who violates a "radiation area" is not only killed without a saving throw, but their character is ''permanently'' declared dead by the International Fantasy Gaming Society, never to be played again.

 

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