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** As'taris, dying to take the newly revealed Kansael from John, threatens to cut it out of his chest. Ringo [[Mind Over Matter|telekinetically]] shoves him away, takes his sword, and threatens to drop him in the ocean if he tries it again. As'taris is so impressed that Ringo actually fought back that he immediately drops his main objection to the four (that they were noncombatants) and thereafter views them as peers—more or less.
** The four “defeat” {{spoiler|the Hunter (and by proxy Jeft)}} simply by [[True Companions|being themselves]]; their obvious love for one another makes him long for an alternative to his friendless, loveless life of adventure and murder. He becomes the best friend they make in the entire book.
* ''[[The Legend of Zelda: Rings of Dualty]]'' subverts it with the main characters, Link and Samba, because their battle came to a draw. Played pretty straight with {{spoiler|the Leviathans of Material}}.
 
 
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** In ''[[Final Fantasy VII]]'', it's Yuffie, who joins your party after a fight in an attempt [[Wutai Theft|to screw you over]]. Eventually becomes a sincere member of the party after you {{spoiler|save her from Don Corneo.}}
** In ''[[Final Fantasy XIII-2]]'', Most of the monsters you beat (non-boss only) become your familiar and help you in fights.
* In ''[[Castlevania III: DraculasDracula's Curse]]'', Trevor Belmont picks up allies Grant and Alucard only after defeating them as bosses.
* In the ''[[Shin Megami Tensei]]'' series if you defeat a boss you can create it through fusion, and this will remain in the compendium even in [[New Game+]] and can be summoned regardless of level provided you have enough money to summon it.
** ''[[Devil Survivor]]'' has the <s>Nintendo DS lookalike</s> COMP, which upon activation summon a demon for you to fight. If you defeat it, it will become your subordinate. And then a fraction of the way into the game, [[Cosplay Otaku Girl|Midori]] defeats a [[Series Mascot|Jack Frost]] and teaches him about [[The Power of Love]] and [[The Power of Friendship|Friendship]]. {{spoiler|A few days later, he reappears and depending on your choices, you can ''recruit him into your party'' on the last day.}}
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** One of Reimu's alternate outfits/color schemes in 12.3, ''Hisoutensoku'', is a [[Shout-Out]] to the [[Lyrical Nanoha|Nanoha herself]]. Makes sense, as they both are fans of Friendship Through Superior Firepower.
** In ''Labyrinth of Touhou'', a fanmade CRPG based on ''[[Etrian Odyssey]]'', a boss fight with one of the major ''Touhou'' girls pretty much always ends with the girl ([[The One Guy|or guy, in the case of Rinnosuke]]) in question "joining" Reimu's party in the post-battle cutscene. How willing each girl is at the matter varies individually, though.
* A continuing video game example: Many newcomers in the ''[[Sonic the Hedgehog]]'' franchise fight Sonic, [[Let's You and Him Fight|usually out of misunderstanding]], before joining his side. This dates back as far as Knuckles (from 1994's ''[[Sonic 3 and Knuckles]]'', but several times since) to the additions of Blaze (''[[Sonic Rush Series]]'') and Silver (''[[Sonic the Hedgehog (2006 (video game)||Sonic the Hedgehog 2006]]''). The real baddie usually shows up midfight, making the opposing character perform a [[Heel Face Turn]] split-second.
** Shadow in ''[[Sonic Adventure 2]]'' is an exception in that {{spoiler|he's the one orchestrating the evil}}, so even after his defeats at the hands of Sonic, he continues to be evil. His [[Heel Face Turn]] comes later.
*** Speaking of ''Sonic Adventure 2'', this is definitely played straight with Knuckles, who manages to befriend Rouge {{spoiler|after he defeats her in a battle, and soon afterward saves her life and earns her respect.}}
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* ''[[Mortal Kombat]]'' spoofs this with the "Friendship" [[Finishing Move]].
* In ''Battle For Meridell'', a game available on the website [[Neopets]], you battle monster versions of the species you can fight as. When defeated, they turn good and fight for you. This also works both ways, as them defeating one of your characters turns them evil (and makes them lose any equipment they were carrying).
* This happens to [[The Rival|Roxis]] of ''[[Mana Khemia: Alchemists of Al -Revis]]'', as the terms of a bet made by the heroes against the [[Goldfish Poop Gang]], the latter of which Roxis was a part of. However, it's subverted in that Roxis ''doesn't think'' of [[The Hero]] as his friend throughout the game.
* In the NES version of ''[[Double Dragon]] III'', the bosses of the China (Chin) and Japan (Ranzou) stages join your side after you defeat them. Interestingly, they actually become playable characters, allowing you to continue if Billy or Jimmy is killed or even to temporarily use their strengths (powerful claw punch and speedy ninjato respectively) where most useful.
* In ''[[Mega Man Powered Up]]'', The [[Updated Rerelease]] of ''[[Mega Man 1]]'', if you defeat the bosses using only Mega Man's Buster said boss will be left intact upon defeat and be taken back to Dr. Light's lab for repairs, making them playable. Using any other weapon will just destroy them.
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* This occurs once in ''[[Valkyrie Profile]]''. Throughout the game, you witness the deaths of heroes, and recruit their souls for Ragnarok. At one point, the Valkyrie is commanded by the goddess Freya to kill a wizard named Gandar and take his soul. After he's dead, he refuses to join up with Valkyrie. She gives him the ultimatum of joining her or being sent to Hell. He grudgingly accepts.
* In ''[[Paper Mario (franchise)|Paper Mario]]'', <s>Lakilester</s> Spike fights Mario on Huff N. Puff's orders. After Mario beats him, he joins his party.
* A few of ''[[EarthboundEarthBound]]'''s supporting characters are introduced as bosses, even one in particular who {{spoiler|helps you defeat Giygas.}}
* In ''[[Recettear: An Item Shop's Tale]]'', Charme gives you her Adventurer Card a few days after she's defeated at Jade Way, allowing you to recruit her for other missions.
* In ''[[Banjo-Kazooie|Banjo-Tooie]]'', Terry, the boss in Terrydactyland, accuses Banjo and Kazooie of stealing his eggs, and they fight him in a boss battle. After Terry is defeated, Banjo says that they haven't stolen his eggs, and offers to look for them for him. After finding them, he thanks them and rewards them with a Jiggy.
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* ''[[Inazuma Eleven]]'' is full clock of this. Even the most evil people becomes good by the end of the third games after you have beaten them again and again. Bonus point goes to the fact that you can recruit almost every of them into your team.
* Opponents also become allies after they are beaten in ''[[Danball Senki]]'', which is from the same creator as Inazuma.
* In ''[[Sin and& Punishment: Star Successor]]'', {{spoiler|the Griffin Keeper boss of Stage 5 befriends the main characters after they defeat it, and it offers to carry them to their destination Mt. Fuji}}.
* In ''[[Solatorobo]]'', a quest with Alman has him asking Red to teach his new apprentice to work harder. The apprentice wants none of it, telling them to leave him alone, and eventually prompts Red to fight him. Once beaten, his attitude does a 180 and he'll do anything "Boss" Red tells him to, including working as hard as he possibly can.
 
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== Web Comics ==
* Played with in ''[[Misfile]]'' while most of Ash's races are nothing more than just races (some friendly, some less so), when Ash gets defeated by [[Big Bad|Kamikaze Kate]] it is Kate that declares Ash not only to be her friend, but surrogate "[[Replacement Goldfish|little sister]]".
* Played straight in ''[[Erfworld]]'' with {{spoiler|Ansom}}, although this is largely due to a [[MacGuffin]] whose entire purpose is to bring about Defeat Means Friendship. {{spoiler|[[Back Fromfrom the Dead|When it raises you from the dead]]}}.
** Though just about everyone at least suspects that mind control is involved, with most people believing it completely.
* ''[[El Goonish Shive]]'' clearly ''wants'' to subvert it at the climax of ''Sister II'', even using the title "Not Quite BFFs", but no one actually expected it in the first place.
* Played straight in ''[[Our Little Adventure]]''. Pauline the barbarian joins the group after getting defeated in combat.
** Inverted later in the comic when [[Talking Animal|Norveg]] 'defeats' [[Jerkass|Angelika]] by deflecting a thrown bottle at him back at her. Norveg joins her after as her familiar.
* A rather extreme example in ''[[Fite!]]''—once Lucco takes the upper hand while fighting Guz, Guz suddenly puts down his sword and gives Lucco a big ol' hug.
* ''[[Schlock Mercenary]]'' has two borderline cases. They earlier did some police work which involved arresting for disturbance, endangering and hacking a [[Le Parkour|parkour]] gang who turned out to be a bunch of former {{spoiler|UNS military intelligence people}} bored enough to practice an exotic martial art as a performance art, and there were some hard feeling on both sides over the whole mess, though they managed to get over it. Later it turned out that they retired specifically after destruction by a third party of the very ship that came closest to actually wiping out the Tagon's Toughs. Then one of Toughs' teams (with one of those amateur acrobats as a driver, at that) quickly ran into [[Law Enforcement, Inc.|rent-a-cop team]] led by Major Murtaugh with mixed results - eventually even were arrested, but this didn't work out well. After the smoke cleared, they came to an agreement - but she ended up fired by her company. Eventually they all were hired by the Toughs, mainly on Karl Tagon's initiative (of course, one reason was that [[I Want Grandkids|he wants grandkids]], so once Karl became the boss, his reorganization of the company "coincidentally" placed Kaff Tagon and Alexia Murtaugh in the same rank, and not in one chain of command - no great surprise for the readers).
 
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* In ''[[Misfiled Dreams]]'', Jenny loses everything she has/is to Ash. Emily and Ash eventually bring Jenny through a [[Heel Face Turn]].
* Played somewhat straight in ''[[The Leet World]]'' with Cortez and the Domination Guy, who is hired by Cortez's [[Cain and Abel|insane brother]] Mendoza to kill him. However, Cortez earns [[Worthy Opponent|his respect]] when he beats him in single combat. While the Domination Guy doesn't join Cortez's side, he does return later in the series to save Cortez's life during the final confrontation with Ahmad. Possibly partially subverted in that Mendoza is not pleased with the Domination Guy's [[Heel Face Turn]] and captures, tortures and eventually executes him.
* Appropriately enough, given Stinkoman's clichéd [[ShonenShōnen Demographicmanga]] personality, in the ''[[Homestar Runner]]'' cartoon "20X6 vs. 1936", Stinkoman befriends The 1936 Homestar Runner soon after being defeated with a pea shooter.
* In ''[[Greek Ninja]]'', Sasha and Daichi came close to defeating each other. Later on, Daichi joins her and her team on their quest.
 
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* In one of the most epic boxing matches ever, George Foreman was defeated by [[Muhammad Ali]] in 1974. The two became good friends afterward.
* [[Howard Stern]] often gained the praises or at least acceptance of many former radio and celebrity rivals once he established his ratings supremacy and celebrity credibility.
* The first encounter of Turkey and Australia was on opposing sides of a battlefield in [[World War OneI]]. The conflict was both fierce and gentlemanly - an odd combination which, despite the eventual defeat of the Australian forces, created a bond of mutual respect, admiration, and friendship between the nations which continues to this day.
* [[Jimmy Carter]] became good friends with former rival [[Gerald Ford]] after his presidency ended.
** Likewise with [[Bill Clinton]] and [[George Bush]], who seem to have spent most of the last decade co-organizing charity events.