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** Eli is more than just a troubled kid who means well, but is actually a sociopathic monster who literally wants to kill Clare and drink her blood.
** Eli is more than just a troubled kid who means well, but is actually a sociopathic monster who literally wants to kill Clare and drink her blood.
** Imogen is similar, only she wants to consume Eli's blood instead of Clare's [[Les Yay|most of the time]].
** Imogen is similar, only she wants to consume Eli's blood instead of Clare's [[Les Yay|most of the time]].
** Drew has [[Narcissist|Narcissistic]] [[It's All About Me|Personality]] [[Personality Disorders|Disorder]], which would explain why he is such a raging [[Jerkass]] and the current Degrassi King of [[Kick the Dog|Kicking the Dog]].
** Drew has [[Narcissist]]ic [[It's All About Me|Personality]] [[Personality Disorders|Disorder]], which would explain why he is such a raging [[Jerkass]] and the current Degrassi King of [[Kick the Dog|Kicking the Dog]].
** Bianca actually has feelings for Adam, but her pride and her fear of exploring feelings for an FTM caused her to lash out at him and push him away before anything real could come of it.
** Bianca actually has feelings for Adam, but her pride and her fear of exploring feelings for an FTM caused her to lash out at him and push him away before anything real could come of it.
** Despite taking quite a bit of effort to establish himself as transgender and exclusively interested in females, Adam would consider going gay for Eli.
** Despite taking quite a bit of effort to establish himself as transgender and exclusively interested in females, Adam would consider going gay for Eli.
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* [[Anvilicious]]: Just about everything on the show.
* [[Anvilicious]]: Just about everything on the show.
** [[Some Anvils Need to Be Dropped]]: Even so, some of the lessons (such as the senselessness of teen violence, rape, abuse, and sex) need to be delivered.
** [[Some Anvils Need to Be Dropped]]: Even so, some of the lessons (such as the senselessness of teen violence, rape, abuse, and sex) need to be delivered.
** It's much more educationally-oriented than most [[Teen Drama|Teen Dramas]], if not as painfully obviously so as the old Degrassi; Linda Schuyler, after all, started as a classroom teacher who wasn't satisfied with the filmstrips then available and decided to make her own. This has positive effects (boys are considered part of the audience they're trying to reach, not a [[Periphery Demographic]], so guy stuff is taken seriously) and negative ones (sometimes it feels like every episode is a [[Very Special Episode]]).
** It's much more educationally-oriented than most [[Teen Drama]]s, if not as painfully obviously so as the old Degrassi; Linda Schuyler, after all, started as a classroom teacher who wasn't satisfied with the filmstrips then available and decided to make her own. This has positive effects (boys are considered part of the audience they're trying to reach, not a [[Periphery Demographic]], so guy stuff is taken seriously) and negative ones (sometimes it feels like every episode is a [[Very Special Episode]]).
* [[Archive Panic]]: Even when there was only three seasons it would usually take a whole weekend for The-N to air all the episodes during their annual "every Degrassi ever" marathon. Ten seasons later and you'd need an entire summer vacation of nothing but Degrassi nonstop. Even though it ''should'' be called "[[Never Trust a Trailer|every Degrassi since the]] [[Turn of the Millennium]]" since [[Viacom]] doesn't have the rights to ''[[Degrassi Junior High]]'' and ''[[Degrassi High]]''.
* [[Archive Panic]]: Even when there was only three seasons it would usually take a whole weekend for The-N to air all the episodes during their annual "every Degrassi ever" marathon. Ten seasons later and you'd need an entire summer vacation of nothing but Degrassi nonstop. Even though it ''should'' be called "[[Never Trust a Trailer|every Degrassi since the]] [[Turn of the Millennium]]" since [[Viacom]] doesn't have the rights to ''[[Degrassi Junior High]]'' and ''[[Degrassi High]]''.
* [[Badass Decay]]: Of the [[Fan Nickname|Candy Bandits]] Jay and Alex became a lot less impressive toward the end of their run.
* [[Badass Decay]]: Of the [[Fan Nickname|Candy Bandits]] Jay and Alex became a lot less impressive toward the end of their run.
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* [[Crack Pairing]]: Paige showed some interest in Sean in season 1. All the Sean/Paige fanfics out there would make you believe [[They Do]].
* [[Crack Pairing]]: Paige showed some interest in Sean in season 1. All the Sean/Paige fanfics out there would make you believe [[They Do]].
* [[Creator's Pet]]: Mia and Emma are two of the more commonly cited examples, due to their amount of screentime and constant shilling; also Craig ended up receiving a lot of backlash in response to [[Spotlight-Stealing Squad|all the attention he was given.]] Eli and Clare are becoming this as well. While a large part of the fandom likes them, a big part of the fandom also hates them, and it's obvious the people in control of the show favor them. Interestingly Clare gets hate from Eli fangirls for dumping Eli, while a lot of people that were against the Eli/Clare relationship hate her less for doing the 'sane' thing.
* [[Creator's Pet]]: Mia and Emma are two of the more commonly cited examples, due to their amount of screentime and constant shilling; also Craig ended up receiving a lot of backlash in response to [[Spotlight-Stealing Squad|all the attention he was given.]] Eli and Clare are becoming this as well. While a large part of the fandom likes them, a big part of the fandom also hates them, and it's obvious the people in control of the show favor them. Interestingly Clare gets hate from Eli fangirls for dumping Eli, while a lot of people that were against the Eli/Clare relationship hate her less for doing the 'sane' thing.
* [[Critical Research Failure]]: An in-story example of this in a season six episode, combined with [[Writers Cannot Do Math|Writers Can't Do Math.]] During an argument with Sean, one point Emma raises is that "in three months, I'll be legally old enough to vote", meaning she'll be turning eighteen in three months. Now, this wouldn't be so bad if the episode took place in spring, and it wouldn't be noticeable to anyone who only saw the new series...but is outright painful for anyone who saw the original series Emma was ''born'' in. At the end of the second season on [[Degrassi Junior High|Degrassi Junior High,]] Emma's mother, Spike, went into labour at the last dance post-exams, which would place Emma's birthday in June. The problem? ''Season six only covers the first half of the semester and the episode in question takes place around September.''
* [[Critical Research Failure]]: An in-story example of this in a season six episode, combined with [[Writers Cannot Do Math|Writers Can't Do Math.]] During an argument with Sean, one point Emma raises is that "in three months, I'll be legally old enough to vote", meaning she'll be turning eighteen in three months. Now, this wouldn't be so bad if the episode took place in spring, and it wouldn't be noticeable to anyone who only saw the new series...but is outright painful for anyone who saw the original series Emma was ''born'' in. At the end of the second season on [[Degrassi Junior High]], Emma's mother, Spike, went into labour at the last dance post-exams, which would place Emma's birthday in June. The problem? ''Season six only covers the first half of the semester and the episode in question takes place around September.''
* [[Derailing Love Interests]]
* [[Derailing Love Interests]]
* [[Designated Protagonist Syndrome]]: Since she was the link between the original Degrassi and the second generation, people often considered Emma to be the "main" character during her years on the show. However, she underwent a HUGE [[Flanderization]] in Season 4 and never really recovered from it, so many fans see her charcter in a [[Jerk Sue|pretty]] [[Creator's Pet|negative]] light.
* [[Designated Protagonist Syndrome]]: Since she was the link between the original Degrassi and the second generation, people often considered Emma to be the "main" character during her years on the show. However, she underwent a HUGE [[Flanderization]] in Season 4 and never really recovered from it, so many fans see her charcter in a [[Jerk Sue|pretty]] [[Creator's Pet|negative]] light.
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** Mia, just... Mia... besides being a [[Creator's Pet]], she got in the way of JT/Liberty ''and'' Peter/Darcy. It's almost like the writers were asking for it.
** Mia, just... Mia... besides being a [[Creator's Pet]], she got in the way of JT/Liberty ''and'' Peter/Darcy. It's almost like the writers were asking for it.
** Speaking against [[Portmanteau Couple Naming|EClare]] in ANY way became blasphemy in the world of fandom LONG before Eli was ever featured in an episode.
** Speaking against [[Portmanteau Couple Naming|EClare]] in ANY way became blasphemy in the world of fandom LONG before Eli was ever featured in an episode.
*** At a recent cast party (the one in Montclair), the entire room booed every time Jake was mentioned-- except for when Clare {{spoiler|told him she wasn't ready for sex, setting up for their eventual breakup}}. It got to the point where Munro Chambers, the actor who played Eli, basically yelled at the fans to shut up (mostly because [[Real Life Subtext|the actor who plays Jake is his real life best friend.]]
*** At a recent cast party (the one in Montclair), the entire room booed every time Jake was mentioned—except for when Clare {{spoiler|told him she wasn't ready for sex, setting up for their eventual breakup}}. It got to the point where Munro Chambers, the actor who played Eli, basically yelled at the fans to shut up (mostly because [[Real Life Subtext|the actor who plays Jake is his real life best friend.]]
* [[Draco in Leather Pants]]: Mainly Jay and Peter. Craig counts as his misdeeds with Ellie, Ashley, and Manny are often overlooked. Eli is this as well.
* [[Draco in Leather Pants]]: Mainly Jay and Peter. Craig counts as his misdeeds with Ellie, Ashley, and Manny are often overlooked. Eli is this as well.
** Back in the day, [[Broken Base|fans either]] did this to Manny or [[Die for Our Ship|portrayed her as a slut]].
** Back in the day, [[Broken Base|fans either]] did this to Manny or [[Die for Our Ship|portrayed her as a slut]].
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** There are numerous fics in which JT is still alive and he and Liberty live happily ever after.
** There are numerous fics in which JT is still alive and he and Liberty live happily ever after.
* [[Fan-Preferred Couple]]: (Jimmy/Ellie, so much so that [[Ship Sinking|the writers caught on]] and [[Pair the Spares|hooked Jimmy up with Ashley.]])
* [[Fan-Preferred Couple]]: (Jimmy/Ellie, so much so that [[Ship Sinking|the writers caught on]] and [[Pair the Spares|hooked Jimmy up with Ashley.]])
** The writers prefer Sean/Emma. The fans [[Take That|(outside of the-n.com)]] prefer Sean/Ellie or [[Ensemble Darkhorse|Sean/Ash]]. Not surprisingly, Sean/Ellie was almost a [[Big Lipped Alligator Moment]]. It was mentioned again once, to establish Ellie's virginity. Sean/Ash was also a [[Big Lipped Alligator Moment]].
** The writers prefer Sean/Emma. The fans [[Take That|(outside of the-n.com)]] prefer Sean/Ellie or [[Ensemble Darkhorse|Sean/Ash]]. Not surprisingly, Sean/Ellie was almost a [[Non Sequitur Scene]]. It was mentioned again once, to establish Ellie's virginity. Sean/Ash was also a [[Non Sequitur Scene]].
** The writers also prefer Clare/Eli. This is clear from [[Spotlight-Stealing Squad|how much screen time they got in season 10]] [http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/b/bd/DegrassiSeason10DVD.JPG/225px-DegrassiSeason10DVD.JPG and they even took up the entire top portion of the season 10 cover.]
** The writers also prefer Clare/Eli. This is clear from [[Spotlight-Stealing Squad|how much screen time they got in season 10]] [http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/b/bd/DegrassiSeason10DVD.JPG/225px-DegrassiSeason10DVD.JPG and they even took up the entire top portion of the season 10 cover.]
* [[Good Troi Episode]]: Inverted. In seasons 1-4, fans loved Sean. Female fans thought he was hot, [[Misaimed Fandom|male fans]] identified with him more than any other guy, and everyone agreed he was the most three-dimensional character on the show. He wasn't in season 5. [[The Bus Came Back]] in season 6, and fans generally wondered "What the hell happened?"<br /><br />To wit, in season 6, Sean sees Emma dating Peter, Peter (in a [[Take That]] to aforementioned male fans) has a boy crush on Sean, Sean helps Emma cheat on Peter, Peter plants pot in Sean's locker, Sean challenges Peter to a race for revenge, Sean hits a guy, Jay tells Sean to run away, and Sean ultimately turns himself in. Emma can't believe Peter, the guy who filmed her best friend stripping and used it as blackmail, would frame Sean, until Peter admits to Sean he has access to all the locker combinations because his mom's the principal, and then it gets repeated back to Emma by Manny. Sean gets out early on good behaviour, moves in with Emma, learns Jay slept with Emma (well, not really...), and goes berserk. Then we get Emma making a PowerPoint of her making out with shirtless!Sean because she wants her stepdad to know she's having sex; it looks like Sean and Emma are friends with Peter again. At least Sean gets to be [[Badass]] after JT dies.
* [[Good Troi Episode]]: Inverted. In seasons 1-4, fans loved Sean. Female fans thought he was hot, [[Misaimed Fandom|male fans]] identified with him more than any other guy, and everyone agreed he was the most three-dimensional character on the show. He wasn't in season 5. [[The Bus Came Back]] in season 6, and fans generally wondered "What the hell happened?"

To wit, in season 6, Sean sees Emma dating Peter, Peter (in a [[Take That]] to aforementioned male fans) has a boy crush on Sean, Sean helps Emma cheat on Peter, Peter plants pot in Sean's locker, Sean challenges Peter to a race for revenge, Sean hits a guy, Jay tells Sean to run away, and Sean ultimately turns himself in. Emma can't believe Peter, the guy who filmed her best friend stripping and used it as blackmail, would frame Sean, until Peter admits to Sean he has access to all the locker combinations because his mom's the principal, and then it gets repeated back to Emma by Manny. Sean gets out early on good behaviour, moves in with Emma, learns Jay slept with Emma (well, not really...), and goes berserk. Then we get Emma making a PowerPoint of her making out with shirtless!Sean because she wants her stepdad to know she's having sex; it looks like Sean and Emma are friends with Peter again. At least Sean gets to be [[Badass]] after JT dies.
** An actual example would be [[Satellite Character|Hazel]]. Her only focus episode, Don't Believe The Hype, was incredibly well done compared to the usual sentence she gets twice a season and it remains a solid fan favorite.
** An actual example would be [[Satellite Character|Hazel]]. Her only focus episode, Don't Believe The Hype, was incredibly well done compared to the usual sentence she gets twice a season and it remains a solid fan favorite.
** Season 10 provides a lot of Good Sav episodes, when his A plots of previous seasons were lackluster.
** Season 10 provides a lot of Good Sav episodes, when his A plots of previous seasons were lackluster.
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* [[Funny Aneurysm Moment]]: In season 1, Jimmy takes Spinner's Ritalin as a performance-enhancing drug. While on it, he breaks Sean's leg. In season 4, Jimmy is shot by Rick (and loses the use of his legs), who is then shot (fatally) by Sean.
* [[Funny Aneurysm Moment]]: In season 1, Jimmy takes Spinner's Ritalin as a performance-enhancing drug. While on it, he breaks Sean's leg. In season 4, Jimmy is shot by Rick (and loses the use of his legs), who is then shot (fatally) by Sean.
* [[Germans Love David Hasselhoff]]: The show is ''very'' popular in the U.S., much more so than in its native Canada. The fact that the American market is so much more populous and lucrative gives the N a great deal of clout in the show's production, leading to frequent complaints by Canadian fans that the show is becoming increasingly [[Cultural Translation|Americanized]]. On the whole, though, Canadians stopped watching for a while; it was the lowest-rated show on [[CTV]], forcing a [[Channel Hop]] to cable. Essentially, American viewers kept the show alive until then.
* [[Germans Love David Hasselhoff]]: The show is ''very'' popular in the U.S., much more so than in its native Canada. The fact that the American market is so much more populous and lucrative gives the N a great deal of clout in the show's production, leading to frequent complaints by Canadian fans that the show is becoming increasingly [[Cultural Translation|Americanized]]. On the whole, though, Canadians stopped watching for a while; it was the lowest-rated show on [[CTV]], forcing a [[Channel Hop]] to cable. Essentially, American viewers kept the show alive until then.
** Since the channel hop, it's picked up in Canada. It's now MuchMusic's most popular show, and they consider it [[Adored by the Network|their flagship drama]]<ref>Yeah, partly because it's the only Canadian scripted drama they run, but still.</ref>, giving it [[Stealth Pun|much]] more of a publicity push than CTV did.
** Since the channel hop, it's picked up in Canada. It's now MuchMusic's most popular show, and they consider it [[Adored by the Network|their flagship drama]],<ref>Yeah, partly because it's the only Canadian scripted drama they run, but still.</ref> giving it [[Stealth Pun|much]] more of a publicity push than CTV did.
* [[Hollywood Homely]]: [[She Cleans Up Nicely|Clare]], Toby, [[She Cleans Up Nicely|Liberty]], Emma [[She's All Grown Up|(in the earlier seasons...)]]
* [[Hollywood Homely]]: [[She Cleans Up Nicely|Clare]], Toby, [[She Cleans Up Nicely|Liberty]], Emma [[She's All Grown Up|(in the earlier seasons...)]]
** You could count the entire cast as this, only Shenae Grimes, Landon Liboiron, and Nina Dobrev have gotten roles outside of Degrassi in the United States due to their mainstream conventional beauty.
** You could count the entire cast as this, only Shenae Grimes, Landon Liboiron, and Nina Dobrev have gotten roles outside of Degrassi in the United States due to their mainstream conventional beauty.
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* [[Moral Event Horizon]]: Usually subverted. From season 3 on, the [[Moral Event Horizon]] has its own [[Leitmotif]].
* [[Moral Event Horizon]]: Usually subverted. From season 3 on, the [[Moral Event Horizon]] has its own [[Leitmotif]].
** Fitz {{spoiler|almost}} knifing Eli.
** Fitz {{spoiler|almost}} knifing Eli.
** Owen: Even if throwing Adam through a window doesn't fall firmly in this trope, his almost rape of Alli does -- he tried to rape her after she decided not to take his offer to sleep with him for money.
** Owen: Even if throwing Adam through a window doesn't fall firmly in this trope, his almost rape of Alli does—he tried to rape her after she decided not to take his offer to sleep with him for money.
** Drew blackmailing Riley with threatening to out to him to the world and then gloating over gaybashing him and never apologizing or trying to make up for it. Also dating the girl that outed his trans brother and threatened to murder him. Also being friends with the guy who threw him into a glass door.
** Drew blackmailing Riley with threatening to out to him to the world and then gloating over gaybashing him and never apologizing or trying to make up for it. Also dating the girl that outed his trans brother and threatened to murder him. Also being friends with the guy who threw him into a glass door.
** Bianca ripping Adam's clothes off in the middle of the school, thereby outing him and then later even threating to murder him.
** Bianca ripping Adam's clothes off in the middle of the school, thereby outing him and then later even threating to murder him.