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** Suffocation isn't that agonizing.
** Suffocation isn't that agonizing.
*** Can't say I speak from experience, but supposedly air-hunger ''is'' extremely unpleasant. Though on the moon it would probably be over pretty quick.
*** Can't say I speak from experience, but supposedly air-hunger ''is'' extremely unpleasant. Though on the moon it would probably be over pretty quick.
** Gru made a moon rocket out of junk. I'm sure Vector's fabulously wealthy father could fling around enough cash to get a rescue rocket put together by that afternoon. Besides, again, it's a cartoon, you're supposed to see Vector being stuck on the moon as a funny, wacky punishment for him being a jerk, not a sentencing to a realistic and horrible death.
* Why weren't the dozen boogie robots at the end dance scene?
* Why weren't the dozen boogie robots at the end dance scene?
** Holy crap this so hard. I came here to post that.
** Holy crap this so hard. I came here to post that.
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* Gru asks one of the minions "How's the family?". ''Minions can have families?''
* Gru asks one of the minions "How's the family?". ''Minions can have families?''
** Well, since all of the minions are grown from the same DNA, and share a 'father' (Gru), they could be considered 'brothers' of each other. That or the minions are all assigned into arbitrary "family units" somehow.
** Well, since all of the minions are grown from the same DNA, and share a 'father' (Gru), they could be considered 'brothers' of each other. That or the minions are all assigned into arbitrary "family units" somehow.
*** Or they just group themselves into family units as they please. "Hey, you. I like you. You wanna be family? Yeah, there's this other minion that's having a hard time, he can be our kid."
* It's hard to say exactly what would happen if the moon were made to instantly disappear (an equivalent to the shrinking effect, because the mass went away along with the volume). Arguably, it's nonsensical to model such a situation without including a plausible cause for it. (For example, exactly what ''direct'' effect would something capable of destroying/pushing the moon have on Earth?) But here's what ''wouldn't'' happen: [[Physics Goof|waves instantly collapsing]]. '''Waves are not tides'''<ref>Tides are the gradual daily changes in sea levels, and the moon is just one of several factors that add to them. Waves are caused by plain ol' wind.</ref> and of course the loss of tides wouldn't be '''instantaneous'''. This one bothers me because of the perpetuation of that common conflation (tides are waves) and related misconception (the moon causes waves) — Even I held that last notion until writing this and researching! (I was originally just going to complain about the speed of the effect.)
* It's hard to say exactly what would happen if the moon were made to instantly disappear (an equivalent to the shrinking effect, because the mass went away along with the volume). Arguably, it's nonsensical to model such a situation without including a plausible cause for it. (For example, exactly what ''direct'' effect would something capable of destroying/pushing the moon have on Earth?) But here's what ''wouldn't'' happen: [[Physics Goof|waves instantly collapsing]]. '''Waves are not tides'''<ref>Tides are the gradual daily changes in sea levels, and the moon is just one of several factors that add to them. Waves are caused by plain ol' wind.</ref> and of course the loss of tides wouldn't be '''instantaneous'''. This one bothers me because of the perpetuation of that common conflation (tides are waves) and related misconception (the moon causes waves) — Even I held that last notion until writing this and researching! (I was originally just going to complain about the speed of the effect.)
** Addendum: In any case, the tides would be less of an immediate big deal than the (however slightly delayed) change in readings for all the various scientific instruments pointed at the moon. Why no footage of a humorously bewildered NASA?
** Addendum: In any case, the tides would be less of an immediate big deal than the (however slightly delayed) change in readings for all the various scientific instruments pointed at the moon. Why no footage of a humorously bewildered NASA?
** [[Angrish|SDGkdflghdosjghpdsfghing]] CARTOON!
* On this [http://www.nick.co.uk/a/despicable-me/characters.aspx character interview thing], Gru says the Minions are ''recyclable''. Just...''[[Fridge Horror|what?]]''
* On this [http://www.nick.co.uk/a/despicable-me/characters.aspx character interview thing], Gru says the Minions are ''recyclable''. Just...''[[Fridge Horror|what?]]''
** [[The Matrix|Watched them liquefy the dead so they can be fed intravenously to the living...]]
** [[The Matrix|Watched them liquefy the dead so they can be fed intravenously to the living...]]
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** Gru probably decided to just freeze ray the woman and take the girls back home. He may have rescued and love the girls, but that doesn't mean he's instantly turned into a saint. Guy freezes people so he doesn't have to deal with the annoyance of standing in line at the coffee shop, imagine what he'd do to someone keeping his kids from him.
** Gru probably decided to just freeze ray the woman and take the girls back home. He may have rescued and love the girls, but that doesn't mean he's instantly turned into a saint. Guy freezes people so he doesn't have to deal with the annoyance of standing in line at the coffee shop, imagine what he'd do to someone keeping his kids from him.
*** They still deliberately set this up as a source of conflict and then glossed over it, [[Unfortunate Implications|as though it was somehow obvious that he'd get his girls back the moment he decided he wanted them]]. Also, the question of whether Gru's association with these girls would make him into less of a bad guy was the whole point of the film, so it's sort of weak that they omitted the scene if he ''did'' just steal the girls back, because that would have actually been relevant to the question of exactly how reformed he really was by the end of the film.
*** They still deliberately set this up as a source of conflict and then glossed over it, [[Unfortunate Implications|as though it was somehow obvious that he'd get his girls back the moment he decided he wanted them]]. Also, the question of whether Gru's association with these girls would make him into less of a bad guy was the whole point of the film, so it's sort of weak that they omitted the scene if he ''did'' just steal the girls back, because that would have actually been relevant to the question of exactly how reformed he really was by the end of the film.
**** What the below comment says. However Gru accomplished getting them back, it would have been effectively impossible to make it as epic and stirring as Gru storming Vector's lair, which is as far as literary devices go his "winning them back" scene. Any scene dealing with the orphanage would have been, from a story perspective, superfluous and repetitive, even if it was in practice two distinct actions. You don't throw in scenes in movies just to satisfy nitpickers, that's not good writing.
** Avoiding [[Ending Fatigue]]
** Avoiding [[Ending Fatigue]]
* The orphans selling cookies thing is quite clearly a thing that the orphanage does to raise funds and whatnot - and yet Gru's big plan hinges on the girls selling cookies AFTER THEY ARE ADOPTED. WHAT THE HELL.
* The orphans selling cookies thing is quite clearly a thing that the orphanage does to raise funds and whatnot - and yet Gru's big plan hinges on the girls selling cookies AFTER THEY ARE ADOPTED. WHAT THE HELL.
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*** I was under the impression that they were delivering cookies he had already ordered from them the first time, when Gru saw them allowed in. Not selling new ones. Girl scouts don't drag around boxcars full of cookies, they have an order form, you order, they come back a week later.
*** I was under the impression that they were delivering cookies he had already ordered from them the first time, when Gru saw them allowed in. Not selling new ones. Girl scouts don't drag around boxcars full of cookies, they have an order form, you order, they come back a week later.
**** Really? When I was in Girl Guides, we had boxes of cookies to cart around.
**** Really? When I was in Girl Guides, we had boxes of cookies to cart around.
** Whether they join another group is kind of irrelevant, since them delivering the cookies Vector ordered (and yes some organizations do it that way) is part of Gru's plan, and it's Gru who gives them the cookies.
* Where is all the merchandising? I want my Minion toys dammit!
* Where is all the merchandising? I want my Minion toys dammit!
** I saw someone on WWF beat up someone with giant minion, so they are out there.
** I saw someone on WWF beat up someone with giant minion, so they are out there.
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** I thought they were on a timer, and Gru took too long.
** I thought they were on a timer, and Gru took too long.
** I just figured [[AI Is a Crapshoot|they were badly programmed]].
** I just figured [[AI Is a Crapshoot|they were badly programmed]].
*** Yup, they were made by the guy who heard "boogie robots" at first. And then there's the "dart gun" incident...
* According to the "Nefario Principle," it takes a shorter amount of time for bigger objects to regain their normal size. But the ship was the first thing to grow back, and the much-smaller Minion was the second. Huh?
* According to the "Nefario Principle," it takes a shorter amount of time for bigger objects to regain their normal size. But the ship was the first thing to grow back, and the much-smaller Minion was the second. Huh?
** The principle states that objects with greater mass return to normal size faster. The ship is obviously heavier than the Minion.
** The principle states that objects with greater mass return to normal size faster. The ship is obviously heavier than the Minion.
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* Who is Dr. Nefario, why is he there, [[Ho Yay|and why is a picture of him in a bathing suit on Gru's phone?]]
* Who is Dr. Nefario, why is he there, [[Ho Yay|and why is a picture of him in a bathing suit on Gru's phone?]]
** Dr. Nefario is some nearly senile, old, mad scientist that Gru probably hired a long time ago. As for the photo, that was probably a vacation photo that Gru thought was hilarious and wanted to be reminded of repeatedly. Heck, it was probably one of the few photos he had of the demented doctor.
** Dr. Nefario is some nearly senile, old, mad scientist that Gru probably hired a long time ago. As for the photo, that was probably a vacation photo that Gru thought was hilarious and wanted to be reminded of repeatedly. Heck, it was probably one of the few photos he had of the demented doctor.
*** Yeah, people keep silly photos of their friends all the time. Nefario's Gru's friend and father figure, him having a picture of Nefario at the beach isn't [[Ho Yay]] any more than someone having a photo of their family on their wall indicates that they have the proclivities of a [[Game of Thrones|Lannister]].


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