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** In the newest Terminator film, the last lines spoken are this trope to a T.

{{quote|'''John Connor:''' This battle has been won, but the war against the machines races on. Skynet's global network remains strong, but we will not quit, until all of it is destroyed.}}

* James T. Kirk in the 2009 ''[[Star Trek (film)|Star Trek]]'' movie fits this trope perfectly. He doesn't believe in no-win scenarios and is certainly one stubborn fellow once he sets his mind to accomplishing something, be it graduating from Starfleet Academy early, [[Taking a Third Option|finding a way to beat]] the supposedly unbeatable [[Unwinnable Training Simulation|Kobayashi Maru]], or stopping [[Ax Crazy|Nero]]. He takes more [[Butt Monkey|beat-downs]] than any other character and is consistently degraded or [[You Have to Believe Me|doubted]] by those around him, but keeps coming back for more in order to protect his homeworld. He is certainly not too worried about getting himself killed in the process, either.

** Kirk pretty much sums up his no-win scenario beliefs by saying, in regards to the Kobayashi Maru and many of his persistent actions, "It depends on how you define 'winning', doesn't it?"

* Carl Brashear in ''[[Men of Honor]]'' put up with bigotry, an insane instructor, and [[Handicapped Badass|losing his leg]] and was still unbowed.

* Captain Vidal in ''[[Pan's Labyrinth]]''. This makes him an utterly terrifying villain, while at the same time almost pitiable. ({{spoiler|In fact, when he got shot in the head, he actually had the time to feel it!}})

** [[Complete Monster|He's not pitiable at all]].

* The Black Knight from ''[[Monty Python and ~~The~~ Holy Grail]]'' - is actually a [[Deconstructive Parody]] of this, based on the old [[Stiff Upper Lip|British idea of never surrendering]], no matter what.

* The Black Knight from ''[[Monty Python and the Holy Grail]]'' - is actually a [[Deconstructive Parody]] of this, based on the old [[Stiff Upper Lip|British idea of never surrendering]], no matter what.

* Paul Newman's character Luke in the movie ''[[Cool Hand Luke]]'' is a perfect example of a Determinator. Acts of sheer determination include [[The Bet|eating fifty eggs in under an hour to win a bet]], multiple attempts to escape from jail, resisting the worst the warden could give him, and "winning" a boxing match by repeatedly getting up, no matter how many times he was knocked down, until his opponent, who was so far unharmed, refused to hit him any more. His nickname came from his habit of keeping going and refusing to quit when he has absolutely nothing - specifically, the time he won a poker game by bluffing.

{{quote|'''Dragline''': Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me -- with nothin'.

'''Luke''': Yeah well, sometimes nothing can be a real cool hand. }}

* Both Neo and Agent Smith of ''[[The Matrix]]'' are up there - Smith possibly even more so. During their final battle, Smith's [[Evil Cannot Comprehend Good|inability to understand]] Neo's refusal to stay down drives him out of his mind.

* [[Complete Monster|Anton Chigurh]] from ''[[No Country for Old Men]]'' has a belief system that revolves around this trope.

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* Steve Rogers, aka Captain America, in [[Captain America: The First Avenger]]. Much like his comics counterpart, the man does not know the meaning of the word "quit", whether he's being beat down by regular bullies or superhuman Nazi despots.

** Even when Steve's undergoing the [[Super Soldier]] transformation procedure, we have the staff telling Dr. Erskine to stop the experimentation, in fear of Steve potentially dying. However, Steve won't have any of that, actually ''yelling'' for the Doctor to keep going with it.

* Bud Fox, from ''[[Wall Street]],'' is definitely persistent in trying to work his way up the stockbrokers' world.