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* Orson leaving Bree in ''[[Desperate Housewives]]'' season 6 finale. I have always been a huge fan of the couple, yet I would have had no problem with them breaking up... if only it had been done in a decent way. First of all, it was a [[Ass Pull|half-assed stunt]] to [[Put on a Bus]] the [[Ensemble Darkhorse]] that made season 3 probably the best season ever and managed to go through a gratuitous [[Character Derailment]] remaining at least sympathetic. Secondly, the marriage, despite all the problems it had faced, had resolved in a valid [[Character Development]] for both and a moving [[Crowning Moment of Heartwarming]] in episode 6x14; but in few episodes, the writers had managed to spoil everything. Thirdly, Bree's behavior was utterly weak and illogical, given what Sam had to blackmail her. Seriously, what the hell? For me, [[Desperate Housewives]] ended with episode 6x15, before that stupid Sam-subplot started.
** What really irked me on Desperate Housewives was the last few episodes of this recent season. It's like the writers just got tired of having a subplot with Lynette in every episode, and so they set about just [[Character Derailment|destroying]] her character and Tom's character. We had to have so many episodes where the basic gist was "Tom is doing something, Lynette doesn't like it, Lynette does something against Tom's wishes, [[Sarcasm Mode|hilarity]] ensues, Tom lectures Lynette to be his own man and to respect his choices, and then the ending narration has shots of them tying back to the central theme of honesty or some bullshit". She had issues with him spending time on a new job, she hated being sidelined to extra activities at a business conference, she didn't like his ideas for decorating his office, and she didn't like that he picked their vacation without asking her. It got tiring and made me dislike her so much more. And now they are getting divorced! The one couple that through seven seasons of this show showed that they could stay together through unemployment, hostage situations, unknown love children, cancer, tornadoes, failed businesses, miscarriage, children getting arrested, kidnapping by murderers, and other problems would just suddenly be unable to reconcile and give up their marriage just annoys the hell out of me.
* The whole "I'm insulting your profession, but not you personally" bullshit in the Shindig episode of ''[[Firefly (TV series)|Firefly]]''. It's not like insulting the profession of someone who has great respect for that profession can be taken as a personal affront. It's not like insulting that profession can offend someone personally and it clearly did. And yet you're somehow considered to be better than the [[Designated Villain]] of the episode and will be entirely forgiven because you're Mal Reynolds, everyone's Han Solo self-insert fantasy with less than half the charm. It's a Dethroning Moment because it establishes in this situation that Mal will get away with and be completely absolved of absolutely anything anti-heroic he does, simply because he's the hero. Despite being such a douche, we're supposed to believe that Inara will bail him out for something he got himself into, that his blatant cheating will be accepted by the spectators in a duel that is supposed to have (albeit warped) honor, and that he can just walk away with his "space slut" on his arm that he treated like ass. You can argue that he was absolved because he "fought for her honor," but once we establish that his insults and Atherton's insults are [[Not So Different]], was it really anything more than territorial chest-thumping to establish superiority?
** Wordy word. How can Mal claim to respect Inara "the person" whilst simultaneously disrespecting her choices, her career, her freedom, and her privacy? How can Inara "the person" be separated from the things that make her that person?
** More word. Especially since it remains so unclear what Mal's beef with Inara's profession even is. He just keeps yelling "Whooooooore!!!" at her every chance he gets, but the man's a thief and a murderer - what the hell sort of position is he in to throw stones? Also, he seemed to get along just fine with a (non-Companion) prostitute in ''Heart of Gold'', which suggests that either a) he's fine with prostitutes, as long they know their place and don't try to deny that they're "whooooooooores!!!", or b) he's fine with any prostitute who he can hire, but he takes Inara's refusal to "service" the ''Serenity'' crew even as she keeps taking on outside clients as [[Sleeps with Everyone but You|an insult,]] and that makes him act out. The former would make him an entitled douchebag; the latter would make him a childish asshole. Neither particularly makes me want to watch a show about him.
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** That episode was just filled with ungodly bad writing. It got what was right and wrong entirely mixed up! [[Designated Villain|Stevie]] was supposedly wrong and "evil" for daring to rise up against the unfair Wizard Competition (along with others she'd recruited who felt the same way) so that all wizards can keep their magic powers and there'd be less broken wizard families like hers or the Russos around. [[Designated Hero|Alex]] was supposedly "doing the right thing" in [[Manipulative Bastard|using Stevie and pretending to still be her friend]] just so she can freeze her and transfer her powers back to her brother. And Justin was supposedly right in hamfistedly declaring that "Stevie is evil and is trying to overtake the entire wizard world" even though she never talked about doing anything of the sort, unless the wizard world is really shallow enough to be kept standing by one stupid competition and it's stupid rules. And Max, who actually wanted to take over the wizard world to be king and is the one who kills Stevie in the end, gets [[Karma Houdini|no punishment or acknowledgement of what he's done wrong.]] And no one cares that Stevie's dead; Alex even makes a joke out of it after Stevie shatters on her unconciouss brother! And before that, Alex flat out states that she thinks "people outside the Russos are better." Well, YEAH; this episode proves that in so many ways! This is a [[Dysfunctional Family]] of monsters! If the series had started it's downhill spiral at the start of the third season, this episode is defenitely what killed it.
** Originally, for me it was the ending of [[Wizards Vs Werewolves]]. However, the series finale is now even worse and essentially replaced the previous moment. Basically, its the same thing: It was a massive copout that bordered on Dues Ex Machina: Justin wins the wizard competition and earns the right to become a full wizard. But, he interupts the awarding of it by declaring he doesn't deserve it, because Alex stopped and came back to help him when he got stuck on a bush and helped him get out. So, he declares that she deserves it, but not him. But, so he'll have a happy ending, Professor Crumps announces he's retiring and appoints Justin his replacement, so that he can become a full wizard instead. Ok, [[Tranquil Fury|this infuriates me]]. 1) Since when did Justin ever think Alex deserves the right to be a full wizard? He's made it clear before he doesn't think she deserves magic because she always abuses it. Why? Because, she totally does! Alex is always being reclass and causing trouble with magic, to the point she comes off as a [[Designated Hero]]. But, because she saved him, he decides to change his opinion? Didn't he get really mad when others ignored all the bad she did to award her for saving the world once? 2) If they wanted to have Justin give up the power, why not just show the damn scene first instead of flashing back to it? Did they want to make it a plot twist? Well, too bad, they failed! Why didn't they just make it clear before what happened, or better yet, just let her win and give Justin another reason to be awarded the power by Crumps. 3) Why did she even have to win in the first place? Like I said, Alex is constantly abusing magic and causes all the trouble she gets into. Justin isn't [[Not So Different|always that much better]], but he's usually only such because Alex does something to set him off. Why not just let Justin win? Oh, because of her and Mason, the boyfriend she would have to break up with. But, he's an immortal werewolf who will apparently never grow up, Twilight Vampire style. She's going to get older, he's not, so eventually they'll have to break up. 4) The Crumps thing came completely out of nowhere. Why not announce at the begining he was retiring, or a few episodes ago and build up to it? This is the problem with Dues Ex Machina endings, they can easily be averted by hinting/forshadowing/building up to it. All in all, the ending was just lazily written.
* The ending of the ''[[CSI: Crime Scene Investigation]]'' episode "Fracked." The team thinks they've finally put together what's going on with the [[Complete Monster]] gas company (one of their employees was killing whistleblowers, then the company had the killer killed for [[You Have Outlived Your Usefulness|outliving his usefulness]]), when, out of nowhere {{spoiler|the sleazeball Undersheriff closes the investigation}}. Yeah, the episode was probably trying to make a point about the "untouchability" of corporations, but all it did was suck any sense of satisfaction out of an otherwise passable episode. I've even grown an [[Epileptic Trees|epileptic tree]] about this episode: {{spoiler|the Undersheriff was bribed.}}
** The ending of the episode where Langston and Lady Heather meet. This turns Langston's [[Crowning Moment of Awesome]] from a previous episode into nothing. Previously, Langston was able to turn the 'genetically predisposed to being a psychopath' theory on its ass by revealing that genetically and historically, he's a lot like Nate Heskel: He has the same gene and he had an abusive childhood, but he's still not a serial killer. That was an awesome moment. But then, in this episode, he confesses to Lady Heather that he feels 'a monster' inside of him, and feels he needs to kill Nate. Ok, so, you give a middle finger to a previous episode's very awesome ending by making it clear that actually, he is really a serial killer waiting to happen. Great way to make it apparent that being a [[Complete Monster]] isn't by choice writers. What makes it more infuriating, was that the previous moment was what saved Langston from being my least favourite character, so not only do they remove an awesome moments credability, they remove the one thing I liked about Langston.
* The most recent episode of ''The Office'',and that's saying something after the [[Crowning Moment of Heartwarming|CMOH]] wrap up of Michael's departure with Deangelo being [[Flanderized]] into a [[Jerkass]] and then cruelly let off before we really know anything,then Dwight taking over only to be once again be ousted,instead of going with it for a while. Those moments were embarrassing but compared to the interviews special for the new manager that's nothing. First,it's riddled with [[Celebrity Guest Stars]] who seem out of place all vying for the new position which slowed down the usual pace,the jokes weren't funny at all especially not Warren Buffett.But then the main story of the interviews was hampered by not only too many people,but the Gabe plot tumor trying to get Erin back and make everyone miserable to do so,which leads to massive [[Character Derailment]] to manipulating Kelly which backfires and gets him [[Put on a Bus]].Then you have the "Angela's Boyfriend is gay" subplot which also took away,wasn't funny and frankly just made a huge [[Kick the Dog]] even too much for Angela.And none of it was well executed,with awkward transitions littered here and there,and why did [[Jim Carrey]] get the last line? Everything imaginable went wrong "Search Committee" and not even Creed's [[Large Ham]] could've saved it.It sucks that Deangelo got axed so quickly for this.
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* "Advanced Dungeons and Dragons" from [[Community]]. I haven't completely seen Season 2, but so far this is Pierce's worst moment. Imagine if [[My Little Pony Friendship Is Magic S 1 E 25 Party Of One|Party of One]] was done by Pikie Pie being a dillhole to someother pony instead of the main plot. In it, Pierce doesn't get invited to a Dungeons and Dragons game by Jeff to cheer up a possibly suicidal classmate named "Fat Neil" [[Fridge Logic|who the narrotor keeps calling him]]. Pierce's D&D character steals Neil's sword he worked hard for and wipes his privates on it and humps it and loads over that Neil has no friends and is fat. This, as someone who got bullied, a very painful experience and wanted to knock that fucking asshole's teeth out.
** I second that, Pierce is supposed to be a dick but he is just so cartoonishly, pointlessly evil in this episode it just throws everything out of order. The series had been building towards a real low moment for Pierce but seemed to jump ahead another six episodes worth of developement in this episode. It makes his behaviour in Celebrity Pharmacology seem reasonable and to an extent it was. He was obviously just desperate for attention and the addiction was messing with his head, hence the teaching kids bad lessons and paying off Annie. Please correct me if I'm wrong since I haven't seen it in a while but he seemed to redeem himself in the end of Celebrity Pharmacology making this derailment far worse.
* The ''[[CSI: Crime Scene Investigation]]'' episode "Sounds of Silence," featured Sara and Warrick being unforgiveably - and uncharacteristically - rude to a deaf person in the course of their investigation. You could cite ignorance of the deaf community as one of the factors, but it's just simple courtesy to not ignore the person you're talking to in favor of the translator (and you'd think the translator would at least make them aware of this before they started their interview). The whole situation seemed to be designed purely as a setup for the reveal that Grissom knows sign language, and it just seemed like there could have been a better way to do it other than having our characters pick up an [[Idiot Ball]].
* The ''[[Boston Legal]]'' episode where Denny shoots a homeless guy with a paintball gun. Yeah, he was [[What the Hell, Hero?|called on it repeatedly]], but the willful jump from "[[Crazy Awesome|loveable nut]]" to "[[Jerkass|smug, unrepentant asswipe]]" was jarring.
* I know it's rather odd seeing a [[Disney Channel]] show being on this page, but this troper recently watched an [[A.N.T. Farm]] episode that pretty much made this troper give up on [[Disney Channel]] completely. In the new episode PatANT, the [[Alpha Bitch]] of the show goes through a "Boy Who Cried Wolf plot" pretending to be hurt and everybody believed it. But in the end, she actually does break her legs. So what does the cast do? [[Kick the Dog|They just fucking leave her there, now not believing her.]] Holy hell, Disney, I know she was an [[Alpha Bitch]], but come the fuck on! That's just fucking harsh, even for a Disney Channel show. [[What Happened to the Mouse?|And did I mention that this is the last we see of her, which means we don't know what happens to her?]] They were trying to force us to think she deserved it, but it's just [[Disproportionate Retribution]], plain and simple. It's just sad how Disney Channel went from teaching life lessons to sadistic comedy like this on their shows.
* Now normally I like [[Tosh.0]], I understand the humor etc... But in the 4th Season episode. Where Daniel takes the $24000+ that he made auctioning off all the memorabilia from his show, and rather than donate it to Charity or something like that. He proceeds to blow it all on one hand of Blackjack in Vegas. And then he has the nerve to make a joke about it. Now I understand it's a comedy show, and the people who paid in that auction expected to see him do something stupid with the money... But for me, it just seemed like a giant middle finger to people who could have put that money to good use.
* The [[FOX]] 25th Anniversary Special was a Dethroning Moment for the Fox Network. I will admit that parts of it were quite nice, including the Fox Sports segment; and I liked that ''[[Firefly (TV series)|Firefly]]'', ''[[Dollhouse]]'', and ''[[The Sarah Connor Chronicles]]'' each got a [[Shout-Out]] for their respective fanbases. That said, long-running Fox shows such as ''[[Malcolm in the Middle]]'', ''[[King of the Hill]]'', ''[[COPS (series)|COPS]]'', ''[[America's Most Wanted]]'', and ''[[Mad TV]]'' each got VERY minimal screentime; and they didn't even mention favorites like ''[[Parker Lewis Can't Lose]]'' or ''[[Futurama]]'' (each of which had three seasons on Fox), despite showing clips from a TON of reality shows cancelled after only one season.<ref>I almost complained about the lack of [[Fox Kids]] recognition, including the failure to recognize what a boon ''[[Mighty Morphin Power Rangers]]'' was for the network, but then I remembered that other companies now own most of those shows, and it would have been legal hell if Fox had mentioned the block.</ref>
* [[How I Met Your Mother|How I Met Your Mother's]] seventh season finale "The Magician's Code". It's bad enough they went with the safe route and revealed Barney & Robin would end up together despite spending the entire episode building up his relationship with Quinn. But then there's what they do with Ted. He calls Victoria again to attempt tying up that loose end, she happens to be in the city and she shows up wearing a wedding dress. Victoria then says they should run away together, and as they're driving Ted tells her no as he was once left at the alter. BUT THEN he decides "ah screw it" and runs away with her anyway. God damn it writers! Do you learn nothing?
* The seventh season finale of [[Bones]] was wall-bangingly ludricous. I won't even go into how the evil genius super-hacker serial killer Pelant is somehow able to thoroughly screw Brennan and everyone else around her using the ''bar codes from library books''. Pelant knows things and does things he simply should not be able to do. In that, they're physically and technologically impossible. He's beyond [[Crazy Prepared]]; he's impossibly prepared. He's able to effortlessly exploit every flaw in the legal system to turn it against the heroes, despite the heroes's track record of trustworthiness, and despite the fact that he's a convicted felon who doesn't even own a computer. NO ONE is that smart. Or that prepared. Max's speech about "the system" comes dangerously close to some kind of Anti-Establishment [[Writer on Board]] speech. The entire premise of the episode seems designed to prove that the system is evil, you can't win against it, and the only solution is to chuck it all and run.