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* [[Alexoftheworld]]: The premiere episode of season 22 is what got me off the series entirely. The Glee cast was guest starring, so I thought: Maybe this'll be an interesting episode. Unfortunately, this episode wasn't the least bit exciting. Lisa's plot about the performing arts camp was stupid. I mean, if she wants to be creative and artsy, why doesn't she just play her saxophone? Bart and Homer's subplot was just boring and dry, causing me to skip over it. To make matters worse, the Glee cast only appears for a few scenes. Fox, here's a tip; if you're going to hype someone up to be on a show, give them something to do.
* [[Alexoftheworld]]: The premiere episode of season 22 is what got me off the series entirely. The Glee cast was guest starring, so I thought: Maybe this'll be an interesting episode. Unfortunately, this episode wasn't the least bit exciting. Lisa's plot about the performing arts camp was stupid. I mean, if she wants to be creative and artsy, why doesn't she just play her saxophone? Bart and Homer's subplot was just boring and dry, causing me to skip over it. To make matters worse, the Glee cast only appears for a few scenes. Fox, here's a tip; if you're going to hype someone up to be on a show, give them something to do.
** [[Tropers/Blackbird Mizu|Blackbird Mizu]]: That was a big problem with the episode. The hyping up of the Glee cast guest star, combined with the episode title (''Elementary School Musical'') implied a musical episode, possibly parodying Glee or [[High School Musical]]. But no, they get about ten seconds of screentime, which made it painfully obvious that FOX was just trying to get people to watch [[The Simpsons]] using the popularity of their newest big-hit show. It was just as bad with [[The Cleveland Show]] where the Glee cast got hyped up in the promos yet got even less screentime than they did in this Simpsons episode, if you can believe that.
** [[Tropers/Blackbird Mizu|Blackbird Mizu]]: That was a big problem with the episode. The hyping up of the Glee cast guest star, combined with the episode title (''Elementary School Musical'') implied a musical episode, possibly parodying Glee or [[High School Musical]]. But no, they get about ten seconds of screentime, which made it painfully obvious that FOX was just trying to get people to watch [[The Simpsons]] using the popularity of their newest big-hit show. It was just as bad with [[The Cleveland Show]] where the Glee cast got hyped up in the promos yet got even less screentime than they did in this Simpsons episode, if you can believe that.
*** Astfgl: [[Arson Murder and Jaywalking|And there's the fact that the promos ignored]] [[Flight of the Conchords|the ''other'' guest stars]], who actually had an active role in the plot.
*** Astfgl: [[Arson, Murder, and Jaywalking|And there's the fact that the promos ignored]] [[Flight of the Conchords|the ''other'' guest stars]], who actually had an active role in the plot.
* ''[[Tropers/Philipthepatsy|Philipthepatsy]]'': "Alone Again, Natura-Diddily". {{spoiler|Maude}} [[Tonight Someone Dies|dies in a horrific, over the top manner]], leaving poor {{spoiler|Ned}} a wreck. Add on that the episode itself wasn't very funny, and you've got one of the most depressing episodes of the series.
* ''[[Tropers/Philipthepatsy|Philipthepatsy]]'': "Alone Again, Natura-Diddily". {{spoiler|Maude}} [[Tonight Someone Dies|dies in a horrific, over the top manner]], leaving poor {{spoiler|Ned}} a wreck. Add on that the episode itself wasn't very funny, and you've got one of the most depressing episodes of the series.
** [[Tropers/Olfin Bedwere|Olfin Bedwere]]: What really propelled this episode into Dethroning Moment territory wasn't so much the fact that {{spoiler|Maude}} died. After all, the episode where {{spoiler|Bleeding Gums Murphy}} died was handled beautifully, and you'd think the series would be able to do an even better job with a semi-regular character. But no -- they took that setup and turned it into an episode about Homer setting up {{spoiler|Ned}} with a series of wacky and horrible new girlfriends. I almost hope the writers made this episode as a [[Take That]] towards {{spoiler|Maude's voice actress Maggie Roswell}}, because I simply can't imagine why on earth they would think it was a good idea to kill off {{spoiler|Maude}} and then gloss over her death in favor of comedic shenanigans involving Homer.
** [[Tropers/Olfin Bedwere|Olfin Bedwere]]: What really propelled this episode into Dethroning Moment territory wasn't so much the fact that {{spoiler|Maude}} died. After all, the episode where {{spoiler|Bleeding Gums Murphy}} died was handled beautifully, and you'd think the series would be able to do an even better job with a semi-regular character. But no -- they took that setup and turned it into an episode about Homer setting up {{spoiler|Ned}} with a series of wacky and horrible new girlfriends. I almost hope the writers made this episode as a [[Take That]] towards {{spoiler|Maude's voice actress Maggie Roswell}}, because I simply can't imagine why on earth they would think it was a good idea to kill off {{spoiler|Maude}} and then gloss over her death in favor of comedic shenanigans involving Homer.
* [[Tropers/Demetrios|Demetrios]]: "The Seven-Beer Snitch". For me, this was the episode that pretty much signaled [[Jumping the Shark|the shark was nearby]]. It had a few good laughs here and there (even though it hit us over the head with [[Were Still Relevant Dammit]]), but I'm afraid [[Batman Forever (Film)|it just raised too many questions]]. And these are them: How do you turn a weirdly shaped concert hall into a prison? How come Homer's friends and acquaintances were able to get prison warden jobs just like that? How come they shaved Homer's head even though he has very little hair to begin with? How come the [[Genre Savvy|law and order savvy]] Lisa didn't come to her father's rescue? How come Bart was so dumb in this episode? And who green-lit this episode? Don't get me wrong; I like the zany humor the Simpsons are famous for, but there are [[Even Nerds Have Standards|limits]].
* [[Tropers/Demetrios|Demetrios]]: "The Seven-Beer Snitch". For me, this was the episode that pretty much signaled [[Jumping the Shark|the shark was nearby]]. It had a few good laughs here and there (even though it hit us over the head with [[Were Still Relevant Dammit]]), but I'm afraid [[Batman Forever (Film)|it just raised too many questions]]. And these are them: How do you turn a weirdly shaped concert hall into a prison? How come Homer's friends and acquaintances were able to get prison warden jobs just like that? How come they shaved Homer's head even though he has very little hair to begin with? How come the [[Genre Savvy|law and order savvy]] Lisa didn't come to her father's rescue? How come Bart was so dumb in this episode? And who green-lit this episode? Don't get me wrong; I like the zany humor the Simpsons are famous for, but there are [[Even Nerds Have Standards|limits]].
* [[Tropers/Thormy|Thormy]]: ''E-I-E-I-(Annoyed Grunt)'': The plot itself is pretty funny, but after a while you realize that Homer never used to be ''that stupid''. [[Fridge Horror|Soon enough he'll need a wheelchair in]] [[Flanderization|season 25.]]
* [[Tropers/Thormy|Thormy]]: ''E-I-E-I-(Annoyed Grunt)'': The plot itself is pretty funny, but after a while you realize that Homer never used to be ''that stupid''. [[Fridge Horror|Soon enough he'll need a wheelchair in]] [[Flanderization|season 25.]]
* [[Tropers/Thirty Two Footsteps|32_Footsteps]]: "Homer vs. Dignity". The infamous scene in which [[But You Screw One Goat|Homer is anally raped by a panda bear]]. Not that the rest of the episode was any better ([[The Other Wiki]] even notes on the page for it that it's often considered [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homer_vs._Dignity one of the show's worst episodes]), but that one scene made me so disgusted that I can't even go back to watch classics from the 90's, let alone anything made since.
* [[Tropers/Thirty Two Footsteps|32_Footsteps]]: "Homer vs. Dignity". The infamous scene in which [[But You Screw One Goat!|Homer is anally raped by a panda bear]]. Not that the rest of the episode was any better ([[The Other Wiki]] even notes on the page for it that it's often considered [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homer_vs._Dignity one of the show's worst episodes]), but that one scene made me so disgusted that I can't even go back to watch classics from the 90's, let alone anything made since.
* [[Tropers/Monsund|Monsund]] While most of the Homer getting mutilated jokes in the later seasons were pretty bad, Homer getting his intestines ripped out by a badger in "A Tale Of Two Springfields" was just the worst in [[Tropers/Monsund|my opinion]]. This isn't [[South Park]] or [[Family Guy]] where characters can be messily killed only to come back later, Homer isn't [[They Killed Kenny|Kenny]], the regular episodes of the Simpsons are supposed to have some basis in reality. Keep the [[Happy Tree Friends]] [[Trope Namer|type]] [[Death As Comedy|humor]] in [[The Itchy and Scratchy Show]] and [[Treehouse of Horror]], don't let it [[Visual Pun|bleed into]] [[Canon|the actual plot]]. I feel bad that [[The Who]] showed up in such an awful episode.
* [[Tropers/Monsund|Monsund]] While most of the Homer getting mutilated jokes in the later seasons were pretty bad, Homer getting his intestines ripped out by a badger in "A Tale Of Two Springfields" was just the worst in [[Tropers/Monsund|my opinion]]. This isn't [[South Park]] or [[Family Guy]] where characters can be messily killed only to come back later, Homer isn't [[They Killed Kenny|Kenny]], the regular episodes of the Simpsons are supposed to have some basis in reality. Keep the [[Happy Tree Friends]] [[Trope Namer|type]] [[Death As Comedy|humor]] in [[The Itchy and Scratchy Show]] and [[Treehouse of Horror]], don't let it [[Visual Pun|bleed into]] [[Canon|the actual plot]]. I feel bad that [[The Who]] showed up in such an awful episode.
* [[Tropers/Fox Trax|Fox Trax]]: Okay, that's enough new stuff, let's dive into season 3! In "I Married Marge", after Homer gives a rather stirring speech about his 3 kids and how he loves them, I actually felt touched. However, it just got flat-out obliterated by the next sentence! When Marge returns from her pregnancy test, she happily reveals that she is not pregnant, and she and Homer high-five, thus saying "fuck you" to the kids he was "blessed" with! [[Jerkass|Jerkasses]] much?
* [[Tropers/Fox Trax|Fox Trax]]: Okay, that's enough new stuff, let's dive into season 3! In "I Married Marge", after Homer gives a rather stirring speech about his 3 kids and how he loves them, I actually felt touched. However, it just got flat-out obliterated by the next sentence! When Marge returns from her pregnancy test, she happily reveals that she is not pregnant, and she and Homer high-five, thus saying "fuck you" to the kids he was "blessed" with! [[Jerkass|Jerkasses]] much?
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** [[Tropers/Furi Kuri|Furi Kuri]]: The problem is that, while I've never seen Flight of the Concords, it's obviously that the stars have a widely different sense of humor than The Simpsons does. It just doesn't work.
** [[Tropers/Furi Kuri|Furi Kuri]]: The problem is that, while I've never seen Flight of the Concords, it's obviously that the stars have a widely different sense of humor than The Simpsons does. It just doesn't work.
* [[Tropers/Extreme Dinosaur|Extreme Dinosaur]]: In "A Star is Torn", the family is in the Farmer's Market picking up organic food. When they're convinced to have it as dinner, Marge picks on up saying the cringingly bad line "Broccoli, you've just been promoted from side-dish to entree!", cue a very bad attempt at an Adam West [[Batman]] parody complete with a badly angled camera zooming out of from the very top of the dining family making the entire gag incredibly cringe worthy in its forced humor and awkward.
* [[Tropers/Extreme Dinosaur|Extreme Dinosaur]]: In "A Star is Torn", the family is in the Farmer's Market picking up organic food. When they're convinced to have it as dinner, Marge picks on up saying the cringingly bad line "Broccoli, you've just been promoted from side-dish to entree!", cue a very bad attempt at an Adam West [[Batman]] parody complete with a badly angled camera zooming out of from the very top of the dining family making the entire gag incredibly cringe worthy in its forced humor and awkward.
* [[Tropers/The Chain Man|The Chain Man]]: I have heard quite a few times Lisa was a [[Creators Pet]], and I though these people were exaggerating, until I got to watch ''"Million Dollar Abie"''. So Grandpa becomes a bullfighter and Lisa, [[Sarcasm Mode|surprisingly]], protests because that means he's murdering poor, defenseless bulls. So what does Grandpa do? Frees the bulls and lets them run wild on the city, San Fermin-style. The bulls wreck the city and hurt, kill and maim lots of innocent people and Luigi, but they aren't getting killed, so Lisa is happy! Didn't they use to lampshade this kind of ending rather than play it straight?
* [[Tropers/The Chain Man|The Chain Man]]: I have heard quite a few times Lisa was a [[Creator's Pet]], and I though these people were exaggerating, until I got to watch ''"Million Dollar Abie"''. So Grandpa becomes a bullfighter and Lisa, [[Sarcasm Mode|surprisingly]], protests because that means he's murdering poor, defenseless bulls. So what does Grandpa do? Frees the bulls and lets them run wild on the city, San Fermin-style. The bulls wreck the city and hurt, kill and maim lots of innocent people and Luigi, but they aren't getting killed, so Lisa is happy! Didn't they use to lampshade this kind of ending rather than play it straight?
** Tropers/Emperordaein: What? No mention about the rest of the episode? It was essentially a Prototype Boys of Bummer, just replace Bart with Grandpa. So we get scenes like Firemen tossing him into a burning building, and a tasteless Ipod/Suicide Machine joke (A DIEPod. Ha Ha Ha.). That episode truly made me feel miserable after watching it.
** Tropers/Emperordaein: What? No mention about the rest of the episode? It was essentially a Prototype Boys of Bummer, just replace Bart with Grandpa. So we get scenes like Firemen tossing him into a burning building, and a tasteless Ipod/Suicide Machine joke (A DIEPod. Ha Ha Ha.). That episode truly made me feel miserable after watching it.
** Tropers/madhaxman. To me, the biggest problem with that wasn't the ending, it was Lisa's line about always supporting her grandpa. Abe has been the butt of all jokes for the family since the show's early days, Lisa included (minus an episode or two). They could have at least given us a scene between Abe and Lisa earlier on in the episode, but as it is, it just comes off as Lisa using emotional blackmail, and taking an episode that was focused on Grandpa and made it about herself.
** Tropers/madhaxman. To me, the biggest problem with that wasn't the ending, it was Lisa's line about always supporting her grandpa. Abe has been the butt of all jokes for the family since the show's early days, Lisa included (minus an episode or two). They could have at least given us a scene between Abe and Lisa earlier on in the episode, but as it is, it just comes off as Lisa using emotional blackmail, and taking an episode that was focused on Grandpa and made it about herself.
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'''Comic Book Guy:''' Worst. Episode. Ever. }}
'''Comic Book Guy:''' Worst. Episode. Ever. }}
** The show wouldn't be the [[Cash Cow Franchise]] it is today without its fans, who are exposed to the ad-breaks that fund the show's initial run and who loyally purchase the DVDs, comics and other merchandise. The above dialogue is a disingenuous and ungrateful statement that downplays the fans' role in the show's success and its history, and as a stab at [[Unpleasable Fanbase|critics of]] [[Seasonal Rot|recent episodes']] perceived decline in quality, accuses them of [[Complaining About Things You Haven't Paid For|not being in a position to criticize a "free" TV show]].
** The show wouldn't be the [[Cash Cow Franchise]] it is today without its fans, who are exposed to the ad-breaks that fund the show's initial run and who loyally purchase the DVDs, comics and other merchandise. The above dialogue is a disingenuous and ungrateful statement that downplays the fans' role in the show's success and its history, and as a stab at [[Unpleasable Fanbase|critics of]] [[Seasonal Rot|recent episodes']] perceived decline in quality, accuses them of [[Complaining About Things You Haven't Paid For|not being in a position to criticize a "free" TV show]].
* [[Tropers/Kirant|Kirant]] - The Scorpion's Tale... I'm not sure what Herzog and Richardson, the guest writers, where thinking in a story where [[Nightmare Fuel|eyeballs falling out of their sockets]] would [[Dude Not Funny|be funny and fuel a storyline]]. I mean, I'm fine with the Halloween episodes, but holy crap that's a terrifying to even conceive, let alone make into a comedy.
* [[Tropers/Kirant|Kirant]] - The Scorpion's Tale... I'm not sure what Herzog and Richardson, the guest writers, where thinking in a story where [[Nightmare Fuel|eyeballs falling out of their sockets]] would [[Dude, Not Funny|be funny and fuel a storyline]]. I mean, I'm fine with the Halloween episodes, but holy crap that's a terrifying to even conceive, let alone make into a comedy.
* [[Tropers/This Is Madness 91|This Is Madness 91]]: For a long time I felt that the quality of the show was in decline, but I recently saw "Love Is a Many Strangled Thing" and loathed it more than any episode I've seen for a long time. After tickling Bart so much that he causes him to wet himself in public (and leads other countries to laugh at America because of it), Homer is enrolled in a father enrichment class, and shocks the doctor teaching the class when he reveals how often he strangles his son. The doctor brings in Kareem Abdul-Jabaar to routinely strangle Homer and teach him what it feels like to be Bart in those situations. Homer swears never to strangle Bart again, which leads to Bart taking advantage of this and causing as much trouble as he can. Marge asks the doctor (who has now ended up homeless for reasons I can't quite remember...probably a political joke or something) to try and patch things up between them. Bart pushes the doctor to his limit, causing the doctor to strangle him personally. Homer and Bart then sue him for what little he has left (which is all kept in a hollowed-out tree), and pat themselves on the back for ruining his life. [[Sarcasm Mode|Enjoy your happy ending, people!]]
* [[Tropers/This Is Madness 91|This Is Madness 91]]: For a long time I felt that the quality of the show was in decline, but I recently saw "Love Is a Many Strangled Thing" and loathed it more than any episode I've seen for a long time. After tickling Bart so much that he causes him to wet himself in public (and leads other countries to laugh at America because of it), Homer is enrolled in a father enrichment class, and shocks the doctor teaching the class when he reveals how often he strangles his son. The doctor brings in Kareem Abdul-Jabaar to routinely strangle Homer and teach him what it feels like to be Bart in those situations. Homer swears never to strangle Bart again, which leads to Bart taking advantage of this and causing as much trouble as he can. Marge asks the doctor (who has now ended up homeless for reasons I can't quite remember...probably a political joke or something) to try and patch things up between them. Bart pushes the doctor to his limit, causing the doctor to strangle him personally. Homer and Bart then sue him for what little he has left (which is all kept in a hollowed-out tree), and pat themselves on the back for ruining his life. [[Sarcasm Mode|Enjoy your happy ending, people!]]
* ''[[Tropers/terlwyth|terlwyth]]'': This troper just saw the episode "It's A Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad Marge" again and hated it with the big waste of a character for Otto who predictably chose heavy metal over his fiancee which was the beginning of Flanderization for Otto, Marge feels pity and lets her stay, which began many horrible plots in later seasons. Then after that, Marge suddenly goes [[Out of Character]] and becomes [[Clingy Jealous Girl|a jealous wife]], which escalates into her trying to kill said fiancee, and she has to be arrested. Then at the end,it turned out Marge [[Cassandra Truth|was right]] and she goes crazy again, when suddenly, some doctors appear and blow tranquilizing darts into her neck, and Homer helps, thankinf the doctors. After being established as a loving, but bumbling husband, this is what Homer does now? And there wasn't a subplot.
* ''[[Tropers/terlwyth|terlwyth]]'': This troper just saw the episode "It's A Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad Marge" again and hated it with the big waste of a character for Otto who predictably chose heavy metal over his fiancee which was the beginning of Flanderization for Otto, Marge feels pity and lets her stay, which began many horrible plots in later seasons. Then after that, Marge suddenly goes [[Out of Character]] and becomes [[Clingy Jealous Girl|a jealous wife]], which escalates into her trying to kill said fiancee, and she has to be arrested. Then at the end,it turned out Marge [[Cassandra Truth|was right]] and she goes crazy again, when suddenly, some doctors appear and blow tranquilizing darts into her neck, and Homer helps, thankinf the doctors. After being established as a loving, but bumbling husband, this is what Homer does now? And there wasn't a subplot.
** ''[[Tropers/AB Lb 0 y|AB Lb 0 y]] Just a minor thing, but the thing that pissed me off most about that episode was the fact Otto's fiance' has a hissy fit at him inviting Poison to play at their wedding. [[Sarcasm Mode|Yes, because noone wants Poison to play at their wedding. The thought is just absurd.]]
** ''[[Tropers/AB Lb 0 y|AB Lb 0 y]] Just a minor thing, but the thing that pissed me off most about that episode was the fact Otto's fiance' has a hissy fit at him inviting Poison to play at their wedding. [[Sarcasm Mode|Yes, because noone wants Poison to play at their wedding. The thought is just absurd.]]
* ''[[Tropers/Steven|Steven]]'': ''Mypods and Broomsticks'', the episode that involves a small Muslim family moving near the Simpson family and Bart becomes friends with the boy in the family. Everyone already knows how ignorant and stupid Homer has been for years, but does it really justify Homer believing that the family are freaking terrorists, based on their religion and the silly stereotypes dramas play on TV? This was just sinking to a low beyond any level that existed.
* ''[[Tropers/Steven|Steven]]'': ''Mypods and Broomsticks'', the episode that involves a small Muslim family moving near the Simpson family and Bart becomes friends with the boy in the family. Everyone already knows how ignorant and stupid Homer has been for years, but does it really justify Homer believing that the family are freaking terrorists, based on their religion and the silly stereotypes dramas play on TV? This was just sinking to a low beyond any level that existed.
** ''[[Tropers/Space Core The Dalek|Space Core The Dalek]]'': While the previously mentioned plot about the Muslim family wasn't great, one of the reasons that I don't watch any of the new Simpsons episodes is because of the episode's other plot. It involves [[Creators Pet|Lisa]] getting a new "MyPhone" from "Mapple", which is run by Steve Mobs ([[My Immortal|geddit?]]). It's just a bunch of stale, bland, unfunny pop-culture references. This episode is pretty much just the boring epitome of [[Were Still Relevant Dammit|"We're Still Relevant, Dammit!" ]]
** ''[[Tropers/Space Core The Dalek|Space Core The Dalek]]'': While the previously mentioned plot about the Muslim family wasn't great, one of the reasons that I don't watch any of the new Simpsons episodes is because of the episode's other plot. It involves [[Creator's Pet|Lisa]] getting a new "MyPhone" from "Mapple", which is run by Steve Mobs ([[My Immortal|geddit?]]). It's just a bunch of stale, bland, unfunny pop-culture references. This episode is pretty much just the boring epitome of [[Were Still Relevant Dammit|"We're Still Relevant, Dammit!" ]]
* ''[[Tropers/On Soaring Wings|On Soaring Wings]]'': "Million Dollar Maybe," the one with a subplot where Lisa buys a Nintendo Wii for Grandpa and the other people at the Retirement Home. As a result of playing the Wii they start to get more energetic and demanding. So the [[Jerkass]] employees there [[Moral Event Horizon|"destroy it to make their own jobs easier"]]. When Lisa calls them out on this they coldly tell her off, and then... Nothing! That's it! The subplot is dropped leaving a message of "Hey old people, this is what you have to look forward to, fuck you." I have never been able to enjoy a recent Simpsons episode since.
* ''[[Tropers/On Soaring Wings|On Soaring Wings]]'': "Million Dollar Maybe," the one with a subplot where Lisa buys a Nintendo Wii for Grandpa and the other people at the Retirement Home. As a result of playing the Wii they start to get more energetic and demanding. So the [[Jerkass]] employees there [[Moral Event Horizon|"destroy it to make their own jobs easier"]]. When Lisa calls them out on this they coldly tell her off, and then... Nothing! That's it! The subplot is dropped leaving a message of "Hey old people, this is what you have to look forward to, fuck you." I have never been able to enjoy a recent Simpsons episode since.
* ''[[Tropers/Capretty|Capretty]]'': A lot of people hate ''That '90s Show'' because it fucks with canon, but I hate it because it made me unbearably angry with Marge. In the flashback we are shown that Homer worked a job he hated so that he could support Marge and pay for her to attend college. How does Marge repay him for this unbelievable kindness? She belittles him, pretty much cheats on him and then dumps him for her tool of a professor because "he embarrasses her". Now she does see the error of her ways but she only returns to him after he becomes a rich and successful musician so we get the [[Unfortunate Implications]] that that's the only reason she is returning. Now Homer Simpson is far from a perfect husband but he has made it clear over and over again that he loves Marge more than anything and this episode was the first I ever questioned what does he see in her? You know you've made someone unlikeable when Homer comes across as more mature and responsible than them.
* ''[[Tropers/Capretty|Capretty]]'': A lot of people hate ''That '90s Show'' because it fucks with canon, but I hate it because it made me unbearably angry with Marge. In the flashback we are shown that Homer worked a job he hated so that he could support Marge and pay for her to attend college. How does Marge repay him for this unbelievable kindness? She belittles him, pretty much cheats on him and then dumps him for her tool of a professor because "he embarrasses her". Now she does see the error of her ways but she only returns to him after he becomes a rich and successful musician so we get the [[Unfortunate Implications]] that that's the only reason she is returning. Now Homer Simpson is far from a perfect husband but he has made it clear over and over again that he loves Marge more than anything and this episode was the first I ever questioned what does he see in her? You know you've made someone unlikeable when Homer comes across as more mature and responsible than them.
* ''[[Tropers/Darth Megatron|Darth Megatron]]'': ''American History X-cellent''. You know the part where Homer, Lenny and Carl [[Jerkass|make insulting comments directed towards Smithers behind Smithers' back? The comments about how Smithers is way too soft and letting them take advantage of him by actually being flexible and accomodating towards them,]] unlike [[Complete Monster|Mr. Burns]]? Yeah. Ungrateful bastards.
* ''[[Tropers/Darth Megatron|Darth Megatron]]'': ''American History X-cellent''. You know the part where Homer, Lenny and Carl [[Jerkass|make insulting comments directed towards Smithers behind Smithers' back? The comments about how Smithers is way too soft and letting them take advantage of him by actually being flexible and accomodating towards them,]] unlike [[Complete Monster|Mr. Burns]]? Yeah. Ungrateful bastards.
* ''[[Tropers/Aspie Crow|Aspie Crow]]'': ''Lisa the Drama Queen''. I've hated the show for quite a while now, but this episode is the bottom of the barrel. Basically, Lisa [[Heavenly Creatures|befriends an English transfer student named Juliet and together, they create a make-believe world.]] It's been mentioned many times before, but Simpsons should not be attempting to copy [[Family Guy]], and yet, here we are, with an episode making fun of a real life incident where two girls killed someone. [[No Just No Reaction|No. Just...no.]]
* ''[[Tropers/Aspie Crow|Aspie Crow]]'': ''Lisa the Drama Queen''. I've hated the show for quite a while now, but this episode is the bottom of the barrel. Basically, Lisa [[Heavenly Creatures|befriends an English transfer student named Juliet and together, they create a make-believe world.]] It's been mentioned many times before, but Simpsons should not be attempting to copy [[Family Guy]], and yet, here we are, with an episode making fun of a real life incident where two girls killed someone. [["No. Just... No" Reaction|No. Just...no.]]
* ''[[Tropers/A Justice|A Justice]]'': I recently thought of the episode where the family goes to Africa ("Simpsons Safari," from season 12), gets lost, and winds up at a chimp preserve. It appears that poachers are stealing the chimps, but it turns out that the "poachers" are actually with Greenpeace and are saving the chimps from the scientist (a Jane Goodall expy) who runs the preserve: she's actually using them for slave labor to mine diamonds for her. When confronted, she bribes the family with diamonds, while [[Evil Laugh|cackling]] and sporting a crazed look (showing that [[Sanity Slippage|isolation and greed has driven her over the edge]]). And what do the Simpsons do? Take the bribe and let the chimp-torturing=[[[[[ nutjob go further down the goddamn chute. (except Lisa, who just complains about it). You really gotta question their morals when they prefer getting rich over getting a person mental help.
* ''[[Tropers/A Justice|A Justice]]'': I recently thought of the episode where the family goes to Africa ("Simpsons Safari," from season 12), gets lost, and winds up at a chimp preserve. It appears that poachers are stealing the chimps, but it turns out that the "poachers" are actually with Greenpeace and are saving the chimps from the scientist (a Jane Goodall expy) who runs the preserve: she's actually using them for slave labor to mine diamonds for her. When confronted, she bribes the family with diamonds, while [[Evil Laugh|cackling]] and sporting a crazed look (showing that [[Sanity Slippage|isolation and greed has driven her over the edge]]). And what do the Simpsons do? Take the bribe and let the chimp-torturing=[[[[[ nutjob go further down the goddamn chute. (except Lisa, who just complains about it). You really gotta question their morals when they prefer getting rich over getting a person mental help.
* thenameisbean: The last episode of season 20 "Coming to Homerica." Basically, a nearby town called Ogdenville (which was mentioned before on season four's "Marge vs. The Monorail" and on season nine's "Bart Star" with the "Ogdenville Wildcats") goes bust (thanks to the tainted barley used to make Krusty Burger's latest sandwich) and the Ogdenvillians move to Springfield and take over physical labor-type jobs, doing a good job of it. Initially, Springfield welcomes them, but then the Springfieldians worry that the Ogdenvillians are influencing their culture, so they build a wall to keep the Ogdenvillans out, but then they realize they miss them and build a door in the wall. It started out as a decent episode with some funny gags, but sadly, it devolved into ham-fisted political commentary with a badly executed aesop that's been done before, better, by this show and others.
* thenameisbean: The last episode of season 20 "Coming to Homerica." Basically, a nearby town called Ogdenville (which was mentioned before on season four's "Marge vs. The Monorail" and on season nine's "Bart Star" with the "Ogdenville Wildcats") goes bust (thanks to the tainted barley used to make Krusty Burger's latest sandwich) and the Ogdenvillians move to Springfield and take over physical labor-type jobs, doing a good job of it. Initially, Springfield welcomes them, but then the Springfieldians worry that the Ogdenvillians are influencing their culture, so they build a wall to keep the Ogdenvillans out, but then they realize they miss them and build a door in the wall. It started out as a decent episode with some funny gags, but sadly, it devolved into ham-fisted political commentary with a badly executed aesop that's been done before, better, by this show and others.
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* [[Storm Kensho]]: The anniversary of the Simpsons, and here's Lisa and the show snarking about [[Fox News]]. How original, guys. A left-leaning show making snark at the expense of a conservative news source? The same conservative news source that was ignored by such shows prior to its rise in the ratings? New and exciting! *facepalm*
* [[Storm Kensho]]: The anniversary of the Simpsons, and here's Lisa and the show snarking about [[Fox News]]. How original, guys. A left-leaning show making snark at the expense of a conservative news source? The same conservative news source that was ignored by such shows prior to its rise in the ratings? New and exciting! *facepalm*
* [[Tropers/Sblackguy|Sblackguy]]: "No Loan Again, Naturally" is when this troper just flat out gave up on the Simpsons. Essentially, due to Homer's stupidity, the family loses the house and Flanders, out of the kindness of his heart, buys their house and lets them stay, agreeing that they only have to pay him what little they can come up with. Being the [[Jerkass|jerkasses]] that they are, the Simpsons' take advantage of his kindness—abusing their stay as tenants—to the point where they make him out to be the bad guy to the town. Once he kicks them out he feels sorry for them and lets them return. That's it; the Simpsons are never called out for their douchey attitude and to top it all off Flanders now has a lawsuit because he showed kindness.
* [[Tropers/Sblackguy|Sblackguy]]: "No Loan Again, Naturally" is when this troper just flat out gave up on the Simpsons. Essentially, due to Homer's stupidity, the family loses the house and Flanders, out of the kindness of his heart, buys their house and lets them stay, agreeing that they only have to pay him what little they can come up with. Being the [[Jerkass|jerkasses]] that they are, the Simpsons' take advantage of his kindness—abusing their stay as tenants—to the point where they make him out to be the bad guy to the town. Once he kicks them out he feels sorry for them and lets them return. That's it; the Simpsons are never called out for their douchey attitude and to top it all off Flanders now has a lawsuit because he showed kindness.
* [[Tropers/Bananaquit|Bananaquit]]: ''Saddlesore Galactica''. Really, the whole episode, as it seemed cruelly calculated by the writers to [[Take That|raise the ire of anyone who criticized the show]]. However, I was willing to give it the benefit of the doubt; even though I didn’t laugh once during the first two acts. Then comes the third act, where it’s revealed that jockeys are really [[Wall Banger (Darth Wiki)|Keebler™-like elves who live in an underground cave beneath a tree. Who perform a horrid musical number]]. And, as though they hadn’t added enough insult to injury, they managed to cap the episode with a [[Cliche Storm|predictable “Bill Clinton Is Promiscuous” gag]]. This episode didn’t merely [[Jump the Shark]], it pole-vaulted over it.
* [[Tropers/Bananaquit|Bananaquit]]: ''Saddlesore Galactica''. Really, the whole episode, as it seemed cruelly calculated by the writers to [[Take That|raise the ire of anyone who criticized the show]]. However, I was willing to give it the benefit of the doubt; even though I didn’t laugh once during the first two acts. Then comes the third act, where it’s revealed that jockeys are really [[Wall Banger (Darth Wiki)|Keebler™-like elves who live in an underground cave beneath a tree. Who perform a horrid musical number]]. And, as though they hadn’t added enough insult to injury, they managed to cap the episode with a [[Cliché Storm|predictable “Bill Clinton Is Promiscuous” gag]]. This episode didn’t merely [[Jump the Shark]], it pole-vaulted over it.
* [[Tropers/darkrage 6|darkrage 6]]: ''The Boys Of Bummer'' This episode can be boiled down to "Bart goes through a [[Humiliation Conga]] courtesy of everyone in Springfield because he didn't catch an easy pop fly". How the writers thought that Bart getting insulted and humiliated by the whole town for something so minor was the least bit funny or entertaining is beyond me, and then there's an [[Overly Long Gag]], unfunny gag with everything getting in the way of Bart hitting a home run after the town decides to give him another chance, when he finally does hit a home run, I would've been content if the episode just ended, but of course the writers had to throw in a really lame future flash-forward gag to end the episode, combine all that with the lousy idiotic subplot with Homer And Marge, and you have a real shit-sandwich of an episode that should have never made it past the storyboard stage.
* [[Tropers/darkrage 6|darkrage 6]]: ''The Boys Of Bummer'' This episode can be boiled down to "Bart goes through a [[Humiliation Conga]] courtesy of everyone in Springfield because he didn't catch an easy pop fly". How the writers thought that Bart getting insulted and humiliated by the whole town for something so minor was the least bit funny or entertaining is beyond me, and then there's an [[Overly Long Gag]], unfunny gag with everything getting in the way of Bart hitting a home run after the town decides to give him another chance, when he finally does hit a home run, I would've been content if the episode just ended, but of course the writers had to throw in a really lame future flash-forward gag to end the episode, combine all that with the lousy idiotic subplot with Homer And Marge, and you have a real shit-sandwich of an episode that should have never made it past the storyboard stage.
** [[Tropers/Rossmallo|Rossmallo]]: I have to add - it goes beyond simple humiliation. It was nothing short of pure, unadulterated hateful rage, that would have been horrendous towards a fully grown man, let alone a ten year old boy. It gets so horrific that when its obvious that Bart has gone properly, clinically insane, and he's climbed a water tower, Chief Wiggum tells him to jump. He does. And when he's lying in hospital, critically injured, an angry mob forms outside to yell at him more, despite the fact that he attempted to take his own life.
** [[Tropers/Rossmallo|Rossmallo]]: I have to add - it goes beyond simple humiliation. It was nothing short of pure, unadulterated hateful rage, that would have been horrendous towards a fully grown man, let alone a ten year old boy. It gets so horrific that when its obvious that Bart has gone properly, clinically insane, and he's climbed a water tower, Chief Wiggum tells him to jump. He does. And when he's lying in hospital, critically injured, an angry mob forms outside to yell at him more, despite the fact that he attempted to take his own life.
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* [[Tropers/Excaruso|Excaruso]]: ''The Good, the Sad, and the Drugly''. Bart and Milhouse pull a prank which involves screwing the nails out of the school and causing walls to fall off. Milhouse accepts the fall for it, and gets suspended while Bart doesn't come clean. Okay, so then Bart promises to visit Milhouse every day until his suspension is up. He then falls for a girl named Jenny, and they start spending a lot of time together, until Bart forgets to visit Milhouse on a rainy night. As punishment, he then invades Bart's life in a very harsh way, until eventually he forces Bart to confess to Jenny about how he isn't who she thought he was. And she dumps Bart, leaving him as a crying mess. Then Milhouse pretty much [[Karma Houdini|makes up with Bart with no reprimandation]]. I felt so bad for Bart there, he made a simple mistake and then it just gets jacked. [[Sarcasm Mode|Thanks, Milhouse, we all know that people like it when you cause your best friend to lose a relationship.]]
* [[Tropers/Excaruso|Excaruso]]: ''The Good, the Sad, and the Drugly''. Bart and Milhouse pull a prank which involves screwing the nails out of the school and causing walls to fall off. Milhouse accepts the fall for it, and gets suspended while Bart doesn't come clean. Okay, so then Bart promises to visit Milhouse every day until his suspension is up. He then falls for a girl named Jenny, and they start spending a lot of time together, until Bart forgets to visit Milhouse on a rainy night. As punishment, he then invades Bart's life in a very harsh way, until eventually he forces Bart to confess to Jenny about how he isn't who she thought he was. And she dumps Bart, leaving him as a crying mess. Then Milhouse pretty much [[Karma Houdini|makes up with Bart with no reprimandation]]. I felt so bad for Bart there, he made a simple mistake and then it just gets jacked. [[Sarcasm Mode|Thanks, Milhouse, we all know that people like it when you cause your best friend to lose a relationship.]]
* ''[[Tropers/thatsnumberwang|thatsnumberwang]]'': ''The Greatest Story Ever Doh'd'' was the moment I realized the lighthearted and funny comedy I grew up with had died forever. I'm of the firm belief that Lisa is possibly the most vile individual in Simpsons history - she makes Mr Burns look like a kind, thoughtful and sensitive man (just read some of the other Lisa examples on this very page to further back up my claims). So Basically, Bart ends up getting chased by a girl who watched him vandalize a sacred wall and ends up getting rather violently kicked in the groin; now arguably he was being a dick and deserved it. Later on however, Lisa with full knowledge of this incident and the fact that Bart was probably still in pain despite not outwardly showing it, sadistically hits him in the groin again because she wanted his airplane seat. She shows absolutely no remorse and even laughs at the sight of her brother crumpled in pain on the floor beside her. Yes, she's eight years old and yes, that's what eight year old girls often do but we're talking about a character who used to be portrayed as a caring pacifist violently attacking a boy who, whilst frequently naughty, has been shown to genuinely love and care for her on a vast multitude of occasions.
* ''[[Tropers/thatsnumberwang|thatsnumberwang]]'': ''The Greatest Story Ever Doh'd'' was the moment I realized the lighthearted and funny comedy I grew up with had died forever. I'm of the firm belief that Lisa is possibly the most vile individual in Simpsons history - she makes Mr Burns look like a kind, thoughtful and sensitive man (just read some of the other Lisa examples on this very page to further back up my claims). So Basically, Bart ends up getting chased by a girl who watched him vandalize a sacred wall and ends up getting rather violently kicked in the groin; now arguably he was being a dick and deserved it. Later on however, Lisa with full knowledge of this incident and the fact that Bart was probably still in pain despite not outwardly showing it, sadistically hits him in the groin again because she wanted his airplane seat. She shows absolutely no remorse and even laughs at the sight of her brother crumpled in pain on the floor beside her. Yes, she's eight years old and yes, that's what eight year old girls often do but we're talking about a character who used to be portrayed as a caring pacifist violently attacking a boy who, whilst frequently naughty, has been shown to genuinely love and care for her on a vast multitude of occasions.
* Animeking1108: "Exit Through The Kwik-E-Mart" where Bart tagged degrading pictures of Homer as payback for locking him in a cage (and then kicking him out when he was getting comfortable). He did it because Marge missed an important call on her birthday and [[Disproportionate Retribution|took it out on Bart because he bought the rabbit that chewed the phone cord]]. In the end, Homer is humiliated, so what's the problem? We're apparently supposed to feel sorry for [[Designated Hero|Homer]]. Yes, we're supposed to feel sorry for somebody who committed child abuse by locking his son in a cage. Then it turns out {{spoiler|the art show at the end was a set up by the police}}. Marge convinces the cops not to arrest him, but he's punished by getting locked in the cage again. [[Arson Murder and Jaywalking|Also, the subplot with Apu and the grocery store competing with him was completely pointless to the rest of the plot despite the misleading episode title]].
* Animeking1108: "Exit Through The Kwik-E-Mart" where Bart tagged degrading pictures of Homer as payback for locking him in a cage (and then kicking him out when he was getting comfortable). He did it because Marge missed an important call on her birthday and [[Disproportionate Retribution|took it out on Bart because he bought the rabbit that chewed the phone cord]]. In the end, Homer is humiliated, so what's the problem? We're apparently supposed to feel sorry for [[Designated Hero|Homer]]. Yes, we're supposed to feel sorry for somebody who committed child abuse by locking his son in a cage. Then it turns out {{spoiler|the art show at the end was a set up by the police}}. Marge convinces the cops not to arrest him, but he's punished by getting locked in the cage again. [[Arson, Murder, and Jaywalking|Also, the subplot with Apu and the grocery store competing with him was completely pointless to the rest of the plot despite the misleading episode title]].
* Wildstar93: Season two's "Bart vs. Thanksgiving". Sure, Bart did do something stupid like ruining Lisa's project, but what does Marge do? Yells at Bart that he ruined Thanksgiving! And after that, instead of just explaining what he did wrong and trying to make things easier, Marge yells at him more to apologize. No. Just...no. No way am I ever watching that episode.
* Wildstar93: Season two's "Bart vs. Thanksgiving". Sure, Bart did do something stupid like ruining Lisa's project, but what does Marge do? Yells at Bart that he ruined Thanksgiving! And after that, instead of just explaining what he did wrong and trying to make things easier, Marge yells at him more to apologize. No. Just...no. No way am I ever watching that episode.
** Disney23: Let's not forget when Homer blames her for Bart running away, she sticks by her actions, telling him to "ask any syndicated columnist".
** Disney23: Let's not forget when Homer blames her for Bart running away, she sticks by her actions, telling him to "ask any syndicated columnist".
* Calamity2007: I know some might disagree with me but I absolutely hate the Christmas episode "Miracle on Evergreen Terrace". It's about Bart accidentally burning down the Christmas tree and presents while the family was asleep and, in panic, hiding it from his family by making them think it was a robbery. The townspeople luckily enough give them more then enough compensation for the damages and everyone is happy...Until they find out on TV the melted remains of the tree/presents...Okay so naturally the next act should be Bart getting forgiveness, right? Nope! {{spoiler|The town instantly thinks that the Simpson family purposefully set up a scam to get there money}} even though Bart, on camera no less, admitted to accidentally burning down the tree and lying. Cue the next act where were treated to several hard-to-watch scenes of [[Disproportionate Retribution]] where the whole town hates them in different ways, {{spoiler|one of the worst being Ms. Hoover refusing to teach Lisa!}} Wait, but [[It Gets Worse]] when the Simpsons return home to find a lot of cars parked outside the house, and Marge, [[Hope Spot|thinks that the townspeople have forgiven them]]. Well they have, {{spoiler|except they steal everything, (and I do mean even the nailed down stuff!) in there house!!}} [[Big What|...What!!]] And that's how the episode ends in probably one of the most sickening acts from the town of Springfield next to their treatment of Bart in "Boys of Bummer." What's worse is that {{spoiler|at the end when their fighting over a cloth}}, heartwarming music plays in a lesson I'm assuming is "at least they have each other" but it is still done in such a poor way and it makes the town of Springfield look like a town of [[Karma Houdini|Karma Houdinies]]!! It is the one Christmas episode that I can never watch and one of my least favorite Simpson episodes. I know that it was supposed to be a [[Black Comedy]] (which I don't usually mind) but [[Dude Not Funny|I didn't find it humorous in the slightest]].
* Calamity2007: I know some might disagree with me but I absolutely hate the Christmas episode "Miracle on Evergreen Terrace". It's about Bart accidentally burning down the Christmas tree and presents while the family was asleep and, in panic, hiding it from his family by making them think it was a robbery. The townspeople luckily enough give them more then enough compensation for the damages and everyone is happy...Until they find out on TV the melted remains of the tree/presents...Okay so naturally the next act should be Bart getting forgiveness, right? Nope! {{spoiler|The town instantly thinks that the Simpson family purposefully set up a scam to get there money}} even though Bart, on camera no less, admitted to accidentally burning down the tree and lying. Cue the next act where were treated to several hard-to-watch scenes of [[Disproportionate Retribution]] where the whole town hates them in different ways, {{spoiler|one of the worst being Ms. Hoover refusing to teach Lisa!}} Wait, but [[It Gets Worse]] when the Simpsons return home to find a lot of cars parked outside the house, and Marge, [[Hope Spot|thinks that the townspeople have forgiven them]]. Well they have, {{spoiler|except they steal everything, (and I do mean even the nailed down stuff!) in there house!!}} [[Big "What?"|...What!!]] And that's how the episode ends in probably one of the most sickening acts from the town of Springfield next to their treatment of Bart in "Boys of Bummer." What's worse is that {{spoiler|at the end when their fighting over a cloth}}, heartwarming music plays in a lesson I'm assuming is "at least they have each other" but it is still done in such a poor way and it makes the town of Springfield look like a town of [[Karma Houdini|Karma Houdinies]]!! It is the one Christmas episode that I can never watch and one of my least favorite Simpson episodes. I know that it was supposed to be a [[Black Comedy]] (which I don't usually mind) but [[Dude, Not Funny|I didn't find it humorous in the slightest]].
** [[Tropers/Philipnova 798|Philipnova 798]]: You're not alone on this. I found the idea of the entire town looting the house to be quite possibly the biggest slap in the face to an already mediocre episode. And saying it's a [[Disproportionate Retribution]] [[Insult to Rocks|would be an insult to the idea of Disproportionate Retribution]]. Quite honestly, it makes the town look like complete jackasses and unlikeable.
** [[Tropers/Philipnova 798|Philipnova 798]]: You're not alone on this. I found the idea of the entire town looting the house to be quite possibly the biggest slap in the face to an already mediocre episode. And saying it's a [[Disproportionate Retribution]] [[Insult to Rocks|would be an insult to the idea of Disproportionate Retribution]]. Quite honestly, it makes the town look like complete jackasses and unlikeable.
* marioandsonic: I have to talk about a moment from one episode that really rubbed me the wrong way. In "Bart The Murderer", the episode begins with Bart waking up to what's supposed to be a great day: he has his homework done (Which, knowing Bart, is very rare) and his school is going on a field trip to a chocolate factory. However, the entire first act pretty much makes Bart a [[Cosmic Plaything]]: he steps on a plastic dinosaur waking up, his dog eats his homework, he misses the bus and has to walk to school in the rain, gets hit with a ball during recess, can't go on the trip due to forgetting his permission slip, has to stay at the school and lick envelopes, and has to ride his skateboard home (again, in the rain). One of his skateboard's wheels falls off, and he winds up at the door to the Legitamite Businessmen's Social Club, where Fat Tony and his gang resides. Now, that's not what the DMOS is for me. [[Jerkass|The DMOS is how Lisa acts during this entire first act. During the scene where Bart misses the bus, as the bus drives away, we see a shot of Lisa waving goodbye to Bart with a smug grin on her face. She could have easily told the bus driver to wait for him, or at the very least, tell the driver to stop, but no! She doesn't do anything! Then, at the chocolate factory, Lisa says "I think is something Bart would've really enjoyed, but it's the only way he'll learn." Learn what?! What did Bart do wrong here? All the guy wanted to do was go on a trip!]] Ever since then, I couldn't stand [[Creators Pet|Lisa]] anymore. And the newer episodes only make her worse in my eyes. I'd go into that further, but some examples have already been listed here.
* marioandsonic: I have to talk about a moment from one episode that really rubbed me the wrong way. In "Bart The Murderer", the episode begins with Bart waking up to what's supposed to be a great day: he has his homework done (Which, knowing Bart, is very rare) and his school is going on a field trip to a chocolate factory. However, the entire first act pretty much makes Bart a [[Cosmic Plaything]]: he steps on a plastic dinosaur waking up, his dog eats his homework, he misses the bus and has to walk to school in the rain, gets hit with a ball during recess, can't go on the trip due to forgetting his permission slip, has to stay at the school and lick envelopes, and has to ride his skateboard home (again, in the rain). One of his skateboard's wheels falls off, and he winds up at the door to the Legitamite Businessmen's Social Club, where Fat Tony and his gang resides. Now, that's not what the DMOS is for me. [[Jerkass|The DMOS is how Lisa acts during this entire first act. During the scene where Bart misses the bus, as the bus drives away, we see a shot of Lisa waving goodbye to Bart with a smug grin on her face. She could have easily told the bus driver to wait for him, or at the very least, tell the driver to stop, but no! She doesn't do anything! Then, at the chocolate factory, Lisa says "I think is something Bart would've really enjoyed, but it's the only way he'll learn." Learn what?! What did Bart do wrong here? All the guy wanted to do was go on a trip!]] Ever since then, I couldn't stand [[Creator's Pet|Lisa]] anymore. And the newer episodes only make her worse in my eyes. I'd go into that further, but some examples have already been listed here.
* Tropemasterx2: This troper can't stand watching episode Lisa's Sax, except the moment where Homer decides to buy Lisa her saxophone instead of an air conditioner. Why i hate this episode? Three words: Bart's Preschool Teacher. We see that in his first day of school, Bart has trouble with the alphabet. What does she decide to do? Help and support him? No. She simply says that he will get a lot of F's and then fail in life. And when she read [[Ugly Duckling]] to class, she said that there is a hope for everyone. Bart asked if there is a hope for him. She coldly says "No". Her treatment made Bart miserable and turned him into prankster he is today and even made Bart consider suicide, when he was just a five-year old, judging by the drawing Bart made. What makes it even worse is that Bart was happy and innocent child, who was enthusiatic about going to school, but this bitch made him miserable and ruined his life. Without her Bart would have made it high as Lisa. And worst of all, she is a [[Karma Houdini]], because she wasn't show to have punished for her actions.
* Tropemasterx2: This troper can't stand watching episode Lisa's Sax, except the moment where Homer decides to buy Lisa her saxophone instead of an air conditioner. Why i hate this episode? Three words: Bart's Preschool Teacher. We see that in his first day of school, Bart has trouble with the alphabet. What does she decide to do? Help and support him? No. She simply says that he will get a lot of F's and then fail in life. And when she read [[Ugly Duckling]] to class, she said that there is a hope for everyone. Bart asked if there is a hope for him. She coldly says "No". Her treatment made Bart miserable and turned him into prankster he is today and even made Bart consider suicide, when he was just a five-year old, judging by the drawing Bart made. What makes it even worse is that Bart was happy and innocent child, who was enthusiatic about going to school, but this bitch made him miserable and ruined his life. Without her Bart would have made it high as Lisa. And worst of all, she is a [[Karma Houdini]], because she wasn't show to have punished for her actions.
** Shadow Mayflower: Lisa's Sax was one giant [[What Could Have Been]] for Bart, huh?
** Shadow Mayflower: Lisa's Sax was one giant [[What Could Have Been]] for Bart, huh?
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