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* Wouldn't most of day 3 be avoided if MC and co just asked Midori to team up in the first place?

** Maybe, but that's assuming they could've kept Midori reined in -- considering her initial mindset, that's a ''big'' if. It takes a ''lot'' to get her to even ''consider'' other people's points of view. It'd be a full-time job keeping her from scampering off the instant you didn't live up to her standard of 'real heroes', ''and'' she'd be drawing all that hatred down on ''your'' heads from the start. Besides, they've got the whole [[Your Days Are Numbered]] issue to deal with, and aren't exactly eager to pull others into ''that''. At least this way, she has some chance of avoiding being [[The Scrappy]] through [[Character Development]]...

** Given that Naoya created the Laplace Mail, he's good at predicting what people are going to do. So this troper's guess is that he expected Gin & Keisuke to do exactly what they did: Have you collect information about {{spoiler|Aya}} (Gin), and help you survive (Keisuke).

** It's just slang, isn't it? She already uses [[Leet Lingo]]; doesn't seem out of the question that she's heard "borked" before and picked it up. She's not describing anything beyond "Dang, it's broken, huh?"

*** ''Internet'' slang.

*** Specially since all her e-mails are in leet speak.

*** Borked isn't internet slang. It's a generic slang for when someone messes up really bad.

** On Gin's route (and possibly others), there is a time event battle where Honda {{spoiler|tries to break through the lockdown barricade with his demons}}. There seems to be a few choices you can make in this mission; I decided to {{spoiler|attack Honda and break his COMP}}. This just made him {{spoiler|run off, like most disarmed human enemies}}, and it's unclear what happens to him after that.

*** Isn't that the timed battle agains angels, demons or both, before fighting Belial? The one before any routes are chosen? This makes it true in all routes (if you do defeat him there and take his comp, something not needed but that makes the battle easier), meaning he gets another one in Yuzu's route - and possibly on the others too.

*** If you beat all the demons and angels, but not him then the SDF will reinforce the barricade, he runs away, and you don't see him again.

*** I saw the same thing. [[Sequel Hook]]? Maybe? We never learn if his son's death in the Escape route is canon either, but then, we don't know if any of the routes are.

*** I think that his {{spoiler|son's death}} happens no matter what. He tries to go on the rampage in all routes, but only in Yuzu's route can his COMP summon when he's out.

** Honda mentions wanting to fly out of the lock down using a demon, but never attempts it, probably because of the aforementioned helicopters.

* Doesn't it bother anyone that the angels said that God would only take Mankind's freedom if it ''failed'' the ordeal, yet he does the same thing when you become his messiah, only with you as a middleman?

** And yet another interpretation of the ending is that humanity didn't lose it's rights to free will, but because of kind leadership, everyone pretty much universally decided to be good. The fact that actually ''knowing'' that there are demons, a hell, and a God probably made a good deal of people jump into the Good sides boat as well.

**** It's primary reference to humanity acting out of fear is the phrase "Fear of God," or something similar, which is considered a good thing by certain Christian groups (i.e. "So-and-so is a god-fearing individual")

***** That's a distinction without a difference. SMT more or less returns to the Old Testament roots when it comes to God, with a side order of [[Deconstruction]]. The God of the Old Testament wasn't someone you obeyed just because it was the right thing to do, or even because you'd get to go to Heaven instead of Hell, but because he'd turn you into a pillar of salt for the slightest disobedience if he was in a bad mood. Even in Devil Survivor, where he's less of an outright dick, in the Lawful ending you're taking on the role of "the absolute judge of mankind's sins." That's not a sunshine and rainbows job, that's a [[Dark Messiah]].

* Alright Mari, that cannot summon demons and has pitiful stats even after her Demo...er, [[Angelic Possession]], sets off to kill Kudlak.And the MC's gang entrusts the only thing that can get him [[Killed Off for Real]] to her.Couldn't she just give the "powder" to MC?

** For some reason that's never really explained but has to do with the mythology it is has to be Kresnik who delivers the finishing blow.

*** They're probably referring to Mari when she fights Kudlak, at that point her stats are pretty weak. It isn't exactly explained why she's much stronger in the routes where she joins your party.

** Plus, at the point where she fights Kudlak, ''she didn't have a COMP''. She gets one later on, if/when she joins up with you, but before then, she wasn't exactly in the best position to stand against demons, Kresnik or no Kresnik. Just being within range of ''your'' COMPs offers some protection, as they figured out with Haru early on, but she didn't have any experience, demons or skills of her own.

* What do the characters fight with? I mean I know they use [[COM Ps]] to fight the demons, and that they have spells and etc, but what sort of weapons do they use when you attack physically? Fists? Or are they holding weapons we can't see? If so, what weapons? Are they like the people in Persona and just use whatever?

** They punch demons, and perhaps Atsuro hits them with his bag. They're just that badass.

* In the opening for Overclocked there's a blink and you'll miss it shot of an in-game battle against Gin. Can this actually happen?

** Yup. It happens in the original too. If you choose not to help Gin look for Aya and take Naoya's route, both Gin and Azuma will fight you in the battle against Remiel!Amane.

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