Devil but No God: Difference between revisions

*** The court mage in ''Oblivion''{{'}}s Cheydinhal castle asks if you worship the Nine Divines, asking rhetorically if they've ever helped or harmed the PC. She states that were the hero to worship a daedra lord, they would get results. Bad ones, but measurable results. She then states that she considers worshiping gods a waste of time, though the daedra cult of Azura are a nice, reasonable bunch.

** While not in ''Oblivion'', in the previous game, ''[[The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind|Morrowind]]'', you did in fact meet what is implied to be avatars of the Nine Divine (Stendarr and Mara in sidequests, Talos during the Main Quest), who reward the hero/heroine according to the action they take.

** In ''[[The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion]]'', you see the {{spoiler|Avatar of Akatosh when he comes to defeat Mehrunes Dagon, but only after Martin sacrifices himself to call on its power.}}

** ''Oblivion'' and ''Morrowind'' drop huge metaphysical bombshells on this subject. As it turns out {{spoiler|the world as you know it is possibly Lorkhan's daedra realm, therefore men, elves, the missing dwarves and all animals or monsters, you're probably all daedra. Daedra have unearthly and demonic connotations, but only because people are ignorant of the fact that they and the animals or monsters that live around them are likely the metaphysical equals of the 'demons' that live in other realms. Hell, there are extremely "human" daedra and the magic of men and daedra are not only equivalent but work based on the same fundamental rules. The "gods" or Aedra do exist, or at least one of them does, and the story goes that most were daedric servants who rebelled against the realm's trickster creator god. Of note is that the person who floats the idea seems ignorant about a lot of metaphysical trivia, is somewhat bonkers, might be lying due to his being a villain, and is unsupported by any other source on ''Elder Scrolls'' cosmology, thus probably meaning he's wrong about this.}}