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{{quote|''"Broken promises don't upset me. I just think, why did they believe me?"''|'''Jack Handey'''}}

[[Evil Laugh|Mwahahaha!]] Oh, [[You Fool!|you poor foolish fool!]] [[Title Drop|Did you actually believe]] you'd get a straightforward trope description when you clicked on the link? Well, [[I Lied]]! You've played right into my [[Xanatos Gambit]], now [[But Thou Must!|you have no choice]] but to read through '''all''' of my [[Evil Gloating]] as I [[Hannibal Lecture]] you into tears! Mwahaha!

What? You mean you ''actually'' believed me when I promised you'd get a trope description? Oh, that's rich! I didn't think you were such a [[Horrible Judge of Character]]! <small>(I mean, I thought the [[Glowing Eyes of Doom|glowing]] [[Red Eyes, Take Warning|red eyes]] would be a ''[[Red Right Hand|huge]]'' tip off.)</small>

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Mwahaha-- What do you mean, "[[Shut UP, Hannibal|Shut up]]"? No! uh... ''[[No, You|You]]'' shut up! ... Well, yes, my whole plan did sort of hinge on you doing something I didn't think you'd do... What? No! That does ''not'' make my whole plan a [[Gambit Roulette]]! You take that back! Or I'll... uh... [[Smoke Out|*smoke bomb!* ]]

Anyway.

Stock phrase used by treacherous allies, mentors, and villains once they double cross the hero and have him at their mercy. This is often followed by declarations of [[Nietzsche Wannabe|sneering contempt]] for the hero's [[Honor Before Reason|idealistic moral code]] and/or [["The Reason You Suck" Speech|extended mockery of the hero]] for being [[I Lied|gullible enough]] to trust the villain's promises, [[Silly Rabbit, Idealism Is for Kids|naive enough]] to think that the villain sincerely intended to [[Enemy Mine|cooperate toward a common goal]], [[Good Is Dumb|dumb enough]] to get [[Manipulative Bastard|manipulated]] into providing the villain with [[Unwitting Pawn|aid]] or [[MacGuffin Delivery Service|equipment]], etc.

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* In ''[[Liar Game]]'', Fukunaga says this fairly often after tricking other players. Granted, this ''is'' the [[Liar Game]], a 'game where you lie' so he's probably justified in questioning the other players sanity when they believe his lies ''again''.

* In ''[[Bleach]]'' the [[Big Bad]] <s>[[Memetic Mutation|often]]</s> once said: Since when were you under the impression that {{spoiler|I wasn't using my [[Master of Illusion|Zanpakuto]]?}}

** Taking all of Aizen's monologues together, this comes close to being his [[Catch Phrase]] after a while, mostly reacting to the many, many, ''many'' attacks he pulls a [[No Sell]] on.

** Also done, in a less-[[Magnificent Bastard]] way, by {{spoiler|Yammy}} with his [[Memetic Mutation|meme-tastic]] line {{spoiler|"Who said the Espada went from one to ten?}}.

** Then there's chapter 414, with [[Laser-Guided Karma]] delivered by {{spoiler|Ichimaru Gin}} who out-chessed [[The Chessmaster]], while avoiding his "boss"'s [[Complexity Addiction]] with an simple {{spoiler|watch-and-wait strategy for the better part of a century}}. Unfortunately, {{spoiler|Gin promptly learns he was the victim of a [[Xanatos Gambit]], as Aizen actually [[Out-Gambitted|counted on being out-chessed]] by Gin to reach the next stage of his development...and somehow Aizen has become broken enough to [[Beyond the Impossible|survive being disintegrated from the inside out]]}}.

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{{quote|'''{{spoiler|Ozymandias}}:''' Dan, I'm not a [[Hold Your Hippogriffs|Republic serial]] [[Card-Carrying Villain|villain.]] Do you honestly think I'd [[Story-Boarding the Apocalypse|explain my masterstroke]] [[You Are Too Late|if there remained the slightest chance of you affecting its outcome?]]}}

* ''"The Death of [[Superman]]'' (the '60s Imaginary Story, not the '90s arc) has Luthor curing cancer and [[Civilian Villain|publicly announcing that he has renounced evil]] and will dedicate his life to doing good. Supes is delighted at this, and becomes Luthor's best friend. Then Luthor lures his new best friend into his lab and tortures him to death with Kryptonite, laughing uproariously at Supes's helpless expressions of betrayal, fury, and heartbreak and quoting this trope almost word for word. As for ''why'' [[Out-of-Character Moment|Superman]] believed it, [[Silver Age|take a look at that decade again]].

* ''[[Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow?]]'':

{{quote|'''Mxyzptlk:''' Did you ''honestly'' believe a sorcerer from the 5th dimension would resemble a funny little man in a derby hat?}}

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* ''[[The Bourne Ultimatum]]'' has Bourne chastise his enemies this way:

{{quote|'''Jason Bourne:''' You didn't actually think I was coming to Tudor City did you?}}

* The 1984 ''[[Dune]]'' has a heroic example, where Thufir Hawat (the Atreidies mentat) betrays the Emperor and Harkonens by refusing to kill Paul.

{{quote|'''Thufir Hawat:''' [He turns to Feyd and the Emperor]... Did you actually believe, even for a moment, that I would fail my Duke TWICE? [He commits suicide]}}

* ''[[Harry Potter and The Order of The Phoenix]]'' has the following exchange, after Harry was [[MacGuffin Delivery Service|tricked into retrieving a prophecy.]]

{{quote|'''Lucius Malfoy:''' Did you actually believe, or are you truly naïve enough to think that children stood a chance against us? I'll make this simple for you, Potter. Give me the prophecy now, or watch your friends die.}}

* In ''[[Pirates of the Caribbean]]: At World's End'', {{spoiler|Beckett gloats over his perceived victory, assuming Jack's reappearance after the climactic battle is an attempt on his part to gain Beckett's clemency, as they'd negotiated. But Beckett's clearly had a double-cross planned for some time. ("He actually expects me to honor our agreement.")}}

* Averted in ''The Long Good Friday'': After double-crossing and attempting to destroy the {{spoiler|''IRA'' gangster operation}} in London the London gangster Harold Shand is {{spoiler|kidnapped by gunmen in the final scene of the film.}} Neither he nor {{spoiler|his captors speak}}, but one gunman smirks at him.

* In the 2002 film adaptation of ''[[The Count of Monte Cristo (film)|The Count of Monte Cristo]]'', Edmond manages to make the police chief that wrongfully imprisoned him implicate himself, in a bathhouse where the steam obscured the constables waiting to make the arrest. Faced with the prospect of being locked in the same [[Alcatraz]] that Edmond had spent decades in, the police chief finds a pistol in the paddy wagon, and attempts suicide. ''It's empty''.

{{quote|'''Edmond''': (through a window) "You didn't think I'd make it that easy for you, did you?"}}

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** The Doctor gets his turn to use it in ''Remembrance of The Daleks''

{{quote|'''The Doctor:''' Did you think I would let you have the Hand Of Omega?}}

* In ''[[Power Rangers Jungle Fury]]'':

{{quote|'''Grizzaka''': (after finally escaping the sand snakes) Think you're rid of me? Think again. (laughs evilly)}}

** Now, bad guys say stuff like that all the time, but on this occasion it's different: Grizzaka is one of the three Overlords, the [[Big Bad|Big Bads]] of this arc. Carnisoar the Sky Overlord went down last week, and Jellica the Sea Overlord and the [[Sixth Ranger]] had their climactic battle while Grizzaka the Land Overlord didn't even get past the [[Death Trap]]-laden path to the new [[Humongous Mecha]] this week. So, this arc's over and it's time for the [[Meet the New Boss|Phantom Beasts]], right? Yeah, [[Not So Fast Bucko]].

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== Professional Wrestling ==

* When Randy Orton shook Sheamus' hand at the conclusion of their May 18th match on Smackdown, Sheamus reluctantly accepted. As soon as he turned away, Randy planted Sheamus with an RKO. Randy is actually well known for doing things like this, so why Sheamus accepted the handshake at all is anyone's guess. Maybe it's because [[Good Is Dumb]].

== Music ==

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** In the 5-man "Trial of the Champion" dungeon, the Black Knight -- whom the player has most likely slain in a previous quest -- appears out of nowhere at the end and booms, "Did you honestly think an agent of the Lich King could be bested on the field of your ''pathetic'', little tournament?"

*** And then you kill him again. And again. And once more. That's counting up to '''three''' [[Back From the Dead]].

**** That fight in and of itself is more likely an example of [[Only a Flesh Wound]], given that the character is ''called'' "[[Monty Python and ~~The~~ Holy Grail|Black Knight]]" and he constantly disregards damage to himself and is assured of his victory.

**** That fight in and of itself is more likely an example of [[Only a Flesh Wound]], given that the character is ''called'' "[[Monty Python and the Holy Grail|Black Knight]]" and he constantly disregards damage to himself and is assured of his victory.

** Also a bit unusual that [[The Reveal]] is not their evilness, but the fact that they are alive ([[The Undead|sort of]]).

* ''[[Nethack]]:'' "A voice booms out... 'So [[Ye Olde Butcherede Englishe|thou thought thou couldst]] kill me, fool.'"

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** EP3's ending, did you actually believe that {{spoiler|Beatrice}} is going [[Tsundere]] for you? Actually subverted, since it turned out to be true anyway.

** EP7's ending, did you actually believe that {{spoiler|Bernkastel}} will give everyone a happy ending?

* In ''[[Batman Doom]]'', there is a level where you have to search a hospital for a switch to prevent the release of poison gas. A few minutes in, you do find a switch labelled "GAS SWITCH", but pressing it just reveals the words "DID YOU REALLY THINK IT WOULD BE THAT EASY?" and releases some [[Action Bomb|Penguin Bombs]].

* [[Rosenkreuzstilette|"It seems that I cannot change your mind. Such a shame... Do you honestly think you can stand against the entirety of RKS on your own?"]]

** Another example in ''Rosenkreuzstilette'':

{{quote|{{spoiler|'''Iris''': You think a run-of-the-mill Magus like yourself can stand a chance against me, Rosenkreuz reborn? This is why I can't stand commoners... I have transcended humanity. [[A God Am I|I, Iris Zeppelin, have become a god]]! A worthless insect like yourself can't hope to stop me.}}}}

* ''[[Mega Man X]] 7'':

{{quote|'''Splash Warfly''': Idiot! This is all according to plan!

'''Zero''': What? }}

* ''[[Adventure Quest Worlds]]'':

{{quote|'''Sek-Duat''': FOOLS! Did YOU really believe I would lead you here and just hand over the power of a Djinn?! I simply needed you both in the same place!}}

** Cue that rather violent [[The Bad Guy Wins]] moment where he supposedly "kills off" both Zhoom and the hero, takes the lamp, causes a cave-in, and holds up the lamp in triumph... only for it to suddenly be replaced with a simple rock. He doesn't know that Zhoom and the hero are still alive and now have the lamp because they secretly slipped him the Dreamdust, but he doesn't care.

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== [[Western Animation]] ==

* In ''[[Bionicle]] : Mask of Light'', the Seventh Toa, Takanuva, is followed to Makuta's lair by the island's inhabitants. Makuta seals off the entrance.

{{quote|'''Makuta:''' Did you actually believe I would let them return?}}

* ''[[Justice League Unlimited]]'' had this, but then subverts it beautifully: