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[[File:200_5164.jpg|frame|Oh, wow. [[Sarcasm Mode|He hates her soooooooo much]] in canon. Yeeeeeeeah.]]
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* Mamoru Chiba/Tuxedo Kamen/Prince Endymion of ''[[Sailor Moon]]'' is ''definitely'' Relena's [[Spear Counterpart]] in regards to this. The guy is consistently portrayed throughout every part of the Sailor Moon franchise as [[Official Couple|Usagi's love interest]], but the final series, ''Sailor Stars'', introduced Seiya Kou as a surrogate love interest while Mamoru was absent and fans, seeing a het-ish alternative to Mamoru ("ish" because Seiya is a [[Gender Bender]] in the anime and a [[Sweet Polly Oliver]] in the manga), proceeded to take this opportunity to express their anger at Mamoru. Said anger stems mostly from a plot arc in the ''R'' season, where Mamoru [[It's Not You, It's My Enemies|broke up with Usagi]] after receiving disturbing dreams that their relationship would lead to [[The End of the World as We Know It]]. It really didn't help that the whole arc reeked of [[Idiot Plot]] in general and the entire situation came off as [[Wall Banger|very contrived]] and [[Narm|melodramatic]]. But what people tend to forget though is that after that issue was finally resolved, Usagi did forgive Mamoru and he generally went back to being a serious and overall devoted and well-meaning boyfriend. But [[Never Live It Down]] is in effect here, as some Seiya/Usagi shippers will practically bend over backwards to color Mamoru up as this heartless asshole who ''hates'' her.
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* There's a [[Squick|Squicky]] subgroup that claims that Mamoru is in love with [[Parental Incest|his own future daughter]]. Anime Usagi is shown to be so childishly jealous when Mamoru pays attention to Chibi-Usa that she even asks him in the ''Super S'' movie which one he loves more. Mamoru is [[Flat What|understandably flabbergasted and gives no response]], which sets up a [[Chekhov's Gun]] when Usagi is [[Lotus Eater Machine|later trapped in an illusion with a fake Mamoru]]. Some of Mamoru's detractors will use this as evidence that he loves his daughter more than his girlfriend/future wife. It does not help that Chibi-Usa is quite clingy to him as well, and even refers to her father as [[Daddy's Girl|her boyfriend]]. Still, this subgroup seems to be unaware of the time in R when the Black Moon clan ''tries'' to brainwash Usagi into joining them by attempting to make her think that Mamoru was in love with Black Lady, Chibi-Usa's magically aged up ''and'' brainwashed alter ego... but Usagi breaks through it and says this won't happen ever. Note that in the manga, Usagi's jealousy of Mamoru's attention to Chibi-Usa was actually addressed directly when Usagi confessed it to him - leading to [[Their First Time]]. Needless to say, Mamoru was a bit more direct about his feelings in the manga.
* This also happens in reverse. Some Mamoru/Usagi fans don't take kindly to people splitting up the "Ultimate [[One True Pairing|OTP]]" of the fandom. As a result, Seiya also gets a lot of hatefics where she's treated as if she ''[[Psycho Lesbian|deliberately]]'' tried to ruin Usagi's relationship to steal her from Mamoru, even though in canon, she respected Usagi's prior commitments, and in the anime, mistakenly thought that Mamoru had dumped Usagi without telling her. ( {{spoiler|Mamoru's death wasn't revealed until the end of the anime's plot.}}) Even ''Mamoru'' trusted her and Usagi and was on pretty friendly terms with Seiya when they finally met. ''Both'' versions of Seiya (the [[Gender Bender]] from the anime and the [[Sweet Polly Oliver]] from the manga) took heat from the rabid shippers; the first more than the second, yeah, but still.
* And then there are the [[Mary Sue]] fics that bash Usagi to have Mamoru get it on with the Sue. Or the [[Crossover|crossovers]] that bash not only Mamoru, but also ''all'' of the Senshi (specially Rei, who briefly dated Mamoru in the anime but gave him up willingly) so Usagi will ditch the team and get together with [[Ranma One Half½|Ranma Saotome]], [[Weiss Kreuz|Farfarello]], [[Gundam Wing|Heero Yuy]], or [[Dragonball Z|Trunks]]. Or the Usagi/Rei [[Yuri]] fics that sound ''very'' similar to the Seiya/Usagi ones that make Mamoru a [[Jerkass]]...
* All you have to do to split up Usagi and Mamoru is to make Mamoru a [[Jerkass]]. One Usagi/Haruka fic, without irony, condemned Mamoru for being a possessive, unloving jerk who was torturing Usagi's emotions and driving her into Haruka's virtuous arms. Meanwhile, it seemed approving of Haruka's romance with Usagi while ignoring her ''live-in'' lover, Michiru, who suffers extreme [[Chickification]] and is okay with Haruka cheating on her (!). The story ended with Usagi and Mamoru together after Mamoru was harshly scolded for his evil ways and Haruka nobly [[I Want My Beloved to Be Happy|giving up Usagi]] and still getting to walk home with an ever-loving Michiru.
* [[The Ojou|Rei]] [[Miko|Hino]] was demonized quite a bit by rabid Usagi/Mamoru fans for her crush on Mamoru. They painted her as a screaming, frothing homewrecker who wanted to kill Usagi and steal Mamoru all for herself. Never mind that in anime canon, Rei [[I Want My Beloved to Be Happy|immediately stepped out of the way once she realized Usagi and Mamoru were meant to be]], that she was the most protective of Usagi among the Senshi, that Usagi trusted her ''the most'' out of anyone in the Senshi, that she was somewhat paired up with [[Butt Monkey|Yuuichiro]], ''and'' that Rei was the most affected in the ''Stars'' anime when she learned that {{spoiler|Usagi lost contact with Mamoru and hid that from them. "Why must Usagi suffer so ''much''? It... it's so unfair!", anyone?}}.
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* It was once popular, during the English dub's heyday, to portray Haruka as a [[Psycho Lesbian]] who either perverted or abused Michiru, all to ensure that a [[Relationship Sue|Relationship Gary Stu]] could enter the picture and rescue her from the sin of homosexuality. A subversion occurred on a once-infamous website that posited the reverse - that Haruka was a shy, gentle heterosexual woman and Michiru forced her to be a manly lesbian. These days, now that [[Ho Yay]] is ''far'' more popular, they're one of the series' most popular pairings.
 
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