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* Amagi Michal of ''[[Mermaid Melody Pichi Pichi Pitch]]'', a [[Clingy Jealous Girl]] ''and'' [[Ill Girl]] who is smitten with Kaito, gets this. Take out the clingy jealous part, and she's a lot like Tomoe Hotaru of ''[[Sailor Moon]]'' fame, but none of the latter's fans seem to realize this.

* Kouji and Natsu from ''[[Yes Precure 5|Yes! Precure 5]]''. The fact that they turn into [[Talking Animal]] sidekicks Coco and Nuts spurred the hatred by providing [[Squick]] as a ready excuse. They eventually found fandom support, however.

** Even though [[The One Guy|Erio]] has managed to escape the brunt of bashing due to being overtly [[Puppy Love|shipped]] with Caro, preventing him from being a threat to the main pairings, he still gets "Erio must die" vitriol every now and then from [[Het Is Ew]] fans who think his mere presence among the main cast ruins the perfect yuri dynamic of the [[Improbably Female Cast]].

* This is common in ''[[Tenchi Muyo]]!'', if for no other reason than the ''characters'' are usually already doing it themselves:

** Sakuya Kumashiro from ''Tenchi in Tokyo'' was added in as a third love interest, and [[Third Option Love Interest|was actually picked over both Ryoko and Ayeka]], leading ''both'' fan segments to hate her, which leaves her with very few fans. {{spoiler|She didn't make it to the end of the series, though.}}

** Noike from the newest ''[[Tenchi Muyo|Tenchi]]'' [[OVA]] series is also hated for this, as well as for being both a <s>borderline</s> [[Canon Sue]] and a [[Suspiciously Similar Substitute]] for the more popular [[Alternate Continuity]] character Kiyone Makibi.

** Mai is also sometimes depicted as a [[Christmas Cake|sad]] [[Mrs. Robinson|old slut]], usually when the pairing in question is Joey/Kaiba. Or Joey/anybody but her, really. Made even more annoying because Mai explicitly says [[Celibate Hero|she's got other priorities than romance]] - especially in the anime, where she ''did'' have the chance to marry a rich action star (a clear [[Captain Ersatz]] of Jean Claude Van Damme) but blew him off repeatedly and, [[Hopeless Suitor|when he wouldn't back down]], she defeated him in a duel.

** Tristan/Hiroto, when not [[Ship Mates|paired with Duke/Ryuuji]], is usually the Token Homophobe, especially in Joey/Kaiba and Yugi/Anybody. How vocal he is about it tends to depend on the level of [[Badass|Badassedness]] of the people involved.

*** The opposite also happens sometimes in Joey/Kaiba fics, with Serenity being painted as the bitchy, ungrateful little sister who wants to steal her brother's one true love. And for some reason, she's also portrayed as a bitch in Azureshipper (Seto/Anzu) fics out to steal Anzu's true love.

* Divine of ''[[Yu-Gi-Oh 5 Ds]]''. Go to a horde of Yusei/Aki-fangirls, throw in this name and watch what will happen. It's definitely not fun. Despite him dying ''twice'', which also presumably kills off the possibility of a future development of his romance with Aki in the show, the fans just can't stop bashing him and depict him raping, beating and insulting the living daylights out of her. Usually he dies a terrible death at the end of every single one of their fanfictions. In the show, it was not only made pretty clear that he never would have abused her physically nor verbally, but also shown that even ''if'' he used her for her powers, he was in fact always very caring and protective, if not gentle towards her.

** There's also the Trunks''/''[[Flat Character|Marron]] ([[Overshadowed By Awesome|Kuririn]] and [[Dark Action Girl|#18]]'s daughter) who bash Pan, and the Trunks/Pan fans who bash Marron, neither of whom have done anything to suggest a romantic rivalry. In fact, Marron doesn't do anything ''at all''. Not to mention Pan and Marron are ''never'' shown to be romantically interested in anyone at all, let alone Trunks.

** Vegeta is often turned into a wife-beater by Goku/Bulma shippers, and their portrayals of ChiChi, which, while not far off, still make her a victim of [[Character Exaggeration]]. Likewise, the portrayals of both ChiChi and Bulma by Vegeta/Goku shippers can get downright ridiculous at times.

** Let's just say that Videl isn't exactly liked by Mirai-Trunks/Gohan shippers. Or Gohan/Current-Timeline Trunks shippers. Or really, just expect some Videl-bashing from shippers who pair Gohan up with anyone who isn't Videl.

*** Piccolo/Gohan shippers either portray Videl as a horrible person or have her be the supportive best friend, depending on how old Gohan is in the fan fic.

*** There's also some Yuuichi bashing by Shizuru/Natsuki shippers, since in the manga, Natsuki's pursuing him, and he's her Key instead of Shizuru ({{spoiler|Then again, Yuuichi ''also'' gets together with Mai in the manga}}.

* The tagline to the harem anime ''[[Shuffle]]'' is ''"Which girl would you choose?"'' Better pick '''fast''', because the [[Instant Fanclub|Instant Fanclubs]] depicted in the show have carried over into the fandom, and they're just as crazy as on TV. ''Kitto Kitto Kaede'' (pro [[Yandere|Kaede Fuyou]]) and ''Ai Ai Asa'' (pro [[Bokukko|Asa Shigure]]) in particular have deep, ''deep'' vendettas against each other's characters.

* If you're a more or less sane ''[[Code Geass]]'' fan, do ''not'' mention the name Shirley Fenette in front of rabid Lelouch/C.C. or Lelouch/Kallen fans (and even then, it's probably best to isolate Lulu/C.C. and Lulu/Kallen fans from each other for a while). {{spoiler|Even after Shirley actually ''died'' for the ship.}}

** There's one message board where one poster insists that Shirley is an evil, heartless, manipulative bitch for using her father's death as an "excuse" to get closer to Lelouch, ignoring that she ''admitted'' it was selfish and apologized to Lelouch for it, and Lulu actually reciprocates her feelings to some extent. {{spoiler|Interestingly enough, compare the above to Mao's little [[Hannibal Lecture]] he gives to Shirley in Episode 14 of the first season.}}

*** Which is all incredibly amusing/distressing when you realise that {{spoiler|until Lelouch got, er, "unmasked"}}, not only was the harem ending supported by Divine Right Of Rulership and genetics (Emperor Chuck and his 108 wives, anyone?), but by ''two'' prospective haremettes, {{spoiler|the not-entirely-in-the-closet Milly and the unappreciated Kaguya.}}

**** Also amusing about the Lelouch/Kallen vs. Lelouch/C.C. debate is that, in canon, their shared feelings for Lelouch is actually the chief reason [[Tomboy and Girly Girl|Kallen and C.C.]] ''[[Lovely Angels|get along]]'', with clashes between them being purely due to [[Tsundere|their differences]] [[Sugar and Ice Personality|in personality.]]

* ''[[School Days (Visual Novel)|School Days]]'' shippers can often behave just as idiotically as [[Idiot Plot|the characters they're shipping]], if not more. Aside from the obvious Makoto-bashing ([[The Scrappy|though it's not like he doesn't deserve it]]), Sekai fans call Kotonoha a "stupid, psycho, [[Real Women Never Wear Dresses|anti-feminist]] whore" for being Makoto-obsessed to the point of [[Yandere|mental illness]], and in return Kotonoha fans just won't stop referring to Sekai as "prostitute", "traitor", "backstabber" and "hypocrite".

** It doesn't help that in the manga and some of the "bad" game endings, Sekai ''is'' seen as selfish and manipulative, instead of an impulsive and confused teen. What makes it ''even worse'' for her is that Kotonoha is ''genuinely'' crazy whenever she goes murderous or suicidal (seen by her [[Dull Eyes of Unhappiness]]), but in at least two PS2 game endings Sekai looks and acts creepily ''sane'' when she does the same.

* Oh, ''[[Princess Tutu]]'' fandom. No matter how human she is, how much she hurts for being abused by her evil father {{spoiler|and her love interest when he turns evil}} and how she actually learns from her mistakes, [[Ojou|Rue]]/[[Dark Magical Girl|Princess Kraehe]] keeps getting crap from rabid Mytho/Ahiru fans for stealing Mytho from [[Possession Sue|the Sue-fied version of Ahiru]] they have in their minds. {{spoiler|Nevermind that later Ahiru bonds much more with Mytho's [[The Lancer|companion Fakir]], and how Mytho ultimately ''chooses'' Rue as his Princess ''freely'', after she [[Calling the Old Man Out|rejects her evil father]] and pulls a [[Tear Jerker|heart-wretching]] [[Heroic Sacrifice]].}}

** Not to mention a datebook that explicitly states Ahiru's feelings for Mytho are actually those of admiration, and that {{spoiler|she's totally fallen for Fakir by the very end of the series.}}

** The series producer (or director/creator, can't remember), said that "[[Tenchi Solution|Being with only one girl isn't the only way to go]]", which could be a massive [[Take That]] to [[First Girl Wins]] and/or [[Last Girl Wins]].

*** This is false information. Kawamori (see radio broadcast in 2010) debunked the ending was a threesome and said the wings phrase was ''not'' to be taken as romantic. In fact, the series 'triangles' were not mean to be romantic (he was disappointed people presumed this by the [[Trailers Always Lie|false promotion]]). Meanwhile his scriptwriter, who was the one who convinced him to delay the resolution to the movies, had already stated in plain terms who Alto had feelings for (after the sky) in the official book. Before the movies that indeed were about a love triangle. Unsurprisingly, the romantic victor was {{spoiler|[[First Girl Wins|Sheryl]]}} all along.

** And funnily, the Itsuki/Kyon shippers are just bitter about it all: Pages and pages of Itsuki [[True Art Is Angsty|angst]], at times turning him into a [[Wangst|complete]] [[Depraved Homosexual|psycho]] concerning his inability to be with Kyon, especially because of God-Haruhi, though not [[Bury Your Gays|limited]] to it (albeit usually inside his head)... Though given his charade...

* The fanbase on at least one anime website is bitterly, bitterly divided on their opinion of [[Meido]] Siesta's overtures towards Saito in the anime ''[[Zero no Tsukaima (Light Novel)|Zero no Tsukaima]]'' complete with rabid fannish gibbering for her death. Even though, as of the second season, Saito {{spoiler|is married to his "master", Louise}}, making them a semi-official pairing.

*** There's quite a bit of [[Double Standard]] there, too. While Louise is flat-chested, moody, tempery and confused about what love and romance are, Siesta is well-endowed, sexy, aware of her good-looks and willing to use them for her own benefit. You know what that means: slut-shaming of Siesta BY THE WAZOO! (Paired with Louise over-glorification because, for lots of people, [[Abuse Is Okay When It Is Female On Male]])

** It goes both ways really, pretty much every fandom that doesn't ship Louise with Saito will paint her as complete [[Jerkass|jerkass]] with zero redeeming qualities that sometimes just abadons him outright for little to no reason; never mind the fact that not only does she deep down really cares for him and actually shows it sometimes, but that she literaly can't live without him (something made extremly clear in the novels).

** Even Tsuzuki is not spared by this trope. In some Muraki/Hisoka fics, he's portrayed as a weak, whiny and self-loathing [[Wangst]] machine who can't properly take care of Hisoka and thus has the latter running to his {{spoiler|murderer/rapist}}.

** [[Ill Girl|Ukyou Sakuraiji]] gets hate too for being {{spoiler|Muraki's [[Victorious Childhood Friend]]}}.

* Once upon a time, the ''[[Cyborg 009]]'' fandom had a buttload of this. [[Team Mom]] Francoise/003 was not only seen as "weak" [[Real Women Never Wear Dresses|because she didn't always fight]], but if you liked your yaoi (even if it didn't involve her being a "threat") it was a sort-of pre-requisite to hate her. And those who shipped her with Joe/009 fought back... by bashing the most obvious "competition", Princess Ixquic and [[Oedipus Rex|Carl Eckermann]] {{spoiler|alias Sphinx.}}

* While the Ship Wars have calmed down considerably, the ''[[Fullmetal Alchemist]]'' fandom spent some time being a major headache. The loudest were the Roy/Riza fans, who hated Ed, Havoc, Al, or anyone else who had even the remotest potential to break up their OTP, but every one of the Major Pairings had its rage-filled fans. And God forbid you were one of those who shipped multiple pairings that traded off characters, threesomes, or didn't like shipping at all.

* This happens quite often to Keiko Yukimura in ''[[Yu Yu Hakusho (Manga)|Yu Yu Hakusho]]'', as fans either love her and think she's a great match with Yusuke or hate her and usually make her out to be a jealous bitch (or kill her) so that they can pair him with Kuwabara, Kurama, Hiei, or an [[Original Character]]. The same thing also happens to {{spoiler|Mukuro}}, Hiei's {{spoiler|boss and potential love interest,}} who is made out to look like a man and be a power-hungry maniac, if she's mentioned at all, in order to facilitate his hooking up with Kurama. Which is a shame, as {{spoiler|the two share [[The Masochism Tango|a sweet, if at the same time somewhat disturbing relationship]], especially in the manga.}}

** We can't forget the hate [[The Lancer|Kuwabara]] gets for not being a bishie and turning into putty when he's next to [[An Ice Person|Yukina]], can we? Yeah, a good part of the hate isn't pairing based, but some Kurama/Yukina fans ''do'' have huge hate-ons for Kuwabara, so...

* This happens to just about every female ''[[Weiss Kreuz]]'' character who's shown some kind of romantic interest in any of the [[Everyone Is Gay|eight main characters]]. [[The Ojou|Ouka Sakaki]] probably comes off worst; despite the fact that she is both {{spoiler|Omi's cousin}} and {{spoiler|dead}}, fanficcers are still capable of transforming her into an arrogant, shallow [[Rich Bitch]] who Omi only dated because he was too polite to tell her where to go. In fact, though none of the four [[Hitman With a Heart]] regulars' love affairs last more than a few episodes and Aya's feelings for Sakura were no more than platonic, their would-be love interests are far too frequently bashed for getting in the way of the [[Ho Yay]] or a [[Mary Sue]], with [[Failure Knight|Youji's]] ex-girlfriend [[The Gwen Stacy|Asuka]], who was dead before the series even ''began'', being about the only exception.

** Even in Asuka's case, some shippers (the ones who don't make her into a [[Possession Sue]], that is) have suggested Youji only hung around with her in the first place in an attempt to prove he wasn't gay, or they sub in a [[Mary Sue]] to serve as his childhood sweetheart in her place.

** Let's take special note of the enmity growing between the Luffy/Boa and Luffy/Nami fans. Dear shippers: Luffy values people period. He'd probably think you were a loser if you hated on either Boa or Nami. Please reread the damn story to appreciate the fact it's mostly about camaraderie and these things aren't worth dwelling upon seriously. Thank you.

*** Some [[Boys Love|BL]] fans deride Nami for being an "abusive control freak" (AKA, typical type A [[Tsundere]]) and Luffy/Nami fans sometimes claim Hancock has no right to behave the way she does because ''[[Too Dumb to Live|there's no way a 12 year old slave girl could ever be seriously abused sexually or otherwise''.]]

* ''[[Black Butler (Manga)|Black Butler]]'': Elizabeth. Not only is she a [[Distressed Damsel]] {{spoiler|[[Took a Level In Badass|for a while]] }}, but she's engaged to her [[Kissing Cousins|cousin]] Ciel, which puts her ''directly'' into the way of the [[Ho Yay]] between Ciel and Sebastian. Yep, she never had a chance with the [[Yaoi Fangirl|Yaoi Fangirls]]. {{spoiler|Though now that she has revealed herself as a [[Little Miss Badass]] in the manga, Elizabeth has gained some more fan support.}}

* ''[[After School Nightmare]]'''s Kureha Fujishiro. Yeah, she's a [[Clingy Jealous Girl]] who finds solace in Mashiro's company because she [[Does Not Like Men]], but still... ''Poor, poor'' {{spoiler|horribly sexually abused}} ''Kureha''. It's only made even worse by the [[Draco in Leather Pants]] status granted to [[Casanova|Sou Mizuhashi]], Mashiro's other love interest, even when he's kind of a [[Bastard Boyfriend]]...

* The cast of ''[[Ouran High School Host Club]]'' have all fallen victim to this. Because you can rationalise pretty much any pairing with Haruhi, fanfic writers will portray any characters percieved as being in the way as evil, controlling, abusive, and the like, particularly Hikaru in Kaoru/Haruhi and vice-versa, or Mori in Honi/Haruhi, and often Tamaki in anything. Because [[Ho Yay]] can also be seen in any way you want, there's always at least one victim, usually Haruhi or that character's [[Heterosexual Life Partners|Heterosexual Life Partner]].

** On the other hand, shippers of all kinds (not only the Hayate x Nagi faction) pretty much started ''screaming'' the moment Athena entered into the picture, greatly increasing the [[Ship to Ship Combat]] since according to them, Athena ''had'' to be a stupid and evil [[Yandere]] who completely ruined Hayate's life. Yep, her [[Hidden Depths]] came ''after'' a while, but sheeesh.

** Now that Nagi and Athena have met, {{spoiler|Athena does throw something of a challenge toward an oblivious Nagi. However, said challenge is mostly of the playful, friendly competition type and displays nowhere near the vitriol (heck, no vitriol at all, for that matter) the more extreme fans of either side purport.}} So, again, the characters of the manga prove to be much more mature about the whole thing than their shippers.

** [[Cute Witch|Anna Yurievna "Anya" Cocolova]] was already seen as a bratty and bitchy [[Tsundere]] by Negi/Other Girls fans ''before'' the Negi/Asuna ship was damaged. Yes, she's a [[Bratty Half Pint]], but she's not the Little Bitch From Hell!

** Of course, one probable reason for so little of this is the fact that most shippers' attention is focused on [[Schoolgirl Lesbians|Setsuna/Konoka]], and ''everybody'' hates the [[Stalker With a Crush|major]] [[Psycho Lesbian|person]] trying to get in the way of ''that''.

* Go to the ''[[Konjiki no Gash Bell]]'' fandom and ask whether [[Girl Next Door|Suzume]] or [[Idol Singer|Megumi]] would be better for [[Kid With the Leash|Kiyomaro]]. You'll find yourself trapped between Megumi/Kiyomaro fans who scream that Suzume is [[The Ditz|too brainless]] [[Damsel in Distress|and helpless]] for him and Suzume/Kiyomaro fans who yell back that Megumi is too much of a [[Mary Sue]] to deserve Kiyomaro's love.

* [[The Messiah|Tohru Honda]]. Not only is she attacked by ''[[Fruits Basket]]'' fans for [[Real Women Never Wear Dresses|being too "weak" and "stupid"]] or "a [[Purity Sue]]", but she also comes under fire for getting in the way of [[Ho Yay|Kyo/Yuki]]. And let's not forget the hate and [[Character Exaggeration]] [[Jerk With a Heart of Gold|Kyo]] gets from rabid [[White Prince|Yuki]]/Tohru fans because {{spoiler|Tohru ended up with him and not Yuki}} even though it's also established that {{spoiler|Yuki's interest in Tohru [[Loving a Shadow|stemmed from him viewing her as a mother figure]]}}.

* ''[[Toward the Terra]]'' is largely [[Cast Full of Pretty Boys|too free of any potentially interfering female characters]] for this trope to prevail. But Artella takes a hit from it for demonstrating clear romantic interest in Tony (and actually being in a relationship with him in the manga) when fans prefer to pair him with [[The Hero|Jomy]].

* [[Ill Girl|Ill Boy]] Takaaki in ''[[Demashita Power Puff Girls Z]]'' took quite the heat from Bubbles/Boomer shippers, not to mention the general Powerpuffs/Rowdyruffs shippers who migrated to the series in hopes that the girls would hook up with their evil counterparts. Any other male that the Powerpuffs showed interest in also got skewered hard, as they weren't as "edgy or interesting" as the Rowdyruff Boys. That is, the same Rowdyruff boys who were barely major villains to begin with and only appeared in two episodes of this adaptation.

*** "Bizarrely", eh? Can you say [[Het Is Ew]]?

** [[Yuri Fan|Yuri fans]] aren't much better, since in some circles, [[Cool Big Sis|Mami]] takes lots of heat from [[Dark Magical Girl|Homura]]/[[The Messiah|Madoka]] fans. While this has been around almost from the beginning, it has been specially hard after Episode 10's revelation about {{spoiler|the Mami from the third timeline crossing the [[Despair Event Horizon]] and trying to kill everyone to spare them from becoming witches}}, which apparently means she's a "psychotic" and "weak" bitch and "inferior" to Homura. <br /><br />It's also extremely annoying to see Homura/Madoka fans compare {{spoiler|Sayaka}} unfavorably to Homura and say that because {{spoiler|Sayaka fell into despair for, among other things, a ''male'' like Kamijou}} whereas Homura {{spoiler|became a hardened shell of her old self almost exclusively for a ''female'' like Madoka}}, the first is "shallow", "offensive" and "slutty" while the second is "a beautiful and feminist woman in love". [[Double Standard|What]] [[What Measure Is a Non Badass|the]] [[Insane Troll Logic|HELL]]?!

* While the ''[[Soul Eater]]'' fandom isn't as loud with this as most other series, it still has its share. There are few cases that whenever a shipper pairs Maka up with other characters-Kid, Chrona, or even Asura- it seems that they find the need to give Soul hell. Some fans have Soul being an abusive boyfriend, a cheater, or just the [[Jerkass]] that they see him as- even though it is clearer than anything else that Soul is more devoted to Maka than most other characters could ever be and that the last thing he would ever do to her is leave her.

* The ''[[Bubblegum Crisis]] Tokyo 2040'' fandom really likes their [[Office Lady|Linna]] x [[Hot Amazon|Priss]] [[Les Yay]]. It'd be better if they didn't bash the everloving crap of the closest that Priss has to a male love interest, [[Fair Cop|Leon McNichol]]. He's not an idiot, he's not pure [[Dumb Muscle]], and damn it Priss ''does'' develop a soft spot for him and all, so he cannot be as "horrible" and "stupid" as [[Yuri Fan|Yuri Fans]] paint him.

** Juvia Loxar, while she's a generally popular character and doesn't get as much pairing-related heat as Lisanna, does get some flack for liking/being in love with Gray. Canonically, while she ''is'' a [[Clingy Jealous Girl]] around him and people (read: women and oddly, {{spoiler|Lyon}}) close to him, all in all, she's a sweet and caring person. Also, most, if not all of her antics concerning him, are pure comic relief, and later on in the manga, she ''does'' tone down her obsessive behavior. But that doesn't matter to some non-Gray/Juvia shippers (mostly Gray/Lucy fans) along with the facts Juvia is actually ''friends'' with other women (''including'' the ones she thinks are her "love rivals", such as Lucy) and does care for the guild and all its members. [[Ron the Death Eater|They just zero in on her obsessive part of her personality]], and slam her for being a total creepy bitch who won't ask Gray out like a normal person (completely ignoring how she attempted to hang out him with a couple of times after she joined Fairy Tail and asked him out to lunch) and needs to die. Or get together with {{spoiler|Lyon Bastia since Sherry is (conveniently and blessedly) out of the picture}}.

* Within the ''[[Berserk]]'' fandom, there is a radical minority of fans who never seem to give Casca, the female lead of the story, [[Real Women Never Wear Dresses|a break.]] They either hate her because they claim that she's less of an [[Action Girl]] after becoming Guts' [[Official Couple|official]] [[Love Interest]], or because [[OTP|she's not with Griffith,]] OR because she's getting in the way of [[Ho Yay|Guts being with Griffith.]] Pay close attention to her relationship with Griffith, as some fans are so steadfast at making them the [[OTP]] to ''disturbing'' degrees, the highest degree which would involve {{spoiler|downplaying the fact that Griffith sold out his friends to become a demon lord and as his very FIRST action upon become one, he horrifically rapes her to a very sadistic degree in front of Guts out of spite, which proves to rob her of her personhood, her sanity, nearly three years of her life, and to top it off, her unborn child. It's taken up a notch when some fans argue that she ''enjoyed being raped.''}} Still, some are confident that Casca well regain her senses - meaning that she will realize that she's in love with Griffith, not Guts. And if [[Face Heel Turn|Casca can't be with Griffith]] upon getting cured of her insanity? Well, [[Killed Off for Real|she's of no use then.]]

* You know [[CLAMP School Detectives]] fans are way too invested in [[Ho Yay]] shipping (This ''is'' [[CLAMP (Creator)|CLAMP]], after all) when they pour hatred on ''a kindergarten girl'' like Nagisa because Suoh likes her romantically when he could be more invested in Nokoru. Her best friend Utako manages to mostly dodge hate, mostly because she's paired up with Akira and thus she takes him outta the picture.

* There's far less of it now (thank goodness), but the pairing that got the most flak in ''[[Slayers]]'' was the [[Ship Tease|often teased]] and now more-or-less semi-official (if the light novel artist and writer's acknowledgements are to go by) Zelgadis and Amelia; generally, the mopey, callous, and bull-headed Zelgadis would be glorified whereas the [[The Pollyanna|naive yet kind-hearted]] and just Amelia would be turned into an immature, selfish princess with the intelligence of a fish and no fighting skills ([[Heroic Self Depreciation|she acknowledges her faults in the anime, even!]]). Zelgadis and Amelia would go up against Zelgadis and Lina (who is an [[Official Couple]] with Gourry). Those who do like Gourry/Lina severely tear down Gourry/Sylphiel (the latter having an [[All Love Is Unrequited|unrequited crush]] on the former) and vice versa, citing Lina's [[Comedic Sociopathy|sociopathic behavior]] and extreme selfishness.