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* Amagi Michal of ''[[Mermaid Melody Pichi Pichi Pitch]]'', a [[Clingy Jealous Girl]] ''and'' [[Ill Girl]] who is smitten with Kaito, gets this. Take out the clingy jealous part, and she's a lot like Tomoe Hotaru of ''[[Sailor Moon]]'' fame, but none of the latter's fans seem to realize this.
* Amagi Michal of ''[[Mermaid Melody Pichi Pichi Pitch]]'', a [[Clingy Jealous Girl]] ''and'' [[Ill Girl]] who is smitten with Kaito, gets this. Take out the clingy jealous part, and she's a lot like Tomoe Hotaru of ''[[Sailor Moon]]'' fame, but none of the latter's fans seem to realize this.
* Kouji and Natsu from ''[[Yes Precure 5|Yes! Precure 5]]''. The fact that they turn into [[Talking Animal]] sidekicks Coco and Nuts spurred the hatred by providing [[Squick]] as a ready excuse. They eventually found fandom support, however.
* Kouji and Natsu from ''[[Yes Precure 5|Yes! Precure 5]]''. The fact that they turn into [[Talking Animal]] sidekicks Coco and Nuts spurred the hatred by providing [[Squick]] as a ready excuse. They eventually found fandom support, however.
* A minor example in the ''[[Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha]]'' fandom: Frequenters of the AnimeSuki forum would've known the infamous 300 YU-NANO AGAINST LEGION OF FEI-NANO [[Flame War]]. And no, we're not talking about some [[Three Hundred|smelly old men]]. This [[Flame War]] was mostly fueled by irritation that Yuuno was used as a plot device and not a character -- an 'out' for the writers in case they got too scared of Nanoha/Fate. The [[Theme Park Version]] of this irritation is Yuuno Hate (at least from the Legion). But [[Poes Law]] and [[GIFT]] means there are people who will take it seriously or claim total seriousness.
* A minor example in the ''[[Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha]]'' fandom: Frequenters of the AnimeSuki forum would've known the infamous 300 YU-NANO AGAINST LEGION OF FEI-NANO [[Flame War]]. And no, we're not talking about some [[Three Hundred|smelly old men]]. This [[Flame War]] was mostly fueled by irritation that Yuuno was used as a plot device and not a character -- an 'out' for the writers in case they got too scared of Nanoha/Fate. The [[Theme Park Version]] of this irritation is Yuuno Hate (at least from the Legion). But [[Poe's Law]] and [[GIFT]] means there are people who will take it seriously or claim total seriousness.
** Even though [[The One Guy|Erio]] has managed to escape the brunt of bashing due to being overtly [[Puppy Love|shipped]] with Caro, preventing him from being a threat to the main pairings, he still gets "Erio must die" vitriol every now and then from [[Het Is Ew]] fans who think his mere presence among the main cast ruins the perfect yuri dynamic of the [[Improbably Female Cast]].
** Even though [[The One Guy|Erio]] has managed to escape the brunt of bashing due to being overtly [[Puppy Love|shipped]] with Caro, preventing him from being a threat to the main pairings, he still gets "Erio must die" vitriol every now and then from [[Het Is Ew]] fans who think his mere presence among the main cast ruins the perfect yuri dynamic of the [[Improbably Female Cast]].
* This is common in ''[[Tenchi Muyo]]!'', if for no other reason than the ''characters'' are usually already doing it themselves:
* This is common in ''[[Tenchi Muyo]]!'', if for no other reason than the ''characters'' are usually already doing it themselves:
** Princess Ayeka is hated by the pro-Ryoko''/''pro-Tenchi x Ryoko fans. The reverse is also true, particularly those familiar with the [[Alternate Continuity]] ''Tenchi Universe'' TV series and movie ''Tenchi Forever'', which [[Spot Light Stealing Squad|show a slant in Ryoko's direction]]. Still, the hatred against Ayeka was practically there pretty much from the start, since some Ryoko fans deemed Ryoko [[Real Women Never Wear Dresses|as stronger and more worthy because she was less traditionally feminine]] than the more proper, moody and comically prissy Ayeka.
** Princess Ayeka is hated by the pro-Ryoko''/''pro-Tenchi x Ryoko fans. The reverse is also true, particularly those familiar with the [[Alternate Continuity]] ''Tenchi Universe'' TV series and movie ''Tenchi Forever'', which [[Spotlight-Stealing Squad|show a slant in Ryoko's direction]]. Still, the hatred against Ayeka was practically there pretty much from the start, since some Ryoko fans deemed Ryoko [[Real Women Never Wear Dresses|as stronger and more worthy because she was less traditionally feminine]] than the more proper, moody and comically prissy Ayeka.
** Sakuya Kumashiro from ''Tenchi in Tokyo'' was added in as a third love interest, and [[Third Option Love Interest|was actually picked over both Ryoko and Ayeka]], leading ''both'' fan segments to hate her, which leaves her with very few fans. {{spoiler|She didn't make it to the end of the series, though.}}
** Sakuya Kumashiro from ''Tenchi in Tokyo'' was added in as a third love interest, and [[Third Option Love Interest|was actually picked over both Ryoko and Ayeka]], leading ''both'' fan segments to hate her, which leaves her with very few fans. {{spoiler|She didn't make it to the end of the series, though.}}
** Noike from the newest ''[[Tenchi Muyo|Tenchi]]'' [[OVA]] series is also hated for this, as well as for being both a <s>borderline</s> [[Canon Sue]] and a [[Suspiciously Similar Substitute]] for the more popular [[Alternate Continuity]] character Kiyone Makibi.
** Noike from the newest ''[[Tenchi Muyo|Tenchi]]'' [[OVA]] series is also hated for this, as well as for being both a <s>borderline</s> [[Canon Sue]] and a [[Suspiciously Similar Substitute]] for the more popular [[Alternate Continuity]] character Kiyone Makibi.
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** Mai is also sometimes depicted as a [[Christmas Cake|sad]] [[Mrs. Robinson|old slut]], usually when the pairing in question is Joey/Kaiba. Or Joey/anybody but her, really. Made even more annoying because Mai explicitly says [[Celibate Hero|she's got other priorities than romance]] - especially in the anime, where she ''did'' have the chance to marry a rich action star (a clear [[Captain Ersatz]] of Jean Claude Van Damme) but blew him off repeatedly and, [[Hopeless Suitor|when he wouldn't back down]], she defeated him in a duel.
** Mai is also sometimes depicted as a [[Christmas Cake|sad]] [[Mrs. Robinson|old slut]], usually when the pairing in question is Joey/Kaiba. Or Joey/anybody but her, really. Made even more annoying because Mai explicitly says [[Celibate Hero|she's got other priorities than romance]] - especially in the anime, where she ''did'' have the chance to marry a rich action star (a clear [[Captain Ersatz]] of Jean Claude Van Damme) but blew him off repeatedly and, [[Hopeless Suitor|when he wouldn't back down]], she defeated him in a duel.
** Tristan/Hiroto, when not [[Ship Mates|paired with Duke/Ryuuji]], is usually the Token Homophobe, especially in Joey/Kaiba and Yugi/Anybody. How vocal he is about it tends to depend on the level of [[Badass|Badassedness]] of the people involved.
** Tristan/Hiroto, when not [[Ship Mates|paired with Duke/Ryuuji]], is usually the Token Homophobe, especially in Joey/Kaiba and Yugi/Anybody. How vocal he is about it tends to depend on the level of [[Badass|Badassedness]] of the people involved.
** In some Kaiba/Shizuka(Serenity) fics, Joey quickly turns [[Knight Templar Big Brother|Knight's Templar Big Brother]] when he finds out about their relationship and then cranks it [[Up to Eleven]]. This can happen on both sides if Serenity is paired up with Kaiba's little brother, Mokuba, sometimes resulting in [[Star Crossed Lovers]].
** In some Kaiba/Shizuka(Serenity) fics, Joey quickly turns [[Knight Templar Big Brother|Knight's Templar Big Brother]] when he finds out about their relationship and then cranks it [[Up to Eleven]]. This can happen on both sides if Serenity is paired up with Kaiba's little brother, Mokuba, sometimes resulting in [[Star-Crossed Lovers]].
*** The opposite also happens sometimes in Joey/Kaiba fics, with Serenity being painted as the bitchy, ungrateful little sister who wants to steal her brother's one true love. And for some reason, she's also portrayed as a bitch in Azureshipper (Seto/Anzu) fics out to steal Anzu's true love.
*** The opposite also happens sometimes in Joey/Kaiba fics, with Serenity being painted as the bitchy, ungrateful little sister who wants to steal her brother's one true love. And for some reason, she's also portrayed as a bitch in Azureshipper (Seto/Anzu) fics out to steal Anzu's true love.
* Divine of ''[[Yu-Gi-Oh 5 Ds]]''. Go to a horde of Yusei/Aki-fangirls, throw in this name and watch what will happen. It's definitely not fun. Despite him dying ''twice'', which also presumably kills off the possibility of a future development of his romance with Aki in the show, the fans just can't stop bashing him and depict him raping, beating and insulting the living daylights out of her. Usually he dies a terrible death at the end of every single one of their fanfictions. In the show, it was not only made pretty clear that he never would have abused her physically nor verbally, but also shown that even ''if'' he used her for her powers, he was in fact always very caring and protective, if not gentle towards her.
* Divine of ''[[Yu-Gi-Oh 5 Ds]]''. Go to a horde of Yusei/Aki-fangirls, throw in this name and watch what will happen. It's definitely not fun. Despite him dying ''twice'', which also presumably kills off the possibility of a future development of his romance with Aki in the show, the fans just can't stop bashing him and depict him raping, beating and insulting the living daylights out of her. Usually he dies a terrible death at the end of every single one of their fanfictions. In the show, it was not only made pretty clear that he never would have abused her physically nor verbally, but also shown that even ''if'' he used her for her powers, he was in fact always very caring and protective, if not gentle towards her.
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** There's also the Trunks''/''[[Flat Character|Marron]] ([[Overshadowed By Awesome|Kuririn]] and [[Dark Action Girl|#18]]'s daughter) who bash Pan, and the Trunks/Pan fans who bash Marron, neither of whom have done anything to suggest a romantic rivalry. In fact, Marron doesn't do anything ''at all''. Not to mention Pan and Marron are ''never'' shown to be romantically interested in anyone at all, let alone Trunks.
** There's also the Trunks''/''[[Flat Character|Marron]] ([[Overshadowed By Awesome|Kuririn]] and [[Dark Action Girl|#18]]'s daughter) who bash Pan, and the Trunks/Pan fans who bash Marron, neither of whom have done anything to suggest a romantic rivalry. In fact, Marron doesn't do anything ''at all''. Not to mention Pan and Marron are ''never'' shown to be romantically interested in anyone at all, let alone Trunks.
** Vegeta is often turned into a wife-beater by Goku/Bulma shippers, and their portrayals of ChiChi, which, while not far off, still make her a victim of [[Character Exaggeration]]. Likewise, the portrayals of both ChiChi and Bulma by Vegeta/Goku shippers can get downright ridiculous at times.
** Vegeta is often turned into a wife-beater by Goku/Bulma shippers, and their portrayals of ChiChi, which, while not far off, still make her a victim of [[Character Exaggeration]]. Likewise, the portrayals of both ChiChi and Bulma by Vegeta/Goku shippers can get downright ridiculous at times.
** Goten/[[Flat Character|Bra]] vs. Goten/Marron vs. Goten [[Spell My Name With an S|Palace//Paris/Valese]] is another popular shipwar. Palace-bashers accuse her of being "retarded" for not knowing how to eat ice cream and make her out to be either a brain-dead valley girl or a conniving witch who wants to ruin Goten's life. Marron is also hated and accused of being a "skank" by her detractors. And Bra wearing a skimpy outfit and being a bit of a primadonna? Must mean she's that mean girl in high school that spread her legs for everyone, if you follow the shipwar logic.
** Goten/[[Flat Character|Bra]] vs. Goten/Marron vs. Goten [[Spell My Name With an "S"|Palace//Paris/Valese]] is another popular shipwar. Palace-bashers accuse her of being "retarded" for not knowing how to eat ice cream and make her out to be either a brain-dead valley girl or a conniving witch who wants to ruin Goten's life. Marron is also hated and accused of being a "skank" by her detractors. And Bra wearing a skimpy outfit and being a bit of a primadonna? Must mean she's that mean girl in high school that spread her legs for everyone, if you follow the shipwar logic.
** Let's just say that Videl isn't exactly liked by Mirai-Trunks/Gohan shippers. Or Gohan/Current-Timeline Trunks shippers. Or really, just expect some Videl-bashing from shippers who pair Gohan up with anyone who isn't Videl.
** Let's just say that Videl isn't exactly liked by Mirai-Trunks/Gohan shippers. Or Gohan/Current-Timeline Trunks shippers. Or really, just expect some Videl-bashing from shippers who pair Gohan up with anyone who isn't Videl.
*** Piccolo/Gohan shippers either portray Videl as a horrible person or have her be the supportive best friend, depending on how old Gohan is in the fan fic.
*** Piccolo/Gohan shippers either portray Videl as a horrible person or have her be the supportive best friend, depending on how old Gohan is in the fan fic.
* There appears to be quite a bit of animosity in the ''[[Mai-HiME (Anime)|Mai-HiME]]'' shipping camp between those deciding whether to pair [[Tall Dark and Bishoujo|Natsuki Kuga]] exclusively with Shizuru Fujino (Natsuki's most important person in HiME and her schoolgirl crush in Otome, a dyed-in-the-wool [[Schoolgirl Lesbians|Schoolgirl/School Supervisor Lesbian]] with an obvious crush on her) or Nao Yuuki (who [[Foe Yay|teases her]] [[Les Yay|like crazy]] in ''[[Mai-Otome (Anime)|Mai-Otome]]''), with fans of one pairing painting the designated "third wheel" as an evil harpy deserving of death (despite ''both'' Shizuru and Nao being examples of [[Draco in Leather Pants]]).
* There appears to be quite a bit of animosity in the ''[[Mai-HiME (Anime)|Mai-HiME]]'' shipping camp between those deciding whether to pair [[Tall, Dark and Bishoujo|Natsuki Kuga]] exclusively with Shizuru Fujino (Natsuki's most important person in HiME and her schoolgirl crush in Otome, a dyed-in-the-wool [[Schoolgirl Lesbians|Schoolgirl/School Supervisor Lesbian]] with an obvious crush on her) or Nao Yuuki (who [[Foe Yay|teases her]] [[Les Yay|like crazy]] in ''[[Mai-Otome (Anime)|Mai-Otome]]''), with fans of one pairing painting the designated "third wheel" as an evil harpy deserving of death (despite ''both'' Shizuru and Nao being examples of [[Draco in Leather Pants]]).
** Ignoring the non-shippers who [[The Scrappy|dislike]] male lead character Yuuichi Tate for being [[Non Action Guy|largely useless]] (and [[Spot Light Stealing Squad|stealing the spotlight in the manga]], to the point that some fans have [[Discontinuity/Anime|sworn off the manga adaptation entirely]] simply because he's in it), those who write him in fanfic at all keep [[The Hero|Mai Tokiha]] the hell away from him [[Fan Preferred Couple|in favor of hooking her up with]] [[Cute Bruiser|Mikoto Minagi]]. This is complicated even further because of the constant [[Les Yay]] Mai and Mikoto share on-screen, and because {{spoiler|even though Mai feels like she'd be better as Mikoto's [[Cool Big Sis]], she actually tells ''Mikoto'' "I love you" ''before'' saying the same about Tate, even in the final episode's [[Omake]].}}
** Ignoring the non-shippers who [[The Scrappy|dislike]] male lead character Yuuichi Tate for being [[Non-Action Guy|largely useless]] (and [[Spotlight-Stealing Squad|stealing the spotlight in the manga]], to the point that some fans have [[Discontinuity/Anime|sworn off the manga adaptation entirely]] simply because he's in it), those who write him in fanfic at all keep [[The Hero|Mai Tokiha]] the hell away from him [[Fan Preferred Couple|in favor of hooking her up with]] [[Cute Bruiser|Mikoto Minagi]]. This is complicated even further because of the constant [[Les Yay]] Mai and Mikoto share on-screen, and because {{spoiler|even though Mai feels like she'd be better as Mikoto's [[Cool Big Sis]], she actually tells ''Mikoto'' "I love you" ''before'' saying the same about Tate, even in the final episode's [[Omake]].}}
*** There's also some Yuuichi bashing by Shizuru/Natsuki shippers, since in the manga, Natsuki's pursuing him, and he's her Key instead of Shizuru ({{spoiler|Then again, Yuuichi ''also'' gets together with Mai in the manga}}.
*** There's also some Yuuichi bashing by Shizuru/Natsuki shippers, since in the manga, Natsuki's pursuing him, and he's her Key instead of Shizuru ({{spoiler|Then again, Yuuichi ''also'' gets together with Mai in the manga}}.
** Rabid Shizuru/Natsuki fans have also bashed [[Tall Dark and Snarky|Reito Kanzaki]], vice president of the [[Absurdly Powerful Student Council]] Shizuru leads. Oddly enough, he shows no interest in Shizuru [[Platonic Life Partners|aside of friendship]] and has a crush ''on Mai'' in canon, but the Mai/Mikoto fans are ''not'' out for his blood. {{spoiler|The fact that Reito is Mikoto's older brother as well as [[Demonic Possession|the vessel]] for the [[Big Bad]] doesn't seem to bother them that much.}}
** Rabid Shizuru/Natsuki fans have also bashed [[Tall, Dark and Snarky|Reito Kanzaki]], vice president of the [[Absurdly Powerful Student Council]] Shizuru leads. Oddly enough, he shows no interest in Shizuru [[Platonic Life Partners|aside of friendship]] and has a crush ''on Mai'' in canon, but the Mai/Mikoto fans are ''not'' out for his blood. {{spoiler|The fact that Reito is Mikoto's older brother as well as [[Demonic Possession|the vessel]] for the [[Big Bad]] doesn't seem to bother them that much.}}
* Speaking of ''[[Mai-Otome (Anime)|Mai-Otome]]'', many shippers of the [[Beta Couple|Akane/Kazuya pairing]] (yes, they exist) would like nothing better than [[Dark Skinned Blond|Mahya]] falling down the stairs and breaking a leg or something, for the annoying "crime" of [[Moment Killer|interrupting any romantic moment between the two]] and generally acting like Garderobe's "romance police". Mahya is not a romantic rival, to be sure, but she still ''does'' get in the way of the pairing.
* Speaking of ''[[Mai-Otome (Anime)|Mai-Otome]]'', many shippers of the [[Beta Couple|Akane/Kazuya pairing]] (yes, they exist) would like nothing better than [[Dark-Skinned Blond|Mahya]] falling down the stairs and breaking a leg or something, for the annoying "crime" of [[Moment Killer|interrupting any romantic moment between the two]] and generally acting like Garderobe's "romance police". Mahya is not a romantic rival, to be sure, but she still ''does'' get in the way of the pairing.
** Shizuru/Natsuki fans who follow ''Otome'' also don't like [[Psycho Lesbian|Tomoe Marguerite]], and make up a large section of her [[The Scrappy|anti-fandom]]. It doesn't help Tomoe's case that she actually ''does'' attempt to hurt/kill people {{spoiler|(even going as far as to willingly join the bad guys)}} so that she can be the only one to get Shizuru's eye/pants... though {{spoiler|[[I Have You Now My Pretty|the kiss]]}} was likely the straw that broke the [[Nanomachines]]-powered camel's back.
** Shizuru/Natsuki fans who follow ''Otome'' also don't like [[Psycho Lesbian|Tomoe Marguerite]], and make up a large section of her [[The Scrappy|anti-fandom]]. It doesn't help Tomoe's case that she actually ''does'' attempt to hurt/kill people {{spoiler|(even going as far as to willingly join the bad guys)}} so that she can be the only one to get Shizuru's eye/pants... though {{spoiler|[[I Have You Now, My Pretty|the kiss]]}} was likely the straw that broke the [[Nanomachines]]-powered camel's back.
* The tagline to the harem anime ''[[Shuffle]]'' is ''"Which girl would you choose?"'' Better pick '''fast''', because the [[Instant Fanclub|Instant Fanclubs]] depicted in the show have carried over into the fandom, and they're just as crazy as on TV. ''Kitto Kitto Kaede'' (pro [[Yandere|Kaede Fuyou]]) and ''Ai Ai Asa'' (pro [[Bokukko|Asa Shigure]]) in particular have deep, ''deep'' vendettas against each other's characters.
* The tagline to the harem anime ''[[Shuffle]]'' is ''"Which girl would you choose?"'' Better pick '''fast''', because the [[Instant Fanclub|Instant Fanclubs]] depicted in the show have carried over into the fandom, and they're just as crazy as on TV. ''Kitto Kitto Kaede'' (pro [[Yandere|Kaede Fuyou]]) and ''Ai Ai Asa'' (pro [[Bokukko|Asa Shigure]]) in particular have deep, ''deep'' vendettas against each other's characters.
* In ''[[Romeo X Juliet]]'', [[Mad Scientists Beautiful Daughter|Mad Dictator's Handsome Son]] Romeo Candorebanto Montague has a [[Romantic False Lead|fiancee]] named Hermione. She's sweet, has an odd hairstyle, starts as a [[Proper Lady]] but has an episode that features her as a momentary [[Yandere]], and is in between Romeo's destined love with a Juliet portrayed as a mix of [[Bifauxnen]] and [[Action Girl]] for plot reasons. Of ''course'', no matter how [[The Woobie|sympathetic]] [[Romantic Runner Up|she is]] in canon (which is rare for a [[Romantic False Lead]]), a good part of the fandom sees Hermione as an evil, stupid slut who must die so the strong and cool Juliet can have her Romeo, [[Leet Lingo|kthxbai]].
* In ''[[Romeo X Juliet]]'', [[Mad Scientist's Beautiful Daughter|Mad Dictator's Handsome Son]] Romeo Candorebanto Montague has a [[Romantic False Lead|fiancee]] named Hermione. She's sweet, has an odd hairstyle, starts as a [[Proper Lady]] but has an episode that features her as a momentary [[Yandere]], and is in between Romeo's destined love with a Juliet portrayed as a mix of [[Bifauxnen]] and [[Action Girl]] for plot reasons. Of ''course'', no matter how [[The Woobie|sympathetic]] [[Romantic Runner Up|she is]] in canon (which is rare for a [[Romantic False Lead]]), a good part of the fandom sees Hermione as an evil, stupid slut who must die so the strong and cool Juliet can have her Romeo, [[Leet Lingo|kthxbai]].
* If you're a more or less sane ''[[Code Geass]]'' fan, do ''not'' mention the name Shirley Fenette in front of rabid Lelouch/C.C. or Lelouch/Kallen fans (and even then, it's probably best to isolate Lulu/C.C. and Lulu/Kallen fans from each other for a while). {{spoiler|Even after Shirley actually ''died'' for the ship.}}
* If you're a more or less sane ''[[Code Geass]]'' fan, do ''not'' mention the name Shirley Fenette in front of rabid Lelouch/C.C. or Lelouch/Kallen fans (and even then, it's probably best to isolate Lulu/C.C. and Lulu/Kallen fans from each other for a while). {{spoiler|Even after Shirley actually ''died'' for the ship.}}
** There's one message board where one poster insists that Shirley is an evil, heartless, manipulative bitch for using her father's death as an "excuse" to get closer to Lelouch, ignoring that she ''admitted'' it was selfish and apologized to Lelouch for it, and Lulu actually reciprocates her feelings to some extent. {{spoiler|Interestingly enough, compare the above to Mao's little [[Hannibal Lecture]] he gives to Shirley in Episode 14 of the first season.}}
** There's one message board where one poster insists that Shirley is an evil, heartless, manipulative bitch for using her father's death as an "excuse" to get closer to Lelouch, ignoring that she ''admitted'' it was selfish and apologized to Lelouch for it, and Lulu actually reciprocates her feelings to some extent. {{spoiler|Interestingly enough, compare the above to Mao's little [[Hannibal Lecture]] he gives to Shirley in Episode 14 of the first season.}}
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*** Which is all incredibly amusing/distressing when you realise that {{spoiler|until Lelouch got, er, "unmasked"}}, not only was the harem ending supported by Divine Right Of Rulership and genetics (Emperor Chuck and his 108 wives, anyone?), but by ''two'' prospective haremettes, {{spoiler|the not-entirely-in-the-closet Milly and the unappreciated Kaguya.}}
*** Which is all incredibly amusing/distressing when you realise that {{spoiler|until Lelouch got, er, "unmasked"}}, not only was the harem ending supported by Divine Right Of Rulership and genetics (Emperor Chuck and his 108 wives, anyone?), but by ''two'' prospective haremettes, {{spoiler|the not-entirely-in-the-closet Milly and the unappreciated Kaguya.}}
**** Also amusing about the Lelouch/Kallen vs. Lelouch/C.C. debate is that, in canon, their shared feelings for Lelouch is actually the chief reason [[Tomboy and Girly Girl|Kallen and C.C.]] ''[[Lovely Angels|get along]]'', with clashes between them being purely due to [[Tsundere|their differences]] [[Sugar and Ice Personality|in personality.]]
**** Also amusing about the Lelouch/Kallen vs. Lelouch/C.C. debate is that, in canon, their shared feelings for Lelouch is actually the chief reason [[Tomboy and Girly Girl|Kallen and C.C.]] ''[[Lovely Angels|get along]]'', with clashes between them being purely due to [[Tsundere|their differences]] [[Sugar and Ice Personality|in personality.]]
* In regards to ''[[Kaleido Star]]'', [[Non Action Guy|Kenneth "Ken" Robbins]] has a crush on [[Genki Girl|Sora Naegino]], the ''very'' femslashable female lead, but has so far escaped from the [[Girls Love|yuri fans]]' rage. But those who ship Sora with the second season's [[White Haired Pretty Boy]] Leon Oswald have ''huge'' hate-ons for Leon's partner, the arrogant and child-like [[Anime Chinese Girl]] May Wong, and deny her [[Character Development]] to make her look like a bad, bad bitch.
* In regards to ''[[Kaleido Star]]'', [[Non-Action Guy|Kenneth "Ken" Robbins]] has a crush on [[Genki Girl|Sora Naegino]], the ''very'' femslashable female lead, but has so far escaped from the [[Girls Love|yuri fans]]' rage. But those who ship Sora with the second season's [[White-Haired Pretty Boy]] Leon Oswald have ''huge'' hate-ons for Leon's partner, the arrogant and child-like [[Anime Chinese Girl]] May Wong, and deny her [[Character Development]] to make her look like a bad, bad bitch.
* ''[[School Days (Visual Novel)|School Days]]'' shippers can often behave just as idiotically as [[Idiot Plot|the characters they're shipping]], if not more. Aside from the obvious Makoto-bashing ([[The Scrappy|though it's not like he doesn't deserve it]]), Sekai fans call Kotonoha a "stupid, psycho, [[Real Women Never Wear Dresses|anti-feminist]] whore" for being Makoto-obsessed to the point of [[Yandere|mental illness]], and in return Kotonoha fans just won't stop referring to Sekai as "prostitute", "traitor", "backstabber" and "hypocrite".
* ''[[School Days (Visual Novel)|School Days]]'' shippers can often behave just as idiotically as [[Idiot Plot|the characters they're shipping]], if not more. Aside from the obvious Makoto-bashing ([[The Scrappy|though it's not like he doesn't deserve it]]), Sekai fans call Kotonoha a "stupid, psycho, [[Real Women Never Wear Dresses|anti-feminist]] whore" for being Makoto-obsessed to the point of [[Yandere|mental illness]], and in return Kotonoha fans just won't stop referring to Sekai as "prostitute", "traitor", "backstabber" and "hypocrite".
** It doesn't help that in the manga and some of the "bad" game endings, Sekai ''is'' seen as selfish and manipulative, instead of an impulsive and confused teen. What makes it ''even worse'' for her is that Kotonoha is ''genuinely'' crazy whenever she goes murderous or suicidal (seen by her [[Dull Eyes of Unhappiness]]), but in at least two PS2 game endings Sekai looks and acts creepily ''sane'' when she does the same.
** It doesn't help that in the manga and some of the "bad" game endings, Sekai ''is'' seen as selfish and manipulative, instead of an impulsive and confused teen. What makes it ''even worse'' for her is that Kotonoha is ''genuinely'' crazy whenever she goes murderous or suicidal (seen by her [[Dull Eyes of Unhappiness]]), but in at least two PS2 game endings Sekai looks and acts creepily ''sane'' when she does the same.
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* Oh, ''[[Princess Tutu]]'' fandom. No matter how human she is, how much she hurts for being abused by her evil father {{spoiler|and her love interest when he turns evil}} and how she actually learns from her mistakes, [[Ojou|Rue]]/[[Dark Magical Girl|Princess Kraehe]] keeps getting crap from rabid Mytho/Ahiru fans for stealing Mytho from [[Possession Sue|the Sue-fied version of Ahiru]] they have in their minds. {{spoiler|Nevermind that later Ahiru bonds much more with Mytho's [[The Lancer|companion Fakir]], and how Mytho ultimately ''chooses'' Rue as his Princess ''freely'', after she [[Calling the Old Man Out|rejects her evil father]] and pulls a [[Tear Jerker|heart-wretching]] [[Heroic Sacrifice]].}}
* Oh, ''[[Princess Tutu]]'' fandom. No matter how human she is, how much she hurts for being abused by her evil father {{spoiler|and her love interest when he turns evil}} and how she actually learns from her mistakes, [[Ojou|Rue]]/[[Dark Magical Girl|Princess Kraehe]] keeps getting crap from rabid Mytho/Ahiru fans for stealing Mytho from [[Possession Sue|the Sue-fied version of Ahiru]] they have in their minds. {{spoiler|Nevermind that later Ahiru bonds much more with Mytho's [[The Lancer|companion Fakir]], and how Mytho ultimately ''chooses'' Rue as his Princess ''freely'', after she [[Calling the Old Man Out|rejects her evil father]] and pulls a [[Tear Jerker|heart-wretching]] [[Heroic Sacrifice]].}}
** Not to mention a datebook that explicitly states Ahiru's feelings for Mytho are actually those of admiration, and that {{spoiler|she's totally fallen for Fakir by the very end of the series.}}
** Not to mention a datebook that explicitly states Ahiru's feelings for Mytho are actually those of admiration, and that {{spoiler|she's totally fallen for Fakir by the very end of the series.}}
* The ''[[Marmalade Boy]]'' fandom, surprisingly, doesn't bash the people involved in the ridiculously huge [[Love Dodecahedron]] ''that'' much (outside of hating [[The Brainless Beauty|Jinny Golding]] for pulling [[What an Idiot|something so stupid]] that [[My God What Have I Done|even]] ''[[My God What Have I Done|she]]'' [[My God What Have I Done|regrets it later]]... but the hardest, cruelest bashing actually piles up on handsome teacher Shinichi "Nat-chan" Namura, who's the love interest of Miki's best friend [[Ojou|Meiko Akizuki]]. Yes, this is one of the cases where a [[Hot for Student]] situation is developed ''sympathetically'', but the fans who ship Meiko with [[White Prince|Satoshi Miwa]] just will ''not'' stop calling Namura-sensei "pedophile" or "asshole who makes Meiko suffer for nothing". {{spoiler|Even after Satoshi sees he cannot sway Meiko away from Namura and pulls an [[I Want My Beloved to Be Happy]] along with Namura's [[Unlucky Childhood Friend]], Ryouko-sensei.}}
* The ''[[Marmalade Boy]]'' fandom, surprisingly, doesn't bash the people involved in the ridiculously huge [[Love Dodecahedron]] ''that'' much (outside of hating [[The Brainless Beauty|Jinny Golding]] for pulling [[What an Idiot!|something so stupid]] that [[My God, What Have I Done?|even]] ''[[My God, What Have I Done?|she]]'' [[My God, What Have I Done?|regrets it later]]... but the hardest, cruelest bashing actually piles up on handsome teacher Shinichi "Nat-chan" Namura, who's the love interest of Miki's best friend [[Ojou|Meiko Akizuki]]. Yes, this is one of the cases where a [[Hot for Student]] situation is developed ''sympathetically'', but the fans who ship Meiko with [[White Prince|Satoshi Miwa]] just will ''not'' stop calling Namura-sensei "pedophile" or "asshole who makes Meiko suffer for nothing". {{spoiler|Even after Satoshi sees he cannot sway Meiko away from Namura and pulls an [[I Want My Beloved to Be Happy]] along with Namura's [[Unlucky Childhood Friend]], Ryouko-sensei.}}
* In a Ranka vs. Sheryl debate on a ''[[Macross Frontier]]'' forum thread, Ranka gets criticized for being a "barely legal loli [[Moe Moe|moeblob]]", while Sheryl gets flak for her overly flirty attitude and [[Rich Bitch|her somewhat selfish, overbearing personality]], even if onscreen, when both are not being rivals to each other about Alto, they have somewhat of a [[Sempai Kohai]] relationship, and care for each other a lot (which has more than a [[Les Yay]] whiff, for some).
* In a Ranka vs. Sheryl debate on a ''[[Macross Frontier]]'' forum thread, Ranka gets criticized for being a "barely legal loli [[Moe Moe|moeblob]]", while Sheryl gets flak for her overly flirty attitude and [[Rich Bitch|her somewhat selfish, overbearing personality]], even if onscreen, when both are not being rivals to each other about Alto, they have somewhat of a [[Sempai-Kohai]] relationship, and care for each other a lot (which has more than a [[Les Yay]] whiff, for some).
** The series producer (or director/creator, can't remember), said that "[[Tenchi Solution|Being with only one girl isn't the only way to go]]", which could be a massive [[Take That]] to [[First Girl Wins]] and/or [[Last Girl Wins]].
** The series producer (or director/creator, can't remember), said that "[[Tenchi Solution|Being with only one girl isn't the only way to go]]", which could be a massive [[Take That]] to [[First Girl Wins]] and/or [[Last Girl Wins]].
*** This is false information. Kawamori (see radio broadcast in 2010) debunked the ending was a threesome and said the wings phrase was ''not'' to be taken as romantic. In fact, the series 'triangles' were not mean to be romantic (he was disappointed people presumed this by the [[Trailers Always Lie|false promotion]]). Meanwhile his scriptwriter, who was the one who convinced him to delay the resolution to the movies, had already stated in plain terms who Alto had feelings for (after the sky) in the official book. Before the movies that indeed were about a love triangle. Unsurprisingly, the romantic victor was {{spoiler|[[First Girl Wins|Sheryl]]}} all along.
*** This is false information. Kawamori (see radio broadcast in 2010) debunked the ending was a threesome and said the wings phrase was ''not'' to be taken as romantic. In fact, the series 'triangles' were not mean to be romantic (he was disappointed people presumed this by the [[Trailers Always Lie|false promotion]]). Meanwhile his scriptwriter, who was the one who convinced him to delay the resolution to the movies, had already stated in plain terms who Alto had feelings for (after the sky) in the official book. Before the movies that indeed were about a love triangle. Unsurprisingly, the romantic victor was {{spoiler|[[First Girl Wins|Sheryl]]}} all along.
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** And funnily, the Itsuki/Kyon shippers are just bitter about it all: Pages and pages of Itsuki [[True Art Is Angsty|angst]], at times turning him into a [[Wangst|complete]] [[Depraved Homosexual|psycho]] concerning his inability to be with Kyon, especially because of God-Haruhi, though not [[Bury Your Gays|limited]] to it (albeit usually inside his head)... Though given his charade...
** And funnily, the Itsuki/Kyon shippers are just bitter about it all: Pages and pages of Itsuki [[True Art Is Angsty|angst]], at times turning him into a [[Wangst|complete]] [[Depraved Homosexual|psycho]] concerning his inability to be with Kyon, especially because of God-Haruhi, though not [[Bury Your Gays|limited]] to it (albeit usually inside his head)... Though given his charade...
* The fanbase on at least one anime website is bitterly, bitterly divided on their opinion of [[Meido]] Siesta's overtures towards Saito in the anime ''[[Zero no Tsukaima (Light Novel)|Zero no Tsukaima]]'' complete with rabid fannish gibbering for her death. Even though, as of the second season, Saito {{spoiler|is married to his "master", Louise}}, making them a semi-official pairing.
* The fanbase on at least one anime website is bitterly, bitterly divided on their opinion of [[Meido]] Siesta's overtures towards Saito in the anime ''[[Zero no Tsukaima (Light Novel)|Zero no Tsukaima]]'' complete with rabid fannish gibbering for her death. Even though, as of the second season, Saito {{spoiler|is married to his "master", Louise}}, making them a semi-official pairing.
** Which is incredibly confusing since Siesta is generally, and '''consistently''', kind and caring towards Saito while Louise has a [[Hair Trigger Temper]] and will beat him into an inch of his life, well after she develops feelings for him.
** Which is incredibly confusing since Siesta is generally, and '''consistently''', kind and caring towards Saito while Louise has a [[Hair-Trigger Temper]] and will beat him into an inch of his life, well after she develops feelings for him.
*** There's quite a bit of [[Double Standard]] there, too. While Louise is flat-chested, moody, tempery and confused about what love and romance are, Siesta is well-endowed, sexy, aware of her good-looks and willing to use them for her own benefit. You know what that means: slut-shaming of Siesta BY THE WAZOO! (Paired with Louise over-glorification because, for lots of people, [[Abuse Is Okay When It Is Female On Male]])
*** There's quite a bit of [[Double Standard]] there, too. While Louise is flat-chested, moody, tempery and confused about what love and romance are, Siesta is well-endowed, sexy, aware of her good-looks and willing to use them for her own benefit. You know what that means: slut-shaming of Siesta BY THE WAZOO! (Paired with Louise over-glorification because, for lots of people, [[Abuse Is Okay When It Is Female On Male]])
** It goes both ways really, pretty much every fandom that doesn't ship Louise with Saito will paint her as complete [[Jerkass|jerkass]] with zero redeeming qualities that sometimes just abadons him outright for little to no reason; never mind the fact that not only does she deep down really cares for him and actually shows it sometimes, but that she literaly can't live without him (something made extremly clear in the novels).
** It goes both ways really, pretty much every fandom that doesn't ship Louise with Saito will paint her as complete [[Jerkass|jerkass]] with zero redeeming qualities that sometimes just abadons him outright for little to no reason; never mind the fact that not only does she deep down really cares for him and actually shows it sometimes, but that she literaly can't live without him (something made extremly clear in the novels).
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** Even Tsuzuki is not spared by this trope. In some Muraki/Hisoka fics, he's portrayed as a weak, whiny and self-loathing [[Wangst]] machine who can't properly take care of Hisoka and thus has the latter running to his {{spoiler|murderer/rapist}}.
** Even Tsuzuki is not spared by this trope. In some Muraki/Hisoka fics, he's portrayed as a weak, whiny and self-loathing [[Wangst]] machine who can't properly take care of Hisoka and thus has the latter running to his {{spoiler|murderer/rapist}}.
** [[Ill Girl|Ukyou Sakuraiji]] gets hate too for being {{spoiler|Muraki's [[Victorious Childhood Friend]]}}.
** [[Ill Girl|Ukyou Sakuraiji]] gets hate too for being {{spoiler|Muraki's [[Victorious Childhood Friend]]}}.
* While Ayaka and Noriko from ''[[Gravitation]]'' have received their share of bashing, despite Ayaka [[I Want My Beloved to Be Happy|willingly conceding Yuki to Shuichi]] and Noriko being [[Happily Married]] to a [[May December Romance|much older man]] in the manga, the majority of fanfics simply don't bring them up at all. The ''guys'' don't get off as easily: either [[Tall Dark and Snarky|Yuki]] is an abusive, heartless bastard who sends [[Keet|Shuichi]] running off into the arms of someone else (usually [[Unlucky Childhood Friend|Hiro]]), or [[White Haired Pretty Boy|Tohma]] is a [[Stalker With a Crush|psycho stalker]] who gets in the way of Shuichi and Yuki's love. Granted, Yuki isn't the nicest person and Tohma ''did'' try to keep Shuichi and Yuki apart at one point, but neither of them is as evil as many fans would like to believe.
* While Ayaka and Noriko from ''[[Gravitation]]'' have received their share of bashing, despite Ayaka [[I Want My Beloved to Be Happy|willingly conceding Yuki to Shuichi]] and Noriko being [[Happily Married]] to a [[May-December Romance|much older man]] in the manga, the majority of fanfics simply don't bring them up at all. The ''guys'' don't get off as easily: either [[Tall, Dark and Snarky|Yuki]] is an abusive, heartless bastard who sends [[Keet|Shuichi]] running off into the arms of someone else (usually [[Unlucky Childhood Friend|Hiro]]), or [[White-Haired Pretty Boy|Tohma]] is a [[Stalker With a Crush|psycho stalker]] who gets in the way of Shuichi and Yuki's love. Granted, Yuki isn't the nicest person and Tohma ''did'' try to keep Shuichi and Yuki apart at one point, but neither of them is as evil as many fans would like to believe.
* Once upon a time, the ''[[Cyborg 009]]'' fandom had a buttload of this. [[Team Mom]] Francoise/003 was not only seen as "weak" [[Real Women Never Wear Dresses|because she didn't always fight]], but if you liked your yaoi (even if it didn't involve her being a "threat") it was a sort-of pre-requisite to hate her. And those who shipped her with Joe/009 fought back... by bashing the most obvious "competition", Princess Ixquic and [[Oedipus Rex|Carl Eckermann]] {{spoiler|alias Sphinx.}}
* Once upon a time, the ''[[Cyborg 009]]'' fandom had a buttload of this. [[Team Mom]] Francoise/003 was not only seen as "weak" [[Real Women Never Wear Dresses|because she didn't always fight]], but if you liked your yaoi (even if it didn't involve her being a "threat") it was a sort-of pre-requisite to hate her. And those who shipped her with Joe/009 fought back... by bashing the most obvious "competition", Princess Ixquic and [[Oedipus Rex|Carl Eckermann]] {{spoiler|alias Sphinx.}}
* While the Ship Wars have calmed down considerably, the ''[[Fullmetal Alchemist]]'' fandom spent some time being a major headache. The loudest were the Roy/Riza fans, who hated Ed, Havoc, Al, or anyone else who had even the remotest potential to break up their OTP, but every one of the Major Pairings had its rage-filled fans. And God forbid you were one of those who shipped multiple pairings that traded off characters, threesomes, or didn't like shipping at all.
* While the Ship Wars have calmed down considerably, the ''[[Fullmetal Alchemist]]'' fandom spent some time being a major headache. The loudest were the Roy/Riza fans, who hated Ed, Havoc, Al, or anyone else who had even the remotest potential to break up their OTP, but every one of the Major Pairings had its rage-filled fans. And God forbid you were one of those who shipped multiple pairings that traded off characters, threesomes, or didn't like shipping at all.
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* This happens quite often to Keiko Yukimura in ''[[Yu Yu Hakusho (Manga)|Yu Yu Hakusho]]'', as fans either love her and think she's a great match with Yusuke or hate her and usually make her out to be a jealous bitch (or kill her) so that they can pair him with Kuwabara, Kurama, Hiei, or an [[Original Character]]. The same thing also happens to {{spoiler|Mukuro}}, Hiei's {{spoiler|boss and potential love interest,}} who is made out to look like a man and be a power-hungry maniac, if she's mentioned at all, in order to facilitate his hooking up with Kurama. Which is a shame, as {{spoiler|the two share [[The Masochism Tango|a sweet, if at the same time somewhat disturbing relationship]], especially in the manga.}}
* This happens quite often to Keiko Yukimura in ''[[Yu Yu Hakusho (Manga)|Yu Yu Hakusho]]'', as fans either love her and think she's a great match with Yusuke or hate her and usually make her out to be a jealous bitch (or kill her) so that they can pair him with Kuwabara, Kurama, Hiei, or an [[Original Character]]. The same thing also happens to {{spoiler|Mukuro}}, Hiei's {{spoiler|boss and potential love interest,}} who is made out to look like a man and be a power-hungry maniac, if she's mentioned at all, in order to facilitate his hooking up with Kurama. Which is a shame, as {{spoiler|the two share [[The Masochism Tango|a sweet, if at the same time somewhat disturbing relationship]], especially in the manga.}}
** We can't forget the hate [[The Lancer|Kuwabara]] gets for not being a bishie and turning into putty when he's next to [[An Ice Person|Yukina]], can we? Yeah, a good part of the hate isn't pairing based, but some Kurama/Yukina fans ''do'' have huge hate-ons for Kuwabara, so...
** We can't forget the hate [[The Lancer|Kuwabara]] gets for not being a bishie and turning into putty when he's next to [[An Ice Person|Yukina]], can we? Yeah, a good part of the hate isn't pairing based, but some Kurama/Yukina fans ''do'' have huge hate-ons for Kuwabara, so...
** Hiei/Kurama fangirls who were more into the manga than the anime also tende to bash [[Ordinary High School Student|Maya Kitajima]] ([[Names the Same|No, not]] [[Glass Mask|that one]]), Kurama's [[Sempai Kohai|underclassman]] with a crush on him who got roped into his adventures once. Nevermind that {{spoiler|he erased her memories of him so she wouldn't be in danger again}}, the fact that Maya got a tiny bit of [[Ship Tease]] with Kurama made her an horrid bitch to Hiei/Kurama rabid fans.
** Hiei/Kurama fangirls who were more into the manga than the anime also tende to bash [[Ordinary High School Student|Maya Kitajima]] ([[Name's the Same|No, not]] [[Glass Mask|that one]]), Kurama's [[Sempai-Kohai|underclassman]] with a crush on him who got roped into his adventures once. Nevermind that {{spoiler|he erased her memories of him so she wouldn't be in danger again}}, the fact that Maya got a tiny bit of [[Ship Tease]] with Kurama made her an horrid bitch to Hiei/Kurama rabid fans.
* This happens to just about every female ''[[Weiss Kreuz]]'' character who's shown some kind of romantic interest in any of the [[Everyone Is Gay|eight main characters]]. [[The Ojou|Ouka Sakaki]] probably comes off worst; despite the fact that she is both {{spoiler|Omi's cousin}} and {{spoiler|dead}}, fanficcers are still capable of transforming her into an arrogant, shallow [[Rich Bitch]] who Omi only dated because he was too polite to tell her where to go. In fact, though none of the four [[Hitman With a Heart]] regulars' love affairs last more than a few episodes and Aya's feelings for Sakura were no more than platonic, their would-be love interests are far too frequently bashed for getting in the way of the [[Ho Yay]] or a [[Mary Sue]], with [[Failure Knight|Youji's]] ex-girlfriend [[The Gwen Stacy|Asuka]], who was dead before the series even ''began'', being about the only exception.
* This happens to just about every female ''[[Weiss Kreuz]]'' character who's shown some kind of romantic interest in any of the [[Everyone Is Gay|eight main characters]]. [[The Ojou|Ouka Sakaki]] probably comes off worst; despite the fact that she is both {{spoiler|Omi's cousin}} and {{spoiler|dead}}, fanficcers are still capable of transforming her into an arrogant, shallow [[Rich Bitch]] who Omi only dated because he was too polite to tell her where to go. In fact, though none of the four [[Hitman With a Heart]] regulars' love affairs last more than a few episodes and Aya's feelings for Sakura were no more than platonic, their would-be love interests are far too frequently bashed for getting in the way of the [[Ho Yay]] or a [[Mary Sue]], with [[Failure Knight|Youji's]] ex-girlfriend [[The Gwen Stacy|Asuka]], who was dead before the series even ''began'', being about the only exception.
** Even in Asuka's case, some shippers (the ones who don't make her into a [[Possession Sue]], that is) have suggested Youji only hung around with her in the first place in an attempt to prove he wasn't gay, or they sub in a [[Mary Sue]] to serve as his childhood sweetheart in her place.
** Even in Asuka's case, some shippers (the ones who don't make her into a [[Possession Sue]], that is) have suggested Youji only hung around with her in the first place in an attempt to prove he wasn't gay, or they sub in a [[Mary Sue]] to serve as his childhood sweetheart in her place.
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** Let's take special note of the enmity growing between the Luffy/Boa and Luffy/Nami fans. Dear shippers: Luffy values people period. He'd probably think you were a loser if you hated on either Boa or Nami. Please reread the damn story to appreciate the fact it's mostly about camaraderie and these things aren't worth dwelling upon seriously. Thank you.
** Let's take special note of the enmity growing between the Luffy/Boa and Luffy/Nami fans. Dear shippers: Luffy values people period. He'd probably think you were a loser if you hated on either Boa or Nami. Please reread the damn story to appreciate the fact it's mostly about camaraderie and these things aren't worth dwelling upon seriously. Thank you.
*** Some [[Boys Love|BL]] fans deride Nami for being an "abusive control freak" (AKA, typical type A [[Tsundere]]) and Luffy/Nami fans sometimes claim Hancock has no right to behave the way she does because ''[[Too Dumb to Live|there's no way a 12 year old slave girl could ever be seriously abused sexually or otherwise''.]]
*** Some [[Boys Love|BL]] fans deride Nami for being an "abusive control freak" (AKA, typical type A [[Tsundere]]) and Luffy/Nami fans sometimes claim Hancock has no right to behave the way she does because ''[[Too Dumb to Live|there's no way a 12 year old slave girl could ever be seriously abused sexually or otherwise''.]]
**** Let's state the bottom line that any example of this trope in OP fandom is uniquely insane for what should be [[No Hugging No Kissing|obvious]] [[Chaste Hero|reasons.]]
**** Let's state the bottom line that any example of this trope in OP fandom is uniquely insane for what should be [[No Hugging, No Kissing|obvious]] [[Chaste Hero|reasons.]]
* ''[[Black Butler (Manga)|Black Butler]]'': Elizabeth. Not only is she a [[Distressed Damsel]] {{spoiler|[[Took a Level In Badass|for a while]] }}, but she's engaged to her [[Kissing Cousins|cousin]] Ciel, which puts her ''directly'' into the way of the [[Ho Yay]] between Ciel and Sebastian. Yep, she never had a chance with the [[Yaoi Fangirl|Yaoi Fangirls]]. {{spoiler|Though now that she has revealed herself as a [[Little Miss Badass]] in the manga, Elizabeth has gained some more fan support.}}
* ''[[Black Butler (Manga)|Black Butler]]'': Elizabeth. Not only is she a [[Distressed Damsel]] {{spoiler|[[Took a Level In Badass|for a while]] }}, but she's engaged to her [[Kissing Cousins|cousin]] Ciel, which puts her ''directly'' into the way of the [[Ho Yay]] between Ciel and Sebastian. Yep, she never had a chance with the [[Yaoi Fangirl|Yaoi Fangirls]]. {{spoiler|Though now that she has revealed herself as a [[Little Miss Badass]] in the manga, Elizabeth has gained some more fan support.}}
** {{spoiler|Matilda Simons}} is hated by [[Yaoi Fangirls]] because she had sex with {{spoiler|Sebastian}} in episode 17. {{spoiler|([[Its Not Rape If You Enjoyed It|Even though it seems that wasn't exactly consensual]])}}
** {{spoiler|Matilda Simons}} is hated by [[Yaoi Fangirls]] because she had sex with {{spoiler|Sebastian}} in episode 17. {{spoiler|([[It's Not Rape If You Enjoyed It|Even though it seems that wasn't exactly consensual]])}}
* ''[[After School Nightmare]]'''s Kureha Fujishiro. Yeah, she's a [[Clingy Jealous Girl]] who finds solace in Mashiro's company because she [[Does Not Like Men]], but still... ''Poor, poor'' {{spoiler|horribly sexually abused}} ''Kureha''. It's only made even worse by the [[Draco in Leather Pants]] status granted to [[Casanova|Sou Mizuhashi]], Mashiro's other love interest, even when he's kind of a [[Bastard Boyfriend]]...
* ''[[After School Nightmare]]'''s Kureha Fujishiro. Yeah, she's a [[Clingy Jealous Girl]] who finds solace in Mashiro's company because she [[Does Not Like Men]], but still... ''Poor, poor'' {{spoiler|horribly sexually abused}} ''Kureha''. It's only made even worse by the [[Draco in Leather Pants]] status granted to [[Casanova|Sou Mizuhashi]], Mashiro's other love interest, even when he's kind of a [[Bastard Boyfriend]]...
* The cast of ''[[Ouran High School Host Club]]'' have all fallen victim to this. Because you can rationalise pretty much any pairing with Haruhi, fanfic writers will portray any characters percieved as being in the way as evil, controlling, abusive, and the like, particularly Hikaru in Kaoru/Haruhi and vice-versa, or Mori in Honi/Haruhi, and often Tamaki in anything. Because [[Ho Yay]] can also be seen in any way you want, there's always at least one victim, usually Haruhi or that character's [[Heterosexual Life Partners|Heterosexual Life Partner]].
* The cast of ''[[Ouran High School Host Club]]'' have all fallen victim to this. Because you can rationalise pretty much any pairing with Haruhi, fanfic writers will portray any characters percieved as being in the way as evil, controlling, abusive, and the like, particularly Hikaru in Kaoru/Haruhi and vice-versa, or Mori in Honi/Haruhi, and often Tamaki in anything. Because [[Ho Yay]] can also be seen in any way you want, there's always at least one victim, usually Haruhi or that character's [[Heterosexual Life Partners|Heterosexual Life Partner]].
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** On the other hand, shippers of all kinds (not only the Hayate x Nagi faction) pretty much started ''screaming'' the moment Athena entered into the picture, greatly increasing the [[Ship to Ship Combat]] since according to them, Athena ''had'' to be a stupid and evil [[Yandere]] who completely ruined Hayate's life. Yep, her [[Hidden Depths]] came ''after'' a while, but sheeesh.
** On the other hand, shippers of all kinds (not only the Hayate x Nagi faction) pretty much started ''screaming'' the moment Athena entered into the picture, greatly increasing the [[Ship to Ship Combat]] since according to them, Athena ''had'' to be a stupid and evil [[Yandere]] who completely ruined Hayate's life. Yep, her [[Hidden Depths]] came ''after'' a while, but sheeesh.
** Now that Nagi and Athena have met, {{spoiler|Athena does throw something of a challenge toward an oblivious Nagi. However, said challenge is mostly of the playful, friendly competition type and displays nowhere near the vitriol (heck, no vitriol at all, for that matter) the more extreme fans of either side purport.}} So, again, the characters of the manga prove to be much more mature about the whole thing than their shippers.
** Now that Nagi and Athena have met, {{spoiler|Athena does throw something of a challenge toward an oblivious Nagi. However, said challenge is mostly of the playful, friendly competition type and displays nowhere near the vitriol (heck, no vitriol at all, for that matter) the more extreme fans of either side purport.}} So, again, the characters of the manga prove to be much more mature about the whole thing than their shippers.
* Starting to show up in ''[[Mahou Sensei Negima]]''. The series is rife with [[Ship Tease]], but when the popular Negi/Asuna ship [[Ship Sinking|hit an]] [[Long Lost Relative|iceberg]], people started coming up with any excuse possible.
* Starting to show up in ''[[Mahou Sensei Negima]]''. The series is rife with [[Ship Tease]], but when the popular Negi/Asuna ship [[Ship Sinking|hit an]] [[Long-Lost Relative|iceberg]], people started coming up with any excuse possible.
** [[Cute Witch|Anna Yurievna "Anya" Cocolova]] was already seen as a bratty and bitchy [[Tsundere]] by Negi/Other Girls fans ''before'' the Negi/Asuna ship was damaged. Yes, she's a [[Bratty Half Pint]], but she's not the Little Bitch From Hell!
** [[Cute Witch|Anna Yurievna "Anya" Cocolova]] was already seen as a bratty and bitchy [[Tsundere]] by Negi/Other Girls fans ''before'' the Negi/Asuna ship was damaged. Yes, she's a [[Bratty Half Pint]], but she's not the Little Bitch From Hell!
** Of course, one probable reason for so little of this is the fact that most shippers' attention is focused on [[Schoolgirl Lesbians|Setsuna/Konoka]], and ''everybody'' hates the [[Stalker With a Crush|major]] [[Psycho Lesbian|person]] trying to get in the way of ''that''.
** Of course, one probable reason for so little of this is the fact that most shippers' attention is focused on [[Schoolgirl Lesbians|Setsuna/Konoka]], and ''everybody'' hates the [[Stalker With a Crush|major]] [[Psycho Lesbian|person]] trying to get in the way of ''that''.
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* Go to the ''[[Konjiki no Gash Bell]]'' fandom and ask whether [[Girl Next Door|Suzume]] or [[Idol Singer|Megumi]] would be better for [[Kid With the Leash|Kiyomaro]]. You'll find yourself trapped between Megumi/Kiyomaro fans who scream that Suzume is [[The Ditz|too brainless]] [[Damsel in Distress|and helpless]] for him and Suzume/Kiyomaro fans who yell back that Megumi is too much of a [[Mary Sue]] to deserve Kiyomaro's love.
* Go to the ''[[Konjiki no Gash Bell]]'' fandom and ask whether [[Girl Next Door|Suzume]] or [[Idol Singer|Megumi]] would be better for [[Kid With the Leash|Kiyomaro]]. You'll find yourself trapped between Megumi/Kiyomaro fans who scream that Suzume is [[The Ditz|too brainless]] [[Damsel in Distress|and helpless]] for him and Suzume/Kiyomaro fans who yell back that Megumi is too much of a [[Mary Sue]] to deserve Kiyomaro's love.
* [[The Messiah|Tohru Honda]]. Not only is she attacked by ''[[Fruits Basket]]'' fans for [[Real Women Never Wear Dresses|being too "weak" and "stupid"]] or "a [[Purity Sue]]", but she also comes under fire for getting in the way of [[Ho Yay|Kyo/Yuki]]. And let's not forget the hate and [[Character Exaggeration]] [[Jerk With a Heart of Gold|Kyo]] gets from rabid [[White Prince|Yuki]]/Tohru fans because {{spoiler|Tohru ended up with him and not Yuki}} even though it's also established that {{spoiler|Yuki's interest in Tohru [[Loving a Shadow|stemmed from him viewing her as a mother figure]]}}.
* [[The Messiah|Tohru Honda]]. Not only is she attacked by ''[[Fruits Basket]]'' fans for [[Real Women Never Wear Dresses|being too "weak" and "stupid"]] or "a [[Purity Sue]]", but she also comes under fire for getting in the way of [[Ho Yay|Kyo/Yuki]]. And let's not forget the hate and [[Character Exaggeration]] [[Jerk With a Heart of Gold|Kyo]] gets from rabid [[White Prince|Yuki]]/Tohru fans because {{spoiler|Tohru ended up with him and not Yuki}} even though it's also established that {{spoiler|Yuki's interest in Tohru [[Loving a Shadow|stemmed from him viewing her as a mother figure]]}}.
** We cannot forget the terrible hate that [[Stoic Woobie|Isuzu "Rin" Sohma]] got for being [[White Haired Pretty Boy|Hatsuharu]]'s [[Broken Bird|harsh yet well-intentioned]] girlfriend, thus meaning she was "cockblocking" Haru and Yuki. Even worse, it was apparently hinted that ''they were sexually active'' too. Fans were so bitchy towards "Rin the slut" that they ''cheered'' when {{spoiler|she was tricked by Ren and then ''horribly'' mauled by Akito}}, since that "meant" she was getting "what she deserved"... {{spoiler|Until Akito turned out to be a girl, too, thus the same fans who bashed Rin [[Rescued From the Scrappy Heap|took pity on her]] - and then started bashing ''Akito'', after [[Draco in Leather Pants|cheerfully praising her terrible actions]] [[Double Standard|when they thought she was a boy]].}}
** We cannot forget the terrible hate that [[Stoic Woobie|Isuzu "Rin" Sohma]] got for being [[White-Haired Pretty Boy|Hatsuharu]]'s [[Broken Bird|harsh yet well-intentioned]] girlfriend, thus meaning she was "cockblocking" Haru and Yuki. Even worse, it was apparently hinted that ''they were sexually active'' too. Fans were so bitchy towards "Rin the slut" that they ''cheered'' when {{spoiler|she was tricked by Ren and then ''horribly'' mauled by Akito}}, since that "meant" she was getting "what she deserved"... {{spoiler|Until Akito turned out to be a girl, too, thus the same fans who bashed Rin [[Rescued From the Scrappy Heap|took pity on her]] - and then started bashing ''Akito'', after [[Draco in Leather Pants|cheerfully praising her terrible actions]] [[Double Standard|when they thought she was a boy]].}}
* ''[[Toward the Terra]]'' is largely [[Cast Full of Pretty Boys|too free of any potentially interfering female characters]] for this trope to prevail. But Artella takes a hit from it for demonstrating clear romantic interest in Tony (and actually being in a relationship with him in the manga) when fans prefer to pair him with [[The Hero|Jomy]].
* ''[[Toward the Terra]]'' is largely [[Cast Full of Pretty Boys|too free of any potentially interfering female characters]] for this trope to prevail. But Artella takes a hit from it for demonstrating clear romantic interest in Tony (and actually being in a relationship with him in the manga) when fans prefer to pair him with [[The Hero|Jomy]].
* [[Ill Girl|Ill Boy]] Takaaki in ''[[Demashita Power Puff Girls Z]]'' took quite the heat from Bubbles/Boomer shippers, not to mention the general Powerpuffs/Rowdyruffs shippers who migrated to the series in hopes that the girls would hook up with their evil counterparts. Any other male that the Powerpuffs showed interest in also got skewered hard, as they weren't as "edgy or interesting" as the Rowdyruff Boys. That is, the same Rowdyruff boys who were barely major villains to begin with and only appeared in two episodes of this adaptation.
* [[Ill Girl|Ill Boy]] Takaaki in ''[[Demashita Power Puff Girls Z]]'' took quite the heat from Bubbles/Boomer shippers, not to mention the general Powerpuffs/Rowdyruffs shippers who migrated to the series in hopes that the girls would hook up with their evil counterparts. Any other male that the Powerpuffs showed interest in also got skewered hard, as they weren't as "edgy or interesting" as the Rowdyruff Boys. That is, the same Rowdyruff boys who were barely major villains to begin with and only appeared in two episodes of this adaptation.
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*** "Bizarrely", eh? Can you say [[Het Is Ew]]?
*** "Bizarrely", eh? Can you say [[Het Is Ew]]?
** [[Yuri Fan|Yuri fans]] aren't much better, since in some circles, [[Cool Big Sis|Mami]] takes lots of heat from [[Dark Magical Girl|Homura]]/[[The Messiah|Madoka]] fans. While this has been around almost from the beginning, it has been specially hard after Episode 10's revelation about {{spoiler|the Mami from the third timeline crossing the [[Despair Event Horizon]] and trying to kill everyone to spare them from becoming witches}}, which apparently means she's a "psychotic" and "weak" bitch and "inferior" to Homura. <br /><br />It's also extremely annoying to see Homura/Madoka fans compare {{spoiler|Sayaka}} unfavorably to Homura and say that because {{spoiler|Sayaka fell into despair for, among other things, a ''male'' like Kamijou}} whereas Homura {{spoiler|became a hardened shell of her old self almost exclusively for a ''female'' like Madoka}}, the first is "shallow", "offensive" and "slutty" while the second is "a beautiful and feminist woman in love". [[Double Standard|What]] [[What Measure Is a Non Badass|the]] [[Insane Troll Logic|HELL]]?!
** [[Yuri Fan|Yuri fans]] aren't much better, since in some circles, [[Cool Big Sis|Mami]] takes lots of heat from [[Dark Magical Girl|Homura]]/[[The Messiah|Madoka]] fans. While this has been around almost from the beginning, it has been specially hard after Episode 10's revelation about {{spoiler|the Mami from the third timeline crossing the [[Despair Event Horizon]] and trying to kill everyone to spare them from becoming witches}}, which apparently means she's a "psychotic" and "weak" bitch and "inferior" to Homura. <br /><br />It's also extremely annoying to see Homura/Madoka fans compare {{spoiler|Sayaka}} unfavorably to Homura and say that because {{spoiler|Sayaka fell into despair for, among other things, a ''male'' like Kamijou}} whereas Homura {{spoiler|became a hardened shell of her old self almost exclusively for a ''female'' like Madoka}}, the first is "shallow", "offensive" and "slutty" while the second is "a beautiful and feminist woman in love". [[Double Standard|What]] [[What Measure Is a Non Badass|the]] [[Insane Troll Logic|HELL]]?!
* Are you a ''[[Kizuna]]'' fan? That's good. Do you ship the [[Official Couple]] of [[Tsundere|Ranmaru]] [[Heir to The Dojo|Samejima]] and [[Heroic Bastard|Kei]] [[Tall Dark and Snarky|Enjouji]]? Great! But please, ''please'' lay off [[Annoying Younger Sibling|Kai]] [[Hot Blooded|Sagano]]. Don't bring up bashing to this kinda peaceful fandom, damn it.
* Are you a ''[[Kizuna]]'' fan? That's good. Do you ship the [[Official Couple]] of [[Tsundere|Ranmaru]] [[Heir to The Dojo|Samejima]] and [[Heroic Bastard|Kei]] [[Tall, Dark and Snarky|Enjouji]]? Great! But please, ''please'' lay off [[Annoying Younger Sibling|Kai]] [[Hot Blooded|Sagano]]. Don't bring up bashing to this kinda peaceful fandom, damn it.
* While the ''[[Soul Eater]]'' fandom isn't as loud with this as most other series, it still has its share. There are few cases that whenever a shipper pairs Maka up with other characters-Kid, Chrona, or even Asura- it seems that they find the need to give Soul hell. Some fans have Soul being an abusive boyfriend, a cheater, or just the [[Jerkass]] that they see him as- even though it is clearer than anything else that Soul is more devoted to Maka than most other characters could ever be and that the last thing he would ever do to her is leave her.
* While the ''[[Soul Eater]]'' fandom isn't as loud with this as most other series, it still has its share. There are few cases that whenever a shipper pairs Maka up with other characters-Kid, Chrona, or even Asura- it seems that they find the need to give Soul hell. Some fans have Soul being an abusive boyfriend, a cheater, or just the [[Jerkass]] that they see him as- even though it is clearer than anything else that Soul is more devoted to Maka than most other characters could ever be and that the last thing he would ever do to her is leave her.
* The ''[[Bubblegum Crisis]] Tokyo 2040'' fandom really likes their [[Office Lady|Linna]] x [[Hot Amazon|Priss]] [[Les Yay]]. It'd be better if they didn't bash the everloving crap of the closest that Priss has to a male love interest, [[Fair Cop|Leon McNichol]]. He's not an idiot, he's not pure [[Dumb Muscle]], and damn it Priss ''does'' develop a soft spot for him and all, so he cannot be as "horrible" and "stupid" as [[Yuri Fan|Yuri Fans]] paint him.
* The ''[[Bubblegum Crisis]] Tokyo 2040'' fandom really likes their [[Office Lady|Linna]] x [[Hot Amazon|Priss]] [[Les Yay]]. It'd be better if they didn't bash the everloving crap of the closest that Priss has to a male love interest, [[Fair Cop|Leon McNichol]]. He's not an idiot, he's not pure [[Dumb Muscle]], and damn it Priss ''does'' develop a soft spot for him and all, so he cannot be as "horrible" and "stupid" as [[Yuri Fan|Yuri Fans]] paint him.
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** Juvia Loxar, while she's a generally popular character and doesn't get as much pairing-related heat as Lisanna, does get some flack for liking/being in love with Gray. Canonically, while she ''is'' a [[Clingy Jealous Girl]] around him and people (read: women and oddly, {{spoiler|Lyon}}) close to him, all in all, she's a sweet and caring person. Also, most, if not all of her antics concerning him, are pure comic relief, and later on in the manga, she ''does'' tone down her obsessive behavior. But that doesn't matter to some non-Gray/Juvia shippers (mostly Gray/Lucy fans) along with the facts Juvia is actually ''friends'' with other women (''including'' the ones she thinks are her "love rivals", such as Lucy) and does care for the guild and all its members. [[Ron the Death Eater|They just zero in on her obsessive part of her personality]], and slam her for being a total creepy bitch who won't ask Gray out like a normal person (completely ignoring how she attempted to hang out him with a couple of times after she joined Fairy Tail and asked him out to lunch) and needs to die. Or get together with {{spoiler|Lyon Bastia since Sherry is (conveniently and blessedly) out of the picture}}.
** Juvia Loxar, while she's a generally popular character and doesn't get as much pairing-related heat as Lisanna, does get some flack for liking/being in love with Gray. Canonically, while she ''is'' a [[Clingy Jealous Girl]] around him and people (read: women and oddly, {{spoiler|Lyon}}) close to him, all in all, she's a sweet and caring person. Also, most, if not all of her antics concerning him, are pure comic relief, and later on in the manga, she ''does'' tone down her obsessive behavior. But that doesn't matter to some non-Gray/Juvia shippers (mostly Gray/Lucy fans) along with the facts Juvia is actually ''friends'' with other women (''including'' the ones she thinks are her "love rivals", such as Lucy) and does care for the guild and all its members. [[Ron the Death Eater|They just zero in on her obsessive part of her personality]], and slam her for being a total creepy bitch who won't ask Gray out like a normal person (completely ignoring how she attempted to hang out him with a couple of times after she joined Fairy Tail and asked him out to lunch) and needs to die. Or get together with {{spoiler|Lyon Bastia since Sherry is (conveniently and blessedly) out of the picture}}.
* Within the ''[[Berserk]]'' fandom, there is a radical minority of fans who never seem to give Casca, the female lead of the story, [[Real Women Never Wear Dresses|a break.]] They either hate her because they claim that she's less of an [[Action Girl]] after becoming Guts' [[Official Couple|official]] [[Love Interest]], or because [[OTP|she's not with Griffith,]] OR because she's getting in the way of [[Ho Yay|Guts being with Griffith.]] Pay close attention to her relationship with Griffith, as some fans are so steadfast at making them the [[OTP]] to ''disturbing'' degrees, the highest degree which would involve {{spoiler|downplaying the fact that Griffith sold out his friends to become a demon lord and as his very FIRST action upon become one, he horrifically rapes her to a very sadistic degree in front of Guts out of spite, which proves to rob her of her personhood, her sanity, nearly three years of her life, and to top it off, her unborn child. It's taken up a notch when some fans argue that she ''enjoyed being raped.''}} Still, some are confident that Casca well regain her senses - meaning that she will realize that she's in love with Griffith, not Guts. And if [[Face Heel Turn|Casca can't be with Griffith]] upon getting cured of her insanity? Well, [[Killed Off for Real|she's of no use then.]]
* Within the ''[[Berserk]]'' fandom, there is a radical minority of fans who never seem to give Casca, the female lead of the story, [[Real Women Never Wear Dresses|a break.]] They either hate her because they claim that she's less of an [[Action Girl]] after becoming Guts' [[Official Couple|official]] [[Love Interest]], or because [[OTP|she's not with Griffith,]] OR because she's getting in the way of [[Ho Yay|Guts being with Griffith.]] Pay close attention to her relationship with Griffith, as some fans are so steadfast at making them the [[OTP]] to ''disturbing'' degrees, the highest degree which would involve {{spoiler|downplaying the fact that Griffith sold out his friends to become a demon lord and as his very FIRST action upon become one, he horrifically rapes her to a very sadistic degree in front of Guts out of spite, which proves to rob her of her personhood, her sanity, nearly three years of her life, and to top it off, her unborn child. It's taken up a notch when some fans argue that she ''enjoyed being raped.''}} Still, some are confident that Casca well regain her senses - meaning that she will realize that she's in love with Griffith, not Guts. And if [[Face Heel Turn|Casca can't be with Griffith]] upon getting cured of her insanity? Well, [[Killed Off for Real|she's of no use then.]]
* Rei Miyamoto from [[Highschool of the Dead]] not only gets slamed for being a borderline [[Faux Action Girl]] ''and'' daring to [[The Mourning After|be troubled over her boyfriend Hisashi's death]], but for being in between [[Anti Hero|Takeshi Komuro]] and [[Lady of War|Saeko Busujima]].
* Rei Miyamoto from [[Highschool of the Dead]] not only gets slamed for being a borderline [[Faux Action Girl]] ''and'' daring to [[The Mourning After|be troubled over her boyfriend Hisashi's death]], but for being in between [[Anti-Hero|Takeshi Komuro]] and [[Lady of War|Saeko Busujima]].
* You know [[CLAMP School Detectives]] fans are way too invested in [[Ho Yay]] shipping (This ''is'' [[CLAMP (Creator)|CLAMP]], after all) when they pour hatred on ''a kindergarten girl'' like Nagisa because Suoh likes her romantically when he could be more invested in Nokoru. Her best friend Utako manages to mostly dodge hate, mostly because she's paired up with Akira and thus she takes him outta the picture.
* You know [[CLAMP School Detectives]] fans are way too invested in [[Ho Yay]] shipping (This ''is'' [[CLAMP (Creator)|CLAMP]], after all) when they pour hatred on ''a kindergarten girl'' like Nagisa because Suoh likes her romantically when he could be more invested in Nokoru. Her best friend Utako manages to mostly dodge hate, mostly because she's paired up with Akira and thus she takes him outta the picture.
* There's far less of it now (thank goodness), but the pairing that got the most flak in ''[[Slayers]]'' was the [[Ship Tease|often teased]] and now more-or-less semi-official (if the light novel artist and writer's acknowledgements are to go by) Zelgadis and Amelia; generally, the mopey, callous, and bull-headed Zelgadis would be glorified whereas the [[The Pollyanna|naive yet kind-hearted]] and just Amelia would be turned into an immature, selfish princess with the intelligence of a fish and no fighting skills ([[Heroic Self Depreciation|she acknowledges her faults in the anime, even!]]). Zelgadis and Amelia would go up against Zelgadis and Lina (who is an [[Official Couple]] with Gourry). Those who do like Gourry/Lina severely tear down Gourry/Sylphiel (the latter having an [[All Love Is Unrequited|unrequited crush]] on the former) and vice versa, citing Lina's [[Comedic Sociopathy|sociopathic behavior]] and extreme selfishness.
* There's far less of it now (thank goodness), but the pairing that got the most flak in ''[[Slayers]]'' was the [[Ship Tease|often teased]] and now more-or-less semi-official (if the light novel artist and writer's acknowledgements are to go by) Zelgadis and Amelia; generally, the mopey, callous, and bull-headed Zelgadis would be glorified whereas the [[The Pollyanna|naive yet kind-hearted]] and just Amelia would be turned into an immature, selfish princess with the intelligence of a fish and no fighting skills ([[Heroic Self Depreciation|she acknowledges her faults in the anime, even!]]). Zelgadis and Amelia would go up against Zelgadis and Lina (who is an [[Official Couple]] with Gourry). Those who do like Gourry/Lina severely tear down Gourry/Sylphiel (the latter having an [[All Love Is Unrequited|unrequited crush]] on the former) and vice versa, citing Lina's [[Comedic Sociopathy|sociopathic behavior]] and extreme selfishness.