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* [[Die for Our Ship/Fire Emblem|Fire Emblem]]

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* As quoted above, Kairi of ''[[Kingdom Hearts]]'' is rabidly hated by many [[Ho Yay|Sora/Riku]] shippers despite being a kind-hearted princess type of [[Two Guys and A Girl|a trio of friends]] without much overt romantic interest. Generally, she's portrayed by the shippers as a selfish homophobic bitch who hates Riku (usually due to one scene in which she expressed distrust toward him, which [[Rival Turned Evil|was eventually justified]]) and wants Sora for herself, and usually ends up dying in some over-the-top fashion.

* As quoted above, Kairi of ''[[Kingdom Hearts]]'' is rabidly hated by many [[Ho Yay|Sora/Riku]] shippers despite being a kind-hearted princess type of [[Two Guys and a Girl|a trio of friends]] without much overt romantic interest. Generally, she's portrayed by the shippers as a selfish homophobic bitch who hates Riku (usually due to one scene in which she expressed distrust toward him, which [[Rival Turned Evil|was eventually justified]]) and wants Sora for herself, and usually ends up dying in some over-the-top fashion.

** There also exists a cult following for Sora/Namine that are positively vicious toward Kairi, making her out to be [[Ron the Death Eater|dumb, selfish, and evil]] while insisting that Namine is [[Purity Sue|perfectly wonderful in every way,]] so she deserves to be with Sora. On the flip side, whenever Sora/Kairi shippers actually turn up, half of them seem to demonize Namine, saying that she messed with Sora's memories and tried to steal him away from Kairi, which she actually did do... under the orders of her [[Abusive Parents|evil, abusive guardians]], and once they were defeated, she set things right with Sora. The big kicker to all of this? Kairi and Namine {{spoiler|are the SAME BEING anyway!}} Honestly, thinking about it too long is enough to give one a brain tumor [[Family Guy|("I'm a tumor, I'm a tumor, I'm a tumor...")]] [[Kindergarten Cop|("It's not a tumor!")]]

*** Heck, Namine even gets hate from rabid Roxas/Xion shippers. Believe me, Roxas/Xion shippers defend their OTP to the grave.

**** Speaking of Xion... just XION. Nearly every Axel/Roxas shipper hated her before the game was even released, and at least 75% of them ''still'' hate her now for getting in the way of their pairing.

** The Sora/Riku shippers are just as bonkers where Xion is concerned. The moment screenshots appeared of Xion and Riku sharing the same breathing space, the shippers went nuts and started vilifying her for getting in the way of the ship. The best part? Xion {{spoiler|is Sora's opposite-sex clone.}}

** The Organization (or, the "ORGY-nization" if you see all the pairings) XIII are all either hated or loved for various reasons in terms of fandom, but Larxene is often depicted as more of an evil, violent and sadistic bitch than necessary or just forgotten altogether in order to advance any of the [[Ho Yay|yaoi pairings]]. Note that half of the Organization hasn't even canonically met (or at least on screen). This only ''encourages'' it by leading to [[Ships That Pass in ~~The~~ Night|shipping at near-random]] and therefore, bashing of [[Ship-to-Ship Combat|rival ships]]. When you have people loathing Zexion for getting in the way of Xigbar/Demyx, who doesn't even appear in the same game as either of them, you know something is seriously wrong...

** The Organization (or, the "ORGY-nization" if you see all the pairings) XIII are all either hated or loved for various reasons in terms of fandom, but Larxene is often depicted as more of an evil, violent and sadistic bitch than necessary or just forgotten altogether in order to advance any of the [[Ho Yay|yaoi pairings]]. Note that half of the Organization hasn't even canonically met (or at least on screen). This only ''encourages'' it by leading to [[Ships That Pass in the Night|shipping at near-random]] and therefore, bashing of [[Ship-to-Ship Combat|rival ships]]. When you have people loathing Zexion for getting in the way of Xigbar/Demyx, who doesn't even appear in the same game as either of them, you know something is seriously wrong...

*** Except for, maybe, Lexeaus to any ship. He might as well not exist as far as shipping is concerned.

* An especially ironic example would be [[The Legend of Zelda|Princess Zelda]], who is frequently [[Fan Dumb|bashed and vilified in]] [[Slash Fic|Slash Fics]] [[Fan Dumb|wherein Link is paired up with]] [[Bifauxnen|her male-looking]] [[You Fail Logic Forever|ninja alter ego]] (who is promptly [[Canon Defilement|retconned to actually *be* male]]), Sheik.

** This tendency toward Zelda-bashing has continued with the release of ''[[Twilight Princess]]'', where the Link/Midna shippers keep creating ways to reopen access to the Twilight Realm, chuck Zelda through it, and bring Midna back (particularly absurd since Midna and Zelda are very close by game's end and that outcome would ''not'' be disirable to Midna at all)--if not outright have the sovereign Princess of Hyrule be the first victim of the next conflict. And let's not talk about Ilia, who gets it ''much'' worse....

** Don't forget ''[[Ocarina of Time]]'', which arguably added multiple love interests, depending on who you ask. Saria, Malon, Zelda, and Ruto all suffer. The older Nabooru, who has the most overt interest in him but also the least dialogue, gets much less negative attention, mostly because fans interpret her as being just a flirt with no romantic interest. Princess Ruto, who finagled a [[Childhood Marriage Promise]], is ''the'' most loathed girl by the shippers. The hatred of Ruto doesn't even make a whole lot of sense, considering that Link clearly isn't interested and the ending makes it impossible for them to be together even if he were.

** ''[[The Legend of Zelda ~~the~~ Wind Waker ~~(Video Game)~~|Wind Waker]]'' had only three significant female characters: One was Princess Zelda, the next (Medli) showed obvious attraction to another boy, and the third was... Link's sister. (There's also this weird fairy queen with the crush on Link, but hardly anyone ever remembers her.) Also, making Tetra an actual girl, instead of a girl pretending to be a boy, was probably a wise choice as well... At least, there are little to no ''Wind Waker'' [[Flame War|Shipping Wars]] out there, but even without them, the number of fanfictions involving Link escaping Tetra's fan-overblown controlling bitch personality and heading off to be with Medli are astronomical. (They, however, almost never kill of Komali, who is hinted to be Medli's love interest. They rather pretend that he [[Fanon Discontinuity|never existed]].) Also, the only ones the Yaoi Fangirls pair Toon Link up with are... [[Screw Yourself|pretty much all of the other Links]].

** ''[[The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker|Wind Waker]]'' had only three significant female characters: One was Princess Zelda, the next (Medli) showed obvious attraction to another boy, and the third was... Link's sister. (There's also this weird fairy queen with the crush on Link, but hardly anyone ever remembers her.) Also, making Tetra an actual girl, instead of a girl pretending to be a boy, was probably a wise choice as well... At least, there are little to no ''Wind Waker'' [[Flame War|Shipping Wars]] out there, but even without them, the number of fanfictions involving Link escaping Tetra's fan-overblown controlling bitch personality and heading off to be with Medli are astronomical. (They, however, almost never kill of Komali, who is hinted to be Medli's love interest. They rather pretend that he [[Fanon Discontinuity|never existed]].) Also, the only ones the Yaoi Fangirls pair Toon Link up with are... [[Screw Yourself|pretty much all of the other Links]].

** Oddly, original [[Fairy Companion]] Navi is mostly left out of shipping wars despite [[Word of God]] stating that she was in love with Link and was jealous of Zelda (though she didn't ''hate'' her by any means), and even despite her [[The Scrappy|scrappy status]]. Might have something to do with her being only three inches tall.

* [[Eldritch Abomination|Arakune]] from ''[[Blaz Blue]]''; it’s not easy to find a [[Rated "M" for Manly|Bang Shishigami]] fan who doesn’t want the critter dead for good. Bang’s [[Misaimed Fandom|fandom]] logic for this is quite simple: the manliest man has to hook up with the woman he has his eyes set on, and it doesn’t matter if she likes him or not at first; for them, Bang’s passion will be corresponded no matter what. Unfortunately, in the sequel, the script writers made [[Beauty and The Beast|Litchi and Arakune’s]] relationship is so tight knit that it borders on [[One True Pairing|“they were made for each other”]]; needless to say, the [[Ship Sinking|Bang x Litchi]] shipping squad [[Ruined FOREVER|is not amused.]]

** There is another huge reason for this which doesn't go into [[Fan Dumb]] or [[Hate Dumb]]. Litchi x Arakune triggered a [[Face Heel Turn]] for Litchi, as the only cure for him that she sought lies within NOL, so she joined a league of [[Complete Monster|Complete Monsters]] (notable members including Hazama and Relius), and smeared a lot of mud into her otherwise perfectly good morality. Most Bang x Litchi shippers believed that if Arakune dies, then Litchi will have no reason to be an antagonist and will [[Heel Face Turn|go back into the straight path of goodness once again]], a view shared by normal Litchi fans. It doesn't help that Arakune ''himself'' has been begging Litchi to kill him already... In other words, it's not just Bang fans that want Arakune dead... even some Litchi fans want him dead so that Litchi will be free and clean again...

** And believe it or not, ''the reverse of this could hold true too''. Bang being some sort of [[Base Breaker]] (either seen as an annoying [[Idiot Hero]] or an [[Ensemble Darkhorse]]) means that some people would have him die so he'd stop pursuing Litchi already and leave her to her quest to save Arakune, because Bang could get annoying in some people's eyes.

** Noel is quite hated, especially amongst [[Ho Yay|Ragna/Jin]] shippers. There are also those who wishes Noel would fulfill her destiny of being killed to save the world, just so she doesn't get in the way of [[Official Couple|Jin/Tsubaki]]. Which is canonically Tsubaki's big problem. Of course, many of the rabid Jin x Tsubaki fans fail to realize that ''Noel herself'' is a [[Shipper On Deck]] in favor of those two, and took her job under Jin to aid her ailing family. If it weren't for that, she'd have held out for Tsubaki to have that role.

** Noel is quite hated, especially amongst [[Ho Yay|Ragna/Jin]] shippers. There are also those who wishes Noel would fulfill her destiny of being killed to save the world, just so she doesn't get in the way of [[Official Couple|Jin/Tsubaki]]. Which is canonically Tsubaki's big problem. Of course, many of the rabid Jin x Tsubaki fans fail to realize that ''Noel herself'' is a [[Shipper on Deck]] in favor of those two, and took her job under Jin to aid her ailing family. If it weren't for that, she'd have held out for Tsubaki to have that role.

* Amy Rose in ''[[Sonic the Hedgehog]]'' (and to a lesser extent, Sally Acorn in the [[Archie Comics|Archie]] ''[[Sonic the Hedgehog (~~Comic Book~~)|Sonic]]'' comics) is forever reviled by Sonic/Shadow slash shippers, a prospect made easier due to her [[Stalker ~~With~~ a Crush]] status. The Sally and Amy fans also hate each other's characters, each blaming the other's chosen character for making the series [[Jump the Shark]] and [[Flanderization]] destroying theirs.

* Amy Rose in ''[[Sonic the Hedgehog]]'' (and to a lesser extent, Sally Acorn in the [[Archie Comics|Archie]] ''[[Sonic the Hedgehog (comics)|Sonic]]'' comics) is forever reviled by Sonic/Shadow slash shippers, a prospect made easier due to her [[Stalker with a Crush]] status. The Sally and Amy fans also hate each other's characters, each blaming the other's chosen character for making the series [[Jump the Shark]] and [[Flanderization]] destroying theirs.

** Don't forget Elise, Sonic's awkward love interest in ''Sonic 06''. She's widely hated by Sonamy fans. But then again, [[The Scrappy|she's pretty much hated by everyone.]]

** [[Your Mileage May Vary|Depending on what is supported]], Shadow, Knuckles, and Rouge are subjected to this treatment, with Rouge being portrayed as an evil seductress trying to lure Knuckles and Shadow away from each other by the Shadow/Knuckles shippers, Shadow being portrayed as a gun-toting manic by the Knuckles/Rouge shippers, and Knuckles being portrayed as abusive and [[Stalker ~~With~~ a Crush|obsessive]] by the Rouge/Shadow shippers. (And for the latter, this is if Knuckles isn't portrayed as wanting Rouge ''dead'' so that she won't be able to try to steal the Master Emerald anymore.)

** [[Your Mileage May Vary|Depending on what is supported]], Shadow, Knuckles, and Rouge are subjected to this treatment, with Rouge being portrayed as an evil seductress trying to lure Knuckles and Shadow away from each other by the Shadow/Knuckles shippers, Shadow being portrayed as a gun-toting manic by the Knuckles/Rouge shippers, and Knuckles being portrayed as abusive and [[Stalker with a Crush|obsessive]] by the Rouge/Shadow shippers. (And for the latter, this is if Knuckles isn't portrayed as wanting Rouge ''dead'' so that she won't be able to try to steal the Master Emerald anymore.)

** This is also the case with the Shadamy shippers, who usually portray Sonic as a [[Jerkass]] who doesn't want Amy until she's off with someone else.

** Many fanfics kill Sonic off in order to pair Amy up with... [[Evil Knockoff|Metal Sonic]].

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** Don't forget how often Amy is written off merely for ''existing''.

** Within the Fleetway fandom there's a joke that Tekno and Amy are more then best friends. Cybernik is already [[The Scrappy]] due to his annoying behavior, but [[Word of God]] saying there's a romantic connection between Tekno and Cybernik just dug his grave even more.

* ''[[Star Fox (~~Video Game~~)|Star Fox]]'', with its predominantly male cast, naturally gets this, especially in the form of [[Ms. Fanservice|Krystal]] the blue vixen, who is both Fox's [[Shallow Love Interest|love interest]] and the [[Base Breaker]] of the series as a whole. A portion of fans shunt her aside in favor of [[Ho Yay|Fox/Falco]] and [[Foe Yay|Fox/Wolf]]; there's also [[Faux Action Girl|Fara Phoenix]] from the 1993 Nintendo Power comics based off of the SNES game as a replacement, even though she and Fox have [[Your Mileage May Vary|little]] chemistry between them. [[Irony|More precisely: As much as Fox and Krystal do.]]

* ''[[Star Fox (series)|Star Fox]]'', with its predominantly male cast, naturally gets this, especially in the form of [[Ms. Fanservice|Krystal]] the blue vixen, who is both Fox's [[Shallow Love Interest|love interest]] and the [[Base Breaker]] of the series as a whole. A portion of fans shunt her aside in favor of [[Ho Yay|Fox/Falco]] and [[Foe Yay|Fox/Wolf]]; there's also [[Faux Action Girl|Fara Phoenix]] from the 1993 Nintendo Power comics based off of the SNES game as a replacement, even though she and Fox have [[Your Mileage May Vary|little]] chemistry between them. [[Irony|More precisely: As much as Fox and Krystal do.]]

** On the flip side, just about no one will even ''dare'' ship [[Latin Lover|Panther]] with Krystal: lo and behold, rabid fans burst like crazy.

*** Not to mention Fara's and Krystal's fans, constantly at each others' throats. [[Continuity Reboot|"Big-eared has-been"]] and [[Canon Immigrant|"boyfriend-stealing skank"]], anyone?

*** And even the [[Ho Yay]] shippers as mentioned can go crazy on one another, especially with [[Anti-Hero|Wolf]], who is often a victim of [[Ship-to-Ship Combat]] with [[Ax Crazy|Leon,]] or even ''[[Hot Dad|James.]]''

* ''[[~~Tales of Symphonia (Video Game)|~~Tales of Symphonia]]'' has this for Colette, the female lead who interferes with alternate pairings (both het and yaoi) for the male lead. She's detested by much of the fandom, mostly for being a [[Distressed Damsel]], a situation that is highly agitated by the fact that, statwise and storywise, she's actually an incredibly capable [[Glass Cannon]]. And she's ''still'' a [[Distressed Damsel]]. This already bad situation is completely destroyed by the presence of Sheena, a female with obvious interest in the male lead who {{spoiler|has a tragic past, giving her aspects of [[The Woobie]], and whose [[Character Development]] is much more interesting than Colette's}}, and to top it off, is portrayed as a fully-capable [[Action Girl]]. And this is despite the fact that, in real life, most people would probably love [[Love Freak|Colette]]. Including, in-universe, almost all of her romantic rivals.

* ''[[Tales of Symphonia]]'' has this for Colette, the female lead who interferes with alternate pairings (both het and yaoi) for the male lead. She's detested by much of the fandom, mostly for being a [[Distressed Damsel]], a situation that is highly agitated by the fact that, statwise and storywise, she's actually an incredibly capable [[Glass Cannon]]. And she's ''still'' a [[Distressed Damsel]]. This already bad situation is completely destroyed by the presence of Sheena, a female with obvious interest in the male lead who {{spoiler|has a tragic past, giving her aspects of [[The Woobie]], and whose [[Character Development]] is much more interesting than Colette's}}, and to top it off, is portrayed as a fully-capable [[Action Girl]]. And this is despite the fact that, in real life, most people would probably love [[Love Freak|Colette]]. Including, in-universe, almost all of her romantic rivals.

** Zelos is loathed by some Lloyd/Sheena fans for his [[Slap Slap Kiss|canonical interest]] in Sheena, who take the worst of his [[Handsome Lech]] persona and turn him into a straight up [[Jerkass]]. While it ''is'' possible to both kill off Zelos ''and'' pair Lloyd up with Sheena in the game, you cannot do both at the same time, and if you ''do'' kill off Zelos, you've not only thrown off the canon altogether, but thoroughly [[Official Couple|set Lloyd up with Colette]].

** At the shipwars' height, to people who shipped Kratos/Anna, Raine was a bitch and a slut stalking Kratos and trying to force him to forget the only true love he could ever have. To Kratos/Raine shippers, Anna was a blank NPC who Kratos didn't really love, but only felt sorry for. This was despite the fact that Kratos and Raine had fairly minimal subtext, that Kratos and Anna canonically had a child together, and that Anna has been dead for so long in the first game that she and Raine would never have needed to be in competition.

*** Anna also gets the same treatment from some [[Ho Yay|Kratos/Yuan]] fans, although they usually leave Raine out of it entirely. In this case, it also seems partly driven by [[Het Is Ew]].

* ''[[~~Tales of Legendia (Video Game)|~~Tales of Legendia]]'' also has this for Shirley, who, like Colette in ''Symphonia'', is the game's female lead. She interferes with alternate pairings for Senel (Senel/Chloe apparently being the [[Fan-Preferred Couple|overwhelming favourite]]), especially since she and Senel apparently become "engaged" at the end of the Main Quest. But even so, it would seem that the vast majority of the ''Legendia'' fandom just generally [[The Scrappy|wish Shirley to burn in the fiery depths of hell]] anyway.

* ''[[Tales of Legendia]]'' also has this for Shirley, who, like Colette in ''Symphonia'', is the game's female lead. She interferes with alternate pairings for Senel (Senel/Chloe apparently being the [[Fan-Preferred Couple|overwhelming favourite]]), especially since she and Senel apparently become "engaged" at the end of the Main Quest. But even so, it would seem that the vast majority of the ''Legendia'' fandom just generally [[The Scrappy|wish Shirley to burn in the fiery depths of hell]] anyway.

** This is made slightly ridiculous by Senel being a [[Chaste Hero]], who shows no interest in anyone bar his dead ex-girlfriend Stella -- who's also Shirley's dead sister. Indeed, the two girls actually bond in one scene over the fact that he doesn't seem to have anything but friendship for either of them! (Despite Shirley being ''engaged'' to him, bizarrely enough.)

*** Even more absurd is that both Senel/Shirley AND Senel/Chloe were already suffering by the point a love triangle emerged. Neither got together with him in the end, but their pining for him prior to that wore thin VERY fast. It makes one consider the possibility that perhaps any pairing with [[Chaste Hero]] Senel isn't a good idea at all...

* Cheria from ''[[~~Tales of Graces (Video Game)|~~Tales of Graces]]'' is strongly disliked by fans of Asbel x Sophie and Asbel x Richard.

* Cheria from ''[[Tales of Graces]]'' is strongly disliked by fans of Asbel x Sophie and Asbel x Richard.

* For the ''[[King of Fighters]]'' fandom, we have Kyo's girlfriend, Yuki. Sweet, outspoken, straight-A student... and absolutely hated by Kyo/Iori slashers, Kyo/Shingo shippers, ''and'' authors who want their [[Author Avatar|Author Avatars]] to hump Kyo instead of this unfortunate [[Naive Everygirl]] who gets caught in the crossfight between Kyo and the Orochi clan {{spoiler|who want to sacrifice her to bring Orochi back into this world, since she's the last descendant of the legendary Kushinada sacrificial maid.}}

** To a lesser extent, this is also true of Athena; Where Kyo is concerned, some fics portray Athena as either a [[Stalker ~~With~~ a Crush]] or a [[All Take and No Give|manipulator]] who selfishly toys with Kyo (and/or Kensou's) feelings.

** To a lesser extent, this is also true of Athena; Where Kyo is concerned, some fics portray Athena as either a [[Stalker with a Crush]] or a [[All Take and No Give|manipulator]] who selfishly toys with Kyo (and/or Kensou's) feelings.

** Let's not forget [[McNinja|Andy Bogard]], in both ''[[King of Fighters]]'' and its sister series ''[[Fatal Fury]]''. Andy took quite a beating from rabid fanboys who preferred [[Ms. Fanservice|Mai]] with their [[Author Avatar|Author Avatars]], other male characters (like Terry, Joe, Eiji Kisaragi, Iori, or even someone from a completely different, unrelated series), and/or other female characters (from Fatal Fury, King of Fighters, and otherwise).

** Not to mention [[Action Girl|Blue Mary]], [[Boisterous Bruiser|Terry Bogard]]'s later love interest. Too many authors resent her for being an obstacle for their [[Author Avatar|Author Avatars]]. Though the fact that many of them have only seen [[The Anime of the Game|the anime adaptations]] thus barely know she exists (also not knowing that the anime is the only place Terry has [[Cartwright Curse|a "dying girlfriend curse"]]) may be a factor there.

* In ''[[Phoenix Wright Ace Attorney]]'', there isn't a lot of bashing, but the majority of what there is is thrown against [[Yamato Nadeshiko|Iris]], for ''daring'' to be {{spoiler|the twin sister of the [[Cute and Psycho]] Dahlia Hawthorne ''and'' Phoenix's ex-girlfriend who actually dated him to save him from her evil sister}}. To some extreme Phoenix/Edgeworth shippers, this means Iris is "an evil, hypocritical, stupid [[Canon Sue]] whore who keeps Phoenix and Miles away from each other". To make things worse, the case that introduced Iris also gave fuel for both Phoenix/Maya and Phoenix/Edgeworth shippers, making her something of a [[Third Option Love Interest]]. Fortunately, the series never resolves potential romances between the main characters, which keeps bashing to a minimum.

* In ''[[Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney]]'', there isn't a lot of bashing, but the majority of what there is is thrown against [[Yamato Nadeshiko|Iris]], for ''daring'' to be {{spoiler|the twin sister of the [[Cute and Psycho]] Dahlia Hawthorne ''and'' Phoenix's ex-girlfriend who actually dated him to save him from her evil sister}}. To some extreme Phoenix/Edgeworth shippers, this means Iris is "an evil, hypocritical, stupid [[Canon Sue]] whore who keeps Phoenix and Miles away from each other". To make things worse, the case that introduced Iris also gave fuel for both Phoenix/Maya and Phoenix/Edgeworth shippers, making her something of a [[Third Option Love Interest]]. Fortunately, the series never resolves potential romances between the main characters, which keeps bashing to a minimum.

** At least Iris didn't actually hook up with Phoenix. Leona Clyde from the Takarazuka musical gets a ''lot'' of hate for taking the place of several canon characters in Phoenix's life and being his love interest to boot. Of course, much of the shipper hate is mitigated by the wonderful [[Ho Yay]] number with Phoenix dancing with/being assaulted by Edgeworth's backup dancer clones.

** In-universe example: Pearl Fey. Having seen many members of her family (including her mother) deal with broken marriages due to the matriarchal nature of Kurain, she's desperate for her beloved cousin "Mystic Maya" to have a happy and secure marriage with Phoenix Wright. This leads to her flipping out and slapping Nick on occasion if he so much as stands next to other women (including Iris, Pearl's own sister), despite the pair's constant recital of [[She Is Not My Girlfriend]].

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*** This encompasses ALL aspects of fic-hood, from Western written ones to Eastern Doujinshi. Why is this? Well, the answer's quite simple: [[Hot Mom|Sophitia]] is widely considered one of the most attractive women in a series full of attractive women, and her husband's some guy you don't see much, and who, therefore, [http://www.cracked.com/article_14990_what-monkeysphere.html according to the worst parts of human nature], is less of a person. [[Show, Don't Tell]] may be in effect.

** You can't forget the [[Aloof Big Brother|Hwang]]/[[Action Girl|Mina]] and [[Canon Foreigner|Link]]/Talim shippers who bash the hell out of [[Hot-Blooded|Hong Yungsung]], either, though part of that is in reaction to the [[The Scrappy|character's many other faults]].

* Even ''[[~~Megaman~~ Battle Network]]'' suffers from this. [[The Chick|Mayl]], in particular, gets all the hatred of the yaoi fans (not to mention a humiliating [[Fan Nickname]]) for daring to stand in the way of Lan/Chaud... never mind that {{spoiler|Lan/Mayl is the [[Official Couple]], as the sixth game shows in the ending}}. And the ever-shrinking Lan/Mayl fandom tends to demean Dex, who has a huge crush on the pink-haired girl... And let's not even speak of the feud between Chaud/Yai and Chaud/Anetta fans!

* Even ''[[Mega Man Battle Network]]'' suffers from this. [[The Chick|Mayl]], in particular, gets all the hatred of the yaoi fans (not to mention a humiliating [[Fan Nickname]]) for daring to stand in the way of Lan/Chaud... never mind that {{spoiler|Lan/Mayl is the [[Official Couple]], as the sixth game shows in the ending}}. And the ever-shrinking Lan/Mayl fandom tends to demean Dex, who has a huge crush on the pink-haired girl... And let's not even speak of the feud between Chaud/Yai and Chaud/Anetta fans!

** On a related note: ''[[Mega Man Star Force]].'' Two het pairings (Geo/Sonia and Geo/Luna) are all but canon and the first game has some heavy [[Ho Yay]] between Geo and Pat. Throw in any other oddball pairings implied from the anime or whatever and you start to see the problem. It's mostly contained to the two big het pairings, though - G/S shippers say Luna's too much of a [[Clingy Jealous Girl]] and G/L shippers say Sonia and Geo are [[Like Brother and Sister]].

* ''[[Drakengard]]'' fandom falls into this habit as well, with both [[Official Couple|Nowe/Manah]] and [[Fan-Preferred Couple|Nowe/Eris]] fans blasting the third side of the [[Love Triangle]] for getting in the way on their OTP. Usually, it is Manah who gets the brunt of the hatred (which probably has something to do with the fact that she was the [[Big Bad]] in the first game), but there are quite a few Eris-haters out there, too.

* Pity Anomen Delryn of ''[[~~Baldurs Gate|~~Baldur's Gate]]'', a noble would-be paladin who is deeply flawed with pride and, to a degree, selfishness, despite his essentially honorable and kind nature. He arguably caused the npc modding community, and tends to suffer badly at the hands of the fanfic community, usually in favor of [[The Woobie|Xan]], [[Smug Snake|Edwin]], or [[Sympathetic Sue|Kelsey]]. On the other side of the gender equation, the naive and idealistic Aerie tends to be revealed to be a [[Clingy Jealous Girl]], secretly evil, or worse.

* Pity Anomen Delryn of ''[[Baldur's Gate]]'', a noble would-be paladin who is deeply flawed with pride and, to a degree, selfishness, despite his essentially honorable and kind nature. He arguably caused the npc modding community, and tends to suffer badly at the hands of the fanfic community, usually in favor of [[The Woobie|Xan]], [[Smug Snake|Edwin]], or [[Sympathetic Sue|Kelsey]]. On the other side of the gender equation, the naive and idealistic Aerie tends to be revealed to be a [[Clingy Jealous Girl]], secretly evil, or worse.

** Aerie as a [[Clingy Jealous Girl]] is pretty much canon. Secretly evil, not so much.

** Anomen's real problem is less [[Die for Our Ship]] than "die for ''any ship at all''". He is the one and only romanceable NPC if you're playing a female PC in an unmodded game, and struck a lot of people as whiny, grating, stupid, or all three. The presence of otherworldly bishounen Haer'Daelis as a ''very'' visible intended [[Love Interest]] (he tries to seduce away ''your'' love interest, if you're a male PC) cut late in development just adds insult to injury for those who disliked Anomen already. Long story short: [[Revenge Fic]] poured in from a wide range of interests, and with a large modding community to support it, got more than a little out of hand...

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** Wait, there's incestuous necrophiliac ''MK'' fanfic out there? Did ''not'' need to know that.

** No, it's usually not with Noob, [[Squick|thank]] [[Brain Bleach|God]]. Sub-Zero usually tends to be paired with [[Foe Yay|Scorpion]], [[Lady of War|Kitana]], and [[Dark Action Girl|Mileena]]. And of course, a het ship involving the [[Mr. Fanservice]] [[Ensemble Darkhorse]] tends to come under ''[[Het Is Ew|heavy]]'' fire from [[Yaoi Fangirl|yaoi fangirls]].

* [[Your Mileage May Vary]], but most [[Disgaea 3]] Mao/Almaz shippers tend to use the Almaz ending for fanfictions, because Almaz's love interest, Sapphire, ends up {{spoiler|''wanting to kill him'', thinking he is going to kidnap her if she doesn't stike back}}, automatically getting her out of the way, and making her a pretty nice target. Nevermind that {{spoiler|''Mao also wants to kill him for his title''}} in this ending.

* [[Your Mileage May Vary]], but most [[Disgaea 3 Absence of Justice]] Mao/Almaz shippers tend to use the Almaz ending for fanfictions, because Almaz's love interest, Sapphire, ends up {{spoiler|''wanting to kill him'', thinking he is going to kidnap her if she doesn't stike back}}, automatically getting her out of the way, and making her a pretty nice target. Nevermind that {{spoiler|''Mao also wants to kill him for his title''}} in this ending.

** Vocal [[Disgaea 4 a Promise Unforgotten ~~(Video Game)~~|Valvatorez/Fenrich]] shippers aren't exactly thrilled with Vulcanus since she possesses some [[Common Mary Sue Traits]] and, initially at least, a rather sharp tongue. On the flip side, some of the people who ship Val/Artina are not exactly fond of Fenrich's [[Jerk Sue]] traits.

** Vocal [[Disgaea 4 a Promise Unforgotten|Valvatorez/Fenrich]] shippers aren't exactly thrilled with Vulcanus since she possesses some [[Common Mary Sue Traits]] and, initially at least, a rather sharp tongue. On the flip side, some of the people who ship Val/Artina are not exactly fond of Fenrich's [[Jerk Sue]] traits.

* Flora gets treated this way by some members of the ''[[Professor Layton]]'' fandom, because she's seen as an obstacle to hooking up Layton with his apprentice Luke. This is a particularly ''odd'' example, because 1) Layton's only known canonical romance was with a woman, 2) Flora is Layton's adopted daughter (though there are Layton/Flora shippers too), and 3) Luke is approximately ''[[Shotacon|thirteen]]'' to Layton's approximate [[Squick|36]].

* ''[[~~Star Ocean the Second Story (Video Game)|~~Star Ocean the Second Story]]'' gets a lot of this between Claude, Rena and Dias; Rena/Dias shippers tend to turn Claude from a good-hearted but very lost teenager into a [[Jerkass|weak, whiny jerk]] whose only purpose is to drive Rena into the arms of Dias, who is suddenly smooth, tender and [[The Pornomancer|incredibly good in bed.]] In canon, Dias is [[Ineffectual Loner|very aloof]] and awkward with emotions, and he and Rena spend most of the game thinking of each other as surrogate big brother/little sister despite not being related. But most of the shippers never acknowledge that and go straight for the romance.

* ''[[Star Ocean the Second Story]]'' gets a lot of this between Claude, Rena and Dias; Rena/Dias shippers tend to turn Claude from a good-hearted but very lost teenager into a [[Jerkass|weak, whiny jerk]] whose only purpose is to drive Rena into the arms of Dias, who is suddenly smooth, tender and [[The Pornomancer|incredibly good in bed.]] In canon, Dias is [[Ineffectual Loner|very aloof]] and awkward with emotions, and he and Rena spend most of the game thinking of each other as surrogate big brother/little sister despite not being related. But most of the shippers never acknowledge that and go straight for the romance.

** Or else they make Rena into the whiny [[Stalker ~~With~~ a Crush|jealous borderline-stalker,]] so that [[Ho Yay|Claude can run off with Dias...]] or Ashton, in some cases, which usually involves bashing Precis the same way.

** Or else they make Rena into the whiny [[Stalker with a Crush|jealous borderline-stalker,]] so that [[Ho Yay|Claude can run off with Dias...]] or Ashton, in some cases, which usually involves bashing Precis the same way.

** The worst part of the ship wars in this fandom? [[Multiple Endings|You can choose who ends up with who in this game!]] There is absolutely no reason for anyone to die for anyone's ship! Just pair them with someone else in the party, or have them end up alone if you prefer, and it's just as canon as everyone else's ship!

* While not ''as'' vicious as other fandoms, ''[[Guilty Gear]]'' has its share of charabashing based on pairings, and ''specially'' after some rounds of [[Ship Sinking]]. The main victim is [[Chef of Iron|Kuradoberi Jam]] (perceived as a shrill bitch who wants to keep Sol and Ky away due to her flirting with Ky in canon). Moreover, a scene in AC+ where she tried to ''poison'' Ky become another reason to increase the hate.

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** Some people don't like that {{spoiler|Tali and Garrus}} can hook up, this is completely ignoring that {{spoiler|it only happens if neither party is romanced or dead}}

* In ''[[Aveyond]]'', the Dameon hate is extremely strong due to fans preferring [[Fan-Preferred Couple|Rhen/Lars]] to [[Official Couple|Rhen/Dameon]].

* The ''[[~~Harvest Moon (Video Game)|~~Harvest Moon]]'' fandom is completely dedicated to shipping; the games are more-or-less [[Dating Sim]]'s with farm elements to most fans. Of course there's going to be shipping wars, usually related to [[The Rival]] of certain characters. IE; in ''More Friends of Mineral Town'' related fanfics related to Claire/Kai, Popuri's already flanderized in [[Harvest Moon 64 ~~(Video Game)~~|canon]] personality gets flanderized into having no redeeming factors and just being a [[Clingy Jealous Girl]] to Kai.

* The ''[[Harvest Moon]]'' fandom is completely dedicated to shipping; the games are more-or-less [[Dating Sim]]'s with farm elements to most fans. Of course there's going to be shipping wars, usually related to [[The Rival]] of certain characters. IE; in ''More Friends of Mineral Town'' related fanfics related to Claire/Kai, Popuri's already flanderized in [[Harvest Moon 64|canon]] personality gets flanderized into having no redeeming factors and just being a [[Clingy Jealous Girl]] to Kai.

** Sabrina seems to get the worst of this from her massive Hatedom, especially when it comes to the Vaughn/Chelsea pairing.

** In Tree of Tranquility/Animal Parade, the three most popular guys to marry are [[Tsundere|Gill]], [[Deadpan Snarker|Chase]] and [[The Fool|Luke]] (and the fourth would be Wizard but he has no love rival). Their love interests [[Token Mini-Moe|Luna]], [[Big Eater|Maya]] and [[Attention Whore|Selena]] ARE NOT liked at all. Special mention to Luna and Selena though as in Animal Parade, if you tell them you like Gill or Luke, their worse personalty comes out and to be fair, Luna and Gill ''aren't really a good match''...and neither is [[Fourth Date Marriage|Luke and Selena.]] At worse, Luna is seen as a stupid brat that doesn't understand Gill's feelings at all even during their rival scenes and Selena is seen as a whore who basically seduced Luke in the first place. Maya gets the least amount of flak out of the three but she's bashed for getting a hot guy like Chase.

** And in ''A Wonderful Life'', hardly anyone likes Muffy. Fanfics that pair up [[Player Character|Jack]] with one of the other bachelorettes (usually [[Yamato Nadeshiko|Celia]]) often derail [[Looking for Love In All ~~The~~ Wrong Places|Muffy]] into being a slut. And then you have people who dismiss Celia as being [[Real Women Never Wear Dresses|"a boring housewife."]]

** And in ''A Wonderful Life'', hardly anyone likes Muffy. Fanfics that pair up [[Player Character|Jack]] with one of the other bachelorettes (usually [[Yamato Nadeshiko|Celia]]) often derail [[Looking for Love In All the Wrong Places|Muffy]] into being a slut. And then you have people who dismiss Celia as being [[Real Women Never Wear Dresses|"a boring housewife."]]

** Another example in the ''Wonderful Life'' fandom is Marlin. In canon, he has a tendency of being a little overprotective of the people he cares about. However, in just about every Jack/Celia fic, Marlin's protectiveness gets Flanderized to [[Stalker ~~With~~ a Crush]] levels.

** Another example in the ''Wonderful Life'' fandom is Marlin. In canon, he has a tendency of being a little overprotective of the people he cares about. However, in just about every Jack/Celia fic, Marlin's protectiveness gets Flanderized to [[Stalker with a Crush]] levels.

* In [[~~Team Fortress 2 (Video Game)|~~Team Fortress 2]], the Medic's wife gets this from slash ficcers, despite the fact ''she's only mentioned in one line'' (where an enemy Demoman claims [[I Banged Your Mom|he is sleeping with her]]).

* In [[Team Fortress 2]], the Medic's wife gets this from slash ficcers, despite the fact ''she's only mentioned in one line'' (where an enemy Demoman claims [[I Banged Your Mom|he is sleeping with her]]).

* Shizune Hakamichi from the [[Visual Novel]] ''[[Katawa Shoujo]]'' seems to have suffered the misfourtune of being pratically set up of this. First, her route is very much an aquired taste, relying more on intellectual nuance, [[Foreshadowing]] and subtext than the "[[Catharsis|feels]]" that are common in other routes. Meaning that [[Rewatch Bonus|you need to play it a few times in order to truly get it]]. (The fact that it is the most linear route, {{spoiler|with only one choice}}, as well as a [[Slice of Life]] narrative structure that not everyone appreciates, doesn't help matters.) Second, she is a [[Spirited Competitor]] to a degree that [[Base Breaker|one either finds charming and endearing or obnoxious and annoying]]; she can also can be rather blunt (justified in part because she is deaf-mute). Thirdly she is [[The Rival]] to [[Yamato Nadeshiko|Lilly]] who is by far one of the most adored characters in the game and whose route is seen as much smoother and sweeter {{spoiler|except for the end, but that one also ends up well}}. Lastly, her best friend Misha is an [[Ensemble Darkhorse]] who doesn't have a route of her own {{spoiler|and is, in fact, in unrequited love with Shizune herself - which is what triggers THE single choice in the Shizune route}}. [[Hate Dumb|You'd think people would not be able to pour so much hate at an eighteen year old deaf girl.]]

** Interestingly enough, in Lilly's route, Shizune {{spoiler|reconciles with Lilly, and initiates the process}}. And instead of competing with the other girls over Hisao, Shizune, along with Misha, is a [[Shipper On Deck]].

** Interestingly enough, in Lilly's route, Shizune {{spoiler|reconciles with Lilly, and initiates the process}}. And instead of competing with the other girls over Hisao, Shizune, along with Misha, is a [[Shipper on Deck]].

** Lilly herself gets some of this trope from fans of the other route, who resent her for being the most popular girl. She is also sometimes accused of being a [[Mary Sue]], {{spoiler|although this, like other tropes, is [[Deconstructed Trope|deconstructed]], when Hisao finds himself relying on her too much, doesn't challenge her decision to go to Scotland until almost literally the last second, and realizes that she has flaws of her own, such as hiding her emotions}}.

* [[Golden Sun]] has had a very strong shipping base since the first game, but it was the third game when people really got violent about it. When it was made cannon that Isaac and Jenna got married, and were the main protagonists parents, the hate fics began to flow like water. Many fans had been a fan of shipping Isaac and Mia, as well as Garet and Jenna. The takes of these fics have been from Isaac being detached and a jerk, Jenna cheating on him with someone else (freeing him up) or simply stating that one half of the couple is dead already.