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Line 7: ** Can't forget Misa's [[Yandere\|"If I see you with another girl, I'll kill them!"]] * Dr. Hell from ''[[Mazinger Z]]'' killed a dog when he was a little child because he thought the mutt was glaring at him. You could tell his sanity was already very strained back then. Also, he was abused by everybody when he was young, and he thinks to [[Take Over the World]] and enslave the humanity is a proper punishment for wrongs were made several decades ago. * Lina Inverse, main character of ''[[Slayers]]'', does this a ~~lot -- sometimes~~lot—sometimes she seems to have only two levels of punishment: shouting, and blowing things up. It's primarily this willingness to fly off her head over little things and react by throwing around [[Sphere of Destruction]] type spells that gives her such a bad reputation. * ''[[Yu-Gi-Oh (anime)\|Yu-Gi-Oh]]'' is notorious for this. Yugi was the target of several ill-conceived vengeance plots throughout the various seasons. One particular example ~~had~~was Rebecca, the daughter of one of Yugi's grandfather's friends, ~~challenge~~who challenged him because his grandpa "stole" her grandpa's rare card. Of course, two seasons later she showed up ''with a crush on him.'' [[Jerkass\|Jerkass Seto Kaiba]] does this to an extreme in the manga version, where he traps Yugi and his friends (and a toddler one of them happens to be babysitting) in "Death-T", a gauntlet of murderous trials and challenges where failing could lead to death. Seriously, hiring professional assassins for a REAL laser tag, electric chairs powered by screams, hiring a SERIAL SLASHER... and the reason for all this? Because Yugi beat him in a card game (which Kaiba himself tried to cheat in.) The fact that he is [[Easily Forgiven]] is just insulting to the readers' intelligence. * Kaiba's revenge wasn't ''just'' for his defeat, it was because of the Penalty Game that the Pharaoh put him through after he lost. For the crime of stealing his card and threatening him for it, the Pharaoh trapped Seto in an illusion where he experienced his own death. This was actually perhaps the most ''merciful'' that the Pharaoh's Penalty Games have been. In this case, he ''meant'' for the experience to help change Kaiba's ways. What actually happened is that Kaiba was traumatized enough to have recurring nightmares about the experience. In fact, in order to make his revenge more complete, he built a technological version of the penalty game, using holograms, to subject Yugi to. Eventually, the Pharaoh got sick of all the revenge schemes, and just blew up the evil part of Seto's mind. He came out of it a sort of changed man. Granted, it put him into a ''coma'' for nearly a year, but still. Another had [[Mr. Fanservice\|Duke Devlin]], a would-be game developer, challenge Yugi to a duel because he thought Yugi cheated to beat Pegasus (which is ~~debatable--Pegasus~~debatable—Pegasus was already using his Millennium Eye to cheat, first with the Mind Scan, then with a Shadow Game that injured Yugi, so whether or not Yugi and Yami's Mind Shuffle counts as cheating is pretty YMMV) and killed him (which he didn't), thus ruining his chance at getting his designer game produced (the fax green-lighting it came in less than an hour after the duel), with the stakes being his friend's freedom, his champion title, and his right to play the show's [[Serious Business]] card game forever. To Duke's credit, he does get the hint and eventually forms part of the show's extended cast, helping out at times. * Duke's reasons in the manga were a bit more justifiable, since he had to do it for his [[Monster Clown]] of a father in an act of vengeance for whatever Yugi's grandpa did to his face. * Duke's father is a much stronger example of this. He and Solomon Moto played the Devil's Board Game, whose cursed power aged him immensely when he lost. Thing is, they both agreed to play the game (for whatever insane reason), and the rules of the game<ref>take turns rolling a die moving a game piece that number of spaces towards the center of the board.</ref> are such that one's opponent has no bearing on who wins the game. Of course, one can't take revenge on the [[Random Number God]], so imprisoning, discrediting, and murdering Solomon's grandson, after forcing him to play the Devil's Board Game, was apparently the next best thing. Line 29: The case: Ranma, in female form, has been kissed by [[Handsome Lech\|Mikado Sanzenine]]. The crime: Ranma is actually a straight boy, with Mikado not knowing either that it was Ranma's first kiss or Ranma's true identity. The response: Ranma (who, keep in mind, has enough [[Super Strength]] that he can split boulders without trying too hard) turns into a male and hits Mikado over ''500'' times leaving Mikado unconscious on his feet. * To be fair, it's not as if Mikado can't defend himself and wasn't actively fighting back. Also, grabbing an uncooperative ~~women by surprise~~woman and then ~~initiating~~forcing intimate contact with her against her ~~will -- which~~will—which is exactly what Mikado ~~did -- is~~did—is called "sexual assault", and when someone tries that and their intended victim ends up beating the shit out of them most people will agree that they had it coming. The case: any outsider woman has defeated a female member of the Joketsuzoku. The crime: defeating the female equivalent of one of the closest things ''Ranma 1/2'' has to a [[Proud Warrior Race Guy]]. The response: a symbolic [[Kiss of Death]], followed by the defeated Joketsuzoku pursuing the outsider all over the world until one or the other of them is dead. ** The case: Ranma has distracted Happosai, causing him to get hurt. The crime: Ranma's interference in one of Happosai's pantyraids allowed the angry women to catch and beat up the [[Dirty Old Man]]. The response: Happosai burns a moxibustion on Ranma's back that leaves him weak as a baby, then distributes fliers about how Ranma is weak all over town, gloating to Ranma that this means his various enemies will seriously hurt and perhaps even kill him, without Happosai needing to lift a finger. Line 38: * In ''[[Fist of the North Star]]'', the villain [[Ax Crazy\|Amiba]] decides to imprison Toki, get plastic surgery to look just like him, impersonate him, and perform horrible experiments to ruin his good name... because Toki slapped him in the face once. ** Hokuto Shinken, due to its horrific effects when it is used to kill, can often be seen as disproportionate for many of the bad guys that Kenshiro uses it on. Though to be fair, quite a few of these bad guys are not above doing horrible things to innocent people, which is Kenshiro's general [[Berserk Button]]. * A flashback in ''[[Elfen Lied]]'' reveals that Lucy {{spoiler\|killed Kouta's sister and father}} just because Kouta {{spoiler\|lied about his cousin's gender}}. To be fair, Lucy is rather screwed up in the head due to just about everyone she's dealt with, from [[Kids Are Cruel\|the kids at her orphanage]] to [[Playing with Syringes\|the researchers at that lab]], being [[Humans Are ~~Bastards~~the Real Monsters\|worse than bastards to her]]. ** {{spoiler\|Actually, it was less the lie than the thought of Kouta expressing romantic feelings towards someone else. After hearing Kouta say the cousin he was going with was a boy, Lucy thinks to herself that she would have killed Yuka in a fit of jealously if she'd known she was a girl. So regardless if whether Kouta had spoken the truth or not, someone was still bound to get killed.}} * In ''[[Bleach]]'', {{spoiler\|Aizen}} pays more attention to his captive Orihime than to his biggest fangirls, Arrancar twins Lolly and Menoly. Their response? To get Orihime alone, and beat the shit out of her. When that fails (only on the fortunate timing of Grimmjow), their plan is to kill her while Ichigo is fighting Ulquiorra. Line 46: * Many [[Shoujo]] manga have this, where the protagonist attracts the attention of the [[Bishonen\|"School Prince"]], causing all of the female students in the school to [[Yoko Oh No\|kidnap her and attempt to beat and cut her up]]. * More of a villainous example, but in ''[[Deadman Wonderland]]'', after Shiro breaks Genkaku's beloved electric guitar, the next time he meets her, he captures her and orders his men to cut her up and rape her. (Part of it was also because he seemed [[Stalker with a Crush\|angry and jealous that she was Nagi's friend]], but mostly because of his guitar.) * ''[[One Piece]]'': ~~In ''[[One Piece]]'', the~~The island of Ohara was subjected to the Buster Call, which is basically an assload of warships pelting the place with giant cannons until there's nothing left. Their crime? Researching the history of the world. It is disproportionate in that everybody but {{spoiler\|Robin}} was blown to smithereens, including non-researchers, but the subject matter did contain some information which the World Government didn't want out. It's implied that the government didn't put much effort into hiding their displeasure of Ohara's research. Near the beginning of the series, Morgan decreed that anyone who tried to feed a prisoner tied to the cross in the courtyard would be punished for the prisoner's crime. A little girl, not eight years old, would have been executed for trying to feed Zoro if Luffy hadn't defeated Morgan. {{spoiler\|In the flashback to Luffy's childhood, Saint Jalmack sinks Sabo's boat and possibly kills him for cutting in front of the ship the World Noble was on. He could have justified it with Sabo's pirate flag, but he gave the crossing paths excuse higher priority. Hence this trope.}} When Luffy punches a World Noble named Charlos for shooting Hachi, Charlos's father calls in the Marines, including Admiral Kizaru, to the island, and then declares his intention to starve the men of the crew to death while working them as slaves and have the women stuffed, overlapping this with [[Knight Templar Parent]] and [[Moral Myopia]]. Katakuri, [[The Dragon]] to Big Mom during the Whole Cake Island arc, is very sensitive about his mouth, which is overly large and full of sharp teeth. He always covers it with a scarf except when he eats, and he does ''that'' in private. When Luffy witnessed him eating, Katakuri flew into such a rage that, in addition to attacking Luffy, he murdered his own chefs for no reason at all. * In ''[[Naruto]]'', {{spoiler\|[[Big Bad\|Madara Uchiha]] wanted to continue the war with the Senju when the two clans had gotten tired of fighting and banded together to create Konoha. The Uchiha family rejected him as a warmonger, and Madara elects to get even with this "betrayal" by assisting Itachi in killing the entire clan.}} And it seems that {{spoiler\|Uchiha Sasuke}} is following after his ancestor in the 'disproportionate retribution' department. How? Well, after {{spoiler\|Finding out that Itachi was under orders by Danzou, Sarutobi, Koharu, and Homura to execute the Uchiha clan for treason and an attempted coup that would result in a costly civil war}}, he apparently decides to {{spoiler\|'''MURDER EVERYONE!''' Danzou, Homura, Koharu, the villagers of Konoha (who had no idea about the attempted coup, much less that Itachi's genocidal actions were sanctioned), innocent samurai who are only doing their job, etc.}} Apparently the only way to make everything better is to go on a {{spoiler\|genocidal rampage that would make Pain green with envy.}} Line 59 ⟶ 61: A few episodes of Jigoku Shoujo Futakomori (Hell Girl 2nd season) portray this trope. Also happened in an episode of Jigoku Shoujo Mitsuganae (Hell Girl 3rd season). ** One target in the third season literally gets sent to hell so the client can avoid potential minor embarrassment. * ''[[Mahou Sensei Negima]]'' has a number of things like this, but the most ridiculous is probably the time that Asuna managed to nick Evangeline's cheek. Eva's response? [https://web.archive.org/web/20090131072823/http://www.onemanga.com/Mahou_Sensei_Negima!/182/12/ Lick the blood off and encase Asuna in a block of ice.] [[Fridge Horror]] sets in when you realize that Eva is a vampire who can regenerate any damage anyway, that this took place during a ''[[Training ~~From~~from Hell\|training exercise]]'', and that if it weren't for Asuna's [[Anti-Magic]], she would have been ''encased in ice '''[https://web.archive.org/web/20100730071301/http://www.onemanga.com/Mahou_Sensei_Negima!/182/15/ for ten years]'''.'' * ''[[Excel Saga (anime)\|Excel Saga]]'' played this for laughs when Department of City Security head Dr. Kabapu forced his team to patrol the city in [[Sentai]] suits. Cue [[Stuff Blowing Up]] for minor offenses, like littering and flirting. * An older boy in ''[[Yu-Gi-Oh! GX (anime)\|Yu-Gi-Oh GX]]'' that Judai looked up to used a trap card to stop him from summoning Yubel in a duel when he was a kid. He was fairly upset... so Yubel put him in the hospital. When Judai visited the boy later, Yubel did ''something'' that made him scream. Small wonder nobody wanted to play with him, because she ''kept'' doing these kinds of things. Line 67 ⟶ 69: ** The part where {{spoiler\|Charles basically kills his brother V.V. for lying to him for the second time}} seems like disproportionate retribution, even considering the pact they had, but doesn't seem so disproportionate once you find out {{spoiler\|what V.V. lied about the first time.}} * ''[[Kenichi: The Mightiest Disciple\|Kenichi the Mightiest Disciple]]'' has Odin, the leader of Ragnarok, who got started on the path of evil as a child when {{spoiler\|he didn't get the pin he wanted out of a vending machine, but Kenichi did. He fought Kenichi over it, lost, and has been bitter about it ever since in part because Kenichi wanted him to have the pin anyway.}} * [[Monster (manga)\|Johan]] much? If you've seen him, you die. If you've associated with him, you die. If he [[For the Evulz\|thinks it would be funny]], you die. If you ''sheltered him and his sister'', [[Self-Made Orphan\|you die]]. Though if you're [[The Messiah\|Dr. Tenma]] and made the mistake of [[No Good Deed Goes Unpunished\|saving a little kid with a potentially fatal bullet wound]], he [[Mind Rape~~\|Mind Rapes~~]]s you and dedicates himself to [[Break the Cutie\|trying to break your faith in humanity]] instead. Just go take a look at his picture over on the [[Complete Monster]] page. * In ''[[~~Twentieth~~20th Century Boys]]'' by the same author, {{spoiler\|second}} Friend is ready to annihilate mankind as "unworthy to live" because {{spoiler\|one of his childhood friend once committed a petty theft and let him take the blame}}. Keep in mind they were about nine years old at the time. ** It should be noted that the consequences of the above were that {{spoiler\|Friend was symbolically executed and everyone pretended he was dead. This was done so thoroughly that, as adults, everyone from that clique thought he was really dead.}} Which should be considered [[Disproportionate Retribution]] as well. * Both the grievance and the response are delivered accidentally in ''[[Kyou no Go no Ni]]'''s first episode. When Yuki and Megumi get hit on the head (accidentally) by two high-bouncing "Superballs", and then hit again on the upbounce of another round, cue an argument ending with Yuki accidentally slipping on said superballs in such a way as to deliver a perfect [[Groin Attack]] to Ryouta. Needless to say the matter is considered settled after that. * ''[[Change 123]]'' has ~~Sora -- who~~Sora—who is using Kosukegawa to get Motoko mad so she can see her most powerful personality, ~~Zero -- chuck~~Zero—chuck into a dumpster some Kamen Raider tapes that Kosukegawa gives her, tapes that are very important to him. Hibiki (the most abrasive of Motoko's normal personalities, all of who like Kosukegawa) sees this happen. Her response? Throwing a punch that makes Sora's bone stab out of her wrist. Ouch. * In the ''[[Touhou Musou Kakyou]]'' [[Fanime]], Patchouli Knowledge, already rather stressed out due to Reimu Hakurei, the protagonist and resident [[Miko]], interrogating her about her donation box which was stolen from her shrine, gets hit in the face with one of her own books, thrown by Aya during a heated argument with Marisa. Patchy gets ''very'' pissed at this and decides to take it out on Reimu. After a short scene with Sakuya and Remilia, we cut back to the library and Patchy is busting out "Sun Sign: Royal Flare," one of her more powerful spellcard attacks. Reimu herself doesn't exactly hold back in her retaliation either. * In ''[[Eyeshield 21]]'', this is Hiruma's entire stance. To quote: "Attack attack and attack! Two eyes for an eye, two teeth for a tooth!" One wonders what sort of karmic retribution he's expecting for all the [[Crosses the Line Twice\|stuff that he does]]. Line 80 ⟶ 82: No mention of Paul, who feels the best way to prove himself a better trainer than his brother (who lost to Pyramid King Brandon in a [[Curb Stomp Battle]]) is to crush the morale of everything he can possibly reach? James has shades of this. He ''really'' likes his bottle cap collection. When it had been (accidentally) stolen by a trash-collecting robot, he tried to ''steal the Sunnyshore Tower''. In other words, he tried to '''steal a bloody skyscraper'''. What truly seals the craziness is that that ''was'' Team Rocket's evil-plan-of-the-week...and Jessie and Meowth were ''still'' freaked out at James' sudden gung-ho attitude! *** One that doubles as [[Beware the Nice Ones]]: One episode saw a pack of baby Pokemon (including James' own Mime Jr.) in danger. James [[Pet the Dog\|agreed to help out almost immediately]]~~--and~~—and he reacted...violently when Jessie and Meowth refused to help. Both of the above instances happened ''before'' Team Rocket [[Took a Level Inin Badass]]. * In ''[[Pokémon Special]]'', the Sinnoh Trio make a lot of noise in Mt. Coronet's caves. Cyrus feels that burying the three twelve-year old children in a rock slide is the appropriate response. * Lucia of ''[[Rave Master]]'' succeeds at exacting this. While what happened to him really sucked, I mean ''really'' sucked, [[Woobie, Destroyer of Worlds\|his reaction was a bit extreme]]. Line 90 ⟶ 92: ** And ''then'', after Guts returns and the Hawks regroup and rescue their former leader, the King decides to send in the Black Dog Knights, the worst rapists, murderers, and all-around scum Midland has to offer, led by a truly nasty piece of work of an Apostle, in order to kill them all. * Natsumi of ''[[Keroro Gunsou]]'' is this trope and then some. Yes, she is sharing her house with [[It Makes Sense in Context\|an alien frog bent on world domination]] but she loves beating him for anything that slightly annoys her. Forget to wash the dishes? Beating. Say something insulting about her, even though she always calls him a stupid frog? Beating. Look at her funny? [[Rule of Three\|Beating]]. ** In response, Keroro himself sometimes goes into this when he plans revenge against Natsumi. One episode has her throw soybeans at him and call him an oni, which is admittedly ~~nasty--but~~nasty—but not nasty enough to turn her into an oni and relentlessly bombard her with soybeans until she surrenders the household. * In one of the most disgusting examples of this trope, an abusive man in ''[[Gantz]]'' beats his girlfriend's two year old son [[Harmful to Minors\|to death]] ''for eating the last pudding cup.'' * ''[[Love Hina]]'' is full of this trope. So Keitaro ends up walking in at a time that he shouldn't, so he gets beaten up and humiliated by the residents (all female) at the Hinata inn (as well as at least one Death Threat). Said incidents include when they are changing or at a bath. Heck, even when it is actually one of the girls who walks in on Keitaro when he's changing, he gets beaten up anyways. Line 102 ⟶ 104: * ''[[Sailor Moon]] S'': Mimet stole Telulu's job from her. Telulu's response? To send Mimet [[And I Must Scream\|falling into a void of nothingness]]. Which either kills her or ''traps her in darkness for all eternity''. ** Consider this: Sailor Moon looked ''utterly horrified'' at Mimet's fate, and it's implied Mimet could have easily killed all the heores in one shot. * In ''[[~~xxxHolic~~×××HOLiC]]'' Watanuki and Doumeki accidentally broke a spider web while doing some garden cleaning. The spider took her revenge by [[Eye Scream\|stealing Doumeki's eye]]. Considering that it takes about one hour for a spider to construct a web we could say that [[Minor Injury Overreaction\|she overreacted]] a bit. * {{spoiler\|Nakago}} from ''[[Fushigi Yuugi]]''. The reason behind almost everything he does is because of this. {{spoiler\|He blames Kutoh for the death of his mother, only friend Tarlia (Seiran Den) and the sexual abuse he suffered as a child}}. He claims he 'wanted revenge on the Heavens that had given [him] hell.' ** Also Suboshi. After {{spoiler\|Amiboshi}} dies, he blames the Suzaku warriors and to 'get his revenge' he {{spoiler\|kills Tamahome's family}}. * ''[[Ro-Kyu-Bu!\|Ro Kyu Bu]]'' shows just how far a school's administration is willing to go to quash suspected pedophilia amongst its students. If even one member of any club so much as makes out with a girl that's so much as three years younger than he, you can say goodbye to the entire club for the next year, and the offending party is [[Never Live It Down\|forever branded a traitor to his club]]. This happens at the very start of the series, where Subaru's plans to play high school basketball are derailed by the team captain's alleged actions. * The fate of several girls in ''[[Master of Martial Hearts]]'': if the sheer fact that every fight in the ''Platonic Heart'' tends to turn into a death match, it gets worse {{spoiler\|when you're made aware that actually the losing [[Action Girl~~\|Action Girls~~]]s suffer [[A Fate Worse Than Death]] itself. They're actually saved, nursed to health and then mindraped to the breaking point and sold into sexual slavery. Just to get sure, many of them get their voice box removed, thus explaining how one of the previous generations loser, after escaping her destiny, became little more than the resident [[Cute Mute]] and harmless [[Hot Mom]]. Tinged with [[Misplaced Retribution]], since Natsume, the daughter of the aforementioned [[Cute Mute]], organized a second edition of the ''Platonic Heart'', thus reaping a whole bunch of completely random strangers, just to lure out the daughter of the organizer of the tournament costing her mom her voice and freedom.}} ** {{spoiler\|Natsume and Miko's grandfathers killed the families of Aya's parents, so they started the Martial Hearts tournament specifically to target their children. One generation later, Natsume and Miko themselves, upon learning what the fuck had gone down, orchestrate the aforementioned copycat crime ring just to get back at Aya for what had happened to ''their'' mothers. This fucks up her brain ''so badly'', the series ends with her trying to put an end to the [[Cycle of Revenge]] once and for all before it gets any worse than ''just'' "an eye for an eye [leaving] everybody blind".}} * ''[[Wolf Guy Wolfen Crest]]'': Haguro beat his [[Noble Demon]] subordinate Chiba within an inch of his life, biting off his tongue, and then raping him for good measure to the point that Chiba ends up dying from a combination of ruptured organs, blood loss, and broken ribs. Thankfully, Inguami gave Chiba some of his blood which ended up bringing Chiba back to life. Why did Haguro do such a thing? Because Chiba ended up encountering Inugami out on the streets and talked to him for maybe 15 minutes when Haguro wasn't around. Line 112 ⟶ 114: * ''[[Captive Hearts]]'': Because a thief tried to rob the Kougamis centuries ago, his descendants were forced to serve the Kougamis for the next hundred generations. * In ''[[Higanbana no Saku Yoru ni]],'' when {{spoiler\|Nonomiya}} is blamed for breaking school equipment, he retaliates by taking pictures of {{spoiler\|Yoko}} which ultimately turns the school against her and they make her into their plaything. She {{spoiler\|[[Driven to Suicide\|kills herself]] and her soul is then eaten by The Principal}}. *In ''[[The Garden of Words]]'', Aizawa ruins {{spoiler\| Yukari's}} reputation with vicious rumours just because of speaking to her boyfriend. {{reflist}} [[Category:~~Disproportionate Retribution~~{{SUBPAGENAME}}]] [[Category:~~Anime And Manga~~{{TOPLEVELPAGE}}]]